Pirelli’s New F1 Tyres Make NO SENSE
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The new Pirelli F1 tyres are weird this year, really weird.
Often, the hard tyre has been the fastest. Two and three stops have been faster than the 1 stop that Pirelli recommends, and Mercedes and Aston Martin have been using all of their tyres before the race.
But yet all that madness, the racing has been excellent. And that is partly down to the tyres being great for pushing hard.
So what’s going on here? We’re going to go over everything we know about these new F1 tyres for 2022.
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#F1 #Pirelli #Tyres
@hallamhal Рік тому
Years of being told "less reliable tyres = more interesting strategy = more interesting racing" Yet now we have better tyres, and the racing has been more interesting
@RockSolitude Рік тому
That's the FIA and F1 pundits for you. They'll swallow and tow whatever the FIA and F1 is trying to sell us without thinking.
@SurrealCereal Рік тому
@@aaronwestley3239 they only count race laps for records though no? Outright lap records are all 2020 and 2021 cars.
@okamileek006 Рік тому
it's less about tyre "reliability" and more about tyre deg, the tyres this year aren't more reliable, they're more predictable deg wise but they still deg faster than it naturally would
@tedt7991 Рік тому
Unpredictable tyres are no way fun for racing, as the drivers will focus on the tyres more than racing himself as have happened on the past few years, a default tyre structure is much better
@wernertrugler1171 Рік тому
@@aaronwestley3239 2004 cars were much faster around corners. as well as many other years.
@konnorkinser9468 Рік тому
I think with the Q2 tire rule gone now they should go back to having all 5 compounds available every weekend I think that could lead to even better racing than the improvements we’ve seen this year because the different strategies that would be available to the drivers. Could lead to some very interesting strategies that would lead to more entertainment
@jeffreycote8225 Рік тому
Too confusing for most fans perhaps?
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Рік тому
Only issue with that would be a *lot* of tires forced to be taken to each track every weekend We've never had all 5-7 ranges available in a given week as well only been 3 tires types a weekend since about 2017 Bring back the Pirelli rainbow though lol
@andrewa9700 Рік тому
Even more true when you consider the tyre blankets slowly phasing out.
@d1pz9 Рік тому
As we know from history, strategic racing =/= more or better racing. In fact, I'd say it's the opposite
@laffinarab Рік тому
To make 5 compounds available pirelli would need to take so many tyres to each race it wouldnt be feasible. I would go the other way and say reduce it to 2 sets. Most only use 2 compounds during a race anyway.
@namenamename390 Рік тому
IMO the tyres this year have been the best Pirelli has supplied so far (ignoring the ones in the 50s lol)
@Driver61 Рік тому
Agreed!
@Very_Grumpy_Cat Рік тому
What happened in the 50s
@namenamename390 Рік тому
@@Very_Grumpy_Cat Pirelli also supplied some F1 teams with tyres in the 50s and they had the best ones back then, grippier and more durable than of other suppliers of the time.
@Very_Grumpy_Cat Рік тому
@@namenamename390 was that before it got regulated with all the rules on how the tyres should be
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Рік тому
Yeah but not for the reasons Pirelli desired it seems. More like they kinda made their tyres flopped it but stumbled into something great.
@thesunnynationg Рік тому
you should mention that the Q2 tire rule has been deleted so everyone can choose whatever they like for the race start!
@nakki123 Рік тому
Yeah this was really bad rule as it made the cap in races between top team and midfield bigger than it needed to be.
@mitchellbaker6528 Рік тому
@@nakki123 thats one way of looking at it, the other way is that it gave P11 onwards an advantage in tire choice.
@nakki123 Рік тому
@@mitchellbaker6528 why should P11 onwards have advantage over P5-P10?
@oldunclemick Рік тому
@@nakki123 they weren't in Q2 and could pick for the race.
@leeriddick7 Рік тому
@@nakki123 gives them more chance to gain places, in theory producing more competitive racing. Clearly it didn’t always work that way.
@Sir_Uncle_Ned Рік тому
I love how the better tyres have enabled such radically different approaches to managing those tyres
@killer414 Рік тому
is thamks to kaemmer from iracing
@victordelgado7408 Рік тому
@@killer414 who?
@killer414 Рік тому
@@victordelgado7408 gae kaemmer
@bikeindustryshill Рік тому
@@killer414 It’s really not
@killer414 Рік тому
@@bikeindustryshill it is
@quintonworden6318 Рік тому
It has been interesting to see how the new tires have changed things. It really stood out to me that the hard tires are still good for racing when Leclerc was still able to fight multiple laps with cars on fresh softs at Silverstone after the safety car. Even though he did end up getting passed, previous years I feel like he wouldn't have stood a chance at all and probably fallen even further back than he did.
@PlaySA Рік тому
'Hard tires' doesn't even tell the full story because the hard tire could either be C1, C2 or C3. So the hard tire at one race could be the soft tire at the next
@ImReverseGiraffe Рік тому
@@PlaySA but it will always be the hardest Tyre that weekend. That's the point. To simplify things for the casual fan. All they need to know is soft, medium, hard and not supersoft, hypersoft, and ultrasoft
@abcdefghijklmno1009 Рік тому
Exactly 2021 Abu Dhabi perfect example. Hamilton had no chance.
@blue04mx53 Рік тому
I learn much more from this channel than I do from an hour of 'pre-race' commentary on SkySports.
@suitsandstrings2641 Рік тому
This 100x. Smart, quality, objective, and insightful takes on the sport. As an American forced to watch through Sky's F1TV subscription I'm getting sick of hearing "Team from Enstone" and "Milton Keynes outfit" just to remind the Brits why they should care. >Except Sam Collins, love that guy.
@HatchieeOG Рік тому
This channel and Peter Windsor are the best f1 channels on UKposts for sure
@blue04mx53 Рік тому
@@suitsandstrings2641 There are parts of Sky Sports I really enjoy. Kroft is really good at 'play by play'. And I enjoy hearing from the former race car drivers. Naomi Schiff gives a much needed new insight. But, I could really do without the interviews with 'Mr Spice Girl' (Christian Horner) All he does is whine about Mercedes. I just wish they could give us more tech info. (Like Driver61) And this year especially the racing has been wonderful. I attended the Canadian Grand Prix and loved it!
@joshuapowers4623 Рік тому
That's because a pre-race show is designed to be entertaining to as many people as possible, not be a technical breakdown of race engineering.
@victorblakey4260 Рік тому
To paraphrase you, ‘I learned more from listening to an expert than watching entertainers on Murdoch Media’. Sounds fair enough to me.
@AcD420 Рік тому
I kinda miss the hilarious names tires used to have. Or actually just the creativity they had to have to come up with even softer names for tires. The pink hypersofts will forever be in my heart
@52347HanSolo Рік тому
"Hard Tyres are best" - and then came Hungary. I love it, makes the pre-race strategy and in race adjustments all the more important. Never being able to settle on a single "best" compound might keep the team up at night but it makes for incredible viewing of race strategy.
@adam346 Рік тому
that Silverstone battle is SO GOOD, just mentioning it puts a smile on my face.
@legoferrari14 Рік тому
I am honestly stunned that this late into the season there _still_ hasn't been a spectacular blowout. I thought this season we were going to see at least one race like Silverstone 2013.
@BrunodeSouzaLino Рік тому
We're gonna call the strategy: "One medium followed by two hard ons."
@AndrewDRSWilliamson Рік тому
Thanks for another great insight I've learned so much from you guys already. Mr Scarborough deserves some love too great work mate.
@4whomittolz846 Рік тому
The huge variety of strategies is awesome. Even if they aren't very competitive, the fact that AM is employing such a radical strategy is really cool.
@watson956 Рік тому
Got a problem with this analysis, and that is that, as you know, Pirelli has *5* compounds for slicks, not just hard / medium / soft. Your graphic at 3:14 mentions that the 'hard' compound for Austria was the C3, which was supposedly the 'soft' compound at Silverstone (see graphic at 7:53 ) The discussion would have been different had they chosen the C1-C2-C3 range for Austria. However, that being said, Pirelli do appear to have the compounds in control, as well as their *selection* of the compounds on a race-by-race basis in 2022.
@joshuapowers4623 Рік тому
I disagree. His analysis still track on a race by race basis. The fact that the hard tire at one circuit was the soft or medium at another is irrelevant. When it was the available hard, it was the preferred tire, when there was a harder one available as the option, that one was preferred. It's in line with everything he's said.
@danyb97 Рік тому
The tyres this year are much better than before because it gave the drivers some confidence to push and race 👍🏼
@its_only_karma7440 Рік тому
Yes because the hard tyres actually have a life unlike the rest that start to degrade after a couple of laps,,also as the hard tyre wares down it probably helps the compound actually behave better and not loose time as rapidly as they have before
@OCinneide Рік тому
Watching people come out of the pits with cold hard tyres and sliding all over the place was crazy in the Bahrain GP. But then they broke in the tyres and they came to life.
@guilhermefonseca1562 Рік тому
I hope next year Pirelli uses different colors for all the 5 compounds, instead of only using 3 color, because it is quite confusing
@jorrittimmers8066 Рік тому
It is confusing because you know there are more compounds. The casual viewer does not know this so it is a bit of a white lie to not confuse the new fan. So I hope they keep it the same so the confusion is with the informed fans and not the casual new fan
@Rocky712_ Рік тому
@@jorrittimmers8066 That's totally true, but I think that casual viewers probably do not even understand the difference between tyre compounds in general. They usually rely on the commemtator. As a hard core fan, I loved the Pirelli Rainbow and it was quite easier to get a feel of what a C1-C5 is capable of. Now it's hidden behind different colours depending on the track. Only caveat: If you don't know what range of tyres is available, you might not know that the "Supersofts" were actually the hard compound compared with Ultra and Hypersoft. Both systems have their pro and con, but I think overall the previous system was a bit better and more consistent for the audience that is actually interested in tyre compounds.
@PlaySA Рік тому
I completely agree. It's really hard to remember which range of three tires get chosen for each race. You can still call them hard medium and soft but just have different colors for C1-C5. OR you could do it Superhard, Hard, Medium, Soft, and Supersoft and just call it what it is.
@jorrittimmers8066 Рік тому
@@Rocky712_ Also true that the casual viewer relies on the commentator. Maybe ask Crofty what's best?
@VIctorAbicalil Рік тому
@@Rocky712_ IMO the current system is much better. Tyre compounds will have different behaviours depending on track type, surface, temperature, etc, so as a spectator you can't really compare them accross different circuits, unless you want to go down to engineer levels of data analysis. And, if you really want to go there, you can just google the compounds selected for a given weekend. The current system makes it far easier to understand strategies during the races, since you immediately know where a compound sits in the range of available tyres. Otherwise you'd have to memorize what compounds are available, since a "medium" or "C3" tyre could be either the softest or hardest option of a given circuit.
@jorrittimmers8066 Рік тому
Great subject, I learned a lot. I had the idea the tires were good but now I know what to look for.
@bw8818 Рік тому
As much as i love on track action, i love the strategic fight between the teams.
@milesfisher278 Рік тому
Pirelli have always had the ability to make tyres more durable but F1 mandated that they be quick wearing. It never made sense to me, it made the races tame as drivers didn't want to push too hard during the race with many overtakes happening as a result of pit strategy. I hope this years trend continues and we scrap the old days.
@olievans7840 Рік тому
Such an interesting video, thank you!
@omarspost Рік тому
I never knew 'cold' tyres are 100°C. What's their optimal temp during racing?
@andre61345 Рік тому
Its not their are that cool in the garage. But as the car goes down the pit lane the wheels lose a lot of temperature as they have no force going through them. In the previous seasons teams could prepare for this
@j_gibbon Рік тому
I thought 100°C was within the optimal temperature range but i could be wrong.
@shogt3248 Рік тому
@@j_gibbon Yes pretty sure all of them last year were 100 degrees as optimal temp ranges. A lot bigger ranges this year, so hards are comfortable at 100, but can operate up to 145 I think. (and mediums to 125-135 ish)
@its_only_karma7440 Рік тому
@@shogt3248 yeah but those temps are actually hard to achieve (for the actual carcas to be at 140ish degrees) the surface maybe yes in some corners
@kareema7855 Рік тому
@@shogt3248 this is not true. 95 is the optimal operating temp. You are in overheat territory at 110 and cold territory below 80
@lancepenner2551 Рік тому
4:27 did he just flip me off? Great information
@antoniomonteiro3698 Рік тому
ah! you removed the echo! I can now understand the old guy speaking - everything helps ESLres - thank you!
@OTOss8 Рік тому
GOOD GOD. Scarbs sounds AMAZING in this video. THANK YOU for fixing his audio situation!!
@Allblue1 Рік тому
Maybe the tyres will make a good race at france as in Austria was struggling whiles Mercedes have no problem with tyres. Ferrari does not like heat. Will it be a 3 team race, HOPE SOO.
@oz2362 Рік тому
The mercedes hates heat too, i wouldnt be suprised if alpine surpass them if they dont fuck it up themselves
@Allblue1 Рік тому
@@oz2362 They probably won't. They are the most improved team in terms of pace. Alpine on the other hand is not quicker than the Mercedes. Not once has the alpine been close to Mercedes closest that has is the mclaren.
@Driver61 Рік тому
Got a feeling that Merc will be strong this weekend!
@spooked2104 Рік тому
@@oz2362 mercs run on lower power to prevent the same, hence they are the most reliable team, least components used and them too cus of crashes. Imagine if this is their pace at only 60-70%
@davidstahl3164 Рік тому
@@oz2362 Mercedes have been struggling to get heat into the tyres. The heatwave in Europe combined with the smooth track is a match made in heaven for Mercedes
@davidcarroll5701 Рік тому
Congratulations Pirelli What a company 12 years and they nailed the tyres well done
@SilkyDimi Рік тому
I love this seasons tyres but I do wish that the soft compound tyres were more useful. They’re only ever really used in qualifying
@callumscott2650 Рік тому
I know it's not this channels origin or focus but I'd love to see some MotoGP content, even if on a seperate channel. Maybe Rider61? 🤔😁
@LucianoBargmann Рік тому
Nice Driver61 team! You are the only ones talking about this
@MENQN Рік тому
There's two different Hards that makes choosing the right calls more difficult than ever before for a team that doesn't warm it's tyres up quickly or if there is an unbalanced issue.
@bakesoup5974 Рік тому
You are also missing the facts that pirelli changes the tyre compound from race to race example.. in austria the c3 tyre was the called the hards and at Silverstone the c3 tyre was called the softs
@alan_davis Рік тому
^this
@OhKnow379 Рік тому
That's been the case since 2020
@kevinhanandi Рік тому
Isn't it always the case once they ditch hypersoft, supersoft, etc?
@bakesoup5974 Рік тому
@@kevinhanandi technically they didn't ditched the hyper or super soft they are renamed for the race ... pirelli just chooses 3 compound and name them softs medium and hards to avoid the confusion but the hyper soft would be the c5 super c4 softs c3 mediums c2 and hards c1
@OhKnow379 Рік тому
@@kevinhanandi yeah its always been like that since 2012 they just changed the names
@MaunoKoivistoOfficial Рік тому
The tires seem alright. The only issue is currently that the medium tire isn't fast enough. Ideally, there should be a .7 to 1.0 second difference in lap time between each compound. What makes tire strategy interesting and the races more action packed is creating differences in relative speeds, and having that difference change throughout a stint and the whole race. For this to work, there tire performance gaps need to be sufficiently large, and the allocation must not allow the teams to run their preferred tire at all times during a weekend.
@Ziggyzaggy300 Рік тому
In f1 games I just start on softs, get some overtakes and gaps, then pit to mediums/hards.
@alfaracer9876 Рік тому
I've always wondered if multiple compound tyres would be possible. ie a soft compound on the very outside for starts and warm up, turning into a medium and then as the tyres wear even more have a much harder inner compound. This would allow drivers to push the whole time but would give a big advantage to newer tyres. Probably not possible due to production costs I'd imagine though.
@deadbeef576 Рік тому
The FIA doesnt want that because pit stops make the race interesting.
@PlaySA Рік тому
Yeah the FIA loves pit stops and I can see their point. Pirelli already could make a tire that would last the full race easily.
@erkinalp 10 місяців тому
@@PlaySA FIA could instead well run an RNG and call for a forced pit stop in random laps for each car separately 😅
@f1matt Рік тому
Fantastic video!
@12th.jahlil Рік тому
I wish pirelli were allowed to actually allowed to develop the tires the same way michelin does endurance tires, often times the compounds are for conditions rather then performance. Harder compounds work in rougher conditions
@purple4395 Рік тому
Since F1 is finally slowly going away from heating mat's I'm very curious how this will change in the future. Even with a formation lab they will be pretty cold at the start
@Kaneaco Рік тому
It depends on the compounds the pick.. been a few races where the hard is no good, Hungry springs to mind.
@milkshakemuncher Рік тому
I wonder if on both fronts the new lower sidewalls of the tyres are a big factor in the reason? Lower side wall means stiffer tyre, not as much lateral movement, not as much compression and expansion under braking and acceleration. Pirelli adjust the tyre compound for this year's ground effect cars maybe still considering the heat all the tyre movement of the past generates. Also Mercedes not fully considering how much less the tyre movement and heat energy would be, therefore designing their car thinking they'd heat up the same as previous regulation, but caught out. Silver lining being they can last longer as stated in the video.
@DoNuT_1985 Рік тому
Even if the balance between soft/medium/hard is a bit off, it's the same for everybody and we see better racing with more laps that you can really beat on those tyres. I know, the Formula 1 was always trying to create an element of surprise and tension with such regulations (and less durable compounds in the last years) but I personally think, it should be less about struggle and managing it and more about "active battle time" (due to cars that can be driven hard from start to finish).
@dgoodwin1122 Рік тому
Lets hope Pirelli doesnt say 'oh, this isnt actually how its supposed to work' and then change them and ruin it.
@Jonathan_Doe_ Рік тому
The tyres probably overheat less due to lower sidewall flex over bumps/during cornering
@AhmedAlBoraie Рік тому
I guess this refers to possible mislabeling in pirelli's permises!!!!! I noticed in some early race this year (with red bull as I remember) that the medium tires behaviour during the race was so different than those on the parctrice.. that wasn't the case with the rest of the teams.
@mateusssssss567 Рік тому
I'm glad you took your channel back so quickly, mate. Love your work.
@timothykhoo3850 Рік тому
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the drivers seemed to struggle with getting the hards up to temperature after a pit stop this year? I seem to remember many struggling on the out lap after a new set of tires (hards especially). Or have the teams fixed this issue? Otherwise great video again guys
@benfulford3943 Рік тому
I was thinking this as well. It was especially apparent on the Mercedes, which they do address in the video, but I was sure other teams were finding it took a couple of laps to switch them on. I do believe this is more to do with the tyre blankets being at lower temperatures
@bertram-raven Рік тому
If they scrubbed them in, no they get to the racing window quickly. If they were new and still coated in the shiny releasing compound, yes there is a period of time which is not about warming so much as scrubbing off the protective layer.
@timothykhoo3850 Рік тому
@@bertram-raven ah I see thanks. In that case do you know why don't more teams do it?
@PlaySA Рік тому
Tire warmers can only heat tires to 70 degrees now, much cooler than in previous rulesets.
@LBNMKRS Рік тому
One of the reason Merc was dominating are the bespoke tyres Pirelli made for them. They didnt work as good on other cars. Same as Ferrari back in the Schumi days. I cant think of how many times Pirelli changed the tyre by Mercedes request. Harder rears, thinner thread and so on.
@dewydewback1376 Рік тому
Since they mention how little difference there is between mediums and hards lap times, I wonder if using hards and softs might actually be more beneficial?
@johncenile8044 Рік тому
Almost every race has been up in the air because of the different timed pits. The racing has been quite entertaining 😀
@drew1784 Рік тому
Hard tyres weren't great for Ferrari and Alpine last weekend in Hungary though
@Maartwo Рік тому
They should go back to tyre compounds with less deg so drivers can go flat out all race long. Since engines are more fuel efficient now there's no need for refueling.
@Jt7166 Рік тому
Let's not forget that the tires used in 2021 were actually a few years old, design wise. It's good to see Pirelli make a nice step with the added development time for this year.
@AgentLTK Рік тому
can you do a video about the weird square rear wing on the Mercedes in France? it's different than the wing earlier in the year.
@stekarenhd6911 Рік тому
Seems like nobody showed the Hungary hard tires this video
@marekbuhla6729 Рік тому
One problem is that you are looking on tyres as HARD/MEDIUM/SOFT but you should look and analyze compounds from C1-C5... And a problem is that C1 is not working for anyone, we had 3 racers where we had C1 but in all of those races everyone forbid them as they are not working at all.. Slightly difference is Silverstone but i think they didnt work there either and fastest strategy was 2stop C3/C2/C2 or C2/C3 (like Perez did)... On the other side C5 tyres are so soft that they last 3 laps and then they are so slow.. C2 and C3 are lasting so long and working for everyone and even if in Silverstone you can do 75% of the race on C2 and still be fast then there is something wrong..
@PlaySA Рік тому
I propose calling them Superhard, Hard, Medium, Soft, and Supersoft. Hard, Medium and Soft are the best tires this year, the C1 and the C5 seem pretty much useless.
@marekbuhla6729 Рік тому
@@PlaySA yes exactly.. C5 are good atleast for some good quali but C1 are so useless.. i think that C2 is superior to others.. Full length in australia (Albon) almost full length in Silverstone (Perez even told in radio that he can go till the end) .. they are fast and long lasting even on circuits where should be high tyre degradation ..
@grahamduensing121 Рік тому
Even with all the madness I still wouldn't change a single bit about how this season is going.
@helloitsme3940 Рік тому
Hope your YT ACC. Wont get hacked again cuz u are making great vids every time
@aldistapm2518 Рік тому
What happened?
@jacoobk Рік тому
@@aldistapm2518 they got hacked by some crypto scam for an hour or so but it's fine now
@Sitania Рік тому
I'm looking forward to no tyre blankets. Driver skill in terms of getting tyres into the working zone AND managing them will add a lot as a spectator I think
@amielterence Рік тому
Basically gonna be like driving in the rain for the first 2-3 laps after you change tyres😂. Which really limits the cars, which will produce better racing - hopefully. Might see more driver errors tho.
@adedhuman9582 Рік тому
It would likely be a safety hazard lol
@bakedbeings Рік тому
You might not be able to throw on softs and immediately pass cars.
@benfulford3943 Рік тому
It will be really interesting from a driver skill point of view but I do think we'll lose something from a strategy point of view. I'm hoping to be proven wrong and I expect it'll create a whole new strategy but I've always enjoyed the undercut as a strategy (I guess that's cos of how long I've been watching the sport and back in the day pre DRS it was the only way to overtake)
@doppelpunkt Рік тому
it will favor the overcut, which means preserving the tyres will be more important.
@Cr4v1nDys Рік тому
I'm curious and maybe you want to make a video out of it... What is your take as a professional racing driver on the "F1 Driving Standard Guidelines" released by the FIA in Imola this year? Especially considering overtakes on the inside of a corner namely Vettel/Schumacher in Miami a few months ago, Russell/Perez now in France and (what many also compare it to) Verstappen/Hamilton in the first lap of the final race in Abu Dhabi 2021. [I tried to provide a direct link to the FIA-document but the youtube comment section just butchers it. So you would need to google it yourself.]
@thommyrubin1866 Рік тому
What are the tyres filled with? Can you use Helium?
@aleksandarpantic8450 3 місяці тому
Question why did the teams use the mediums at the start instead of the softs
@ScottishThings Рік тому
Looks like this shall be getting very tight if u go back in a f1 car. Getting the chunk on lol
@tankbuster84 Рік тому
I feel that starting on red to gain as many positions as you can than switching to white is a better option.
@adm7508 Рік тому
I just wish more teams would do like Mclaren and Alfa Romeo and put some design on the rims, rather than just the black. Feel like it would add more to the livery.
@snack711 Рік тому
smooth transition to todays sponsor 👌
@mrdraw2087 Рік тому
These new cars have less downforce than the previous ones, which makes them wear out their tires faster. So, even though the tires have become harder, tire wear has increased it seems. Drivers are no longer required to start on their qualifying tires, which is the main reason the harder tire-compounds are favored in the race now. The soft tire is usually the weakest tire in the race, so until last year the top teams usually tried to qualify on the medium tire. The hard tire can be pushed much harder, so it indeed ends up being outright quicker than the soft tire. The tire deltas Pirelli shows before the start of every race are incredibly misleading.
@thommyrubin1866 Рік тому
I'd like for competitors to Pirelli to enter F1. Like Michelin, Good Year, Bridgestone or someone else. Two or tree tyre manufacturers competing in F1.
@Grooove_e Рік тому
New tire, new weird Pirelli shenanigans. They never fully "got a grip" on the old size, who knows if the teams will ever come close to fully understanding these new tires
@theunexpectedjaz9100 Рік тому
So now soft tires are quali tire, and mediums and hards are race tires?
@WaVe54556 Рік тому
The Pirelli tyres this season have been the best in years, hopefully this leads to a very close championship
@dbmiller5881 Рік тому
One thing I find misleading / confusing about tire discussions is it insinuates there are only 3 compounds to choose from, when in fact there are 5. Taking the C3 - one week it can be the "hard" compound / the next week it can be the full "soft" - depending on the range they select. Or am I misunderstanding this?
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Рік тому
There's only ever been 3 compounds to choose from a weekend since about 2017 before that it was 2 tire compounds And the reason for the confusion in how the hard tires one week can become the soft tires is the FIA decided to 'simplify' the tires colouring system for 2019 Before 2019 you had different colours for the: hypersoft ultrasoft supersoft soft medium hard superhard tires After 2019 the superhard and I think the hard got dropped and we had the C1 to C5 system when C1 was the hardest tire and C5 the softest and the current colour system of white for hardest tires used yellow for the medium tires used and red for the softest tires used. Basically by FIA trying to be make it more simple they made it more confusing imo lol
@PlaySA Рік тому
No you have it right. IMO they should be called the Superhard, Hard, Medium, Soft, and Supersoft. This year the mid range is clearly the best, ie C2-C4 or Hard, Medium and Soft. The C5 Supersoft is useless, gets busted after three laps and the Superhard is way too firm and has no grip.
@vercingetorix5708 Рік тому
Last year the medium was almost too powerful. It was obvious if they were allowed to, the teams would have run only mediums during the races. This year it seems the mediums are significantly less reliable than the heads but much slower than the softs.
@09csr Рік тому
There is a fallacy in this video (and that logic) though: there is no medium tyre. There is no one set of mediums. Just as last year there are multiple compound of the C1 and onward which can be a "medium" option for a given race, and they all have pretty different properties.
@timothybogle1461 Рік тому
I would love to see Pirelli mix up the tyres like they did in Australia and not have them in order. IIRC they used the C2 as hard, the C3 as medium and the C5 as soft. Run a race with the C1 as hard, the C3 as medium and the C5 as soft. That will make the teams think.
@kambibolong4906 Рік тому
It's actually not bad that the tires this year are like that.all the races have been entertaining.
@markscarborough1018 Рік тому
Great channel - thank you for such good content, far more interesting than the Sky Sports soap opera! I have one question about the wheels and tyres that keeps bugging me and would really appreciate your thoughts, so much has been discussed about the new aero causing porpoising and struggles with the hard ride, but what affect does the larger wheel / lower profile tyre (along with the revised suspension) have on all this? It would have been interesting to see how the new aero rules would have worked with the old 13" wheel setup, but with them both being changed at the same time, it's impossible to tell. Could you or Scarbs (great name) offer any insight into this?
@lucianSom Рік тому
that mercedes explanation makes sense why we keep hearing lewis say "tires are good" all the time
@invalidalkri Рік тому
I think hard more favorable because alex albon using "hard" (because i forget type c compound) at australia almost in full race...
@bertram-raven Рік тому
Putting a heat cycle in a set of tyres is being modelled in sim racing, ACC in particular.
@damienchambers3302 Рік тому
What would the difference in time be if they ran last year's tyres?
@christopherjefferson3561 Рік тому
I say we go back to the Goodyears of 1990 where they went the whole race distance.that’ll slow them down.
@filippoguzzabocca7411 Рік тому
Pirelli tyres have an “unexpected” behaviour also in F2!
@larrymats Рік тому
It's so weird that some race can be 3 stoppers while some driver just pitted on the last lap.
@bakedbeings Рік тому
It feels like the selection of C grades for each race has been a little off for the tracks. Not a huge surprise though, given the new size/shape and variation in downforce.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Рік тому
@@bakedbeings for sure Pirelli have definitely been Conservative with thier tires and also what tires they've brought to some tracks
@roberthatley7415 Рік тому
Good video BUT I’m really disappointed that you guys missed the opportunity to discuss how there is actually 5 different compounds of tires meaning one weeks softs could be the next weeks hards…. Why not bring that up??
@damiendegrasse8673 Рік тому
The hard tires can be multiple different compounds, I find that to be an annoying oversimplification, I much prefer when they are all called what they are.
@tipnoel Рік тому
Because we have 5 (?) different compounds, each tire, whether soft, medium or hard can be 3 different compound depending on the weekend. So at the end of the day it's not that different from the old, more detailed "rainbow" tire markings.
@alan_davis Рік тому
You can always look up the compound "C" numbers in use for the weekend. It's to simplify it for the less technical fans.
@tr4nnel752 Рік тому
It should have been addressed in this video.. kind of frustrating
@PlaySA Рік тому
@@tr4nnel752 Yes it should've. I call them Superhard, Hard, Medium, Soft, Supersoft which makes perfect sense to me.
@DaniMacYo Рік тому
Oh the Scarbsmeister!
@DavidvanDeijk Рік тому
This video really sounds different after the failed hard tyre strat of LeClerc in hungary
@justanormalperson5391 Рік тому
hards have been unbelievable all year long, but hungary was very confusing. in practice, they were very slow compared to mediums and softs. on sunday, track and air temperature was very low. but hards all year were quicker than mediums. baku was a great example. ricciardo was p12 behind lando(p11). daniel started on hards and so much quicker than the drivers around him. his pace compared to lando declined due to deg on the mediums
@GamingworldPalestine Рік тому
Your gonna reach 1mil lessss goooo
@Driver61 Рік тому
Hopefully soon!
@someonesch4361 Рік тому
So this is the video that Ferrari strategists watched before Hungary😅
@traffictraffic Рік тому
I would like to know why some of these changes took place. Like why did they decide to change the tire warmer temperatures from 100 degrees to 70 degrees.
@PlaySA Рік тому
I think I remember hearing that tire warmers are going to be eliminated completely in future rulesets. So this is probably a step in that direction, to get teams to rely on them less and drivers used to coming out with colder tires.
@Patrik2166 Рік тому
In Spa when teams pit in the last 20 or so laps me be like "Time for some softs and some action" but no. Hards... I have questioned my decision 🤔
@theallmightyfish3027 Рік тому
Honestly, this season has had some of the most consistent racing I’ve ever seen. While in other seasons there wouldn’t be too many fights for race winner or podium, there have been plenty this season and pretty much every race. I really think the 2022 regulations have done a great job for the sport.
@bernardomotard Рік тому
Now we just need real engines again.
@theallmightyfish3027 Рік тому
@@bernardomotard yeah, V12-10-8 were magical, hearing an engine rev up to almost 20k rpm was an outerworld experience.
@TheMisterpino Рік тому
Pirelli has gotten tons of critique over the last couple of years (and rightfully so) but it's nice to see some positive news about them now :)
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168 Рік тому
Aston have been doing this after turkey last where seb pitted for a fresh medium but because they couldn't get rid of the shine , the tyre just switching on and as a result seb was sliding to moon.
@bourkey07 Рік тому
I think Ferrari must have watched this video before the Hungarian GP.
@southernpride494 Рік тому
Love your channel 61, watching from the states. Thanks for the hard work!
@Nr1GamerGringo Рік тому
i think that perelli should either remove the hard compound so that thrue C1-C5 would only bring 2 compounds to the weekend
@bozhidardimitrov3573 Рік тому
how will you have ferrari do their trash strategies by choosing the worst tyre then :DDD
@The_ZeroLine Рік тому
The high degradation tires formula were as responsible for dirty air/sensitive downforce. The best racing I have ever seen has always been on tires you could push really hard during the entire stint.
@DaniMacYo Рік тому
I noticed this in the F1 game believe it or not. I was faster than the Ai with mediums vs their softs. Then when I went softs and they had mediums they were faster than me. Even the hards performed well. Interesting….
@eilois Рік тому
nah it's just Pirelli wrong choice at compound. there's several compound available that used until 2018: Hyper Ultra Supersoft, Medium, Hard, Super Hard. these 7 or 5 compounds C1 C2 ... C5 are later selected by Pirelli into three simplified categories of Soft-Hard Medium. That could be C1-C2-C3, or C3-C4-C5. The Hard tyres of previous race could be the soft for next race.
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