"Time isn't your enemy- forever is." dontcrydontcrydontcry ...;_;

It's frikkin painful that this game wasn't the template for future RPGs.

This is probably the best game ever made. I absolutely love this ending, and the last minutes with your party, it's both bitter and sweet at the same time and extremely satisfying. Every time I play Grace's words really get to me, that last conversation with her just brings a little bit of hope into the mix.

Direct quote from TNO "If there is anything I have learned in my travels across the Planes, it is that many things may change the nature of a man. Whether regret, or love, or revenge or fear - whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. I’ve seen belief move cities, make men stave off death, and turn an evil hag's heart half-circle. This entire Fortress has been constructed from belief. Belief damned a woman, whose heart clung to the hope that another loved her when he did not.

What stuck me most, is that actual ending is sculped right at the start, and final battle takes place at the begining. You are being foretold by your deceased love about everything, you only have to choose means on how to get there. Flashback story, sense of inevitable end and amazing art that holds against curse of time are traits of this masterpiece. Play it if you didn't, and prepare to be amazed. "I shall wait for you in the death halls; my love"

"I couldn't carry any more so I had to drop it."

:'( :'( :'( Time is not your enemy. Forever is.

That is the last time The Nameless one updated his journal . . .

And that's the story of how the nameless one came to curb stomp the blood war

The sheer awesomeness of the final scene in Baator is beyond comprehension.

Endure, and in enduring grow stronger.

And Fall from Grace will go and look for you. This might seem a quite sad ending, but There is yet hope for the Nameless One.

Depending on your actions and how you've developed your TNO, you will have different options that lead to failure or success depending on that history. Do you know the secret language of Uyo and its significance? Did you find the sounding stone? The blade of the immortal? You can possibly end up convincing, threatening, mentally controlling, suicide or fighting your way out of the end. How you can even compare this ending as on par with ME3's "the ending has a different color" is beyond me.

Who is everyone's favorite party member character? Mine is Dak'kon. He has the best back story in my opinion and has the best ending as well. When you find out he had been there before with TNO and (if you're alignment is good) tells you that you are a better person than your previous incarnation is just epic.

Nameless One arrives in Baator: ""I feel stronger" attacks the first demon in sight: "I'm goin'" realizes his normal axe can't harm demons, and he left Dak'kon back in the Fortress: "Mine's not working on this thing!" the demon tears off his head "I couldn't carry any more so I had to drop it." his headless body is then cast upon a heap of corpses "Updated my journal."

"Time is not your enemy, forever is".

This part of the story springs from one of the three cornerstone principles of the Planescape setting: the Unity of Rings. It states that everything has a tendency to come back to its starting point, both physically and metaphorically. The other two principles are the Rule-Of-Three, which is discussed briefly in-game and which is exactly what it sounds like, and the Center of All, which argues that for any subject, the multiverse centers on *them*. The last one isn't really played up in-game.

This music gives me goosebumps instantly every time I hear it.

I am in tears, love love this ending!! Thank you

YOU ARE UNWELCOME HERE, BROKEN ONE

This game changed my life.

"Time is not your enemy. Forever is. Should I make it to old age, this quote will still be in mind.

Fall from Grace is more romantic than Annah xD, I was able to kiss Annah but the final conversation is the same as yours D:. Instead of Fall from Grace i had, sadly, Vhailor lol... . Fall from Grace is now one of my favourite.

4:07 - As much as I love the ending, I hated that they made Fall-from-Grace seem like TNO's love interest, especially if the player romances Annah.

One suggestion for videos like this in the future - hold off progressing dialogue a bit longer. I'm a swift reader, but had to pause regularly just to read the shortest lines. E: didn't realize this was uploaded ten years ago, but you get the point :)

Sorry to disappoint you, but this game was made by Black Isle, not Bioware.

Funnily enough, I also thought of PS:T's ending when I saw ME3's one. But the difference is, in PS:T you got all important things answered, there were no plot holes, no threads left dangling. The issues with your companions were resolved and there was a great sense of closure at the end. You got everything you deserved to get, considering how you played. ME3's ending was a mess and utterly unsatisfactory. And too bad, because the game up until then was quite nice.

I think he has already accepted everything that he is and has done. Two things remain, then: reparations and, eventually, self forgiveness. Because he's going to need the latter if he intends to fulfill the former correctly, because he'll need to work from places OTHER than the Gray Wastes to do that. All the same, a few millennia in hell might still provide some much needed voluntary soul cleansing first. Hm... but he did say that time works differently in hell, so maybe he'll get to meet his companions in the meanwhile. Well, the ones who would both still be alive, or "alive", and WANT to make the trip for him anyway. Considering what the Wastes of Hades do to people, especially long-term visitors who came alone, he's going to need them.

Just finished the game Fall from Grace is now one of my favorite characters, love her :)

Not all games have to have a golden ending. This fits with the narrative and themes presented in this fantastic game. In other words, it fits. Play the game, then come back and tell me this isn't a good game because of the ending.

I like to think the nameless one fought his way out of the blood war

The "best" ending would actually be using the Bronze Sphere to recover the first incarnation's memories and then using your true name to reabsorb The Transcendent One. This method doesn't allow The Nameless One to recover his original memories.

Bear in mind that many of the fans of Planescape Torment also hated Mass Effect 3's ending, and with good reason. People were unhappy with ME3's ending because the player was robbed of control of the protagonist. We were given the opportunity to play therapist to an insane AI, but we weren't allowed to play therapist to an insane AI. The two endings are polar opposites of storytelling.

They should make this game into a tv series.

Grown men ok to cry: -When you grant Dak'kon his freedom, and immediately go to hell.

Once, it made a man seek immortality and achieve it. And it has made a posturing spirit think it is something more than a part of me."

i understand your feelings. Sometimes when things get bad for me, I tend to repeat *endure, in enduring, grow strong*. Lol.

@FIRINM4L4Z0RS: If you don't have any qualms with playing dated games then you should definitely get this one. IMHO this is by far one of the best crafted RPGs to have ever been made for PC.

- What is the point of a second Planescape: Torment if the Nameless One found his mortality and went to the Blood War to get himself killed?

Still as stunning as it was all those years ago.

We are going to need another Tony Jay tough.

epic ending epic game this game will never be forgotten

@Glaruf There's just something about his voice. It's probably meant to be stoic and meditatie and all that good karmic stuff, but it comes off as if he's thinking, "I'd rather be doing a thousand other things right now." I think it's more of the tone itself. But cool connection with Captain Zapp, didn't consider it like that before!

Well the thing is that the voice acting if done right can add to athmosphere of the game.

Its very hard for any game to get on par with planescape story...the ending of ME seemed rushed to me and many people hate it because shepard died at the end. Torment prepares you to die all the time because youre actualy looking for a way to die...and after finding a out youre still shown marching to battle at the end...what can beat that:D

belief can change the nature of a man :)

@whitetrashoutlaw do you? I think only the bronze sphere is necessary + asking the good incarnation the right question. you may be right though, I've always finished with quite high wisdom, as this gives you best dialogue options

Thank you for uploading this, I spent so long on this game only to find out that the final level was bugged to the point where you couldn't get the ending. I feel kind of cheated, but this helps. (Also why didn't TNO tell Dakkon about the circle? I was kind of hoping he would ease his mind)

@xRH84x I didn't do all the sidequests but I did every one that I ran into. It all boiled down to about 25-30 hours.

Did Tony Jay even remember how many times he played an eldritch being

@bluedeath87 either by remebering your name (from the bronze sphere that you've found for pharod), threathening him with golem blade, or really high intelligence & wisdom

I don't recall ever claiming that you agree with me. Too bad that you don't, but I predicted that the Mass Relays would be used as a weapon ever since the first game, and many others predicted the interference of a god-like creator of the Reapers at the very same time. Seeing that the elements were that easy to foresee, they fit the information that was available very well. I had actually expected a bigger surprise, considering how out of left field some of Bioware's endings come.

Only way this brilliant hybrid of literature and gaming could be improved is by allowing you to keep every party member and let them all go at the end. In my view Dak'kon and The Nameless One separated not only as Master and Slave, but as friends with mutual respect for to *know* oneself you must sometimes go by yourself, without aid or guidance.

Planescape Torment doesn't inevitably end in the protagonist's death. Mass Effect 3's ending only compares to that of Planescape Torment in that they both had a golden opportunity to argue with the antagonist. Unfortunately, Casey and Mac squandered that opportunity in favor of pseudo-artistic nonsense.

@Cryos737 Actually, a few weeks ago I decided to give it another go. I got addicted. I beat the game just minutes ago and I can tell you that this game is art and one of my favorite games of all time. I dont think Ill ever forget this saying: What can change the nature of a man?

@Slydefy oh, there was time when games took 30 hours without sidequests, hundreds with them. the memories...

if the Baldurs gate enhanced editions sell well its a strong possibility it will get the same treatment

It don't get real until the MC starts using capslock like a madman!

@dtr19 Mine was Annah, but I agree that Dak'kon was the most fleshed out of them all. I guess I just felt more attached to Annah than to all the other characters, and that's in part thanks (but not limited) to her awesome dub. The sort of irish accent was truly fitting of her character. Morte deserves a special mention, though. He really helped liven up an otherwise grimdark setting that P:T had going without going overboard. All in all, there is no single character I dislike in the game.

Phew finally! Took some twists and turns and NOTs * KNOTs? Never wishing for anything ever again.

Combat magic was so good, time to practice on some more targets.

That last conversation with Grace is probably the most romantic moment i encountered in video games - and this game doesn't even have proper (in the modern sense) romances to begin with.

I'd rather just not surrender to him, keep my immortality and be a general all round badass but different points of view I guess.

Another thing: why Nameless One start to remember with this last incarntion? I finished the game several times and tried all the dialogue and all the possible endings, but I still have these doubts I mentioned. What do you think about? I wrote these things on various videos, I apologize but I'm really curious to know what you think...

Just a casual stroll down into the Blood War, no big deal.

@dejvo0 Also WAY better ending because of the part when you get your name again too. It is just hard because you have to have a pretty high charisma and intelligence in order to get the different parts of you to reunite with you.

Is that Tony Jay!? Awesome.

too bad you missed so much in the conversation with TO he has much to tell. btw you don't need the blade to reunite with TO. if you remember your name u can also force him to reunite

By the time she find him he would probably had carved out a small empire for himself in Baator.

*insert a sad version of Komm, Süsser Todd*

Ending bugs for me, when ressurecting morte he gives me the very first dialogue in the game, the mortuary dialogue,it's very strange

@damianGray I actually purchased it a while ago. I played it for a while, and then I just kinda drifted away. I like playing the classics, Iv beaten Fallout 1 3 times. I should really give it another try. However, I got Arcanum and Im lovin that.

well, how can you be sure he would be in baator? A man such as him, having experienced all paths of alignment would likely not lean toward chaotic evil or lawful evil forces in the war, more likely he is to forge his own path, its hard to tell how he will proceed but no matter what he does he is far greater than all of the powers and even lady of pain herself....god i wish there was some way to find out :(

"LAST WEILDER OF THE KARACH BLADE" boy, OG Torment had some bad typos, lol

Just beat the game. I am glad I got the best ending.

Wait a second, if you revive your companions at the end shouldn't Vhailor then come back to life for real, instead of just coming back to "ghost life"?

TONY JAY!!!!

Best ending is becoming the Silent King.

Seriously, people complaining about the Mass Effect 3 ending because 'Shepard dies' clearly were in diapers when this game was released. I just finally decided to sit down and finish Torment, and the first thing I thought was 'Damn, I guess at one point Bioware did know how to write a decent ending'. The exposition is there, there's an emotional hook, and a great and fitting conclusion. If only games nowadays could end like this.

So is he ended up in the first layer of gray waste? I mean those fights, i'm just assuming its the blood war, it might be the acheron plane though, since i can't rly make up the races that fighting.

I thought of a better Ending/Beginning. (You must gather your Party before venturing Forth)

Correction: it's opaquely hinted that Shepard *might* live in one of the endings.

@xRH84x Really wasn't that hard once i got the hang of it, spacebar helped ;) I also didn't do all the sidequests and it took me pretty much just as long, maybe a little longer.

Dak'kon is my favourite character.

It's funny how people say that ME3 made no sense, considering that many people, including myself, predicted great chunks of it as early as when ME1 came out. It wasn't a huge twist at all, and fit perfectly with my expectations. The only thing that I was left missing was a couple of sadistic choices. People who insist on lack of internal consistency never got the Mass Effect franchise in the first place.

I really love this game (surely one of the best rpg ever made, maybe the best) but the ending is not satisfied me at all. It left me a feeling of slight indecisiveness. Just for example, which incarnation taught the art to Ignus? But above all I thought I could finish the relationship with my classmates in a more comprehensive way, as with Annah for example. Also who was the first incarnation? The last true magician? A commander in the bloody war? Both things?

Or the Abyss...if possible

I only saw four companions! Where was Nordom? For the BEST, nearest-to-perfect ending surely you need to take companions who you don't end up killing before the final showdown at the very least?

What is that final battle in the last cinematic though? I didn't understand that part.

I have insight into the human condition because of this game.

Oh dear where will we find another Tony Jay?

The ending had to go through quick revision, which is why it was originally published in a clearly unfinished state, but it was for the better by a long shot. The stupidity that was the "Dark Energy"-ending was thankfully wiped out like it never existed, as it would have destroyed the franchise for all time (Mass Effect without mass effect? Yeah.). The actual ending fortunately fixed the matter, and contains a promise of future games to come.

...But he basically sits forever in that chair, doing pretty much nothing. And eventually goes insane. And STILL sits in that chair. That kind of sucks.

Tony Jay!!!

The endings would have been connected with the alignment system and would each present a different ending to the question (which else? :D) "What can change the nature of a man?". In the EVIL ending (this one) its - nothing, that's why TNO is send in the Blood War - if nothing can change the nature of a man - the evils he has done - he cant achieve redemption. The NEUTRAL ending would have left him in the Blood War again, while in the GOOD he would have achieved the True Death.

Nameless > Abdel Adrian > Hero of Icewind Dale. I love Icewind Dale as a game but holy shit the protagonists in Baldurs Gate and Torment are literally just God's.

Its any chance do not go in Low Plane (Blood war)?

what is the true nature of a man? sadistic killer with no heart and icy blood

how do you convince?