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In this special edition of The Telegraph’s Ukraine: The Latest podcast, the team appeared on stage at the US Embassy in London for a live recording.
Jane Hartley, America’s ambassador to the UK opened the event, saying: “The United States and our allies continue to have one goal in mind: to see that Ukraine wins this war.”
Telegraph journalists David Knowles, Francis Dearnley and Dominic Nicholls were joined by Orysia Lutsevych, the head of the Ukraine forum at Chatham House and Ambassador William B. Taylor, America’s former ambassador to Ukraine and current vice president, Europe and Russia, at the US Institute of Peace.
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@andyay9079
@andyay9079 2 місяці тому
Something from the podcast I feel bears repeating; "With every inch of land that Ukraine loses, Russia becomes less of Ukraine's problem and more of a global problem".
@Writeous0ne
@Writeous0ne 2 місяці тому
I don't agree with that narrative at all... it's based on the idea that Russias goals are to conquer Europe which in itself is a baseless claim. If anybody has paid attention since the 2007 Munich speech they know the real reasons that Putin invaded Ukraine are not ideas of expansions and conquering Europe. Even Putin critics say that when he speaks he is sincere... and by that i mean he is not lying about his reasons for the conflict, there is no hidden motive of conquering Europe, it's about NATO expansion, Russian ethnics and fighting back against the US led NATO containment policies.
@GeorgE-yo5yc
@GeorgE-yo5yc 2 місяці тому
"A lie repeated thousands times becomes the truth"
@V-for-Vendetta
@V-for-Vendetta 2 місяці тому
An absolutely unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine. Absolutely unprovoked! In 2014, an illegal, unconstitutional coup d'etat took place in Ukraine, with the support of Europe and the United States. It's so democratic. Several regions of Ukraine do not agree with this coup d'etat; they are beginning to resist the invaders, who for some reason are supported by Europe and the USA. Is this democracy? A civil war begins. After 8 years, Russia intervenes in this conflict to stop the civil war in Ukraine. Europe and the United States are beginning to overwhelm Ukraine with their weapons. Who is to blame here? Hint: Russia. What was the invasion? Hint - Absolutely not provoked by either Europe or the USA.
@georgemcbride7857
@georgemcbride7857 2 місяці тому
@@GeorgE-yo5yc Slava Ukrani
@GeorgE-yo5yc
@GeorgE-yo5yc 2 місяці тому
@@georgemcbride7857 Slava Cokaini!
@BaronEvola123
@BaronEvola123 2 місяці тому
They can't be serious. On this very day Avdiivka has fallen. It was the most defended city in The Ukraine and held on for 9 years and was used as an artillery fire station to shell the city of Donetsk that whole time. What are these people even talking about?
@commandingjudgedredd1841
@commandingjudgedredd1841 2 місяці тому
They're talking romanticised BS. Which requires us to pour more of our hard earned money into a hopeless situation.
@user-jp6jn1oe6e
@user-jp6jn1oe6e 2 місяці тому
It’s sheer propaganda.
@danielbecker4365
@danielbecker4365 2 місяці тому
@@commandingjudgedredd1841 We are paying to employed those nuts?
@josegeraldocordeiroalves9997
@josegeraldocordeiroalves9997 2 місяці тому
Palestina e Rússia livres.
@GroveErasmus
@GroveErasmus 2 місяці тому
Just got to show the hubris and issue lack of respect for the rights of others.
@anandawijesinghe6298
@anandawijesinghe6298 2 місяці тому
NATO's plot against Russia has unravelled ! Former Colonialists in NATO in PANIC !😱!
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
If there is any plot, it should be against the Muscovites (who masquerade as Russ), and not the rest of Eurasia, who could care less about them.
@belphegor9161
@belphegor9161 2 місяці тому
'Putin can still be crushed' - seems to be the most popular song among the Western so called leaders for the last 24 years. "Sweet dreams are made of this..." - remember this one?
@asmodean7239
@asmodean7239 2 місяці тому
West will fall to socialist revolution - Stalin 1930.
@simianessence
@simianessence 2 місяці тому
And the loser Russian empire (a.k.a. the Soviet Union's socialist "paradise") fell apart in 1991 while the West went from strength to strength. @@asmodean7239
@ericfromeng
@ericfromeng 2 місяці тому
@@asmodean7239 to be fair, communism has never been bigger in those regions. So, still could be true. Putin is surely going to die of old age before the West gets a chance to "crush" him lol
@ianinkster2261
@ianinkster2261 2 місяці тому
"Sweet dreams are made of this..." - remember this one? Ah, 1991.
@duellingscarguevara
@duellingscarguevara 2 місяці тому
He was supposed to be a sober Yeltsin?😅..anyhoo, go Boris, (he has gone green t-shirt too?).
@camstratford3633
@camstratford3633 2 місяці тому
Is this a joke? Get Scott Ritter or Douglas MacGregor on the panel, they have something different to say
@bobmcnelis3648
@bobmcnelis3648 2 місяці тому
The pedophile and the failure? They are both sensationalists, who are seeking attention!
@Russianbot101
@Russianbot101 2 місяці тому
And they will spit facts, unlike these muppets
@gmw3083
@gmw3083 2 місяці тому
Neither of them exist in the telegraphs universe..
@anthonycook6613
@anthonycook6613 2 місяці тому
We'll take this comment a bit more seriously when Novaya Gazeta or RIA Novosti feature retired Russian government officials who hate Putin, who are loved in the West, and who are known for spreading Russophobic misinformation. Of course, they won't do that. It would be stupid. And this is exactly why The Telegraph doesn't feature Ritter and MacGregor; both retired officials, known for spreading anti-Western misinformation, and loved by the enemy.
@littleboykerch7168
@littleboykerch7168 2 місяці тому
Ritter and MacGregor are Facists
@alexkazz1368
@alexkazz1368 2 місяці тому
I can't even describe how fake and plastic their speeches feel to me. I am convinced that these people are committing crime against Ukrainian nation by tricking into this hopeless war against a Nuclear Superpower. This whole panel must be prosecuted and held accountable for what they do!
@wildchameleon2515
@wildchameleon2515 2 місяці тому
Thanks for the comment vatnik
@Thisthatother
@Thisthatother 2 місяці тому
The title alone is proof positive that the west has lost it's way. Winning a war by proxy is more important than doing what was right for Ukrainians of all allegiances (honoring Minsk2). My wife is Ukrainian, low and behold she wants nothing to do with all that our leaders in the west are selling. She grew up in eastern Ukraine and sees this for what it is, a coup staged by Nuland and friends to weaken Russia only to have it boomerang right back on the west. That the whole commentariat is so morally obtuse and lacks historical context is even more baffling. I hail from Chile where the US pulled another regime change (on 9/11 no less, 1973 however). The western governments care nothing for helping people in need, they wouldn't let Gaza be incinerated if they did, they care only for PR wins and posturing to be holier than thou when in reality we do only that which enriches us at the detriment of other nations. Leaving behind nations in ruin and millions exiled. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Chile, Myanmar/Burma, Vietnam, Japan, so on and so forth. It's sad that people still fall for the tried and true guise of manufactured consent. At some point one would think that folks would circle back, despite the predisposition to get bored and moving on to the next, and contrast and compare what was said from what came to pass to see we're constantly duped. WMDs... oh wait there are none. Assad must go... oh wait, we're still there occupying oil fields illegally. Russiagate... oh wait it was made up in a think tank to demonize Trump whilst spying on your own citizens without a court order. A lot of my wife's family members are on the front line, on the side that is on the right side of history. Not on the Bandera adulating crazies that lost their way. Sooner or later the dust will settle and people will forget to look back to see that it was all a sham to sell more weapons at the expense of all Ukrainians while their leaders enriched themselves. Disgusting behavior that we, citizens of the west, enable by believing at face value all the nonsense our media make up.
@simianessence
@simianessence 2 місяці тому
"The western governments care nothing for helping people in need". They care about Ukraine - but not enough. If they cared enough they'd give the Ukrainians the tools they need to expel the Russians from their land. Here's hoping their level of care increases going forward.
@user-iu3vd6ft5b
@user-iu3vd6ft5b 2 місяці тому
great comment
@tv-wm3od
@tv-wm3od 2 місяці тому
You`re completely right! Sad but true.
@vladimirkalashnikov2726
@vladimirkalashnikov2726 2 місяці тому
100% correct
@freebird7017
@freebird7017 2 місяці тому
Best comment
@theadventuresofnekosnowbal7285
@theadventuresofnekosnowbal7285 2 місяці тому
It was interesting seeing the faces behind Ukraine: The Latest for the first time after all these months.
@jeanadams1667
@jeanadams1667 2 місяці тому
I was surprised at how youthful the three of them appear. Very nice to put some faces on the familiar voices.
@hadrianlear1215
@hadrianlear1215 2 місяці тому
Same here
@Laika_57
@Laika_57 2 місяці тому
after 2 years of lying western media and NAFO shillbots are ready for reality check
@mastertoymaker5249
@mastertoymaker5249 2 місяці тому
And that David Knowles is a dead ringer for Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics.. Slava Ukraine!
@hedleythorne
@hedleythorne 2 місяці тому
I had the pleasure of a little online chat with Dom. Such a switched on individual and has a clear interpretation of every facet of the war.
@willc9580
@willc9580 2 місяці тому
Thu Zombie Russian Army of untrained convicts armed solely with shovels has managed to encircle thousands of Ukraine's best Western trained troops in Avdeevka. Dom is pure satire at this point
@factorybear5264
@factorybear5264 2 місяці тому
Don’t rub it in Willie Boy! It burns. ...Aaand It's Gone! Avdeevka has fallen! Let the Great Cope begin!!
@simianessence
@simianessence 2 місяці тому
The cope continues. What's needed is Western resolve to be maintained (and increased) until the potential victory is turned into an actual victory. Western resolve and willpower is the key ingredient in question at the moment. @@factorybear5264
@degol5692
@degol5692 2 місяці тому
It wasn't a fair fight, the Russians were armed with washing machines too.
@danielr82
@danielr82 2 місяці тому
@@factorybear5264 the "worlds second army" took 10 years to take a suburb apparantly defended by pensioners?
@golddigger8759
@golddigger8759 2 місяці тому
Catched a troll 😁
@miloslavdrtinabohemus2145
@miloslavdrtinabohemus2145 2 місяці тому
Remember Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan …
@chriswong9158
@chriswong9158 2 місяці тому
Henry Kissinger Quote: “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
@2girls1shovel
@2girls1shovel 2 місяці тому
"If we just throw some more money into this black hole surely something will change..."
@V-for-Vendetta
@V-for-Vendetta 2 місяці тому
Libya... Gaza... Illegal military bases in Syria...
@philipsudron
@philipsudron 2 місяці тому
I guess these are Boris Johnson's 'wilderness years.'
@truthseeker8581
@truthseeker8581 2 місяці тому
Never say never! There is no shortage of fools.
@gmw3083
@gmw3083 2 місяці тому
That must be a Churchill reference
@gmw3083
@gmw3083 2 місяці тому
If boris can make a comeback, that will be the bell tolling for what remains of the UK..
@DS9TREK
@DS9TREK 2 місяці тому
​@@gmw3083indeed it is
@V-for-Vendetta
@V-for-Vendetta 2 місяці тому
An absolutely unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine. Absolutely unprovoked! In 2014, an illegal, unconstitutional coup d'etat took place in Ukraine, with the support of Europe and the United States. It's so democratic. Several regions of Ukraine do not agree with this coup d'etat; they are beginning to resist the invaders, who for some reason are supported by Europe and the USA. Is this democracy? A civil war begins. After 8 years, Russia intervenes in this conflict to stop the civil war in Ukraine. Europe and the United States are beginning to overwhelm Ukraine with their weapons. Who is to blame here? Hint: Russia. What was the invasion? Hint - Absolutely not provoked by either Europe or the USA.
@snorungar70
@snorungar70 2 місяці тому
Ukrainians advance backwards russians retreat forwards?....
@user-db5te2vz2r
@user-db5te2vz2r 2 місяці тому
It's an upside down world.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
The Russians are not the only ones who can spout ridiculous propaganda...
@egoncorneliscallery9535
@egoncorneliscallery9535 2 місяці тому
So insightful to see an agreed biased set of fixed outcomes in a promo talk for war manufacturers.
@sickboy8682
@sickboy8682 2 місяці тому
Most sensible comment here. Kudos for seeing this for what it actually is.
@herrmannxxx
@herrmannxxx 2 місяці тому
Also when Putler interviewd Phucker Carlson he forgot to mention that Navalny was about to Expire !!!
@jaws392
@jaws392 2 місяці тому
Exactly! The only people who continue to support this war are the ones making big profits off of it.
@Mman.
@Mman. 2 місяці тому
@@herrmannxxxyou sound angry. Is it the news from Avdiivka??
@JohnHopkins-hn7hu
@JohnHopkins-hn7hu 2 місяці тому
Unfortunately, these sensible people have very little authority for/with our governments.
@robwalker4548
@robwalker4548 2 місяці тому
What aircraft? As far as I know no aircraft from the USA have been used yet. Missiles yes but then the supply was stopped.
@Supportaiml
@Supportaiml 2 місяці тому
i think she ment air defense
@trespasser121
@trespasser121 2 місяці тому
@@Supportaiml I think she read that correctly. It was the person who wrote the text that might have meant something else,
@PavolFilek
@PavolFilek 2 місяці тому
USA lost war 2008 - 2024, 3 - 4 trillions lost, 34 trliions dept. USA is gone. No army, no noavy, no weapons.
@sammenter1
@sammenter1 2 місяці тому
The US Ambassador to UK was referring to air defences to protect civilian infrastructure.
@PavolFilek
@PavolFilek 2 місяці тому
USA lost war, German economy at collaps, who will fund Ukraine war for next 3 - 5 years ? Germany without gas for economy ? NO. USA with 35 trilllions dept ? No. So Who ?@@sammenter1
@adf1814
@adf1814 2 місяці тому
Don’t interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake - Sun Tzu
@V-for-Vendetta
@V-for-Vendetta 2 місяці тому
An absolutely unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine. Absolutely unprovoked! In 2014, an illegal, unconstitutional coup d'etat took place in Ukraine, with the support of Europe and the United States. It's so democratic. Several regions of Ukraine do not agree with this coup d'etat; they are beginning to resist the invaders, who for some reason are supported by Europe and the USA. Is this democracy? A civil war begins. After 8 years, Russia intervenes in this conflict to stop the civil war in Ukraine. Europe and the United States are beginning to overwhelm Ukraine with their weapons. Who is to blame here? Hint: Russia. What was the invasion? Hint - Absolutely not provoked by either Europe or the USA.
@kenboyd0
@kenboyd0 2 місяці тому
It's hard for me to understand that this panel actually believe the lies they are spouting.
@truthseeker8581
@truthseeker8581 2 місяці тому
Indeed! But not at all surprising.
@christav7021
@christav7021 2 місяці тому
Rubbish. Peace talks needed immediately. Should have had it last year but Boris stopped it.
@martinnista4162
@martinnista4162 2 місяці тому
I am curious. Why should Russia suddenly stick to peace treaties?
@christav7021
@christav7021 2 місяці тому
@@martinnista4162 why would he not? Is it not better for everyone (apart from those making enormous amounts of money) ?
@martinnista4162
@martinnista4162 2 місяці тому
@@christav7021 Russia had already promised Ukraine in the Budapest Memorandum to preserve its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Since then there have been several attacks and russian history is full of broken promises and wars. In addition, Russia claims some of the most important economic Ukrainian areas for itself, without which Ukraine would hardly be able to survive and would have to be subsidized from abroad.
@christav7021
@christav7021 2 місяці тому
@@martinnista4162 NATO also promised there would be no expansion, what happened to that? Was there a coup in Maidan in 2014 orchestrated by the CIA? Is there currently an enormous push by Western Governments to bring down Putin and install a puppet more open to their one World Government 'democracy'? We are being trashed by the NWO. UK, Aus, Can, France etc. I stand with Putin, but above all else I stand for freedom and peace.
@pindapoy1596
@pindapoy1596 2 місяці тому
@christav7021 No peace talks are possible before the November elections in the US. Loss of face would be an enormous (and thus unacceptable) blow to one of the candidates.
@Samn3212
@Samn3212 2 місяці тому
Great show this one. The ambassador is a true American gentleman - so far removed from those Republicans who are blocking aid.
@ouchh35
@ouchh35 2 місяці тому
these people are living in a fantasy land
@cronos1.2_sqrt5.2
@cronos1.2_sqrt5.2 2 місяці тому
Unfortunately these fanasies are supporting the war, therefore contributing to more deaths.
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 2 місяці тому
"Dreams save us, dreams lifts us up and transforms us into something better"
@micaiahm1
@micaiahm1 2 місяці тому
This is why we’re losing. We’re in a fight with our head stuck through a portal into an alternate universe 😐
@user-sf9xk3uk1b
@user-sf9xk3uk1b 2 місяці тому
"losing what" Russia troll?
@brandonlance3601
@brandonlance3601 2 місяці тому
​@@user-sf9xk3uk1bthis is exactly what hes talking about.
@eioclementi1355
@eioclementi1355 2 місяці тому
@@user-sf9xk3uk1b the support, the funding and eventually everything else
@graemes52
@graemes52 2 місяці тому
Loosing 800,000 MEN @@user-sf9xk3uk1b
@CaptainMurika
@CaptainMurika 2 місяці тому
@@user-sf9xk3uk1b Well, if Ukraine is winning why do they need more funding?
@NeilFH
@NeilFH 2 місяці тому
the money laundry must be kept going
@chriswong9158
@chriswong9158 2 місяці тому
as Western Bank are the benefiters of the funds.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
@@chriswong9158Dumb and dumber.
@jozefciszewski2074
@jozefciszewski2074 2 місяці тому
If Russia takes the whole Ukraine in which case it may happen, zelensky's agreements mean nothing.
@ericp1139
@ericp1139 2 місяці тому
And the EU members who signed those agreements know that very well. It’s just an attempt to put on a brave face.
@pindapoy1596
@pindapoy1596 2 місяці тому
@jozefciszewski2074 I do not believe that Russia intends to occupy the whole of Ukraine and, I do not believe that Russia intends to go into the rest of the European countries. The reason is very simple. The Russians have no desire to be faced with popular uprisings and fight a permanent guerrilla war like many occupied European countries fought against the German army during World War II. Moreover it is said that Russia has hundreds of billions of unexploited resources and there is nothing to be found in Europe, no more minerals, no oil or gas, the industry is not productive anymore and even great scientists are no more living in Europe. Why would the Russians care to go fight and occupy Berlin, Paris or Madrid?
@peterpanini96
@peterpanini96 2 місяці тому
Ukrsine is better being russia than being ukraine... that's west opinion... even the polish are stealing ukranian ammo from their trucks. 😅 glory to democracy ukraine says they should say glory to russia.
@tbone4709
@tbone4709 2 місяці тому
The U.S. bank is closed. No more money for that corrupt country.
@chriswong9158
@chriswong9158 2 місяці тому
Like in the past and present, Russia will return to the Europe Model of control, "Cut the Pie" . Russia will take Eastern Ukraine and offer the Western Ukraine to others for peace. Ukraine will be no more.
@simianessence
@simianessence 2 місяці тому
"We should want Ukraine to take back all of its territory"??? The word that blows my mind in that statement by Francis is "should". For myself I would put it this way: 'I'm doing what I can to help Ukraine take back all of its territory.'
@betsm5842
@betsm5842 2 місяці тому
"All"
@2Dylandog
@2Dylandog 2 місяці тому
I quite fail to understand your point. If Russia is the aggressor of a weaker sovereign nation why is it not mandatory to want to expel all Russian forces from territory illegally occupied and annexed?
@betsm5842
@betsm5842 2 місяці тому
@@2Dylandog It has to go far beyond that too. They will need to pay vast reparations in future to Ukraine and probably lose Kaliningrad too. Speaking to russians in St Petersburg many have said they know it might and probably will happen. Any with money have sent a lot of it out to foreign banks.
@simianessence
@simianessence 2 місяці тому
@@2Dylandog "Should want" implies that there is some doubt, some uncertainty, something debatable perhaps, 🤔 something to discuss, some decision not yet made, whereas the way I've stated it assumes that all the doubts have been laid to rest, all the questions answered, all the decisions made and all the choices already chosen.
@Dumka78
@Dumka78 2 місяці тому
The Ukrainians are running away heroically, while the Russians cowardly chase them.
@MadDog-1961
@MadDog-1961 2 місяці тому
51:38 "Too much hand wringing and not enough responsibility" Brilliant!!!
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
@RyanBrown-nx8dw 2 місяці тому
Ur still losing🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MadDog-1961
@MadDog-1961 2 місяці тому
@@RyanBrown-nx8dw ~Your, there I fixed it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
@RyanBrown-nx8dw 2 місяці тому
@@MadDog-1961 hows ukraine doing dumb dumb?
@gmw3083
@gmw3083 2 місяці тому
The telegraph is all propwash. All the time.
@gmw3083
@gmw3083 2 місяці тому
Too many limp wrists like that guy need to get themselves to the frontline
@gangpw924
@gangpw924 2 місяці тому
America can be trusted and rely on...Afghanistan ring a bell
@natesnautical
@natesnautical 2 місяці тому
Yeah America just fled from Afghanistan....it will flee from Europe too...m
@pratheepanyogendran7220
@pratheepanyogendran7220 2 місяці тому
Afghans had a choice, to fight with however corrupt then government or live under Taliban. They made a choice. Ukraine wants to fight and I think they dont want to live under Putin so US might back them for the time being but nothing is guaranteed.
@moffig1
@moffig1 2 місяці тому
Id much rather trust America than Russia.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
Yeah, that statement was a stretch... 'America can be trusted'... not by people threatened by evil authoritarian regimes... and the problem is Continued Universal Human Cluelessness (which affects Americans, too).
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
@@moffig1a choice between soft evil (in America) and hard evil (in Russia).
@rcwlson1
@rcwlson1 2 місяці тому
Your team has greatly impressed me with your devotion to expanding the domain of truth into the public sphere.
@philipwoodgate9555
@philipwoodgate9555 2 місяці тому
I personally angry that Europe has not gotten together to organise more and more factories for munitions and weapons. Accelerating production in existing facilities does increase output, but in the end it has proven to not to be anywhere near enough. I do wonder if the saying that has done the rounds " we are helping Ukraine to fight, but not enough to win " is true and even possibly intentional.
@Kangenpower7
@Kangenpower7 2 місяці тому
I also wonder why Poland is so against the Ukraine truckers driving in Poland and all of Europe. Poland would be next door to Russia if Ukraine had fallen in the first weeks. And if President Trump had not sent in Javelin missiles to blow up all of those helicopters and tanks, Ukraine would have fallen in 10 days. Poland is the only country spending 3.8% of it's GDP on defense! I wonder why? Maybe they are the closest to Russia? And they did not like being ruled by Russia since it invaded in 1939?
@user-wx1gd9fs1k
@user-wx1gd9fs1k 2 місяці тому
lol. They have been in the US's pockets for years, free market economics and production, the US is the clear economic winner hear, destabilising the EU and middle east while their MIC is raking it in.
@kevinw4267
@kevinw4267 2 місяці тому
I am mad at my Congress haven’t passed bill for Ukraine Aid! We can all do better, letting our representatives know we stand for democracy
@linmal2242
@linmal2242 2 місяці тому
This is all Biden's fault. If, IF he was tough enough, or a big enough gambler, he could have given Pootin an ultimatum to 'get out now', or risk a U S involvement on ground ! Yes, yes he and the country is tired of mil adventures, but he could have been in there training, supplying, being more actively commited ! And ditto with pressure on the Euros !
@user-bi9jq8eu4j
@user-bi9jq8eu4j 2 місяці тому
Ukraine should have built them, if the conflict started a decade ago, its their problems and that of NATO bigwig US that pushed for the expansion of NATO to the russian borders. "Europe" is not NATO, let NATO-countries invest their own limited ressources on weapons with limited value if they want to. The weopons could arrive to late. America wasn`t prepared, ukraine wasn`t prepared, put blame on them. Ukrainians are already losing the will to fight, Now desperation sets in among anglos, as they realize that their plan to fight to the last ukrainian, and to let the rest of the world pay for it, will not work. Its a humiliating strategical defeat.
@Richard.West777
@Richard.West777 2 місяці тому
Pure delusion!! 💯
@Samn3212
@Samn3212 2 місяці тому
Be quiet Trumper, go and buy some MAGA merch made in China.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
There are delusions on both sides. In fact, most of humanity is delusional.
@elizabethfitzgibbon3908
@elizabethfitzgibbon3908 2 місяці тому
This talk has achieved nothing!
@captainahab9602
@captainahab9602 2 місяці тому
they treat this like harry potter and this is one of their conventions
@marklisa17
@marklisa17 2 місяці тому
Keep up the good work Times team. Great guests. Refreshing discussion. 😊
@user-mm6jj5hs6k
@user-mm6jj5hs6k 2 місяці тому
Lies And properganda don't win war
@alexkazz1368
@alexkazz1368 2 місяці тому
@OhYeah-qx9qn
@OhYeah-qx9qn 2 місяці тому
Putin disagrees
@Ravi9A
@Ravi9A 2 місяці тому
@@OhYeah-qx9qn putin relies on shovels.
@wodenstyr6553
@wodenstyr6553 2 місяці тому
"America stands up for freedom" she didn't even look convinced by that astronomical lie 😂
@markcreemore4915
@markcreemore4915 2 місяці тому
America doesn't stand for freedom anymore even in America
@scuba36fun
@scuba36fun 2 місяці тому
lol, what else this stupid girl can say
@lp3880
@lp3880 2 місяці тому
she just a conplete brainwashed puppet
@DanteLovesPizza
@DanteLovesPizza 2 місяці тому
Ironic, because Assange's freedom to report as a journalist seems to be non-existent to America.
@bony7363
@bony7363 2 місяці тому
An Empire? Is that why the US has so many military bases around the world. Isn't this a constant source of conflict? And how do we contain it?
@siukola1
@siukola1 2 місяці тому
This discussion seams like being in dreamland. But sometimes dreams come true.
@INDREAMSBEGINSRESPONSIBILITIES
@INDREAMSBEGINSRESPONSIBILITIES 2 місяці тому
In dreams begins responsibilities.
@henryvacal3544
@henryvacal3544 2 місяці тому
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@chuekaothao6329
@chuekaothao6329 2 місяці тому
not this dream, just wasting more of my taxes dollars.
@olegsdvizhkov8182
@olegsdvizhkov8182 2 місяці тому
Not this time, though.
@ricardojames2004
@ricardojames2004 2 місяці тому
No mention of Minsk 2 Accords,strange .
@truthseeker8581
@truthseeker8581 2 місяці тому
Indeed, as today Ukraine would have been sovreign, rich and free had Minsk accords been agreed!
@Burnsie
@Burnsie 2 місяці тому
Lol, kremlin bots talking to each other. 👆😂
@adielbenjudah1360
@adielbenjudah1360 2 місяці тому
Where is Boris Johnson and the Minsk Agreement? Avdiivka has fallen, just like Bahkmut...
@gavinmiller690
@gavinmiller690 2 місяці тому
Sleeping with your mum.
@janbarto6362
@janbarto6362 2 місяці тому
@@gavinmiller690And what about your dad ?
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
Two little suburbs. Ouch.
@atomicskistuntman6754
@atomicskistuntman6754 2 місяці тому
When did Daniel Radcliffe get into journalism?
@graemes52
@graemes52 2 місяці тому
Just after his mental breakdown.
@rajeeb3500
@rajeeb3500 2 місяці тому
He's a highly valued voice of reason 👍
@graemes52
@graemes52 2 місяці тому
He is a brainwashed articulate fool, in the real world, a peddler of the Globalists Satanic agenda. @@rajeeb3500
@jessehachey2732
@jessehachey2732 2 місяці тому
That a joke? Or for realz? 😂🤔
@chekeocha4923
@chekeocha4923 2 місяці тому
So now the tune changed to 'Still can be crushed?'
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
Ukraine just needs to hire the US Air Force for a day.
@ShimonDanilov
@ShimonDanilov 2 місяці тому
Although I agree with most of what was said, I think France being occupied by Russia during Napoleonic Wars is a weird.. well whatever that was. In case of Napoleonic Wars, it was France who attacked and Russia was occupied by it (Moscow was burned to the ground)
@widerje
@widerje 2 місяці тому
They never discuss the shelling of Donbas civilians by the Ukraine military. The areas that declared independence after the US backed the 2014 coup Why is that? Important to the reason for the war no?
@siukola1
@siukola1 2 місяці тому
The first country, which will have to leave the Security Council will be UK. It is now a quite weak, smaller middle power. UK could be replaced by India.
@bflmpsvz870
@bflmpsvz870 2 місяці тому
Hahaha british presstitutes are losing it.
@rosskelly8268
@rosskelly8268 2 місяці тому
Ah, smell the democracy and free speech! Most of my informed and erudite comments have been deleted. The irony is beautiful!
@kalinhristov3961
@kalinhristov3961 2 місяці тому
Probably they will remove mine too :)
@ConstructiveMinds100
@ConstructiveMinds100 2 місяці тому
1.40? With American air craft? 😵‍💫 I know they have been prommised 100 times and postponed 100 times. ... How much do they pay for reading?
@andyprior802
@andyprior802 2 місяці тому
Top session- & yes I now see the faces of the Podcast.
@rosevisionmacs
@rosevisionmacs 2 місяці тому
The Geneva convention must be updated to make it illegal to profit on insider trading from investing in military corporations. Russia is not the enemy. We have serious corruption in the USA and England does too.
@oleksandrbespalov9713
@oleksandrbespalov9713 2 місяці тому
Not the enemy, yeah. Remember Boston marathon? Golden fish brain.
@branthurley2285
@branthurley2285 2 місяці тому
No matter the company, Francis & Dom shine. Thanks to all for this super content.
@krazyswede11
@krazyswede11 2 місяці тому
😂😂😂 shine like 💩💩💩💩😂😂😂
@user-cs5bn6tu1f
@user-cs5bn6tu1f 2 місяці тому
Wasn't Iraq brutal and illegal invasion ? Lybia? 😅
@davidjohn8889
@davidjohn8889 2 місяці тому
What a load of old bollocks 😂
@butala1776
@butala1776 2 місяці тому
Did she say American aircraft? Maybe f-16s are already ukraine? That can explain the 6 russian planes that were shot down in the last 3 days
@user-iu3vd6ft5b
@user-iu3vd6ft5b 2 місяці тому
they only see their bruised ego they are willing to sacrifice human life in some ideoligical fantasy
@CrouchingShiba
@CrouchingShiba 2 місяці тому
I have never seen anyone who’s “winning” look so miserable.
@user-ku2rk3rl2o
@user-ku2rk3rl2o 2 місяці тому
Russia won valuable territory, the United States won hundreds of weapons contracts and Ukraine lost everything.
@reorioOrion
@reorioOrion 2 місяці тому
1:23:32 - 1:23:34 This lady just quoted Napoleon -) Oh yeah. Good luck 👍
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
Napoleon bungled it (he should have marched on St. Petersburg to go after the Czar). So did Hitler (he should have concentrated on Moscow and he should have started in the spring). The good people of the earth can learn from history (and crush Russia -- but even the word 'Russia' is a lie -- it is really made up of the evil Muscovites and everyone else (their victims).
@user-ql5kg5ek2h
@user-ql5kg5ek2h 2 місяці тому
The point that USA spent 0.25% of GDP fighting in Afghanistan vs. the Taliban vs "only" 0.19% currently supporting Ukraine in the fight against Russia was an interesting one. It speaks to what is the highest priority. There were certainly good arguments for spending $2trillion over the years in Afghanistan to TRY TO (though ultimately it failed on multiple fronts) defeat the Taliban and setup a democratic national government in a peaceful Afghanistan with fair and equal "western standard" treatment for women. However, seems to me from a NATO or EU perspective that preventing Mr. Putin's further territorial ambitions, especially in the "grey zones" like Moldova, Albania, Serbia or even the front line NATO states like Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and maybe even Finland would be a higher priority and therefore worth spending a higher % of GDP. Useful and interesting framing by Orysia Lutsevych.
@dwl3006
@dwl3006 2 місяці тому
Russia is not going to invade Serbia LOL and Albania is not a gray zone, it is a member of NATO.
@CaptainMurika
@CaptainMurika 2 місяці тому
We were fighting a war in Afghanistan. This is not a declared war. It is wrong to compare the two.
@WayneTheSeine
@WayneTheSeine 2 місяці тому
How ironic that the US spent over $2 Trillion trying to "create" a democratic nation and here is Ukraine who has fought for their freedom and democracy through the Orange Revolution and now fighting like warrior poets for their young democratic nation and the GOP is like......."nah......we don't want to support them." The American border has been a huge issue for over 40 years, even throughout the Afghan and Iraq wars. Yet, the GOP was all in on these wars. The GOP controlled all three houses twice during this period and did nothing. Those of us old enough to remember, the border was a huge issue during the Bush years and made it the primary issue during the mid-term elections during that period. After the election they passed a border wall bill and then mockingly refused to fund it.
@ankpms830
@ankpms830 2 місяці тому
If the Taliban received support like Mujahedeen received from the US government.....the US army will be crushed like Ukrainian force now
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
@RyanBrown-nx8dw 2 місяці тому
Ur gonna lose. U can do all the calculations u want. U just lost avdievka, if u don't stop being an idiot ur gonna lose alot more then ukraine😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@user-im3ln3lr1l
@user-im3ln3lr1l 2 місяці тому
Horrible horrible comments. How can people defend so much evil?
@nzpigeon
@nzpigeon 2 місяці тому
A lot of pro-Russian patriots wanting conquest and expansion of empire. A lack of empathy and compassion for innocent lives. Selfishness, lack of consideration and no long-term thought for the impacts of a Russian victory.
@andrewareva4605
@andrewareva4605 2 місяці тому
So out of touch that it seems I'm watching Madame Web.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
Still, the wishful thinking is on the right side of humanity.
@user-qp7lo8vy5r
@user-qp7lo8vy5r 2 місяці тому
Great discussion from Alberta Canada ...
@graemes52
@graemes52 2 місяці тому
Twisted emotional propaganda and deception is clearly your thing. tragic.
@janetbishop9325
@janetbishop9325 2 місяці тому
Agree. Great discussion from New Brunswick, Canada
@alexmood6407
@alexmood6407 2 місяці тому
“Putin can still be crushed” 😂😂😂😂
@junkscience6397
@junkscience6397 2 місяці тому
These armchair beggars have been delusional since Day One.
@alexkazz1368
@alexkazz1368 2 місяці тому
@@junkscience6397 Either delusional or malicious. I just can't tell
@Bill-ed1hr
@Bill-ed1hr 2 місяці тому
Sounds to me like a sore loser comment
@kpn5440
@kpn5440 2 місяці тому
I LIKE David's final thoughts!! Keep it up! 😊 from Kathy, WA State, listening to Ukraine The Latest daily. ❤
@joeschmoe21
@joeschmoe21 2 місяці тому
latest: Biden refused send his personal money to Ukraine. Hunter refused to go fight in Ukraine. Aavdivka, the last of the forts that NATO built in Ukraine to harass Russia has fallen. Ukraine can no longer kill ethnic Russians in Donbass. 1 Million Germans surrendered to Russia in WWII. Now Ukrainians are learning how the Germans felt.
@V-for-Vendetta
@V-for-Vendetta 2 місяці тому
An absolutely unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine. Absolutely unprovoked! In 2014, an illegal, unconstitutional coup d'etat took place in Ukraine, with the support of Europe and the United States. It's so democratic. Several regions of Ukraine do not agree with this coup d'etat; they are beginning to resist the invaders, who for some reason are supported by Europe and the USA. Is this democracy? A civil war begins. After 8 years, Russia intervenes in this conflict to stop the civil war in Ukraine. Europe and the United States are beginning to overwhelm Ukraine with their weapons. Who is to blame here? Hint: Russia. What was the invasion? Hint - Absolutely not provoked by either Europe or the USA.
@mccalljo
@mccalljo 2 місяці тому
What Blathering rubbish is spoken here about F-16s? The idea that combined arms warfare, the deployment of patriots and himars, the ability to deploy jdams with impunity and avoid Russian FAB-500s which demolished Bakmuht and Avdivka defenders would not all be changed by 50-75 F-16s is complete insanity. The absence of the F-16s is a crime.
@everitt161
@everitt161 2 місяці тому
A crime for who? Imagine if Russia supplied MiGs and armor to the Taliban. What would our response be? The crime is letting this war continue. But hey everyone is brave when it’s someone else who does the fighting.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
The absence of the entire US Air Force is a crime...
@stone4bread
@stone4bread 2 місяці тому
What 50% territory has Ukraine retook? Bahkmut? Mariupol? Russia just took Avdeevka, with the 'help' of Western Weapons. Outright lies.
@MrGreg771
@MrGreg771 2 місяці тому
Ukraine has strategically withdrawn westward from Avdeyevka in order to be closer to the European Union.
@Bigsmallcountry
@Bigsmallcountry 2 місяці тому
Its time for Nato to stick to their promise of non- expansion and negotiate.
@cq4fun
@cq4fun 2 місяці тому
She left Ukraine 12 years ago and claims to represent Ukraine today with her adolescent understanding of western propaganda 🤣🤣🤣
@wilberkuteesa2319
@wilberkuteesa2319 2 місяці тому
Marking the anniversary with a Russian win..Advika has fallen
@chadstevens6605
@chadstevens6605 2 місяці тому
Advika fell much faster than Odesa, Kyiv, and Kharkiv, eh comrade? Demographics will leave Russians as only a stain on history long before Ukraine falls. Cope, comrade.
@saptarsimondal7653
@saptarsimondal7653 2 місяці тому
Nothing can beat Western media lies! Simply the best! Lol 😁🤣😅😆
@user-dv9ds6cg5w
@user-dv9ds6cg5w 2 місяці тому
Thje tragedy of Ukraine is that it WILL continue to succeed as it has until now.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
The tragedy of Ukraine is past Russian influence.
@arqueliossantiago7791
@arqueliossantiago7791 2 місяці тому
Right and lost another city. I thought Crimea was in Ukraine hands ? She said volunteer, and she mentioned mercenary?
@pastorDbow
@pastorDbow 2 місяці тому
We need to replace Mike Johnson with a supporter of Ukraine, this is the fastest way to pass the aid bill. Mike Johnson will NOT bring aid bill to a vote; he already delays with a highly unusual vacation for House for two weeks. I am counting on retiring Republican House members especially and hopefully more to side with Mike Johnson’s replacement. They need to do the right thing despite political grief. Ronald Reagan would if he were in office would make this happen.
@Hexiad
@Hexiad 2 місяці тому
Pure comedy. Reagan gave us amnesty and the worst anti-2A law on the books.
@Jfndh
@Jfndh 2 місяці тому
This MAGA republikkkan House would laugh Reagan right on out of Capitol Hill.
@panglayman5576
@panglayman5576 2 місяці тому
Sad to say, this war is going to be called the "War of the Two Johnsons", the one who did the right thing and the other the wrong thing. :( If Boris was still PM he could have gone to Washington and confronted Mike directly. Sunak is too much of a technocrat, we need Boris to speak directly to the American people and go over the head of Congress.
@jonelbondyingnuezca742
@jonelbondyingnuezca742 2 місяці тому
Nope
@jessehachey2732
@jessehachey2732 2 місяці тому
@@panglayman5576Technocrat? I don’t see how that’s at all relevant? The US needs to sort themselves out, it is not the responsibility of the UK, nor is it anyone else’s for that matter…
@denisewhittle2049
@denisewhittle2049 2 місяці тому
A great podcast. I host a Ukrainian family and they have a home with us for as long as they need one. It's what we can do to support Ukraine and we are grateful to Ukraine who fight for us.
@propagandasheep
@propagandasheep 2 місяці тому
Ukraine fights for Ukraine.
@MrGreg771
@MrGreg771 2 місяці тому
Ukraine has strategically withdrawn westward from Avdeyevka in order to be closer to the European Union.
@jozefciszewski2074
@jozefciszewski2074 2 місяці тому
They fight for who exactly 😂😂😂
@valeriem2965
@valeriem2965 2 місяці тому
For brainwashed
@peterrees6335
@peterrees6335 2 місяці тому
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dorcol1954
@dorcol1954 2 місяці тому
Wow , pure British BS.
@vladimirpujic4087
@vladimirpujic4087 2 місяці тому
what are 50% that Ukraine took it back? and when? Give me the names of those territories that would amount to 50% of the 100% where Russia used to be. at 33:30 the ambassador said that Russia occupies 18%. It means it used to occupy 27% in the past? when?
@hansrijke8477
@hansrijke8477 2 місяці тому
Boris Johnson thats all !
@victoriahhigman9611
@victoriahhigman9611 2 місяці тому
This ladies message was voiced by military experts in the early days of the war
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
No, military experts offered Zelensky a ride early in the war...
@2Dylandog
@2Dylandog 2 місяці тому
A very good debate. Francis Dearnley gets my vote for his open-mindedness assessing these troubling times. I particularly liked his response to the question about how one might set about influencing the Russian mindset. When the media are so controlled in Russia it is possible to live in that alternative world. The internet works for us as a window on the world but not for them. We have lost our ability to project our values effectively, and the more's the pity.
@alexmood6407
@alexmood6407 2 місяці тому
Yeah the internet. Our wisdom comes from there. Trust in QAnon
@todd1770
@todd1770 2 місяці тому
😅😅😅😅😅😅delusional
@williammorris584
@williammorris584 2 місяці тому
I think he’s been thoughtful and balanced. And my disclaimer is that I’m a skeptic of Ukraine winning.
@valeriem2965
@valeriem2965 2 місяці тому
And the media in the West isn't controlled and saturated with hysterical propaganda????
@nostradam96
@nostradam96 2 місяці тому
Oh, the ignoramus! I am sitting at home in Moscow, freely reading your comments via UKposts and Yandex translator. And I often comment on it myself. I like to comment not "for", but "against". I've been doing this for years, and I don't feel any inconveniences or restrictions from it.
@tomassamel8880
@tomassamel8880 2 місяці тому
For how long they gonna feed us with this BS?
@stevenvanmeter6004
@stevenvanmeter6004 2 місяці тому
Lots of ruminating over U.S. support for defending Ukraine’s border. Zero conversation over support for defending the U.S.’s borders.
@OhYeah-qx9qn
@OhYeah-qx9qn 2 місяці тому
Border security is in the bill, but Trump doesn't want it passed so he can campaign on border security and blaming the left for not doing it.
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
The border issue is a ruse. Trump has an obsessive vendetta against Zelensky, even to the point of letting an evil Russia oppress more people.
@josephdappa1340
@josephdappa1340 2 місяці тому
The Telegraph: I enjoy your Potcasts. I find them interesting, informative, insightful and instructive! As a Christian gentleman who loves peace, compassion, empathy and harmony; rules-based international order is essential for our survival!!! jtsdrd, USA
@dirgsuite5546
@dirgsuite5546 2 місяці тому
Whose rule based national order? It's proper name is US rules based order. And the rest of the world had enough of it.
@elizabethfitzgibbon3908
@elizabethfitzgibbon3908 2 місяці тому
These talks achieve exactly what??? ACTION is needed???
@bezdownunder5481
@bezdownunder5481 2 місяці тому
Zero counter point of view nice
@sickboy8682
@sickboy8682 2 місяці тому
The intro to these videos is off the charts cringe.
@jackiebaron5119
@jackiebaron5119 2 місяці тому
I'll listen for a moment...and then laugh
@RM668
@RM668 2 місяці тому
And the British Empire still exists. A man can dream 😂😂😂
@user-dv9ds6cg5w
@user-dv9ds6cg5w 2 місяці тому
"with American aircraft and British tanks, Ukraine has weakened Russian capabilities". Does she think the American f-16's are in Ukraine ?
@niklasnorberg5071
@niklasnorberg5071 2 місяці тому
What drugs are we on in the west?
@mikelanglow-bi2sv
@mikelanglow-bi2sv 2 місяці тому
❤- Five star discussion. I feel privileged to have watched, listened and understood.
@sickboy8682
@sickboy8682 2 місяці тому
Gotta lap up that BS and propaganda huh😂
@stephenlyon1358
@stephenlyon1358 2 місяці тому
the fact they are saying putin can still be smashed, when they just lost a major battle. insane.@@sickboy8682
@commandingjudgedredd1841
@commandingjudgedredd1841 2 місяці тому
Careful. There's a bulge in your trousers showing.
@jimheath4200
@jimheath4200 2 місяці тому
We simply don't know what to believe anymore, everyone lies to us. It's a full time job to be genuinely informed.
@truthseeker8581
@truthseeker8581 2 місяці тому
Well said and it is true.
@wokesjw6664
@wokesjw6664 2 місяці тому
No Nazies allowed in Russias new territory,
@Wraith8s
@Wraith8s 2 місяці тому
Hey everyone! Listening from Avdiivka! Ukraine stands strong!!🫂😊
@HUMPTYNUGGET
@HUMPTYNUGGET 2 місяці тому
Your comment hasn't aged well in just two days has it 😂😂😂
@nickmarshall6848
@nickmarshall6848 2 місяці тому
Young chap on the left is 100% correct.
@CaravelKiwi
@CaravelKiwi 2 місяці тому
Francis Dearnley
@colinjames2469
@colinjames2469 2 місяці тому
Shes older than she looks.
@JP-fn5xt
@JP-fn5xt 2 місяці тому
No matter who the president is, the law requires honoring treaties with Ukraine.
@clivehorridge
@clivehorridge 2 місяці тому
@JP-fn5xt So what, they’re empty words. When Putin took the Crimea by force, the collective West just stood by saying “naughty boy” and did nothing. As a Brit (in exile) I’m ashamed of the way we abandoned Ukraine in their time of need, when we promised them by treaty, our protection. ❤️🇷🇴 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@mitchyoung93
@mitchyoung93 2 місяці тому
What treaties would those be?
@yuglesstube
@yuglesstube 2 місяці тому
Precisely which treaty?
@patbaker2199
@patbaker2199 2 місяці тому
@@mitchyoung93 The budapest memorandum
@patbaker2199
@patbaker2199 2 місяці тому
@@yuglesstube The budapest memorandum
@duellingscarguevara
@duellingscarguevara 2 місяці тому
These guys are salespersons for thales?🤔 (just curious..).
@jacekchmielewski6372
@jacekchmielewski6372 2 місяці тому
Living in United States, and being both Polish and American citizen, there are structural barriers in contacting US elected representatives. Unfortunately, the ordinary citizen and voter has limited access to elected officials. There seems to be some lipservice and pretends of access, but not real access.
@user-jn6ld7it6e
@user-jn6ld7it6e 2 місяці тому
joke
@Cuzthatwouldbeweird
@Cuzthatwouldbeweird 2 місяці тому
Russia go home
@egoncorneliscallery9535
@egoncorneliscallery9535 2 місяці тому
War mongers unite!
@si1208
@si1208 2 місяці тому
No danger of unbiased reporting here, then.
@bertiballermann5812
@bertiballermann5812 2 місяці тому
Orysia said an important thing which many don't fathom and most likely overheard again this time - the Ukrainians are bitter to fight this epic battle and the rest of the West is not committing seriously enough! It is abhorrent to listen time and again in Western media that Ukrainians defend also our own democracies, while we are so complacent about their struggle. Nato should show that it literally has Ukraine's back and move in with forces and no-fly zones to give Ukraine the chance to concentrate on liberating its territory. Doing this alone would most likely put a stop to further ambitions of Putin, rather than lead him to escalate, apart from rethorical escalation. This discussion is just another signal of weakness which will further encourage Putin to try and take the whole of Ukraine.
@duellingscarguevara
@duellingscarguevara 2 місяці тому
Bojo riding a storm-shadow, (a-la dr strangelove), is the logical end to this farce?😅
@wbiro
@wbiro Місяць тому
Muscovites being exposed is.
@jaydominguez7487
@jaydominguez7487 Місяць тому
Come on congress. Stand up for freedom. This is your last chance.
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