Paying for Cloud Storage is Stupid
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:57 CM3588 NAS Kit Introduction
3:39 SSD Options
5:19 Why Bother with a NAS?
6:06 OpenMediaVault Setup
6:59 Speed Test
7:40 Backup Phone Data
8:29 Extra Tricks for the CM3588
9:10 Video Editing Test
9:53 Conclusion
11:41 Outro
@juliengoltzman8026 Місяць тому
As a noob when it comes to networking/server/ all this kind of stuff. Feel like we could use a total "switch your life to local" video showing how to set up a local video streaming library and storage system to get rid of subscriptions
@randombanter7553 Місяць тому
Same
@j3sion Місяць тому
Can't wait 😊
@williambrasky3891 Місяць тому
Excellent idea.
@fashionablefrog5813 Місяць тому
bump
@dimmahund Місяць тому
Props for the idea
@TheMorrowgamer Місяць тому
I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the best parts... The Wiki page for the CM3588 has PCB CAD files, including PCB layout, and a STEP file for the board which would make printing a case for this thing a breeze!
@HairyStuntWaffle Місяць тому
I would be AMAZED if there was not a dozen already out there. it looks iro mini ITX?
@TurinAlexander Місяць тому
Is that really the best part? I know all the 3D printing people out there will love it, but despite what those people think, 3D printing is incredibly niche. Even for people that watch this sort of content.
@TheMorrowgamer Місяць тому
@@TurinAlexander Most people who would be buying this thing probably are enthusiasts, and either have or have access to a printer.
@LoFiAxolotl Місяць тому
@@TurinAlexander most public libraries these days have 3d printers that you can use, not the most convenient way.... but if you don't have a printer and want something printed... it's usually free or has a very very small fee
@astronemir Місяць тому
@@TurinAlexander because it exists that means you can order a printed case.
@taquocviet 23 дні тому
Producer: how many sponsors do you want in the video? Linus: Yes.
@Dailydose1011 21 день тому
Best comment fr😂
@EpikGamerYT 19 днів тому
All LTT is these days is a 50% video and 50% sales pitches... I can watch normal TV if i want to see this many ads thanks...
@joesalz9963 18 днів тому
That's why I stopped watching his videos. Like just one long ad masked as a technical how-to video. Only reason I stumbled upon this is because I was looking for a cheap, small NAS that wasn't a raspberry pi since the pi5 isn't that cheap anymore. There is also click bait/misleading. The description say "This tiny computer is so small it can fit in your pocket and have over 30TB of SSD Storage. For under $100 you can have a powerful ARM based board to call youre own!" then in the video they end up with 11TB and says it cost $165 just for one of NVMe drives alone! LMAO
@mykeride 18 днів тому
@@joesalz9963 Heh, and today, 2 weeks after it posted, following the link in the description for the NVME drives takes me to an Amazon page selling them for $226 each. So while the end of the video shows this rig as outfitted as costing $825, if you buy everything using LTT's very links today, it will cost $1,093 (the 16GB RAM option on FriendlyElec went up as well, and LTT didn't include the cost for a power supply).
@EpikGamerYT 17 днів тому
@@joesalz9963 100% agree man, this is the same reason i found the video and was so disappointed when i came back after not watching for a year ish... it has gotten even worse over time!
@DrMarcArnoldBach 29 днів тому
I am working in IT and run my own server downstairs. I stopped using my server as a cloud storage for mobile sync because having such a service exposed to the internet comes with responsibility. Suddenly I have to read security notes and perform patches over night. regularly the cloud suite changed major components in the software architecture and upgrade is a challenge and you study docu and blogposts. I am back to USB cable and Netdrive on a PC
@epsig1507 9 днів тому
have you considered putting your home server behind a VPN? You can still access it through the internet but it is not exposed (only the VPN port).
@frankfrei6848 День тому
Yes, indeed, excellent point. Plus the mobile apps to do the sync are nowhere as reliable as the built-in ones. I used exactly the app they are showing in the first few seconds of this video and it was the best one I tried but still would miss synchronizing stuff automatically sometimes.
@frankfrei6848 День тому
@@epsig1507 This is an option but you then have to keep the VPN connection open at all times or manage VPN and syncing manually which is a pain.
@camilostrange737 13 годин тому
Same. I was running all kind of services, like a FOSS slack and a FOSS dropbox, and the security considerations only were insane. At some point it was cost effective to just pay the yearly subscription.
@moxieman2452 Місяць тому
I appreciate the BMW iDrive joke
@john-wx7gr Місяць тому
same dude
@barongogenzoler4300 Місяць тому
Dunno how about Americans, but in EU it's not a joke actually.
@Suchtzocker Місяць тому
@@barongogenzoler4300 its a sarcastic joke, in EU also ... BMW is expensive all around the world ... thats what they where joking over ...
@HaraldBergTechTv Місяць тому
Yes they are expensive to buy and expensive to maintain 😢 I know since I drive one
@barongogenzoler4300 Місяць тому
@@Suchtzocker, in the US 330i is less than the average annual take-home. In the EU it's nominally far more expensive and take-home is much lover. It means the average postgrad with few years of experience can't afford a lease. PPP in reality.
@WilliamHaisch Місяць тому
I see what Elijah is doing… by subconsciously demonstrating that he can “wear many different hats” he is maneuvering himself into a generous raise because he literally “wears many different hats”! We can all learn some next level shizz from the 4D chess master, Elijah! 😂
@bahamut8591 Місяць тому
he really should just wear the helmet
@MarkReddington Місяць тому
this has gotta be part of their april fools video. they've been hiding things in their recent videos...
@GizmoFromPizmo Місяць тому
Oh, I thought he was signalling that he's transitioning.
@thejunkman Місяць тому
That was a hell of a make a wish request.
@jayo8621 Місяць тому
ok "William" ... Nice fake name Elijah.. maybe you can make a video on how to make fake youtube hbots that hype you up to get raises at work.. that would be useful
@thepokerus4184 16 днів тому
I am a Networking Desktop engineer, for context: Great video! very useful and practical, but for certain clientele. This is great for people who need massive storage, this will save so much $$$. However, for the average user family who only needs to back up pictures, 1tb for 6 people at $99yr, with office 365 included, hard to beat. Which is why even though I have NAS at home, its only private, not public, not worth it yet. Maybe in the future. This set up isn't for the average user but still amazing to see how compatible it is with many third party apps and powerful the device is while being very affordable.
@mwitters1 Місяць тому
THIS is the kind of video presentation that I started watching LTT for. GREAT video. You don't have to get rid of the humor but give me the information in a concise manner. Best video from yall in a long time.
@h4gfish 13 днів тому
I assumed the video was a paid spot - they just breathlessly promote the board, and suggest you entrust all your data to an abandoned project the found on someone's Google drive. It's an interesting device, but when you're reaching for a backup, that thing has to work. When you're explaining to your spouse that the baby photos are all gone, "b-but we saved nearly $300" isn't going to help you.
@kayaguvendi 15 годин тому
@@h4gfish Then get an offsite backup too. It can even be a good friend's house in the same city, really. The cloud storage prices are insane.
@benjaminschutz727 Місяць тому
The brilliance of sponsoring server space when talking about how to run your own cloud server
@BillAnt Місяць тому
While it's cool, it doesn't sync everything like iCloud does, including contacts, messages, settings and apps/data. I'm not an iPhone guy, but I have to give Apple credit for their truly 100% backups, no Android does a 100% backup. The only other way to do it is pulling a manual backup locally via iTunes.
@focusandroid2783 Місяць тому
Everything you mentioned can be backed up on modern Android phones. Its just that some apps choose to opt-out of full backup. And not all settings can be transferred between different android operating systems.
@bubbledoubletrouble Місяць тому
@@BillAnt The average person's storage usage is mostly media. With that out of the picture, the 50 GB 99¢/mo tier or maybe even the 5 GB free tier become significantly more workable.
@forresthopkinsa Місяць тому
You still need an off-site backup
@c1hd746 Місяць тому
Who says you have to stop using icloud
@HeikoStubner_x Місяць тому
With me maintaining support for Rockchip SoCs in the mainline Linux Kernel for a bit over 10 years now, it's really nice to see a Rockchip SoC in the "mainstream" media ;-)
@HagobSaldadianSmeik Місяць тому
Thank you for your service.
@FAKEAXIS Місяць тому
Doing gods work sir, having alternatives to Broadcom raspberry pi’s have been a god send for me
@nyanmisaka Місяць тому
Thank you for your persistence. The RK3588 is definitely a game changer in the Arm based SBC world after the aging RK3399, considering that the broadcom chip on RPi5 is standing still.
@foxxyytofficial Місяць тому
Wish more people helped with the Orange Pi, they use both Rockchip and Allwinner, also good options for a possible NAS
@SambitBiswas Місяць тому
Thank u m8!
@maryethu Місяць тому
I really liked the intro! It was a bit confusing because it wasn't clear what the relationship was between a homemade NAS and phone snatchers until Linus brought it back up it part way through the video, but very inventive! Keep up the good work, Elijah.
@freddymendoza4802 19 днів тому
Phone smashers* not snatchers. Given the video is for cloud backup and they were “smashing their phones” I thought it was pretty obvious?
@vmdcortes 29 днів тому
This is awesome!! I'd love to see another video with an HDD configuration with a custom 3D printed build ❤ and more benchmarks 🎉
@GoPotato69 Місяць тому
ngl this is one of the best ltt videos this year, short, to the point, funny bits, and affordable tech/solutions
@fuelvolts Місяць тому
“Affordable” in that the 4TB drives are $180 each! This thing as configured by Linus is nearly $1000. I realize you can use 2TB drives but it would still be about $600 that way. That’s a lot of hassle and nearly 5 years of cloud storage.
@GoPotato69 Місяць тому
@@fuelvolts i mean im sure in the future there prob will be sata versions of this or even buy some cheap adapters, and even so u can get some cheap m2 ssd's now, ofc prices have been going back up but u can def get some deals. Ofc if ur going budget u could just plug a USB external hard drive into your router or get a bunch of refurb hard drives but the software pointed out for mobile is def a new addition to my life
@LinusTechTips Місяць тому
You could also use cheap m.2 to sata adapters and not use SSDs at all.
@ar02xd Місяць тому
@@fuelvolts1. 16TB cloud storage cost 6usd/TB (Backblaze B2), making it 1000 bucks a year. Apple iCloud cost 60usd x12 = 700usd a year. 2. All your data is being actively scanned and removed on DCMA request, should you upload licensed media such as movies, songs and try to share them to other people. 3. If they were to loose your data (happened with google before), they hold 0 liability. 0 responsibility. It’s written in the the small text when you sign up for the service… Sure, if you only need 2TB, then a iCloud for 5usd/month is totally fine. But a 2TB SSD can be bought new for 60usd as well…
@Jonn0_ Місяць тому
@@fuelvolts that price is for fast storage, as mentioned in the video, just run 3.5" drives and pay less then 1/4 of the price. pretty sure you can get 12TB drives for under 200. for NVME storage, 180 for 4TB IS affordable. even at these slower speeds (compared to gen 4/5 etc) youve still got the convenience of 1. less likely for a physical failure (in terms of the HDD dying etc) and 2. way smaller / quieter. a couple 3.5" drives will be bigger than the entire PCB. I've got my old PC converted to a NAS, also using openmedia, and it works great
@TheJCEguy Місяць тому
Elijah chaning hats every frame was comedy gold! 😆
@1yugiohtrader Місяць тому
I suspect he need to wear all those hats in order to claim them as a tax write off
@that_jason_black Місяць тому
He's that hat guy now. lol
@SpaceJazz3K Місяць тому
@@1yugiohtraderso Elijah goes by them eh?
@specodhec341 Місяць тому
Just a burning memory
@KibitoAkuya Місяць тому
The typo made me imagine him with a fedora schizoposting on a chan board idk why
@jessieray6129 Місяць тому
This may actually be one of the coolest and most affordable things I have seen in a while. I have been needing a NAS recently but has hesitant to drop several hundred dollars on a DISKLESS synology nas. For someone like me who only needs a small NAS for my wife and I, and maybe down the road a second one at my parent's house for a backup, this thing looks perfect.
@polarpenguin3 Місяць тому
I have a synology NAS and I'll tell you the software and simplicity is what makes them what they are.
@jessieray6129 Місяць тому
@@polarpenguin3 I work as a sysadmin and we use them at work, so I'm not denying that. I just don't need all of the features at home and in today's economy every dollar counts
@Cyber_Homestead 24 дні тому
I bought a Synology NAS last year and am surprised how dated the apps feel. NFS was also a pain to set up, but I think I finally got it as of a few minutes ago. The video surveillance suite apparently does not work fully if you're using a browser in Linux. There are lots of quirks that I honestly wasn't expecting.
@jessieray6129 24 дні тому
@@Cyber_Homestead Yeah, if you aren't doing basic smb sharing, some of the features are a bit clunky from my experience at work.
@svr5423 18 днів тому
I always used old PCs as NAS. Later I custom built them. Now looking into synology for the next one. First one was an 80486SX with 25Mhz and Samba. Quite slow, but it worked.
@3Toy 20 днів тому
Detailed tutorials on how to set up such systems will be very appreciated !
@Schatten.mensch Місяць тому
Looks like you murdered the elec website ^^
@brainwater Місяць тому
They got slashdotted
@ThunderClapLP Місяць тому
jup, still down
@rohscx Місяць тому
Yep
@hocek11 Місяць тому
Oh maaaan...
@ranjitthind440 Місяць тому
Still down😅
@r0galik Місяць тому
Great video, finally a large channel showing people that a NAS is not some black box with black magic inside, but something quite simple. And that currently ARM boards can be used for it pretty comfortably. I've been running a NAS powered by a raspberry pi 4 for over 2 years and it never failed (knock knock)
@CJonestheSteam72 Місяць тому
I am not sure why I would want the featured device over a Raspberry pi tbh especially at the spec they went for
@Ornithopter470 Місяць тому
@@CJonestheSteam72 the top end model is significantly more performant than a pi 5, and for not much more money. It's also got much, much better I/O.
@r0galik Місяць тому
@@CJonestheSteam72 raspberry pis are a bit expensive, underpowered and have very little IO
@ParkerRobertsFilms Місяць тому
(who's there?)
@cronchcrunch Місяць тому
@@r0galikknock knock
@VampyrumFerox 26 днів тому
so you started off saying it was $95, but then your setup was over $1500.
@MrPgunna 18 днів тому
"We didn't want to buy the cheapest storage option, so we purchased 4 4TB NVME drives at $160 each." OK... Cool....
@Awytoo 17 днів тому
They got ya! 😂 Clickbait style
@MyAdonisDNA 17 днів тому
Yeah as soon as I saw this video I thought it was stupid. Even with one 2 tb m.2 drive it'd be about 200 dollars total so you're looking at 2 years as a break even. Plus you are giving up the biggest benifets of cloud storage by hosting yourself. Clloud storage will be off-site and have some redundancy.
@benwilliams7382 16 днів тому
I think that's a little harsh considering. I agree that some of the benefits of cloud storage are not present, but I think the comparison of Nas to Nas between "all-in-one" enclosures Vs this do it yourself method yields some cost reductions. You definitely get some redundancy using raid, and you don't have to go nvme or a full 4*4tb system, you can scale to meet your needs
@MatzWerk 15 днів тому
Think at least just a little bit! The Hardware is great, and for the Video sake and clicks they added some m.2s so what? Take a freaking m.2 to sata adapter and put your old hraddrives on it. Are you all that uninspired to pick your own fraking conclusion out of the video?
@joho0 Місяць тому
SSD-based NAS solutions have unique constraints in regard to overprovisioning and wear-leveling. Enterprise SAS spinny disks are still used in many corporate NAS solutions for this reason.
@kot98br 15 днів тому
is there any research regard to this?
@joho0 15 днів тому
@@kot98br Research is hard to come by, and youtube doesn't allow links in comments, but there are some well-informed articles out there that discuss the pros and cons. The key takeaway is that SSDs have a limited duty-cycle and may not be the best option for write-intensive applications.
@tazanteflight8670 2 дні тому
For what reason...?
@stijncelerier9563 Місяць тому
When every tech youtuber is launching Ugreen nas videos. Ltt does this, love it.
@artemisfowl127 29 днів тому
Literally was contemplating buying ugreen's $500 nvme device, but not anymore thankyou linus. But sadly the built in storage options are out of stock so I'll be waiting to buy then.
@ClintonHuynh 28 днів тому
@@artemisfowl127Depends, UGreen's solution is out of box ready that I would recommend someone's mom to get if they need one in the house. LTT's solution is a tinkerer's solution where it doesn't even come in a box to house the chip in.
@faizanbaber 23 дні тому
Exactly
@littlebit670 22 дні тому
If you don’t want the DIY then the UGreen NASync (or even another solution like the Synology DiskStation) would work. If you’re ok with the DIY and the cost of all-flash, then the FriendlyElec is for you.
@LittIegator Місяць тому
It would be interesting to see a video on tips for setting up a 3-2-1 backup solution. If this video covers my NAS, what do I build for on-site backup? What do I build for off-site backup? Any tips for places to put off-site backup other than "parents' house" or "friend's house?"
@nephatrine Місяць тому
Yeah this is the issue. I back up my local backups to google cloud just because I don't have my own "offsite" location I can stand up another storage server. Maybe a video on colocation services and things like that would be handy.
@tonTeufel Місяць тому
It's not automatic, but your office works. Have an encrypted external SSD that you load your backup on once a month and store it in your locker/ locked desk drawer at work.
@mateuszzimon8216 Місяць тому
@@nephatrine yes, I also use Google but I package in some compression packages with encryption.
@CanIHasThisName Місяць тому
I don't know if a video could be useful, because it's more of a debate rather than a simple topic they could cover. How much data are you backing up? Do you need all of it backed up? Do you REALLY need all of it backed up? What is available to you? What's your threshold for maximum inconvenience? Some people don't want to hear it, but there's nothing wrong with using cloud for off-site storage, as long as the limitations aren't too limiting for your use case. For use-cases like photos, having them in your phone, backing up to cloud and periodically storing them on your PC fulfills 3-2-1, with the added advantage that you're always carrying one of the devices with you, and the off-site storage can be accessed wherever you can get an internet connection. And with photos, it's unlikely you will need more than one of the cheap basic tiers which cost something like 1-5$ a month.
@Leo9ine Місяць тому
For cold archives - Encrypt and compress, dump it to Backblaze, they'll mail you a hard drive. For rolling backups... I haven't figured that out yet :/ But I think NextCloud may be the solution.
@RottweilerPerformance 4 дні тому
We saved $14 doing this trick. Thank you! That being said we spent $783 of our own time sourcing the parts, learning how to do it and setting it all up...
@Shanemvm 16 днів тому
This is perfect. Been looking for a cheap yet effective video editing server for a while but didn't want to spend hundreds on a Synology NAS or some other home NAS. With the SATA expansions I could also just as easily use more high end SATA SSDs in the long run too for expandability.
@smadayeoj Місяць тому
4:00 building a 20-HD NAS sounds like a video idea of its own.
@gregdaweson4657 Місяць тому
They already did it.
@marcelovictor3031 10 днів тому
@@gregdaweson4657 where´s the link?
@nolanhaines2261 Місяць тому
First tech upgrade, then home improvement for Linus, and finally NAS setups? You could say Elijah is a.... many of many hats .... in this video
@Gorillaeatz 26 днів тому
Great work. Technology focused while honing in on cost-effectiveness. Nice change of pace for you guys.
@Suzuki_Hiakura 29 днів тому
As someone who has lost a ton of data from Cloud service providers, and after they are constantly finding new ways to mess with the customers, this is a game changer; So long as I can manage the security, and not have to risk it leaking or being stolen by some 3rd party or the company I am hosting too, then I will consider that a win.
@_LegoBricked_ Місяць тому
7:38 Linus must be proud of Elijah💪
@lifeinhd4053 Місяць тому
The problem, as briefly mentioned in the video, is the 3-2-1 rule, which stipulates that one copy of your data must be kept offsite. Cloud storage solves this, whereas your own NAS (kept at home) does not. I suppose you could keep it at a friend's house, but then you'd also have to ask them to poke holes in their firewall which they may be unwilling (or unable) to do. There are also the value-adds for "official" cloud services, such as easy document sharing with others, full device backup, iCloud Relay, Hide My Email, and again, not having to poke holes in your firewall to access your data outside your network. I can see the value of a home NAS if you just have several TB of ancient photos and videos you want to offload from your device, but even then you should still pay for some form of cold/archival storage offsite to satisfy the 3-2-1. Personally, I pay $3/mo for 200gb of iCloud storage, and IMO it's money very well spent.
@meateaw Місяць тому
You dont need to poke holes through their firewall, you can poke holes through your own firewall, and configure your remotely hosted NAS to VPN **to you** connecting your nas to your network as if it were right next to you.
@pantoqwerty Місяць тому
You also have the “how do I sync with the NAS when away from my network” issue. Wait until you’re back isn’t great and doesn’t compare to the cloud. Poke holes in the firewall is asking for trouble, and use a VPN can be beset by issues - one of which is patchy connectivity and the other is much reduced battery life. I know because I’ve tried.
@fullstack_journey Місяць тому
Tailscale, Cloudflare Tunnels, etc solve these problems.
@igotnoname4557 Місяць тому
@@pantoqwerty Nonsense. I'm a web dev who works from home. I have huge blocks of open IPs on my firewall and anywhere from zero to several hundred people connected at once. I just have a standard home Internet plan with my ISP. My services run on a standard PC that's nearly a decade old, now (i7). I've been working like this for decades. I honestly don't even know what you're talking about. You clearly have other issues. As a web dev, I'm also renting plenty of rack space but certain tasks just make a LOT more sense to host yourself (mostly, high CPU\low bandwidth stuff).
@pantoqwerty Місяць тому
@@igotnoname4557 So you have several hundred people connected on your firewall at a time? Hardly a run of the mill appliance on a bog standard connection then else they’d be seriously contended. That you don’t know what i’m talking about is neither here nor there. VPN connections drain phone batteries. Fact. When your phone is locked it won’t generally keep the connection active and will activate it when you unlock it - you’ll see the VPN indicator go on and off. That’s an extra delay and inconvenience as you wait for it to reconnect. Native cloud services to a phone will work in the background. I host plenty of services but I refuse to expose them externally and VPN connectivity to them is a pain in the arse for the given reasons.
@technowey 6 днів тому
I was happy to see Linus mention the 321 rule and offsite backup. The solution in this video is good for my phone data. I want my really important data backed up both locally and offsite, in case my house burns down.
@iviaverick52 Місяць тому
Been trying to figure out what NAS I want to build for my Plex server. This is actually an awesome idea for a great price!
@mikehartdesign Місяць тому
'no dad, my generation cant afford BMW's' watching LS lip sync will never get old
@Zyo117 Місяць тому
Omg, didn't see it the first time 😂
@seanlacroix Місяць тому
It's dumb because Jake has a couple of BMW's
@HumbertoHernandez Місяць тому
I thought he said "my generation can't afford be all Ws (winners)" This makes more sense I guess haha.
@servissop151 Місяць тому
@@seanlacroix The one I know of (M5 E60) is going on 20 years old at this point, and he's a car guy, so he's willing to spend a higher percentage on his income on cars, which most people don't want to
@Xenoray1 Місяць тому
@@servissop151funny enough my dad just bought a e60 (not m5) for under 3k with gas mod ^^
@ashes7194 Місяць тому
You HAVE to do a full runtime tutorial on this!! I haven't got this invested in a tech piece for such a long time
@doogie812 Місяць тому
How did you know I was looking to set up a NAS Plex server running under Ubuntu? Your solution is quiet too. Your timing is impeccable. Thanks!
@jameslewis2635 Місяць тому
Nice. This CM3588 NAS board is just the kind of thing I have been wanting for a network drive. Hopefully you can purchase a case for it as I don't have a 3D printer. It would be nice if there was a higher end version that allows 4 PCIE lanes for each drive though.
@GeneralJarrett1997 24 дні тому
There are services that you can pay to have them 3D print a thing and ship it for you
@concinnus 24 дні тому
As they said, more lanes would be pointless as long as the uplink is 2.5GbE. And if they upgraded the uplink and thus wanted to upgrade the drive lanes, they'd probably need a better CPU to get more lanes. And that better CPU might not even be compatible with the carriercompute module interface. You see the problem.
@chiyapet Місяць тому
And... you blew up their site.
@MrakCZ Місяць тому
DDoS from Linus watchers.
@zargle5924 Місяць тому
I NEED IT!!!
@Sol4rOnYt Місяць тому
yep
@brandonmcclellan5721 Місяць тому
Omg, I can’t get onto their site!
@JayVal90 Місяць тому
There’s a big opening here
@LKN117 Місяць тому
These are my favorite type of tech video. Showing off a practical application of niche hardware that I never would have known about otherwise. I genuinely think I'm going to order one and copy this setup.
@robertwilsoniii2048 27 днів тому
There's a subtle difference though, you're reaponsible for your own data now. You store on fhe cloud and it's their problem, ans they'll damn sure use redundancy to have several bavkups ready in cases of disasters. If you pay for redundancy thw cloud storags is a decent option, not for 2tb, but for 250gb it's fine. Probably best to diversify storage and backups to tolerate risks and hardware failures and balance costs.
@halomika4973 27 днів тому
@@robertwilsoniii2048 I dunno abt you, but I prefer taking responsibility over my own data as compared to paying boatloads of money.
@m33r61 26 днів тому
@@halomika4973and also, even if the cloud provider some how loses your data, theyll just get slap on the wrist and youll get 10 bucks in a class action
@johndurrett3573 26 днів тому
@@robertwilsoniii2048 Double your investment and have two NAS servers - place them in different rooms under different breakers. Make one primary and backing up to secondary. Your PERSONAL data is not in the hands of a 3rd party which shifts is privacy and protection policy every 3 months. Major Corps are going to run you thru multiple ai phone menus's that will hide putting you in touch with a LIVE person. So they can have you running in circles for months or years trying to get your data back. Just take responsibility for your own Data.
@JQ_Unity 25 днів тому
@@robertwilsoniii2048just set it up in RAID. Double or triple redundancy based on the drives used.
@fiffy6572 28 днів тому
imagine a variant of this with open schematics so people can build custom accessories for it like the framework's laptops a 3d printed case or addons for expansions would be so cool
@clerian 14 днів тому
pCloud offers 10TB of cloud storage with a one time lifetime subscription for around $1100, which is honestly pretty competitive with this offering, although likely not as fast as when you're on LAN. Not saying it's a replacement for a NAS, but it could be an "affordable" option (after 2 years given current cloud storage costs) for your offsite storage option.
@jasonstewart58 Місяць тому
Best intro ever. Please do more like intros like this. The only problem I'm having with my NAS is that my work blocks remote access to my NAS at home from the office. Google and Microsoft cloud storages aren't blocked.
@Eli-zb2yj Місяць тому
But what about their sponsor ?
@St0rMsk Місяць тому
Agree, Intro was bitchin or what ever young people say these days
@hoofhearted4 Місяць тому
thats just bad practice on your business though tbh. most companies block Google and One Drive that isnt related to them.
@Jesus-father Місяць тому
just create a reverse proxy and voila
@slaterehm8448 Місяць тому
Look into Noip and a home router with a vpn. You can use this to tunnel back into your network without port forwarding.
@stevenjames7082 Місяць тому
That Intro !!!! The hat swaps The BMW joke . Top tier
@asidsgreed5911 26 днів тому
Essentially, you can connect a VPN to your home network even without a static IP address, and then use free programs that support SMB or other protocols to access your data inside that NAS, effectively maximizing your privacy.
@nregames8447 19 днів тому
You can also set up a shared folder on any device you have! I have an old Pi I have set up like that, could do it with an old laptop etc. too!
@bioniclelegend7 Місяць тому
Ngl this interests me massively. I love how tiny and compact this is. I have been running thinking of setting up a nas at home and something this small that supports m.2 SSDs. Sure it will cost a bit to set up like yours but as you said that's a one time cost and I like how easy it would be to upgrade the pcb while keeping the drives or keep the pcb and change the drives (if one died or something).
@cheeseisgreat24 Місяць тому
That intro is a balm for the tech soul. I am so glad they’ve been bringing it back ☺️
@GeneralJarrett1997 25 днів тому
Was thinking about building a NAS and just about to pull the trigger after looking for cheaper/small options and Linus goes and throws this out here. Only an ssd so not quite my use case now but I might be able to make something work.
@iampoch01 19 днів тому
I'm currently using a Synology DS920+ NAS and I'm a big proponent of it. I even convinced my manager to have one exclusively for our department instead of being reliant on Enterprise IT servers for some of our files. This NAS I'm VERY interested in, however. It doesn't cost a lot comparatively speaking, although the big letdown right now is that the biggest M2 I've seen in our country is 2TB, and it costs as much as (or a little lower in some cases) that 4TB drive you've featured.
@josephkeil7581 Місяць тому
I'm just glad to have the og intro back, just saying it is a highlight to find out what one liner it is today
@TortuousAugur Місяць тому
I must have been stuck in old video limbo because seeing a recent video featuring a cleanly shaved Linus gave me whiplash. Thanks for the video! Owning your own "cloud based storage" sounds awesome.
@Berecutecu 4 дні тому
An alterntative is to get an Intel NUC 9 Pro Kit, it has 3 M.2 slots instead of 4 but it has additionally a slot for a GPU. You can make it not only a photo and video backup server, install a Proxmox and make it a Plex/Emby/Jellyfin server, a Funkwhale server, and live with your data at home
@bjorksven Місяць тому
I have been looking for this exact hardware solution, looks pretty much perfect! Completely silent, efficient, and small. Just need to backup photos and small amounts of data ☺️
@trulsdirio Місяць тому
The big thing with cloud storage to me is not having it all in one place. If my house catches fire or a pipe bursts flooding my home, I don't want all of the copies of my most important files being in there.
@shortanimationz Місяць тому
Yeah this is all well and good but I'm happy to pay a "premium" for cloud storage since it's basically one click to set up and it runs independent of whether or not things are fine in my house.
@LostGeburah Місяць тому
that's the big difference. this video is mostly a nothing burger.
@JamesR624 Місяць тому
Exactly. What happens if your house has an issue or even just your internet has an issue? I see so many "stop paying for cloud storage" videos like this and they ALL miss this point, and lo and behold, they're all trying to shill these solutions that end up costing MORE, both in money, and peace of mind. (notice how to make the value seem good, they had to compare to ANNUAL subscription instead of MONTHLY. Sorry but many can afford $10/month a LOT more than $120 RIGHT NOW, and that's not even mentionng you loose all the benefits of cloud storage.
@mrmotofy Місяць тому
Did you miss the part about 3-2-1 the 1 is offsite. Which this could work well for
@Deus_wukong1468 Місяць тому
@@mrmotofyim sure they didn’t watch the video that far in the first place.
@ThrasherEscapes Місяць тому
i've used a few dozen teamgroup mp33 & mp34 drives in various builds over the last 2-3 years & they've all been rock solid. even have 2 of the 4tb mp34 drives in my gaming rig. one of the best values for a reasonable quality drive in the ssd market imo & worthy of a strong recommendation. they have some good values on gen 4 drives that might also be worth your consideration.
@zragon3k 25 днів тому
I keep my favorite photos that I can't live without additionally backed up on a paid cloud, but having large internal storage and a NAS has been a huge saver for me. I will never pay for cloud storage when I can just host my own. I definitely prefer having a seperate NAS rather than one in my desktop, though.
@JavierSalomonCruzLastra 22 дні тому
THANKS this is what I've been looking for a while to solve my "storage" problems, THANKS!! Regards from Tabasco, México [Land of The Olmecs]!
@katrinabryce Місяць тому
If you are using it to store your Steamboat Willie rips (and Linux ISOs) on Plex or Jellyfin, then mechanical drives are fine. A video stream needs about 1-2 IOPS. Mechanical drives do about 50-70 IOPS, SSDs do about 300,000 to 1,500,000 IOPS. Editing videos is obviously a very different matter, and you definitely need SSDs for that.
@mateuszzimon8216 Місяць тому
Idk but maybe 3 nvme, 5 Sata SSD it's enough for this configuration.
@katrinabryce Місяць тому
@@mateuszzimon8216 My NAS runs on FreeBSD. It is 4 x 10TB Iron Wolves, 2 x 2TB Samsung Evo (2.5" SATA) for ARC2 and 32GB RAM. The ARC Cache (RAM) hit rate is about 99% when I am not streaming videos, so most of the time it is running at RAM drive speeds. Videos open instantly and the network is the bottleneck, but it can handle backups of my store-bought 4k BluRays just fine. I think I could remove the ARC2 and not see any difference. Probably I will at some point and replace those slots with more mechanical drives to increase capacity.
@Deja117 Місяць тому
As someone who done animation for a very short time, SSDs changed my life. I just wish that Linus shown us a video compiling too.
@Kytetiger Місяць тому
Lol, i'll re-use the expression with copies of Steamboat Willie 😂
@meateaw Місяць тому
@@mateuszzimon8216 The answer is probably 2 large nvme, and 10 large sata.
@fukov3400 Місяць тому
This would be cool but you’re also looking at $500+ for 8TB of storage these days with prices rising on solid state storage. You could build a NAS with significantly higher capacity spinners for around that much or get the same amount of space for less. You don’t have to spend a lot of money for basic file storage. my NAS is a $30 used mini pc with an i3 6100t.
@herranton Місяць тому
Did you watch the whole video? They showed a m.2 to SATA adapter and explained that as a possibility. Also, not everyone needs 1tb of storage. I'd be perfectly content with ~1tb of storage. Four 512gb drives are _a lot_ cheaper. Not everyone stores their Linux isos and steam boat willy rips. Some of us just need photo and document backups.
@fukov3400 Місяць тому
@@herranton great, you can still do that far cheaper. From a mini pc to something as simple as plugging a flash drive into the USB port on your router (if equipped) or even just creating a file share on a desktop. There’s lots of options out there and this isn’t a bad one but there’s simpler ways to back up and access your files, often with equipment you may already have.
@altokers Місяць тому
@@herranton I mean that's still an extra $40 for the adapter. That money could be used on more storage.
@keiranfoster12 Місяць тому
Brilliant idea. I got a used mini PC for £30 here, £7 for an SSD to use as the boot drive, then £160 for a 12TB external HDD, I hooked that up with tailscale and I have that drive acessible anywhere. I also got a 1TB HDD off ebay for £7.50. That's for my duplicates of the important files/ offline/offsite backup. The HDD is more than powerful enough. I tested 10 devices playing back video at the same time off it. It's got an i3 4130t in it I think. SSDs are wasted on projects like this because most of the time you'll be throttled by either gigabit ethernet (125 mb/second max), or if you have the infrastructure at home 2.5 gigabit ethernet (~300 mb/second max). The SSDs go up to 3000-5000 mb/second if they're attached locally. And a high capacity HDD can do (200mb/second+). And if you're away from home you'll be throttled by very slow mobile data, wifi speeds, which at best will probably be gigabit (125 mb/second), and likely far far less. Unless you're in a big big city with 5G everywhere or a very powerful wired fibre connection 2.5Gigabit+ (which again is rare outside major cities / business connections / hotel connections) - it's wasted. Plus you'll also be limited by your home internet connection. I find it hard advocating for bulk SSD storage in something like this at at least 3-4x the price, plus all the extra boards and housing, when you're not going to get or need the throughput. It could be worthwhile if you need a small form factor and hyper power efficiency, will have lots of users using it simultaneously, or are doing direct video editing off it. Or if cost is not an issue to you - that's fine too! If you're not using it super intensively, HDDs can do the job amazingly well. They'll be idle most of the time, except when you're using them. Their capacities go much higher and I'd rather have 12TB of storage for the same price of 4TB SSD drive that will go at the same speed when it's in use.
@stonebubbleprivat Місяць тому
@fukov3400 but you don't have raid with one drive. If it fails, all is gone. I agree that the comparison to Google Drive 10 tb for 50 $/month is unrealistic. I just need 100 gb, if I include the photos from my camera. Also, backblaze offers unlimited backup capacity for 9$/month which would be a much better comparison, because the stated problem was backing up your photos/data from your phone.
@Marco-vp8wl Місяць тому
As a network noob I'd be very interested in a video showing how you would set up such a system in a way you can access it from your home network, or even from remote.
@RichardJActon 28 днів тому
tailscale is VPN that makes this very easy
@rektide Місяць тому
The HDMI-In could, with some significant elbow grease, maybe make this a media-streaming device too, which will save you the purchase of a $100 stream-recorder. You'd definitely need the hardware video encoding to be working (given the small CPU), and it seems like CPU based often has a bit higher quality, but supposedly rk3588 can hardware encode HEVC 4k@120fps! More down to earth, worth mentioning that Jellyfin has hardware encode & decode/transcoding support for rk3588. Not sure what the streaming test was here, but I imagine this board could do a great job at Jellyfin. I do wonder how well it handles simultaneous streams, wonder how capable the encoder is at multitasking (can it do 4x 1080p60)?
@JimParshall Місяць тому
Your compadre there with the fedora on reminds me of my company in Bellevue WA we used to teach a lot of Red Hat Linux and we were the certification Center for Red Hat Linux in Washington. There were times when all of our trainers including me that were teaching Red Hat wore Red Hat fedoras to teach the class in. So this wonderful video you made actually brought back a very serious nostalgia pain with me from the old days of teaching so much Red Hat Linux thanks that was great. I love this little device too by the way
@mxss115 Місяць тому
I considered it for a solid second, but I currently only pay $100/year for MS family, and I’ve got 4 people on it, 1TB each. Even if I got a low end config, with 2 cheap 4TB SSDs for redundancy, I’d be looking at $500 min after taxes and shipping on everything. So I’d be looking at 5 year for it pay itself off and I’d lose access to Office. However, if MS raises their prices it’ll definitely make me reconsider.
@nathanross4036 Місяць тому
Not to mention you'd probably need to upgrade something in 5 years anyway.
@pe1ucas 27 днів тому
I'd suggest not to think it as a replacement at first, but as an improvement. So you get the bare minimum and then upgrade it with the years to lessen the total cost.
@daveg4417 Місяць тому
All of my seven computer systems have internal Robocopy backup data drives and OS clone drives, external Robocopy backup data drives, a 48TB Asustor backup NAS, an offsite Synology backup NAS accessed via VPN, and some Google Cloud space for the really important stuff. I have a small software business and my data is important to me. I have everything set up so that a batch file backs up to each location. Easy-peasy.
@xXDragonWarrior3872Xx Місяць тому
That's awesome. Might finally set up a NAS w Jellyfin, thanks LMG
@JeremieBPCreation Місяць тому
I like those more cinematic segments. I prefer actually natural when possible but in those videos Linus is always playing his on-screen character anyway so I enjoy when they lay into the playing aspect. XD
@FUZIONHERE Місяць тому
Like 4 sponsors in 1 video?
@NobodyFresh 22 дні тому
It is ironic making fun of the "TV News" when he has more commercials than TV ever did.
@SJ-co6nk 21 день тому
Ironic that the guy who thinks ad blocking is piracy makes us watch so many ads on "ad-free" UKposts premium.
@NobodyFresh 21 день тому
@@SJ-co6nk we've evolved to the point of paying to watch ads. When are we starting a new internet?
@SJ-co6nk 21 день тому
@@NobodyFresh come over to the fediverse. Water's fine.
@Ancipital_ 21 день тому
This video is one giant ad
@ryansalwaysright 13 днів тому
Thank you for this. At the beginning of the year i was looking to build my own cloud and was looking to make it out of my old computer. Not because i cant afford the service but because i hate the accessibility of cloud services most days.
@em7dim9 18 днів тому
Using an SBC as a NAS may work for you, but I hated it. After the device finally failed, I replaced it with a full computer (old beat-up Optiplex USFF) running Debian. ARM-based systems limit you on what O/S you can run. It was so nice to just be able to grab regular Linux distros and have the choice of any DE I want.
@Joseph_Lico Місяць тому
This would've been a perfect opportunity to talk about Immich. I've been looking for a NAS specifically to self host all my photos and it looks to have the closest experience to that of Google Photos. Would still be cool to see you guys do a video on it someday.
@AceBoy2099 Місяць тому
Same here, looking for an equivalent to "onedrive" (what i currently use but have to clear space every so often, no monthly plans for me) to do auto backup of photos from my and my families phones to my home seever/nas (TrueNAS).
@ricarmig Місяць тому
I would like to know if that could be used really as a CLOUD as Dropbox: I configure an app and outside my network, I can just sync as Dropbox things from my laptop or phone to it. Just as a NAS … it’s cool, but lacks what I’m searching.
@dominikreda8445 Місяць тому
@@ricarmig well... Have you heard of NextCloud? You should take a look at r/selfhosted, there's so much cool stuff to host that a dropbox replacement is kinda lame. Also if you just wanna try from my experience the best way is to just do it. I use old laptop as 'server' with linux and use docker, really fun to learn. Anything can be use as server.
@PTSeTe Місяць тому
@@ricarmigYou´d want Nextcloud for that not Immich
@tartletboy Місяць тому
@@ricarmignextcloud might be what you are looking for. As long as you setup a way of accessing local resources externally, it should be a near drop in replacement for dropbox
@littlejack59 Місяць тому
I think the biggest problem is how do you set up an off site backup unless you own multiple homes and or own your own buesniess with a shop that has electricity 24/7. If you dont then you have to use a cloud service which defeats the whole point because they probably have redundant backups and they arent cheep enough to justify having that along with your own NAS. Back blaze is a cheeper option and thats still $6 per tb per month. Multiply that by 12 (since 1 of the drives will be redundant) and thats $864 a year.
@Shmuklidooha Місяць тому
I was planning on this, and the solution for me would be to have the offsite redundancy be held by a family member I can trust. They'd have to make space for it, but in exchange they could also make use it. We would all have our files be password-protected for privacy of course.
@n_core Місяць тому
I would say that sharing with a friend who's also interested in data backup and storage could be one of the options. Your friend has their offsite backup to be in your house and your offsite backup to be in their house. I think it's a better mutual benefit rather than using a family member's house who is probably not interested in data redundancy. If your backup goes under, you can go to your friend's house to restore your data.
@pe1ucas Місяць тому
It doesn't defeat the purpose, your backup isn't meant to be read directly, it's to restore your main drive, so you can put it into something slow and cheap, and with the current setup of cloud storage your data is fully available to the provider. With a backup you should encrypt your data before uploading it. Also, most probable you don't want to backup all the 12TB, unless you have a very similar need to linus to store and backup a lot of raw footage you'll probably only need less than a TB to store your critical data (i.e. data you can't download again from any other part from the internet) I have around 400GB of data worth backing up in the 3TB I have at home. The rest is media which if I lose I'll just go search to download it again.
@TheJayMane 27 днів тому
You can get a Beelink Mini S12 with a much more powerful CPU and 16GB of ram for $180 if you want to run multiple Docker containers. It does only have 500GB, but you can upgrade it to 2TB and it has an NVME slot to expand it further. So while it is lacking 2 additional drives, it can definitely save you money if you want to run multiple platforms like Home Assistance, OctoPrint, Plex, without need multiple Raspberry Pis.
@kyjo72682 4 дні тому
this is a NAS, not an app server. it's supposed to have like 16-32 TB depending on drives
@timpenner7858 22 дні тому
I really dig the way the budget for a marvelous personal NAS starts out at $100, but the thing we're talking about slides up to several hundred once you add STORAGE - of all things.
@raffskid857 Місяць тому
You should talk about Nextcloud and how to set it up, to make your NAS a true cloud storage solution.
@HaimRich94 Місяць тому
Just be aware with exploits and always keep the instance updated, nextcloud has been exploited a lot in the past
@hojnikb Місяць тому
Unless you actually need all the nextcloud functionality, i'd avoid it at all cost. Instead use one of those simple web based file explorers for remote file access on a PC and/or webdav/scp and a dedicated sync app on your phone. Much less complexity and possibility for exploits.
@Adures Місяць тому
Back when I was a student I successfully ran Nextcloud instance serving terabytes of data (usually before exams lol), so I know it is capable platform, but it's just not stable enough to recommend to most people. It's pain in the butt. Nextcloud team is very aggressive with updates, every update will introduce some bugs which may or may not affect you. Don't believe me? Just look at their gihub issues lol (both open and closed). Even minor releases are problematic.
@raffskid857 Місяць тому
@@HaimRich94 I have mine constantly updated but yeah I’m aware of exploits. That’s generally why I don’t put incredibly important stuff on there and make sure to have backups.
@joshuapettus6973 9 днів тому
@@hojnikb I got to say what is this concern with the security of Nextcloud? And why would a nobody software solution with limited resources be safer? Nextcloud is at it's heart a Webdav server and you would be hitting all the same security concerns with opening a PC to the internet. At least with Nextcloud, I know the software itself is secure with a large opensource organization behind it. The rest is still on me with any self hosted solution.
@timeimp Місяць тому
5:18 - 5:19 is the $50 Australian note. Well done Linus!
@shangrilai1990 Місяць тому
Pineapples
@Eilaithen1 Місяць тому
Canada also has plastic money so I had to do a double take on that one
@brodz1y619 Місяць тому
Im glad i wasnt the only one who noticed
@crushivintage Місяць тому
Linus Tech Tips, your company's channel and advice videos are still astonishing and I love that you are honest.
@BradleySmith1985 Місяць тому
one forgotten large bounus is the data can be made cold by just unplugging your nas. securing your data 100%
@handlesRtrash354 Місяць тому
lmao old man linus is the best. hope we see him in the future :) honestly more skits like the opener would be rad.
@shapelessed Місяць тому
Yesterday I was at an event with a few DevOps engineers. You know what everyone said? - Every cloud is a glorified vendor-lock. Not one of them disagreed. That says something...
@crash.override Місяць тому
Yeah, multi-cloud is better, so you can credibly threaten to switch if there's a crazy price increase.
@willemmkuipers Місяць тому
That says nothing. When running single cloud you can still use cloud agnostic architectures. Unless you go the full serverless route where the ecosystem becomes more cloud specific, this is a completely meaningless statement. Yes I run hundreds of mission critical workloads in a (multi-) cloud
@shapelessed Місяць тому
@@willemmkuipers It says a lot. Cloud services are designed to do a lot of work for you, making deployment faster, but in turn locking you in with baffling egress fees. You can spend 0.3x the time doing things with cloud-vendor-specific technologies and ship faster, or do things yourself and then maintain all that stuff, which requires quite a bit more staff. It's easy to say "it says nothing" where what it says is people use it and they will keep using it. There is always someone who will have to argue with a clueless executive who'll decide that faster shipping time and lower maintenance is worth it anyways, despite the leads explaining for hours that it isn't really that simple.
@3Dant Місяць тому
I mean sure, for DevOps. For the home user just looking to keep their photos safe, cloud makes sense.
@shapelessed Місяць тому
@@3Dant Anything that isn't in your control makes no sence. The only thing cloud is good for is an off-site backup in this case, and that's after the files are encrypted on your side.
@felipeprenholato2301 25 днів тому
I was looking for PCI-e NVME expansion cards, for 4 ssds and even with a fan just yesterday. The good point is that we can use on old ITX boards, but this device is really awesome. I would prefer to put money on upgrade my desktop instead and use my current hardware with pci-e NVME boards.
@zwheels654 21 день тому
I will say, as a business owner, I found a steal of a deal with Office 365. Not this good of a deal, but one I'm happy with since I need the email hosting and office products anyway. I get 1 TB per user for $5 per month and I host client video files. So if I sign on a new long-term client, they get their own email address and a dedicated 1 TB of storage thrown in for just $5 per month. I do a lot of UGC and remote video projects, too. So setting up my client with a shared space to dump files, and share delivery is super seamless. If I ever have a bigger operation, though, I'm thankful for videos like these. One day it may make sense for me to self-host.
@jajssblue Місяць тому
Elijah wears many hats at LTT
@AarPlays Місяць тому
Idk why but I heard this in Rolf's voice. "Elijah wears many hats ed-boy"
@herranton Місяць тому
He's been promoted. It used to be many helmets.
@nopers2223322 Місяць тому
Frodo
@BioToxin Місяць тому
as a trucker space in the cab is a premium, but I need a nas with me because of how often I'm stuck in areas with either bad or no signal. so this is right up my alley. I've tried the apex board with a cable to put it in a small form factor. I tried the 12 bay flash nas. but there's something very attractive about this so I'm going to try this as well. I think more than likely it'll end up at home and I'll get a few to make a San or something, maybe make one pool for my Plex, one pool for my steam, etc. I am really looking forward to seeing any other versions they come out with. this would be perfect if they pushed out a double side pcb letting you do 8 or more ssds, and maybe a 10g base t though at that point I don't think the chip would handle it. but we're getting there!
@WetOlde Місяць тому
My one issue with stuff like this is that last time i calculated the yearly power cost, it was on par with a 10$/month subscription with way better integration
@Rigel_Chiokis 16 днів тому
An interesting video and very reminiscent of the days before the public had access to the internet. In businesses, we had magetic tape drives for backing up the hard disk drives and at home it was either a secondary HD drive or a big box of floppy disks. But, this device wouldn't be cost effective for me. I only pay $1.49 per month for 50 GB of storage and I don't use more than maybe 4 GB of that. Mainly because I don't store my photos there, I back them up to a har disk in the PC.
@Monique-iz8lp Місяць тому
Welp, we crashed the site again
@markawilliams4860 Місяць тому
Its been a long time since we've seen you guys do NAS video. Love how small it is, would be awesome as an offsite nas backup.
@goku445 Місяць тому
Way too expensive and lacking sata.
@kwlkid85 Місяць тому
@@goku445 M.2 to SATA adapters are cheap
@goku445 Місяць тому
@@kwlkid85 That's NVMe. Not the same protocol.
@kwlkid85 Місяць тому
@@goku445 Any M.2 to SATA adapter with more than one SATA port will work as they connect via PCIe not SATA
@kwlkid85 Місяць тому
@@goku445 It's you who doesn't understand, I'm an IT engineer with decades of experience. Think about those M.2 slots as just small PCIe slots, just like you can get SATA expansion cards for a regular PCIe slot you can also get SATA expansion cards for M.2 slots. They connect over PCIe the same as NVME SSDs.
@LucidThought 29 днів тому
I'd have preferred the old Linus, the very old way this product might have been promoted in the good old 'house' LTT days.. but you've managed to introduce a product that I didn't know about for a need I've been trying to resolve, so for that I'm grateful. I pay for family Office 365, which covers couple of generations of my 'tech' family, so I have a massive amount of online storage (family pics wise) but I recently transitioned over to 2.5GbE ethernet locally and was looking for a more easily/quick local storage, so I could potentially run a local AI to 'filter/sort' through my years and years of backups, of backups, of backups from numerous decommissioned PC's that I've been dreading to do. Less cheese and a bit more 'average user needs' and I might pop back a bit more often.. like I use to do.
@lurtiskoe 23 дні тому
must have been reading my mind because I was just thinking of a somewhat affordable way to upgrade all my video editing storage too nvme drives. this is way better then actually getting a traditional nas, and would be great for travel. i want one.
@donkaos501 Місяць тому
The best way to take down a Website, promote their product :)) love it
@Blake_the_Drake Місяць тому
Right? I got on it for about 18 seconds.....annnnnnnnnd it's gone.
@AnthroBean2906 Місяць тому
Loved the start and the smooth transition lol
@wyohost 20 днів тому
This is exactly what I was looking for. Good ol' Google reading my mind again. Have you got a video on the 321 rule? Would love to see the best way to set that up and a handful of resources.
@racerx1326 15 днів тому
Thank you for this video looks great. Is there a video tutorial you can recommend on step by step setup of this? Looks a bit daunting.
@caleballen1330 Місяць тому
A really practical topic and good video! A more detailed cost breakdown would be helpful though as I'm not certain it is always cheaper. You have to include power costs (especially in Europe) drive failures and perhaps double it for the 3-2-1 rule. With Google Drive or iCloud we assume that those things are handled for us. I love tinkering but have yet to nail down a cheap, surefire storage and backup strategy that fulfils 3-2-1
@Tininppa Місяць тому
and the easy use for cloud without security risk to your home network
@bastienx8 Місяць тому
In Europe the biggest storage you can have on Google Drive is 2TB for 100€/year, a board like this one with two drives is paid for in 2 years even with power costs since it doesn't consume that much. Your ISP router probably needs more power than this.
@Mikeey1 Місяць тому
Yeah, I started the video and thought damn this could be okay but $95 is quite expensive when I can just pay a few $ a year for extra Apple storage and get unlimited photo storage with Amazon Prime. But, I could see it being convenient. To then keep adding bits that make it more and more expensive, to then be talking about a nearly $900 piece of kit in a working state. Sure if you're storing A LOT of films and whatnot, maybe that's of use for you for some reason. But, I can't see why it's even remotely reasonable at those kinds of prices for any normal user who will just have a boat load of pictures and videos they've taken themselves. Just buy an external hard drive and call it a day
@CanIHasThisName Місяць тому
Power is at most 33€ a year where I live, that's assuming 100% load 24/7 (which isn't realistic). No, Google drive or iCloud do not handle 3-2-1 for you. You can lose data on cloud, it happens. Cloud storage can at best be considered your off-site backup. The biggest hurdle people need to jump over when trying to implement 3-2-1 is realizing that perhaps they don't actually need to have backed up all of their hoarded data. Pretty much anything that can be recovered elsewhere isn't worth backing up. And 3-2-1 should only be applied to things you can't afford to lose. Let's be honest, lots of people hoard stuff they will never actually need. Once you start getting into the off-site part of storage, it's no longer just about the hardware, but also about the fact that you need to have that hardware somewhere. If it's too close to your home, it's exposed to many of the same risks as on-site. And in many use-cases it will actually turn out that Cloud isn't a bad solution, especially for low volume things like photos.
@MrBrax Місяць тому
@@bastienx8but in Europe one of those 4tb ssds cost 440€ each. This project makes no sense here
@DonPaulo19 Місяць тому
Thank you for covering this, Linus! I looked for a cheap, upgradable NAS with low power consumption for years.
@goku445 Місяць тому
That is not it. It's expensive, and it's not the worst... it lacks SATA. You can find much better.
@moonstrobe Місяць тому
@@goku445What would you recommend?
@Ehren1337 Місяць тому
Yeah.. what do you recommend? What moonstrobe asked.@@goku445
@WindCatcherRC Місяць тому
Awesome video. I'd like to update our NAS. Has LTT done a video on backup software in the last year? I'm wondering if there is a reliable and easy to use back up application that someone can buy on a budget and does not have an annual fee. I really really dislike annual/monthly fees.
@ziguirayou 19 днів тому
It is cool. Just a few issues I have with this: I don't think SSDs glued together in the same board really counts as storage redundancy. Also, being within the same network and same building seems like a risk, depending on how critical your data storage is. Also, you need to factor-in power consumption, components life expectancy and cooling. Plus, if you have a decent contract with a remote storage provider you should have insurance for any losses as well. With an owned storage solution, you'll have to purchase insurance on your own. But I can see how this could be a good solution for some users.
@Elwon20 Місяць тому
Really cool! A few more details on the m2 SATA adapter, and how to use standard spinning drives would have been a noce addition. Like why is it limited to 32TB? How many drives should we use per M2? One feels like underutilised bandwidth.. could we get away with 5 per slot for a total of 20drives? Suggestions on how to power them, etc.
@jeremi96221 9 днів тому
That's what I want to know!
@Seizuqi Місяць тому
I was looking for a home storage server, this vid is perfect timing
@jgrissinger3805 Місяць тому
I've always employed used HP business machines as home NAS servers. A $30 dual/quad core Intel box that can fit 3-5 hard drives makes a great addition to a network. I don't need cloud. I will always have my own.
@tonykeltsflorida Місяць тому
I use Playbook as photo storage. No problems and 4TB for free. I have a couple of Crucial portable SSD drives also. This video now gives me an idea for a new project.
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