which is ridiculous the brand power they have over people and the culture around their products

@@shanerGTI wouldn't delve that deeply into it. Apple isn't even that big overseas. People in America have money to throw away.

At least US has Apple

@@shanerGT it seriously is ridiculous especially with whole blue bubble vs green bubble. one of my friend lost some potential dates because of that

⁠@@shanerGTbrand power? You do realize Android is Google which is also a US company right? Maybe people are just capable of making their choices? And it happens to be the cheaper thinner long-lasting non-foldable iPhones?

i don't get why nobody is talking about the dead pixels. Even marcus kinda just ignored it

dead pixels in oneplus open- thanks for letting us know mkbhd, now I am not buying one!

dead pixels in oneplus open- thanks for letting us know mkbhd, now I am not buying one!

Except for the damn hole punch

totally agee

have a fold 4, babied it and the screen snapped down the middle at the hinge and there was no debris or anything to cause it. its currently getting fixed under warranty but they are just quite frankly not ready yet. super cool idea, but at over 2 grand thats insane. had the phone for 8 months

@@Centuri0n2013 I'm sorry that was your experience. And of course they're expensive. It's a folding screen. They've come a long way since the 1st Fold. They're improving with every generation.

@KCScorpion34 sure but people depend on their phones every day and if doing something as simple as using it as intended breaks it, there's some serious issues that need to be worked out. Again I love the tech that's why I bought it but anyone who grabs one needs to understand that risk

I prefer flip phones to foldable phones. The snap is magical

​@@Centuri0n2013Yeah, the fold4 had hinge issues which thankfully got completely overhauled with the fold5 which has a much better hinge mechanism.

I could see the outside display maybe... but not the inside display.

Was it them or Huawei who released the first folding phone?

Drop in the bucket for top 10 richest companies in the world

@@aliasgharkhoyee9501was neither. Was technically Royole

Agree on bravery, but not on quality. The first three Flip Zs were advanced prototypes with horrible screen quality. My Flip 3 gradually became corrupted with pixel errors and screen tearing. Everyone who had these issues should be qualified for warranty fix.

Meanwhile in the other tech world, Huge Props to Steam for making Steam Deck. Huge Props to Meta for Pursuing Standalone VR Headsets.

dead pixels in oneplus open- thanks for letting us know mkbhd, now I am not buying one!

@@DemonSlayer-vh8uy That's just his unit. Let's see others.

​@johantiefenbach5310 its hand picked for reviewers with dead pixel.....hmmmmm

@@Evergreen319 it happend when mkbhd had it, so its unfortunate.. you do have warranty though.

​@@Evergreen319it hasn't even been released yet this is entirely basically a incomplete phone ATM so I wouldn't take one dead pixel as something to completely disregard the phone

was suprised myself

Yeah I was really surprised

Really impressive for a phone mic

I mean, yeah prices are too damn high, even in regular phones market, for some reason phone companies believe these devices are a luxury. But for these, I don't know, I really don't feel confortable with moving parts in something like a phone, and the hinge would really drive me crazy, that, and the thickness foldable have when folded and feeling like two phones together.

yeah exactly, at the beginning of this video 0:25 I feel like Marques is a little out of touch with regular people. It's all because of the PRICE, folding phones are cool but comparing things...most probably don't want to spend that much money on a phone when they can get a non-foldable phone for less money. another example Apple Vision is cool but a Quest 3 would probably be sufficient for regular people at $499 instead of $3499

Once the tin can guys come up with a better string, I will upgrade from my lump of charcoal and blanket 😂😂😂

Tell me your poor calling $1000 a ton of money in today's economy lol

@@Nighthunt01 Yeah, I haven't bought a brand new phone in years. It's just been so much cheaper to by a refurbished phone 1-2 years after release. Though I loose those years in updates, I end up paying half the price for a flagship. As much as I want one of these fold phones, until they drop in price and the quality issues have been worked out, I can't justify them.

My opinion exactly... I wasn't fan of protection cases till I broke a few displays with falls... now for me it's mandatory

​@@gornash1234who would have thought that glass phones could break easily and should always be protected because they are already like $1500

I work in the construction industry and not having a phone case and screen protector is a non starter. Dust, drops and even just getting squished between my thigh and something super heavy that I’m lifting are all things that have broken phones in the past.

On my z fold 3, the cases were a mess. Some didn't even have the ports aligned correctly. I have a case mate on my pixel fold now and it's a night a day difference. The hinges are fully incased and it definitely offers more protection.

Wallet case! I'm not going to carry a wallet and a phone. For now, it's a deal breaker.

Yeah, that is my principal use case too. I'm sure there are other luxuries associated with a bigger screen, but none seem compelling compared to video.

So true

Hardly bothers me if at all when I use it. However, the pixel fold had a great response to that.

AND the resolution of both screens sucks compared to flagships

What about a flip?

Completely agree. Open is no more stupid than flip or fold.

agreed.

yeah i agree 100% "Open" is just a unique name in the foldable phones world

I think that's for Zack from JerryRig

Dude just needs a reason to criticize

how's the durability been so far?

return it and get one with no dead pixel if you got a lemon

He is paid to review and push this brand lol. Stop being in denial

It might be one of those cases where it only happened to his and none of the reviewer samples? Kinda like the screen protect crack on the flip 4?

It's not a common issue. I have had 3 Foldables: Flip 3, Fold 3, and Fold 4 and never had a single dead pixel. Hell my Fold 3 and 4 I used without the inside screen protector and still nevr had any screen issues. Besides, unlike the Samsung Fold, all these other Foldables are designed so you don't need to use the inside display unless you're going to power use. They made the outside display more common sized to use more, as opposed to Samsung and their horrible narrow display that only a small amount of people actually like.

Hopefully just an issue with his reviewer phone. If they've really done 1mil+ open/close durability tests, I would think they'd have caught this.

I am with you 100%. But, I'm in the generation old ~$300 range and have been very happy after being a flagship chaser. My last 6 phones have been Motorola.

I think major reason it doesn't sell is because of how bulky it is. And I have notice that generally people at large choose product which are the most convenient, Convenient in way that could be used by their parents- convenient. Which exactly opposite to the case of pixel phone which, I mean it has so many feature that normal person will never know this is also one of the major reason Apple does so great because they focus majorly on hardware change as that feature will be used by each person as they reduce the choice, so don't look around for the way and accept thing as it is this is why convenient feature in Tech product will be the key to grow the market share.

❤

Dude, the phone is not an "investment", it's a depreciating "asset". Investments are made with profit in mind, but phones only get cheaper and in 2-3 years the battery is out and you buy your next one. But I applaud you for understanding the cost and sticking with the reasonable models. Many of my friends can't grok it :)

@@freefaler "Investment" is often used colloquially as a expenditure of noteworthy value. If someone says "I'm going to invest in a nice set of cookware" they're not expecting a monetary return.

I'm still using the OP 7Pro right now!

OnePlus 7 pro is one of the best phones ever made

I'm thinking of, maybe, finally upgrading from my 7 Pro for this one

When you start using the larger screen, you start to realise how much more you can get done efficiently with the extra space. Like looking at maps without so much zooming in and out, multi-tasking when you have to copy-paste text, and watching detailed videos or video calls without squinting.

People said that about the iPhone hahaha

​@@aliasgharkhoyee9501I consume a lot of UKposts content and recently went from a Oneplus 7T Pro to a Zenfone 10, and I rarely miss the larger screen. I'd still love a more immersive, large screen, sure, but I love having a compact device overall.

​@@aliasgharkhoyee9501I don't think that's enough for the average person to get into folding phones, sure sounds cool and all but at this point just buy a tablet or something. Honestly I don't get folding phones or phones getting bigger at all, over 7 inches just sounds unnecessary to me. But thats just me, a lot of people want bigger screens on their devices (for some reason).

@@aliasgharkhoyee9501use cases that happen once a week at most.. productivity on a phone sounds so dumb to me. Especially if you can have an laptop and regular phone for the same money.

Exactly, spending thousands on a phone that can have it's screen damaged by my fingernails doesn't make sense at all.

I know right - cause I get lots of pebbles and dirt on my current phone and in my pockets... eh ?

Folding phones are fragile. Bet it cannot last 5 years like my 5T. The worst part, u sacrifice the specs, like the 🔋 battery which is a very important part of a phone.

its not durable....it shatters faster than my dreams....thats pretty fast believe me!!

Ya'll just need to have the bare minimum hygene sheesh. Like I don't want to know how filthy your headphones or keyboards are if dirt between the screens is a concern..

i worry that even before breaking, the hinge would just become looser. do you think that is also possible?

a year? more like 6 months.

What do yo mean by babying?

Screen protector for the inside screen. I'm on my second foldable, no problems. Screen protectors and a good case with hinge protection goes a long way. I'm a mechanic. I can destroy a phone at work, not being careful. So far, so good.

@@jfred5338 if there's no problems why are you at your 2nd foldable already

Unless they find a way to make real glass bend it's unlikely to ever happen. They only way I see they could make it more durable is the finest hinge jonction possible on a chassis with a dual glass covered displays. Technically it would fold but not really a folding phone in spirit and not as useful for many things (or at least too annoying to consider). This is why I don't think folding phone are going anywhere. They would need to be both way more durable and way cheaper to make them something more than an expensive gimmick. But when you look at it, considering the BOM of a folding phone ; it cannot be that much cheaper than a regular phone + small tablet combo : you can save on motherboard and some components but not that much because the constraints of a folding phone restricts your components selection to a certain level of performance to weight/size ratio. In the end even if brands lowered their margins on folding phone to make them competitive they would still land around the same price of a good phone + small tablet combo, so it doesn't make sense to buy them considering the durability tradeoff just for the big display convenience factor. In fact when you consider it, the only time a folding phone kinda make sense is a situation where you do not have a bag or something similar to carry bulkier items where a small tablet would fit just fine but where you still carry your phone on you (presumably almost only that). Considering of much extra bulk penalty (weight/thickness) folding phones have on top of phones that are already too big to be comfortably carried in many people's pockets its obvious it will stay forever a very niche thing for rich geeks or status conscious peoples that wanna show off their wealth with a phone. Unless Apple makes one, there all rationality goes out the windows but that pretty much tells you everything you need to know about folding phones... In reality a device that could be quite useful would be a mid size touch display with a slot that could accept a smartphone to extend its capabilities : this way you could remove the redundant parts of a dedicated tablet but still put money where it matters : mainly a better/bigger display, that would accept low latency pen input and a battery that would prevent drastically reducing the smartphone autonomy (potentially charging as well, depending on needs) ; you could also put better speakers and more ports for a more versatile and bigger, more expensive options. This way you would not have to pay for nonsense like cameras in tablets and it would solve data/software sync problems that multiples devices use create.

Still on my Note 3. No screen protector on either screen and still as good as new. I don't baby it either.

dead pixels in oneplus open- thanks for letting us know mkbhd, now I am not buying one!

@@DemonSlayer-vh8uystop spamming

@@DemonSlayer-vh8uy hahah funny man

It wouldn't be as cool because they would have to make so many compromises in order to get it down to that price

That's so unexpected lol, but good for them :)

They have the cash to buy it.

There goes your inheritance! You're now in line to get Nana's old folding phone! 🫨

Thats so true

I have been waiting for five Samsung generations, each one I think they'll make an affordable version, and they just don't. I don't think it will ever come to a regular price.

@@HandledToaster2 I honestly doubt the price will ever go down. If you think about it, it makes sense, you're basically buying 2 phones stacked on top of each other, so yeh, it's gonna be expensive.

Any damage on your phone? Looking at Linus' broken galaxy fold and many similar issues it's scary to jump on something like this OnePlus Open.

​@@denny8360to be fair that one is water damaged but coming from the last 5 or more years of waterproof phones is a concern now that people are used to it.

I've tried fold 4 for some time...and sold it. Good phone but a big minus it's a weak battery life (comparing with iphone 13/14PM). Also for me as a motorcyclist a problem to use fold4 with phone holders on a motorcycle))

Yeah same here pretty much, been rocking the fold3 since it came out, I can't see myself going back to a normal phone, it's just too limiting.

​@@denny8360Linus's broke because it dropped into a pool. Pretty sure almost any phone would break.

Apple will never release a folding phone. Mark my words. Apple will *never* release one.

They might afterall they are copycats

Apple will only add features to their phones that have been tried and tested extensively by other brands in the market. That's one of the reasons people see apple as so reliable, because they never take any risks with new stuff. So when foldables become more mainstream, cheaper and most people have them that will be when apple will make one

@@_rpeezy_6419okay, i’m pretty positive they are

but maybe the dead pixels happen because the crease is soo "tight"/perfect.

My Fold Z4 lasted 6 months before dead pixels appeared in the crease.

@@juanma4777how annoying are the dead pixels?

Live for today

​@@dzg3313in my opinion a lot annoying, especially on 1800 bucks device.

@@dzg3313 You pay 1600 bucks for it... it is pretty annoying, you want your phone to be perfectly fine. Also the repair costs of its... Its too expensive

Yeah same thing. Samsung folds are unusable closed for almost anybody. Pixel Fold format is much better, cant wait for their 3-rd generation.

The answer to that is to get yourself insurance for the phone, at this price point.

That is why I’m thinking twice to buy it, I don’t know how good is one plus warranty :/

As someone who just got their phone back. They replaced my inner screen and returned it since it's under the 1 year manufacturer warranty. I dropped a game controller on mine and it jacked it up. They replaced it and sent it back to me. Didn't charge me a dime.

After chasing the greatest thing for the early years of Android, I've learned that all I need is a good camera, email, browser and texting. Pixel A series is the only thing I consider these days. Fun to watch the bleeding tech though.

lets start buying them in 2028. as of now its a waste of money....flip prices might come down, but fold prices will never come down...but by that time s2X ultra would be nearby 1700 dollars so you wouldn't mind buying a fold instead....

I mean, not really. The fold 4 still looks brand new.

don't make foldable phones,

I had the Flip 3, Fold 3, and Fold 4 and never had any dead pixels. the only thing I had was the inner display screen protector lifted up and I replaced it myself, but yeh never had any issues with them. The reason I got rid of the Folds is cause that outside narror display annoyed tf out of me. I'm on a Flip 5 now and absolutely am enjoying it.

​@@hobbitpsi I doesn't happen with every single phone, but it happens A LOT with the flexible OLED panels. Right back to the very first, again, the Flexpai, to the latest, as showcased by Marques here. The worst part is you cant do a shit to avoid it. I your unit has the issue, it will surface no matter how you use the phone or how much you protect it. In fact, I only bought the Flexpai because it was weird back in the day and never used it in my daily life (usability is just horrible) and still got a gigantic circle of dim (not 100% dead) pixels in the hinge. The Fold 3 only got a semi-circle in the hinge border, but still got it. It's not back luck, trust me, it just happens with most foldable phones.

@@_gelon I mean.. like I said, I never got anything wrong with any of my folds or flips, so sounds more like how one handles them or what gets into their phone to cause it.

Good thing were on the fold 5 and tech has progressed in two years lol.

And this is true for most people, which is why foldable haven't caught on. People see it as an unuseful novelty. They can't get good cases for them, they'll break with excessive use over time -- and most people keep their phones for 3-4 years. It needs proper foldable glass, proper bendable hardware all around -- no hinge -- and a build that allows for an easy use of a case. And it will require a technology that is stable. Right now, foldable are changing too rapidly, if you buy one it's outdated in a year. I don't buy MK's "this is future proof" line.

you cant bend glass...

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Sooner or later that phone will crack in the middle. I think they'd be better if the screen was actually two separate screens.

You can absolutely bend many kinds of glass, as long as it's thin enough and you don't crease it or exceed its elastic limit.@@Renovatio2142

I felt the same way but my fold 3 has been pretty much the most durable phone I had

Yes, all these foldables are high-end. We need someone to make a budget foldable with shitty cameras, performance, and build quality. Some people don't care, but many care about the price. How low can the price be pushed? Is it possible to build one that would cost, say, $300? It could increase adoption and spark more competition.

You mean pretty affoldable?

Cheapest I could find is Honor Magic V2 for about $958 in the US in Q1 next year. Apparently doesn't work with google services though. Its specs are pretty good.

Stop being poor then

the issue is the dual screens, especially nowadays they're all 1440p+ resolution oled 10-120hz those panels get expensive, let alone the hardware for folding. I'd be surprised if even the cheapest decent folding phone would be under $500.

dead pixels in oneplus open- thanks for letting us know mkbhd, now I am not buying one!

dead pixels in oneplus open- thanks for letting us know mkbhd, now I am not buying one!

dead pixels in oneplus open- thanks for letting us know mkbhd, now I am not buying one!

​@@DemonSlayer-vh8uyok, samsung shill, you made your point

@@DemonSlayer-vh8uyI have reported you for spam since you spammed this message

Are you joking? He uploads really slow in comparison to most UKposts channels

How about focusing on the video and not the man smh

Everybody releases their flagship videos at the same time... Bruh

He literally Said he had it for 3 weeks

Wdym too quick? He gets review units..

Dont bro, wait cause foldable doesnt last. 😢😢 Mine didnt even last 1 year 2 months and the crease for the phone is completely pitch black. I can't even use it. It cost about 500😢 to fix it. I bought the Samsung Galaxy ZFOLD3

It sounded bad though

​@@uk7866compare to others phones.

​@@uk7866you must be hearing something else then

Partly because if Apple were to launch this product, they would do it better

I don’t want to leave the Apple ecosystem. But I also wouldn’t want a folding phone from Apple

@@remulsive9558 Your probably right, might be why they’re holding back.

@@thatoneguy1821 it’ll probably cost like $2,500 anyway

Apple would destroy this if they create their own one .. probly might happen the next 2 years maybe

Absolutely, but I'd hope it was just a flaw in his testing unit especially since they've done such heavy durability testing. And I would think it would be warrantied.

can you give me a timestamp on the dead Pixel stuff?

Yeap, agreed. I was about to visit oneplus's website to check the price myself, but that pixel made me to think once again. After some googling it turns out that dead-pixel thing is very common for these phones. Hope it will be fixed soon.

I agree, I live in Italy and this year I've seen at least a couple people with a Z flip. And I live in a small city too, so I imagine it's even more common in the bigger cities

flips are cool as heck. folds don't have any iPhone users considering switching.

​@@kevcubeI switched from iPhone to fold. Best decision ever

Ipad is dead as a product, because it's useless despite the fact that most youtuber tries to promote it as best table ( which is completely not true) all ipad ends up collecting dusts

no. CARRYING a tablet is unreasonable 90% of the time. You have tv/monitor at home so what's the point of tablet. Basically the niche case where you'd need a tablet is way lower. The real reason why kids love tablets more than adults is cuz for them that screen is huge (small body). Us adults don't see it that 'big'. If we'd get glass on foldables and no more "dead pixels" BS; And the price would be around $1k-1.2k. I'd be down getting one. Cuz it would be using a phone but having a bigger screen when I actually want to watch videos on phone.

I don’t know, for me tablet was always a tablet and phone was a phone. In a sense that I never watched a movie on a phone and most content I also watch on iPad, especially musical videos, if I’m at home of course. For these things I always used a tablet. The same goes for mobile games. I don’t even using a PC now.

iPads aren't dead hommie. Hot takes aside tablets are perfect for school not taking and light workloads for businesses. Tablets have a specific function, but most people don't use them for that and just buy them because of "new shiny". @@MrPoliarinis

Phone isn't a replacement for iPad. Sorry, I rather lay in bed or sofa watching a 10 or 12" iPad than a phone, because flip or not the phone is just too small to be optimal for watching high quality videos. The only down side is really just that it won't fit in a pocket.

I recommend you do it

If you love money and practicality please don’t…you will regret it

If there was an Apple Pencil type stylus for a hotdog style folding phone, I’d be seriously tempted. And I’m very cynical about foldables. Even then I’d have a really hard time getting past my concerns about durability.

​@banditnosey Ive have them the last several years. Dropped mine 4x today. It's fine.

@@cheeeeezewizzz I know some people have good luck with them, but I’ve been privy to enough total screen meltdowns of recent folding phones to be very wary. :( They’ve come super far in terms of durability and refinement since they first showed up, of course, but when I buy a phone I want to keep it for several years, and I still don’t feel at all confident that I would get that lifespan out of a folding phone.

The Samsung Fold line-up supports the S-Pen just so ya know.

Also on top of that phone needs to be able to be used as pc something similar to samsung dex but only cable should be sufficent like two ports one fkr charging another for adapter to hdmi to plug in monitor or tv. That would replace all of devices i own into one. Well except software is issue since for 3d printing lychee slicer isnt android or apple released

@@awsomef2004 let me clear out what I mean, if given a choice as an artist to draw using a tab...would you go with iPad or Samsung fold series? I'm pretty sure majority would choose iPad. What I mean is that these foldable phones need to up their game so then can become a potential option...cuz they cost a lot.

@rsr_10 tbh unless we have rollables, I don't see anyone choosing a foldable first because the screen can't fold out large enough

I don't see any Foldable ads for elders but it should be a big market.

@@innnffxxi they really need to release low spec affordable models, for older and more minimalist of users.

Same I consume alot of media so having a phone that fills in the tablet gap is amazing

90s Bollywood?

The current foldable is a bit too big for me, i wish for Oppo Find foldable (not clamshell) size

​@@godji1888bruh