NFL Insider Ian Rapoport: Why Falcons Drafting Penix Actually Makes Sense | The Rich Eisen Show
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12 днів томуNFL Insider Ian Rapoport tells Rich Eisen why the Atlanta Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr actually makes sense.
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@djc9727 10 днів тому
For the last couple of months we had to listen to you Rich and guests talk about how the NFL teams not developing quarterbacks. Well they are developing a quarterback in Atlanta.
@bubsmeister 10 днів тому
You just invested $100 mill...gonna tell Penix he'll play at 28 yrs old?.... Guess the D is top 5
@michaeliceman5512 10 днів тому
The whole point of signing Cousins was to not have to do that. Nothing against Penix, he's a good prospect, but this was another luxury pick for a garbage team that can't afford to make luxury picks year after year...
@ttttggggg636 10 днів тому
REALLY?
@corvus2512 10 днів тому
@@bubsmeister this is such a insincere argument… 28? You know, as you typed that in, that isn’t true at all. Cousins will be the starting QB in Atlanta for 1-2 years depending on how it goes. 2 years from today Penix will be 25 and will turn 26 before the season starts and that is the longest he will have to wait. Love is 25 and started for the first time, it’s the same thing. At 26 with 2 years of learning under his belt he can be the guy in Atlanta for a decade at that point. There is also every chance tha Cousins has a mediocre first year in Atlanta, Penix a year from now at 24 is ready and the Falcons make the move and eat 1 year of paying Cousins while not playing him.
@louisloother301 10 днів тому
THEY ARENT DEVELOPING HIM LMAO; HE IS WHAT HE IS CAUSE HE'S 24!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He's a good player but this is his ceiling.....
@covenant11 10 днів тому
Hey, remember when the Jets signed a vet to complete their team and he tore his achilleas 10 minutes into the season? This pick is inspired imo.
@user-tr4jj9pt7x 9 днів тому
@covenant11 Then, you DON'T sign a 36 year old QB coming off an achilles injury and pay him $90m guaranteed, in the first place. If you DO sign a QB like that you have to go "all in" for those two to three years that you have him. Penix is ready start. The Falcons could have drafted him and spent the $90m elsewhere.
@stebo5562 9 днів тому
@@user-tr4jj9pt7x Hey wouldn’t have been available. If teams were expecting the falcons to go QB, they would’ve traded in front of them
@Slimkidd730 8 днів тому
@@user-tr4jj9pt7x " If you DO sign a QB like that you have to go "all in" for those two to three years that you have him." Ok, how is ATL not going all in with Kirk? Your take would make sense if ATL ONLY DRAFT PICK for he next 2 or 3 years was the 8th overall pick in 24' draft.
@user-tr4jj9pt7x 8 днів тому
@@Slimkidd730 If you're all in with Kirk then you draft a player that can help the team this season. The 8th pick of the draft is expected to be an immediate starter. They could have drafted that excellent pass rusher from UCLA. How about another offensive weapon? How long before the the calls for Penix to start begin? If he ends up starting - for any reason, Atlanta has spent $90m! on a guy who is not playing.
@kyledavis635 8 днів тому
@@stebo5562 That might be the most ridiculous comment I've heard yet regarding the Penix situation....
@davidcbickham 10 днів тому
Rodgers is damn near 40, how long is he going to play for? Jets probably should've taken a QB
@thekingsson1757 10 днів тому
Facts
@Trinison7 10 днів тому
Somebody needs to get Baldy on the phone because Baldy is the one who predicted this while he was swimming in his pool a couple weeks ago
@ORagnar 10 днів тому
That would be Interesting... o
@aneesabashir8496 10 днів тому
People pretending like Kirk Cousins isn't going to be 36 coming off an Achilles & could pop it any minute during the season
@JohnScott-JacobiteBee 10 днів тому
I know. I think they had to pay a higher price than necessary, since they picked so high, but the pick makes sense. I do not understand the confusion over the pick
@grovepeate3316 10 днів тому
Then Arthur Blank is one dumb owner. Two years guaranteed 100 million SMH !
@joshscharf4230 10 днів тому
Penix has had 4 season ending injuries
@obamacare4811 10 днів тому
It's wild how a decent qb gets hurt and people think they'll get better cam messed up his throwing shoulder and broke his foot wasn't the same shocker russel wilson tears a tendon in his throwing hand and something is just off I wonder why Carson the scrambling qb was on his way to an mvp tears his acl and is washed falcons are wild for giving kirk 100 mill
@user-xn1eo9bc7r 10 днів тому
Penix has twice as many torn ACLs as Kirk does Achilles bro
@jackson5781 10 днів тому
As a Chiefs fan, this is something that makes sense. I'm gonna tell you Falcons fans what makes sense. We had Alex Smith, and you all Forget Patrick Mahomes as a Rookie sat on the bench, then we were off and running. With Cousins you have two years, and can build the offensive line, plug in Penix and be ready and take care of the 5th year option so basically you have 3 years on a rookie deal. Allows Penix to heal up. Allows cousins to keep the Falcons competitive and be good for years to come
@eincan1313 10 днів тому
Not the exactly same. Alex Smith wasn’t just signed to $100 million guaranteed. Mahomes was 2 years younger than Penix and only sat 1 year as Smith left for Wash.
@babydriver8844 10 днів тому
Penix has had 2 healthy seasons of football everyone saying he’s injury prone is just copying what they heard from somebody elsr brain dead not thinking for themselves
@ThePlanet428 10 днів тому
@@eincan1313of course he wasn't QBs weren't being paid that back then 😂. And what does Penix age have to do with it. Penix age as argument has been one of the worst things I've ever heard so far. The average age of Superbowl winning QBs is 31 😂
@Travolta12e 10 днів тому
The problem is that Penix is old and was projected to be drafted around 37
@eincan1313 10 днів тому
@@ThePlanet428 Granted he is only 2-3 years older than most of the other guys, but assuming the player is identical would you want to draft a franchise QB who is only 21 or one who is 24? All things being equal I would take the younger guy.
@eincan1313 10 днів тому
You can’t compare this to Green Bay. They took Rodgers at 27 and Love at 26. This was the 8th pick in a loaded draft. Plus Penix will be 27 going on 28 in 3-4 years. It may work out but I don’t see how you justify this today.
@jakehutchison5761 10 днів тому
Pocket QBs play into their late 30s. If Penix doesn't start still hes 26 they will still get a decade of play out of him. Obviously everything depends on if he works out or not.
@MatthewLarose-jp7bj 10 днів тому
draft was not that loaded. one of the major reasons we saw very few moves from the back of the first to the middle or the top, the prospects later on were not worth moving back for
@paulchoi1461 9 днів тому
Age doesn’t matter for QB
@Slimkidd730 8 днів тому
Yes, you can compare it to Green Bay. That situations aren't so different to the point where ATL can't aspire to do what they did, SUCCESSION PLAN. Point blank period BOTH salutations are about having a succession plan. ATL never said the situations are the EXACT same, What they said was that GReen Bay had a succession plan and let their future young QB sit and learn and thats what ATL is doing. "Plus Penix will be 27 going on 28 in 3-4 years." ANd people need to really stop trying to force their opinion. This is a 2 YEAR DEAL. Pennix will be age 26 when he first starts in 26' season. Jordan Love is 25 and just finished his FIRST YEAR. Whats the big difference there?
@aztronomy7457 8 днів тому
You can compare it. Packers were in complete win now championship mode. They were right there. Falcons will not sniff the NFC championship.
@Andrew_M_Ward 10 днів тому
Um.. The JETS signed a QB and we're "all taken care of" and see how that worked out.
@jeanfourcade 9 днів тому
Cousins, 36, is on a 2 year deal. Perfect timing to draft and develop a 1st round QB under a solid vet. Why is everyone so riled up ?!?
@nhshenanigans4401 9 днів тому
4 year
@Slimkidd730 8 днів тому
@@nhshenanigans4401 4 years but 2 YEARS GUARANTEED. ATL can CUT and get RID of Cousins in 2 years. This is where the people who keep bashing the move keep failing out. Cousins isn't a 4 yearS LONG TERM option as he thought he was.
@DannyKaffee 10 днів тому
Ian is carrying water for the Falcons front office. This is the price for getting inside information. I wonder if his contact is Rich McKay or Terry Fontenot. Probably Fontenot.
@poespoemspwnposers8007 10 днів тому
nothing of what he said is wrong though lol
@grovepeate3316 10 днів тому
Absolutely. He's 24 and when he gets a chance he's a 27 yr old rookie.
@DannyKaffee 10 днів тому
@@poespoemspwnposers8007 I disagree. No rational person thinks this was a good decision. But Ian wants to provide some cover for his contact to gain additional favor for the future.
@poespoemspwnposers8007 10 днів тому
@@DannyKaffee was it the absolute best decision they could've made for the immediate future? probably not, but having two extremely capable guys at your most important position is far from being irrational, especially when one of them is 35 and already injury prone.
@DWoodsII 10 днів тому
@@DannyKaffee because the falcons drafted someone to replace Cousins in a few yrs? Y’all mfs think Cousins is a MVP caliber QB. Didn’t Farve and Rodgers both have a QBs drafted to replace them?? 🤔
@randy7928 10 днів тому
It makes sense if they feel like Cousins will give them enough wins that they will not have another opportunity to draft this early. I'm not sure how Cousins' contract is structured, but plenty of QB's have benefited from sitting a year or two.
@jakehutchison5761 10 днів тому
They are on the hook for Cousins for 2 years. The 3rd is a team option with only a 10 million cap hit which is nothing in todays NFL.
@willault9120 10 днів тому
People are really over thinking the Penix pick!! It was absolutely the perfect pick. Possibly found their franchise quarterback. Two years of Cousins will only benefit Penix.
@thetrib1 10 днів тому
It could be 2 years of cousins. It might be. It honestly could be 4 years and now penix is playing on an option year to see how much they want to pay their non rookie qb who is 28
@willault9120 10 днів тому
@@thetrib1 Cousins only has two years guaranteed. That gives the Falcons two cheap years remaining on Penix contract and his 5th year option. More than enough to take advantage of the salary cap and not paying top qb money. And heck, there's a good chance Penix starts year two if he outperforms Cousins.
@thetrib1 10 днів тому
@@willault9120 the 3rd year if cut is 26 mil of dead cap. ADD that to what penix will be making...probably 10 mil? So that would be essentially 36 mil for penix. That isn't cheap. And it will be essentially his rookie year. His 4th year is when he will be cheap. And again I stress this...this is if cousins either plays poorly or gets injured for a prolonged time. If he doesn't then penix's 5th year option is what penix will start with and they get 1 year to know whether or not
@Slimkidd730 8 днів тому
@@thetrib1 No way its going to be 4 years, honestly? How can you say that when its 2 years guaranteed? Thats what makes it a 2 year deal, they're cutting Cousins in 2 years. Thats why he pissed because he sees the writing on the wall. Pennix may play on the option year but it won't be his FIRST YEAR. Pennix is tarting in 2 years on his 3rd year where he'll be 26.
@Slimkidd730 8 днів тому
@@thetrib1 ". ADD that to what penix will be making...probably 10 mil? So that would be essentially 36 mil for penix." That doesn't matter when the cap keeps GOING UP. 36 mil ON YEAR for your future franchise QB? Okay, sign me up That doesn't change anything. Broncos just cut Wilson for a 85 mil dead cap hit. You keep bringing up Pennis 5th year otion but that isn't when he's going to start, he's starting in 2 YEARS BRO PERIOD. The 26' season is when Pennix starts. THats just his 3RD YEAR. ATL will have 3 years of evaluating him BEFORE having to pay him PERIOD.
@romanhagedorn5667 10 днів тому
It's always interesting to watch teams weigh what is more important, having stability at QB for the future or winning a Super Bowl now? Green Bay is a perfect example, they have Jordan Love but what happens if he doesn't win a Super Bowl, and what if not picking him was used to get someone that would have gotten Rodgers another Superbowl? The Packers have had the luxury of not worrying about QB for 30ish years, with 2 Hall of Famers, and 2 Super Bowls. Is 2 Super Bowls in that timespan enough to be happy with stability at QB?
@xaviertobias7942 10 днів тому
Here's the faulty logic in Ian's take, if Kirk goes out and becomes a two-time MVP, will the Falcons really let him go early so they can plug in a 26yr old guy who hasn't played much if any NFL football? "Oh but he could be the next Jordan Love," he could also flame-out like most QB prospects. It's also one thing if Kirk was a longtime Falcon and the team were thinking about transitioning, but he's not. He's a goddamn free agent signing they just gave $100m GTD to.
@paulsmith9198 10 днів тому
Cousins has 2 years of guaranteed money. Heck, Penix can blow out another knee and fully rehab by the time he'll actually be needed.
@USAFVET1998 9 днів тому
I personally like this move, and I think having him sit behind Cousins for a while and learning is gonna be beneficial. They’re playing the long game! Brilliant!! 👍
@bretttaylor3787 9 днів тому
Why pay Kirk $100M guaranteed if you're not trying to win now?
@Shigzmi 8 днів тому
People keep forgetting jordan love was 3 years younger than penix when drafted.
@btbarr16 10 днів тому
Kirk is 35 Rich, they absolutely should be thinking about 2027.
@ok_but_why 10 днів тому
So they draft a 24 year old QB pro-ready QB to sit until 2027?
@raven-19x 9 днів тому
Tom Brady making everyone think QBs can last to mid 40s. 😂
@yagotta2495 9 днів тому
@@raven-19x7 years isn't good enough?
@robstatonfootball 10 днів тому
Big fat thanks a bunch Ian for tipping this pick on air, the shock of the draft. Come on, don't ruin these things
@joshstaffeld837 10 днів тому
Normally I agree. But for this one I applaud it. Ian had been saying this for days and up to just before the draft when every single colleague would laugh and mock him for even suggesting it. The highlight of the draft for me was Ian being right and telling them to eat it just before the pick.
@robstatonfootball 10 днів тому
@@joshstaffeld837 Well Ian could've had his crow after the pick was made. He didn't have to ruin the suspense for us to have 'his moment'. It isn't about him. Joke.
@gbmbg114 10 днів тому
Lol Rich bringing up the Jets taking JJ at #10 actually makes this pick make waaaaaaay more sense to me.. my gut reaction was, “damn, that would’ve been a smart franchise move”..
@nickh2935 10 днів тому
“Would have been a smart franchise move” you can tell this move would have been smart because Jet fan eisen is totally laughing off the idea and said it as a joke.
@JasonMB11 10 днів тому
Very intelligent pick...future star!!
@freshparkfilms 10 днів тому
3:54 i think Adam made it pretty clear makes sense to me, you have to remember these owners are playing with millions, we might react a certain way because we are worried about thousands but these owners/gms are playing with millions and are trying to build something for the long haul, the bug picture. Plus I think it will help Penix immensely to sit behind Kirk learn and also have time to rest and strengthen his body because lets face it gis biggest downside is gis i jury report...😅maybe im crazy but i just think they are looking at the big picture & the long term imo but then again what do I know lol😂😊
@hellosurge4622 10 днів тому
The pick makes perfect sense to me. It’s insurance on Cousins and prep for the future. After Kirk’s contract is up caleb will be 25ish and a baller for like 10 years.
@CTRanks13 10 днів тому
But if you think about it the Jets kind of did the same thing at a different position. It's just insurance so that we have a quality player when a veteran inevitably leaves the team or god forbid gets injured.
@mattbalfe2983 10 днів тому
Also the Falcons very well may not have 1st round picks in 2 years with the tampering punishment
@SenorJuan2023 10 днів тому
Saints, by contrast, passed up on Lamar Jackson to move up for DE that didn't pan out. Lamar would have helped during Brees' injuries, in the playoffs, etc. Then we pay big bucks for Derek Carr who will probably only be with us for another couple of years.
@Slimkidd730 8 днів тому
So glad SAints passed on Lamar Jackson, I was soc scared they would take him.
@SenorJuan2023 8 днів тому
@@Slimkidd730 Brees might have retired earlier with a decent QB already in place.
@SenorJuan2023 8 днів тому
@@Slimkidd730 uh, Lamar is better than anybody we've had the past few years. SMH
@sirtavion20 10 днів тому
I love this pick for us with cousins foot being not completely healed. We just shored up the position for at least the next 7 years. After what we dealt with in Mariota and Ridder... we're good now
@levisingleton4921 9 днів тому
We could have just signed a bridge dude and spent that money on improving our team, or we could have used that pick to improve our team. Instead we half-assed both and preparing for the win maybe now future....
@hobhamwich 9 днів тому
Uh, because their number 1 is 35 and blew out his Achilles? This isn't a mystery. Can't fathom some people's confusion.
@DirtyBird2187 8 днів тому
Jets didn't draft a Qb for the future because they have No Oline. Elite edge is what Atlanta needed. Not 1 ELITE pass rusher coming out this year. Wants Atl to draft linemen at 8 that were snagged in the mid teens. Trippin. The best insurance policy🙌
@noelmunoz2571 10 днів тому
There's probably gonna be a trend where rookie qbs reject being drafted by certain teams now because they are not going to want to sit on ice for 2 years. How is Penix going to feel by next year while some rookie qbs and 2nd years are out there balling and he just has a headset on watching...
@EL_LeonFredo9 10 днів тому
Mahomes sat and Aaron Rodgers sat
@noelmunoz2571 10 днів тому
@@EL_LeonFredo9 but Penix is 24 years old already
@jakehutchison5761 10 днів тому
He will be getting paid millions a year to practice. A pretty good gig if you can get it.
@Slimkidd730 8 днів тому
@@noelmunoz2571 So....QBs play into their late 30s now and history is nice to QBs who sit. Love just finished his first year and is 25.
@gpeng05 10 днів тому
The amount of cap room the Falcons are devoting to the QB position this season and next is just incredibly bad portfolio management.
@sirtavion20 10 днів тому
Cap balloons every year... they'll be fine lol the rookie salaries are slotted so you'd have to pay that amount to anyone drafted at 8... might as well get your guy for the future
@SenorJuan2023 10 днів тому
Have to pay big bucks for above average QB's now. Welcome to the NFL.
@jakehutchison5761 10 днів тому
They aren't paying anybody yet. They have 6 real money guys on the roster. They have PLENTY of cap space moving forward
@matthewkerber8315 8 днів тому
Great points by Ian! He’s making points that Rich is incapable of understanding. Rich just isn’t smart enough to understand what’s happening here. Ian makes a great point by saying that when the Packers drafted Love it motivated Rodgers to have back to back MVP seasons. They were the #1 seed the next year when they drafted Love. Again, it’s very simple. Amazing that Rich has spent this much time on this and still can’t figure it out. It’s not very difficult
@tjayd1225 10 днів тому
It’s not a penix player problem it’s a why even sign Kirk cousins and give him 100 million guaranteed problem
@paultrent8490 10 днів тому
100% agree with Ian. Look at the last 25 years of 10 plus win seasons the Packers have had with a clear QB succession plan vs teams like the Jets and others who keep chasing their tail, or in the case of the Jets the Packers QBs after they are washed.
@myfootballjesus 10 днів тому
lets talk about about the NFL DRAFT crowds and TV Ratings VS NBA playoffs , the NBA DREAMS of getting HUGE crowds like that at their draft or the TV ratings the draft gets compared to NBA playoffs games WOW
@cindyfagerstrom8825 10 днів тому
This is a great show with excellent guests. Subscribers way up in spite of Rich having tunnel vision, not thinking creatively and hamming it up for Michigan and the Jets to the point of annoyance. Thank God for the guests to sort it all out. Cousins just lost the last 2 years of his deal.
@coreydrennan934 10 днів тому
When you think about the pick, you have to keep in mind the season they just had. Go back through the season and see how many games that Ridder/Heinicke cost them. They want solid qb play for 10-15 years. They paid 100m plus 8 overall to hopefully get it. Its a steep price, but if Penix hits, its worth that plus so much more. Its gambling baby.
@gbmbg114 10 днів тому
And he’s much more likely to hit after sitting a couple years behind a solid, smart QB like Cousins.. the young skill players will come into their prime as Penix is ready to start.. When you put it like that, Penix and Cousins are each other’s insurance policies..
@kylemucerino2558 10 днів тому
The more I think about whether him being 24 already and maybe having to wait until he's 26 to play is such a bad thing when in reality the way that he plays is more conducive to a guy who can play until he's in his mid-to-late 30s so if they love him that much they probably just thought we want to have him for his years 26-36 and let him learn for a year or two.
@M015T_ 7 днів тому
People clown on the Penix pick, which although questionable process makes some sense, meanwhile the Orhorhoro trade up was possibly the worst pick in the draft
@jacksondiemert4322 9 днів тому
Low key wish we passed on Kirk drafted penix and traded for tee Higgins and loaded up
@LeeRev67 7 днів тому
Again the problem is Kirk's contract isn't structured in a way that would make taking a QB that early make sense. It isn't easily tradable or able to get out of within the next 2 years, and I really want people to stop comparing this to the Packers. For one Rodgers has a WAY different mind set than Cousins, and secondly and most importantly the Packers picked in the 20's this pick was number 8. That is a massive difference and the Falcons have had the number 8 pick 3 years in a row now and they always pick luxury, and not saying they wont work out but in the first half of the first round you gotta also take guys that fill holes and are high valued positions. And the Falcons do need some serious help on the defense they should have spent every pick on defense or O line.
@olzzydlzzy6750 10 днів тому
All the time on football shows we go on and on about how important the QB position is and how its so important people go to the right place and play at the right time. Then as soon as a team plans for their ALMOST IMMEDIATE FUTURE (2 seasons is not that far away) its seen as a bad thing? Whole narrative last year was "the falcons have a good roster if they had a QB they would have won the NFC South" now they have a QB for now and a QB for later and suddenly nobody cares that they are still the probable favorites for next years division title.
@user-tr4jj9pt7x 9 днів тому
The Packers were a Super Bowl close team. The Love pick could have been used to bolster the team. And, it wasn't the 8th pick of the draft! They didn't know that Penix was eligible in the draft??? Why spend $90m guaranteed on a FA QB???
@kliquein 8 днів тому
Great draft pick
@mattcarberry368 10 днів тому
i don't wanna hear he was a "reach"... he was clearly not making past the 11-13 range with Vikings/Broncos/Raiders, and it's not like you can just force a team inbetween 8 and those spots to give you assets to move up if they aren't interested, and just because you read mock drafts that didn't have Penix that high doesn't mean that's how reality was gonna go..... taking him a few spots ahead of where he was gonna go isn't "reaching"...... but that said, if the Falcons liked Penix that much to take him Top 10, then why they gave a 4 YEAR contract to Cousins is beyond me lol it's not like you draft a 23 y/o QB in the Top 10 to sit him until he's 27/28 before starting him, i don't understand what their foresight was here (or lack thereof)
@corvus2512 10 днів тому
It’s not a 4 year contract, it’s 2 years of guaranteed money so in real terms it’s a 2 year contract, Penix will be 26 with 2 years of learning under him at the latest. There is also every chance Cousins has a mediocre year and the Falcons decide to play Penix after just 1 year at which point he will have just turned 25. Nothing is stopping Atlanta from benching Cousins at any point in the next 2 seasons and making Penix the guy. I actually agree with you, if Penix was who they wanted at 8 then don’t sign Cousins and just go with Penix but for whatever reason they wanted to have Penix sit at least 1 year behind Cousins
@juandirection8820 10 днів тому
Vikings and Broncos were locked in on nix/JJ, Raiders sure. Still a dumb move
@mattcarberry368 10 днів тому
@@corvus2512 yeah that's kinda what i figured, but Terry Fontenot himself made some comment about Penix sitting for 4 years and it's just like what the hell are they thinking lol but likely he said it that way to try and cool Kirk Cousins down.....i never actually expected Cousins to play all 4 years even before they took Penix and yeah if there was so much interest in a top 10 QB then they could have found a much cheaper bridge/bandaid than $100M for Cousins (or whatever the specific guaranteed number is)
@corvus2512 10 днів тому
@@mattcarberry368 Yeah, I’m a Falcons fan and I am NOT defending what they did, I thought we would take Dallas Turner or Odunze but now that we are here I’m hoping maybe Penix can take over this time next year and we just eat the 50 mil we would owe Cousins for the second year…. Though I don’t know how much the dead money would be for Cousins 3rd and 4th years….
@mattcarberry368 10 днів тому
@@corvus2512 his dead caps by year go 90M, 65, 35, 12.5 .... year 3 his cap hit is greater than his dead cap (also when his roster bonuses start which is another sign that's where the team is making business decisions, would give them more incentive to get rid of him before year 3 when those bonuses trigger), and a combined 47.5M dead cap for his last 2 seasons by todays standards, especially a couple more years from now, is basically nothing.... so yeah in reality it's a 2 year commitment, everything beyond that is easily escapable but honestly drafting Penix is better than signing a 36 year old off an achillies who never won a big game in his career, so the pick doesn't need defending but the signing does lol
@tylerwosnig9098 9 днів тому
Not even a two year proposition...he's coming off of an Achilles. There is no say he will be like he was
@ericthurman1050 10 днів тому
its Avery smart move for sooooo many REASONS. See Packers especiallyJ. Love. you have him under a decent contract for longer so instead of a cheap contract and then a massive jump you have a cheap contract and a moderate step up. you have a clear succession plan, you get to make sure the player is right and knows the system and the Falcons are in a very winnable division without a good great qb and nows they have Cousins and their future. there is plenty of help for whatever else they need in later rounds too. they have RBS, WRS and a good TE what is the down side?
@chrismyco7950 10 днів тому
the packers are not equivalent that was a late round first pick, and Rodgers had two down years previous and Jordan love was clearly a developmental QB. none of those apply here.
@jamesjohnson9316 10 днів тому
Was I shocked with the Falcons getting MPJ at 8th overall? Yes. Would I have preferred an Edge Rusher or something to help bolster the Falcons Defense? Yes. BUT... I can completely understand why they drafted MPJ as Ian said "Nothing's more important than a QB" and that was EVIDENT in the previous season for the Falcons. Plenty of weapons on Offense with a, finally, solid Defense and none of that mattered because of QB situation. So having some "insurance" for now AND in the future to never be in that situation and to watch your team suck because your QB keeps throwing picks in the Redzone almost every week is something I can get behind. (Assuming that both Kirk and MPJ are leagues better than Ridder of course)
@themasonera 8 днів тому
No what actuallymakes sense was they get Fields, pay less, use that moneyto build the line and defense more. Then use the draft pick to take Udunze! That's what makes sense!
@BoW-we9qf 8 днів тому
It’s simple. QB second contracts are killing teams. They know in two years they will either have to draft whoever is available in whatever position they are in(which probably won’t be better than this year), pay another veteran the kind of money they just paid Cousins, or get a cheaper stop gap veteran. Having a rookie contract QB that you can win with is the modern NFL (Brock Purdy). QB guaranteed money is going to sink a lot of teams in the upcoming years. Only one Mahomes out there right now. All of the other QB’s aren’t living up to their money.
@koopercupp523 10 днів тому
Falcons picking Penix means other teams can't pick Penix, Falcons playing 4d chess
@hoek-ni8fl 10 днів тому
It doesn't
@zaneramsey 10 днів тому
At all lol
@JACKXK 10 днів тому
It makes perfect sense if they know they are going to lose multiple 1st round picks -- like for tampering, for example.
@zaneramsey 10 днів тому
@@JACKXK lmao
@torreyanderson6833 9 днів тому
If you're that scared of Kirk getting hurt, you simply don't/shouldn't have given him all of that **gauranteed** money. That's the bottom line here. If you're going to go all-in, then own it and continue to go all-in by drafting an immediate difference maker at pick #8.
@allenboyer2207 9 днів тому
The Falcons defense is a disaster. Ignoring it with this pick is a problem no matter how you spin it.
@psharp66 10 днів тому
The pick makes perfect sense. Ian Rappo is right. QB is the most important position in all of sport and Falcons will start him in Year 3.
@justinkane2739 10 днів тому
I don’t get that though. You want to win now because u payed someone a lot of money why not trade back if ur qb is still there then fine take him later but if he isn’t take some good defenders you desperately need
@esawfranco_xiii 10 днів тому
He'll be 27
@timw8646 10 днів тому
@@justinkane2739 think about this way... who is to say kirk won't get injured? at least they will have penix as their backup. plus, do you really think cousin is going to take the falcons to the promise land? no
@oscaru5342 10 днів тому
Then why did they sign him and give him that monster contract..?
@jackson5781 10 днів тому
Allows Atlanta to build the line
@user-mg6bk2yy1g 10 днів тому
This is what one year with Ridder has done to Falcons lol
@user-en9qd5nx8w 10 днів тому
Penix will be what, 28 before he finally gets a start?
@charliemirus4124 8 днів тому
So many people seem to be forgetting an important fact: Kirk Cousins is coming off of an Achilles tear. If things aren’t the same when he comes back, what then?
@kyledavis635 8 днів тому
Then the Cousins signing was stupid. Best you can say about Penix is that he is an insurance policy, but nobody even knows how good the policy is, because he's never played in the NFL. And that policy has an opportunity cost of an impact player that could help you win now, as opposed to paying the #8 player in the draft to sit for who knows how long? The Falcons - or any NFL team for that matter (except maybe the '85 Bears) - don't have the luxury of doing what they did...
@lh1678 8 днів тому
Kirk Cousins is a slightly better version of Matty Ice..Not expecting a whole lot from my team this year..total surprise if we win the NFC South this year.
@Falcons8455 10 днів тому
All it comes down to is whether Penix is great. If he's great then it's a great pick. If not, then it is awful. Him starting in 2-3 years is perfectly fine even at 24. QBs play well into late 30s now if they're good.
@kyledavis635 8 днів тому
Very good point. But why do people think Penix will be great... he was the fourth QB taken in this draft and many teams had him as the 6th best prospect? He is not very mobile, which makes it that much more difficult to succeed in today's NFL... I like him but he's certainly not likely to come in after sitting for two years and be good right away. You're having to pay him as the 8th pick.... Let's say it he gets it together in year 4 after sitting for two years. Now you'll have to pay him big to retain him i.e you'll likely get minimal benefit out of his rookie deal. And who knows what the QB landscape looks like in terms of rookies and free agents that far into the future? This pick is well beyond questionable...
@Falcons8455 8 днів тому
@@kyledavis635 Projections, especially for QBs, are wrong all the time. And you can't call Penix immobile. He is a great runner, who is just an even better passer. 4.5 40 yard dash and has one of the best pressure to sack rates since the stat started being tracked, only 6.5%. He is a master at evading rushers.
@alexanderfedderly 7 днів тому
I think this move would make a lot of sense... if they just hadn't paid Cousins so much money. I thought Cousins was the right guy to go get if you want to maximize your chances of winning right now, but they really overpaid for a guy nearing the end of his career, coming off a major injury. If they had paid Cousins half as much, and then picked Penix at 8, I could maybe get on board with that. But if you sign a guy for a $180 million, you're going all in on right now, and that means doing everything you can to build the roster, not waste such valuable draft capital on a back-up.
@chrisclark2747 8 днів тому
The idea that drafting Penix makes sense because it sets you up for the next 10 years assumes Penix will be good in the NFL (after spending six years in college and two years on the bench). It makes no sense to use a Top 10 pick on a guy who won't help your team for two years right after giving a QB $100mil in free agency. Nevermind what it does to the relationships, the Falcons should be doing everything they can to win now with Cousins (or they shouldn't have signed him in the first place).
@ca9735 8 днів тому
4:28 this is a flawed argument. The Jets needs out weighed the Falcons. Oline is like the second most important thing to a successful team and the Falcons have that the Jets didn’t. The Falcons filled their needs in the later rounds. It was a great move.
@josephlavigne1495 9 днів тому
There's no way Michael penix junior will sit for that long. Because he is the better of the 2 quarterbacks, regardless of his experience.... In the big moment he is a Baller... Woof
@user-mp6dl7wc9z 10 днів тому
IT IS BETTER TO WIN 1 SB THEN BE SET AT QB FOR 12 YEARS
@atlrising 10 днів тому
Lol at thinking Kirk and Dallas Turner wins you a Super Bowl. Kirk had Danielle Hunter and couldn’t beat Daniel Jones at home
@kennethmorsee 7 днів тому
Signing Cousins instantly made them playoff contenders especially in the worst division in football. There is no one player the Falcon's could have drafted at 8 that would have made them SB contenders this year so how is it a wasted pick? Drafting Penix gives them the best chance to insure that they will at least stay playoff contenders for the next decade+.
@PJ-qx5yt 9 днів тому
Eisen: I just don't get it. Rapsheet: the quarterback is the most important position Eisen: I just don't get it Rapsheet: the Falcons are set for the next 12 years Eisen: I just dont get it Rapsheet: look at what the Jets had to give up to get Rodgers Eisen: its just a headscratcher.. Lmfao
@guamie 10 днів тому
He assumes that Pennix isn't a complete bust and they be set for 2 years.
@JMeez917 9 днів тому
The Packers have had 3 QBs in 30yrs...it works.
@teejaye6226 10 днів тому
Great....Maybe Penix will start by age 30......The Atlanta 28-3's strike again.
@joshscharf4230 10 днів тому
What if Penix who is injury prone isn't good most likely maybe 2 of these QBs will be starters 3 years from now look at 2021 draft
@antoniobrown3219 10 днів тому
What if I looked up in the sky and a $100 bill landed on my nose?
@78LedHead 8 днів тому
I can't for the life of my understand why people think this pick was dumb. I'm not a Falcons fan, but I totally get why they did it. Kirk Cousins is Kirk Cousins. He's not going to last long, and the injury may mess with him. Penix isn't ready to start. Cousins can help them win until Penix is ready, and with Cousins they're probably not going to pick that high again. Penix will seamlessly take over, much like Aaron Rodgers did for Favre.
@user-mp6dl7wc9z 10 днів тому
WINNING A SB MATTERS MORE THAN A QB - GB MIGHT HAVE LOST A SB BY TAKING JORDAN LOVE INSTEAD OF SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP A SB RIGHT AWAY
@armenican2545 10 днів тому
Look at the briteside MPJ can claim social security when he gets to start
@matthewkerber8315 8 днів тому
Not sure why Rich can’t understand this. It’s very simple. Having Pennix will push Cousins to play excellent because he knows Pennix will start if he does not play excellent. Pennix comes in year 3 and has 3 years left on his cheap rookie deal. Look at how it worked out with Love sitting behind Rodgers for a few years. Brilliant move. Again, this is very simple. Takes about 30 seconds to figure it out Rich. Come on!
@richardcoords1610 10 днів тому
It doesn't help Cousins in his window to get to a Super Bowl. Getting him help would have. End of story. The Packers would routinely do the same thing to Brett Favre and Aaron Rogers.
@thekingsson1757 10 днів тому
Nobody in Atl thought Kirk was getting us to the super bowl
@cherrylee2767 9 днів тому
rational explanation
@joshllorens4514 7 днів тому
Rap taking Rich to school. Rich gonna be wishing they had a qb when Rodgers pops his Achilles again or doesn't come back from his latest desert retreat.
@funnyperson4016 10 днів тому
lol it won’t make sense if Penix doesn’t sign the contract because he doesn’t want to be 28 by the time he gets a chance to prove himself.
@gregspauldini3139 10 днів тому
There's just no way this makes sense no matter how many people say it actually does, especially for a guy with Penix injury history. Plus you undermine Cousins by showing you're not as committed to him as he thought. I mean he'll get over that feeling but even so, their defense has been bad for a while. You're basically telling the team we don't want to win right now.
@paolee2730 7 днів тому
ATL owner says: Lamar Jackson is not someone we want, but let's pay a QB with an ACL, and then, draft Penix!
@LoveU-qd9ji 10 днів тому
Falcons dunbest move ever. Much better picks than a QB pickup when they already have Cousins who said he wants to retire in Atlanta. Penix is 24, he's a gamble and there are still other QB's on the board (Purdy'isk) they could get. Next 3 years QB's will be hug3 draft picks coming up
@NancyMoreau-mv1ph 10 днів тому
Ever heard of Steve Young.......look it up and you might figure it out about why they chose Penix
@clockwork1246 10 днів тому
how come ATL didn't take JJ then?
@michaelmoss5976 8 днів тому
If ATL was sooo SB ready, then why were they picking 8th? You're telling me that every other position group was/is 100% set? This is the all-time dumbest set of moves (Cousins signing and picking Penix) ever.
@anthonywoodruff4355 9 днів тому
Come on Rich! You had two players in the entire league who had guaranteed contracts, Kirk Cousins and DeShaun Watson, now there’s only Watson and the critics been crying about that one, what hypocrites, it’s the NFL, Not For Long. Maybe it’s because they’re quarterbacks, because every draft teams will draft your replacement each year…now a veteran quarterback isn’t going to get upset if the club draft a quarterback in the 5th round, but don’t let it be the first…a top 10 pick, minds are lost 😡 If anyone should be mad it should be Penix. He’s 24, now he has to sit on the bench for at least 2 years, I mean if everyone is worried about the money. Kirk is going to be alright, if not then the Falcons might have made the right decision by drafting Penix
@tedflaig7546 10 днів тому
Bottom line this is all guess work. Only time will tell if this was a bad move or not. The future is still being written. Does the pick seem odd, absolutely.
@christiansmith6776 9 днів тому
As a Falcons fan, I wanted them to do this the last 2 years of Matt Ryan's contract and draft Justin Fields. Instead, we drafted a unicorn TE but when Ryan left, we couldn't get him the ball. I'm actually happy they drafted Penix.
@natewright7419 10 днів тому
Rich is really upset about Penix Jr going #8. All of his efforts to talk the kid's draft stock down FAILED!!!
@ericw23 10 днів тому
I’m am so happy we got Penix. . LFG!!! Kirk is good for fantasy football. Not to win. We are stable at the most important position
@jamesankiewicz3141 10 днів тому
I was just as shocked as everybody when the announcement was made… But then two seconds later, I thought … what a brilliant pick!!! you get a back up quarterback now and your quarterback of the future… And it is the most important position in football so it’s always good to hit your bets with talent while you can… they might not be picking this high again for a long time… good job, Falcons!!
@Horndog08 7 днів тому
Rich and everyone else is so triggered bc they didn’t expect it. Cousins shrinks in the bright lights and has a vulnerable injury prone to causing problems. They develop a guy after a yr and push a qb competition in yr two. Other than Carolina, nobody in the div has a future answer at QB.
@mazzi.ozborne 10 днів тому
Rich is arguing like Kirk isn’t coming off an injury and it’s pissing me off
@timw8646 10 днів тому
drafting penix does make sense for the falcons
@oscaru5342 10 днів тому
I don't think so...
@Chitownsfinesthoops 10 днів тому
Definitely does because their QBs last year was awful and they need a really good QB backup when Cousins has bad wheels.
@mikec3756 10 днів тому
Cousins is a very good QB but he's not top 5. They should have gotten him some help to try to win in the next 2 years. Regarding injuries, Penix will probably get hurt before Cousins gets hurt again.
@Akkbar21 8 днів тому
Screw Kirk’s feelings. Is he a grown man and a pro or not? Good lord.
@theMinutemanPodcast 10 днів тому
It doesn't make sense. Sorry. If Kirk gets hurt, you just replace him with a 24 year old that has had 3 major surgeries in college who will also get hurt. If they chose McCarthy, that would make more sense. But Atlanta has two old injury prone QBs now
@EL_LeonFredo9 10 днів тому
They clearly want to develop him
@_jse123 10 днів тому
They wouldnt have take Drake May at 8
@Gungho73 10 днів тому
I certainly wouldn't have.
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