I think with Ward, NFL teams were scared to take him bc he loved basketball too and wanted to be in the NBA. With Jason White I think he just lacked athleticism

No trophy not even a Heisman will guarantee anything in the NFL. The Heisman awards the athlete that played the best throughout the season at the college level. However, I think most coaches at the professional level understand that success at the college level doesn’t automatically translate to success at the pro level. I think Manziel is a perfect example of that. It’s

@@spacejam3139 The biggest thing with Ward was his height (even though we have seen short QB's have success). Also NFL teams wanted him to consider the all too familiar "Changing positions." He refused (as he should have) and went to the NBA.

@@JP-jm9fy manziel was a party addicT

@@christopherrodriguez1777 I agree. Where I thought he went sideways wasn’t necessarily his party lifestyle. Truth is, at least in my opinion for what it’s worth, he wasn’t all that good a quarterback to begin with. Many of teams and coaches overlooked certain behaviors and shortcomings of players provided they had some ability that made them a great player of some kind. Manziel just didn’t fit into that equation. It’s possible that his ability was directly linked to his choice on lifestyle but then again maybe not.

Dolphins 4th pick in the draft order: tua is licking his chops

@@brandedmcgowan9414 i hope eagles draft chase

@@IlIlIllIIIlllI People act like Tua had a Nathan Peterman like year. He wasn't bad dude

@@mustafamohiuddin828 every team hopes you draft another 1st round WR. especially with that pathetic defense and no O line lol good luck

@@brandedmcgowan9414 3rd pick*

He’s so good

No trust us we all had to hear about him 😒

@@brentfox6540 salty that ha ran fir 150 and 3 on your team?

@@Phantum_forever what? No he didn't put those numbers up against my defense, and yes we all had to hear about Derrick Henry over and over

@@Phantum_forever lol dude was trash for his first 3 years and now he has had 2 good years people wanna say he's the best 🤣🤣🤣

And maybe Murray

This is a false notion. The reality is only 2% of college players even go pro. The Heisman players are just more high profile. Not like non-Heisman players have high pct of overall success.

How many Heisman winning QBs have won the super bowl tho? Genuinely want to know

Many trophy winners are that "most gifted athlete" as far back as Pop Warner. Unfortunately, with all that gifted comes with a poor work ethic. Too talented to be coached. That big step up to the pros takes more than just raw talent. Tom Brady showed what smarts and hard work can do.

@@npcshark7050 only 2. Roger Staubach and Jim Plunkett

He wasn’t really a bust as people say he was. Rg3 was great ,didnt he win offensive rookie of the year?

@@ryry_7775 you know what yea your right about that!

if Washington didn’t mishandle his injuries and always rush him back he would’ve had time to fully heal

@@XxDoomxBestxX I completely agree

Rex Grossman had back luck with injuries too. Must be an RG3 thing. They played together on the Skins.

He was pretty good when he was healthy too he was just never healthy

@@austinreed347 So he was never good. 🙃

@@6ixGudda uh no he had a couple solid seasons on the Rams and had a really good years on the Eagles and Vikings but every year between those years he had season ending injuries and that was the problem

Did no one else get the Star Wars reference in that comment?

@@brianhildebrandt5146 yeah I did I just don’t really care

you feel silly now don't you

No, cause his career is still 2 months long

@@michaelhizon4180 Annnnd your comment needs editing 😆

Weird giving the NFL as a whole wanted him gone. Once Peyton was signed by Denver, he was the labeled like he was the worst QB ever.

@@scmarine843 No it doesn’t. He wasn’t even on the team 2 weeks

Yep

@@grizz9084 yeah

Ehh he’s already 27 and running backs usually decline around 30 and to be in the all time yards lists he’d need 14,000 plus to even be top 5 and he’s at 5,860 so let’s say he only has a good 3 years left he’ll reach maybe 10,000 max don’t think he’ll be a top rusher of all time yards wise

@@yomommasfavoritebf tell that to Barry Sanders

@@terryohare6640 umm ok but Barry was doing it his whole career Henry’s first 2 years in the league and damn near almost his whole 3rd season he was not good infact he was really bad maybe if he was good those years he’d be up a lot higher in yards but he wasted basically 2 and half seasons of his career

easily

I agree

@@hackedpage2274 bruh what?

@@blargsharge2417 go like the song thats what

The NFL will be way better in the 2020s simple because QB play will be at a all time high because of the offensive innovation resulting in young QBs succeeding faster.

Well, most from 2000-2010 didnt get a shot. Even if they were drafted they were drafted in the later rounds.

@@albertojosejose7086 Then there was Brady. He never won the Heisman and didn't get drafted by the Patriots until Round 6. Turned out to be one of the best QBs in NFL history.

Probably something to do with politicking. Troy Smith only had 2542 yards passing and 30 TDs when he won the Heisman. That is super low for a Heisman winner. The dude went in the 5th round. Not as bad as the 2003 winner who went Undrafted. How do you win the Heisman and go undrafted? How does that happen? No one was like, we should get the Heisman winner. Was he that awful?

@@GundamGokuTV Having two rebuilt knee's before he even left Oklahoma didn't really help White's case for the NFL very much. They may have also felt that he was more a product of a system and the talent around him more then anything else.

College football and pro football are essentially two different sports, it has become closer though in recent years and that’s why a lot more are succeeding but beforehand winning the Heisman had little bearing on if you’d be a good professional player especially at QB

Seems like he’s got a second chance is a taking complete advantage of it

Yup in ATL

His only losing season was his first and then had 2 winning seasons but then sent away as a backup. He's never been in a great offensive system really

jackson is a horrible qb. like terrible. as was pam newton

Less "wiggle". Nice. 😁😆😊

he became a real good runner between the tackles as his career progressed, the only problem he had was staying healthy. Which is a shame cause he ran with great power in his Miami dolphin and lion days

He was good in the NFL but also was proven to be overhyped coming in. His college career and NFL career are too far a part in comparison.

He had 9,088 total yards throughout his career. He may have not lived up to expectations, but he had a really solid career

He had two 1k rushing season when he was actually the feature back with the Dolphins and Lions as well, he was a great versatile playmaker

@Harry Engel Pac 12 (then Pac 10) is generally an offense dominated conference.

He.... also posted this video in 2021. So he wouldn’t say “this year” anyways...

@@connoreastin6316 maybe you would say “this year” since in sports that pretty much interchangeable with “this season”

@TommyTalksCrypto L

As someone watching this in 2024, I agree.

Bradford wasn’t good at the NFL level even when healthy.

@@OnlyFacts662 I disagree. He had some flashses with abysmal Rams teams and did good in Minnesota.

@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong no, No he didn’t. He has a horrible win loss record and never appeared in a playoff game. To put him and RG3 in the same sentence says a lot about when you started watching football son. RG3 was a franchise changer and you could see it from the start, Bradford got a pass his rookie year but never progressed anyway. He was below average at best with the Viking. Sorry I don’t have a time machine for you

@@OnlyFacts662 Why you so aggressive lmao who hurt you little man

*Didn’t Bradford get injured vs BYU in his last college football game* _(which was also THE FIRST game in Jerry World aka the new Dallas stadium)_ ❓❓❓ Leaving college injured with a prize doesn’t offer tons of optimism for longevity in the pros. …If anything it messes with your mind.

That knee injury was devastating. RGIII could actually throw and was mobile at the same time. Out of all QB's who could scramble he was probably the best thrower beside Joe Burrow.

@@Hustla614 agreed. his rookie year was outstanding.

@@okolekahuna3862 his rookie was amazing. I didn't really see RG take too many risk and WAS GOOD INSTINCTIVELY. He ran when necessary but his throwing down the field and intermediate game was NICE and they had a nice running game to go with it. I wonder if RG3 never got hurt and Washington was able to draft and build more. Would they have contended for a super bowl in a few years after. Although his coaches would have to BURRY in his mind to slide when scrambling for yards. That's what separates Russell Wilson from other mobile QBs his sliding is A1 so is Aaron Rodgers. I always feel that Robert wasn't given a fair chance to just play his game. HE WAS VERY COACHABLE but you can't tell a player to not do something he naturally AND INSTINCTIVELY does best and tell him too only throw the ball is bull shit. That's why I didn't like the coaching decisions to change there offense for year 2. I like Kirk Cousins TENACITY when playing. He will sling the SHIT out of the ball but will coast you some deadly turnovers. IF RG3 was playing is today's NFL coming in fresh he would fit in. 9 years ago they were still emphasizing pocket QB. Almost all QBs now a days can move more freely. Even Josh Allen is great at scrambling.

@@Hustla614 Lamar Jackson can throw too cmon

@@ricocheteraw90sthebestdecadenever said he couldn't.

Pitt fan me either

He was awfully fun to watch....pun intended 😂😭. Dude had heart though!

@@Eynd297 as if normal adverts aren't annoying enough...go back to kids on minecraft vids

@@JH-ji6cj lol😂

@@JH-ji6cj yea he had moments but yea...

great cardinal tho

@@treythomas6836 yeah 👑

WRONG!! He demanded a trade & held out threatening to retire rather than play another down for the Bengals...The Raiders Head Coach Hugh Jackson {Carsons' former offensive coordinator in Cincy} made a trade for him [at the trade deadline] then he went to the Cardinals where he won his 1st playoff game.

@@CKWolf-kq5wz he still had a knee injury as a bengal

Well said

@Peters6221 if you watch his highlights and lowlights from his rookie season nearly every play he was literally running for his life and I get where you’re coming from that his injury was inevitable but maybe if he had a decent oline and didn’t end up in a garbage franchise he could’ve minimized the impact it would have on his career

Rose won an MVP tho

@@OmgRun666 yeah, but there's a huge difference people miss. RG3 was relying on teammates to help him. Rose didn't. He for some reason always landed on one foot in an awkward position and to this day I don't understand how no coach caught it and didn't tell him to quit landing on one leg in an awkward position. Even after multiple injuries due to the same thing. He's been able to play for a while now because of that one change. Of course when your early twenties and that athletic who can tell you anything? Nobody.

RG3 would have had a longer career if Mike Shanahan didn’t overplay him during his injury

unless if you're charles woodson lol

It’s a jinx like being on the cover of Madden.

@@JRKA It’s definitely hard to be able to transition from college to the pros and be successful. Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, Reggie Bush, and Derrick Henry. Mariota could have done well with wherever he went in the NFL because of his athleticism. I’ve always wanted Mariota to do good, but he’s always been told to be too quiet and not a great leader.

Derrick Henry, Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Murray, and Mark Ingram: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?

@@ajburrr Jury is still out on those QBs. Very early. Ingram has been solid. Henry is a beast.

Too many

Like twice

Literally one time

are you a steelers/ravens/bengals fan? as a titans fan i stand for NO browns slander

@@capt.jaylenbrown8534 i’m a browns fan

Spike Films yep

Palmer got robbed in that Steerlers playoff game 15 years ago, Bengals fan BTW

Since they are number 9, they can throw it on dimes like they aren’t even tryin

burrow said in an interview that he wears 9 bc he was a big fan of Drew Brees

K

RG3 is and will probably forever be my favorite player next to Tarik cohen

Blame the whole Washington organization , RG3 wasn’t supposed to be playing that night. They ruined his career.

RGIII staying healthy is one of the greatest "what if"s in pro sports history.

@@bharliedessalines1391 he never slid too. If he didn’t play for so many yards maybe his injuries wouldnt as severe

@@wrgly6714 as a Bears fan, I'm very okay with your reported selections

If Reggie had made a position switch to WR, I think he'd probably have been a faster version of Wes Welker

same. every field trip I took in school was mostly USC. I remember looking at that trophy multiple times. USC was at the rose bowl multiple times too

One of my favorite athletes of all time. Reggie was the prototype of the modern scat back. I wish would have converted to a wr later in his career. Probably could have added some years.

lmao scat back. Scat is poo my guy!

@@lf4692 well thats what the position is called my guy. I didnt write the rules of name giving for football positions lol go home casual

Exactly!

To be fair some were QBs that only succeeded in a air raid college offense that isnt viable to run in the NFL i get your point tho

I laugh everytime

I could picture him lean all the way back into his chain then lean forward again to speak into the mic

HE IS HOUDINI!

Yup the overhyped RB

@@brentfox6540 cap. and a qb

Well it depends, you don’t wanna end up stuck with a Zeke or Gurley.

@@PlayThenReview why is that

@@djsilver7442 because they’re not worth the asking price and contract commitment? Should be obvious

@@PlayThenReview neither of them were ever this dominant and the offense didn’t completely depend on their production.

@@mosescarter5980 That’s not some league-wide thing, dude. It’s never been. Derrick Henry is obviously an all-time talent, clearly the league’s best RB, but that wasn’t even the point of OP in the first place

The reality is that Jackson has a bigger arm and puts way more zip on it , not to mention rg3 isn't even in the same stratosphere in terms of running ability

@@Whoisitthatknowsyourthinking I'm suspicious that you are actually Lamar Jackson 🤔

Is derrick henry a joke to you?

Derrick Henry: Am I a joke to you??

Derrick henry:And I took that personally

@Zachias Noble I mean he was injured all the time and had a trash o line

Derrick Henry: ight bet here’s 2000 yards

As a Ram fan I would of love to see him with Mcvay I felt he would of been good

Hello my Madvillian friend.

rip DOOM

RIP DOOM

You're delusional, he sucked. Especially for the eagles.

No one has the Heisman for that year, Reggie Bush got it stripped and Vince Young didn't want it.

What? QB is the most valued position in the NFL

I still can’t believe Derrick Henry got picked at 45th overall

@@karsenshaw6094 lamar went 32 that’s a major steal

Ummm hellooooo??? Tyreek Hill was taken 156th overall

And they play each other this weekend lmao

I very much dislike him but Antonio Brown was taken at 195 in the 2010 draft.

Groza? I know ray guy is the punter award so is the other one a kicker award?

@James Satchwill the goat Roberto aguayo 😤

A shocking number of Biletnikoff winners have been major busts.

@@flaming_21savage52 lol he was so trash in the nfl though

Also didn't help he had off-field issues being married to some little-known chick named Kim Kardashomethingorother.

ever seen Barry Sanders?

@@Minivanmusician Barry is a once in a lifetime player hard to compare anyone else to him

Troy Smith was really good in college sad his career didn’t turn out the way it wanted to

That’s what I’m saying. I’m so confused

The differences between college and the NFL.

@@g.williams2047 so, why pick someone not as good in college as a heisman

@@g.williams2047 like I know some positions you have covered maybe the heismans that but not every team

@@javin9743 I think that it is due to the level of talent a player has around them, as well as their skillset. If I play QB at New Mexico State for example, with a subpar team, and play excellent, going 8-4 with a not so great team, I could excel in the NFL where I have much better players around me. A heisman winner who goes #1 overall is also likely going to start in a trainwreck of an organization as well, which will probably kill their career. Skillsets required in the NFL are also much different. In college, you see teams scoring 40+ points regularly, while in the NFL, most teams score around 20-low 30s. The game differs just so much. I'm not an expert at all, just my take.

rg3 had one good season but after the knee injury hes been below average at best

I think you mean Overrated

I’m a die hard HTTR FAN ❤️💛 RG3 put in a lot of work coming into the league with the Washington Redskins he helped us turn our franchise around for two years then he was derailed with injuries and bad decisions in the Locker room but sky’s was the limit for RG3 real ones know that for sure. Reggie Bush definitely was one of the key pieces for the Saints winning that ring after hurricane Katrina he was everything you wanted in an all purpose running back catching running and punt returns. They might didn’t have the longevity as some others but they were good players in the league before other circumstances became.

@@musicman76enator 🤡

@@chasezyy 🤡

Hell better hope the saints dont draft you

Ron Dayne says hi.

Yes you will.

Christian McCaffrey did everything Bush did, but much better

Yeah, I was surprised myself. Hope Burrow recovers, man that sucked to have him go down hurt like that, rookie season was pretty darn impressive before that happened.

I think a lot of people did. But I think the trajectory of Manziel really helped a lot of the guys after him realize they needed to change from a college attitude to a professional one or end up doing shitty club appearances to pay bills.

Baker is honestly a pleasant Surprise. Knock on wood, but he may be the Best Browns QB since Bernie Kosar

@@jeffdean4386 I don't know about that. Dwayne Haskins didn't seem to get that memo. As for Baker and Johnny I think the main thing it shows that similar attitudes doesn't equate to similar work effort.

If he wins at Kansas City I will take back everything bad I said about him but being better than that trainwreck Manzeil is no measuring stick.

@@breakglassdawkins1570 on what specifically?

2015 Panthers?

@@bobjohnson4709 bum receivers

@@austinreed347 but they went 15-1 and a super bowl appearance

@@bobjohnson4709 Obviously any team that makes a Super Bowl or gets close is a good team. But personally the Cardinals with Patrick Peterson and Honey Badger on defense with Palmer, Fitz and David Johnson on offense were special.

Also note: His Heisman Trophy was retracted.

Yep that was during bounty gate 😂

Those would be blindside blocks in today’s NFL. Did they not have that rule back then or something?

*Two blocks 😂

K

@@AzharulTambir No, the full rule that's in effect right now, didn't exist until the 2019 season

It’s the same with yards. 4000 yards used to be a golden benchmark for quarterbacks now that’s average to even below average. Same with scoring in the nba. Multiple players average 30 or close to it when it used to be like 1 or two players coming around that number and the rest of guys around low to mid 20s

Different era

Only a year ago 36 led the league....

I wouldn't put any stock into what happened last year 36 led the league in 2019, 50 in 2018, 34 in 2017, and 40 in 2016. As a matter of fact, over the last 5 years only twice would 32 TDs not have you in the top 5.

Couple seconds less just wouldn't have done it for me.

War eagle 🦅. Auburn!

Thanks for making me feel old.

@@wesleyhunt7599 lmaooooo....me too

You weren't alive!? Damn! Am I the old guy now!?👁👄👁

Hope this helps understand why. Wienke was 28, so nfl teams weren’t very interested. Crouch wasn’t a good passer. Palmer did go early the draft. Jason white’s knees were so banged up that he couldn’t even get under center. Matt Leinart was drafted early. Troy smith was undersized. Tebow had horrible mechanics. And Bradford was an early pick.

Quickest and fastest player I've ever seen play, it still blows me away when I watch highlights

@@RIPJimmyA7X He looked about twice as fast as Vick those Falcon years. Turned the corner like nothing, didn’t even need to cut.

He was good but he wasn't a bo Jackson or Adrian Peterson like he was hyped to be, he still was very good but is he even better than Brian Westbrook? Just sayin....

@@ericsigersmith2831 Reggie was otherworldly dominant at USC. Ironically, his crosstown college opposite at UCLA (who Bush clearly overshadowed during that time) would go on to be the decidedly better NFL running back: Maurice Jones-Drew. Yes, those two came out during the same time.

So you still ask the question wtf did he pitch the ball in national championship game with Texas... Cost us the game... Tho argument for the best game in history...

I rememeber him he took their last team to a national title when nebraska was bigtime

I’m a Nebraska fan so I’ve watched plenty of highlights of him. I feel like if he had played in today’s time he would have been a good quarterback in the NFL since QB’s are no longer just pocket passer and can run also

And war damn eagle

Nah

Undoubtedly

Lol

He was so good in college, it made me sad how his career turned out

@@Luke-uh7lq seriously, I really thought he would be the one to turn the browns into a playoff team

@Harry Engel not maturity wise, that would probably cause a downfall to his senior year if he stayed

Johnny was a booze hound

😂😂😁😁😁😁😁🤣🤣

He ran for 2000 this year that’s insane

@@masoncuomo1453 He ran for like 400. He bulldozed for 1600 more.

You know it, NFL players have short careers on average and especially short if they run with the ball.

Because most likely their talent Won’t translate. Henry is def the biggest exception

@@aidanc1088 I’m guessing that Henry’s slide had to do with the stigma around Alabama RBs. Saban runs his backs into the ground, so the durability and longevity are always a question with them.

Because the players in college are still pretty much kids (and the vast majority won’t be good enough for the NFL) the top athletes always stand out a bit more. Especially with quarterback, you don’t really need great decision making or pinpoint accuracy to be a top college QB. I think one of the best examples of this is Johnny Manziel. Because he was faster then everyone else, he could just run around until someone got open. But once he got to the NFL, most edge rushers were faster then him, so he needed to actually play QB.

Sometimes skillsets don't translate. Tebow is the best example

@@stevenasante8662 let’s be honest John elway will never get a good qb like peyton mannning ever again on the broncos. Tim Tebow was the best exception for elway than anyone else he has picked up in recent years. Also not to forget he passed on russel Wilson because he was “short”😑

The disrespect to Cam

@@Rohan_Mehta 4 good years and 2 great years rest were awful

@@oddoperator3524 he’s not a bust tho lmaoo, if he’s a bust than so is Palmer

@Jacob Howard exactly I think he will be a below average career qb with the highest season honor