Reviving Dead Batteries With A Stick Welder

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Can a dead, sulfated lead acid car battery be rejuvenated by repeatedly zapping it with a cheap Harbor Freight stick welder?
We experiment with the process and the results surprised us.
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@anonymity002200
@anonymity002200 2 роки тому
Tony's wife gave up a long time ago trying to keep him from getting killed. She decided to just film it so that the cops don't think she had anything to do with it.
@zahari_s_stoyanov
@zahari_s_stoyanov 2 роки тому
- I'm gonna bring it up to a hundred. - Uh?
@louissanesh3455
@louissanesh3455 Рік тому
​@@zahari_s_stoyanov ⁷⁶
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 Рік тому
Nice ! Motiv !
@frank88ster
@frank88ster Рік тому
...she better make sure she's the beneficiary and increase he's insurance policy.
@irakozak1
@irakozak1 Рік тому
That’s a good supportive wife and friend. A match made in heaven!
@howardwilliams8993
@howardwilliams8993 2 роки тому
10:50 Tony says I'm going to bring this thing up to like a hundred. You can barely hear Kathy say NO. The look on Tony's face. LOL
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308 2 роки тому
I've been using this process for many years. I live off grid. My solar power battery bank will get very weak after a few years use. I use much less amperage over many hours time to rejuvenate the cells. Yes, this process is for real and it does work very well. The real test is to use a battery testing hydrometer to check the specific gravity of the electrolyte in each cell. Check the SG before and after charging. That's the correct way to see how much it improved the battery performance. This process is not BS. It works very very well! Note: it's much safer and much easier on the battery if you use far less amperage and let it run for many hours. For a small car battery, 10 amps is enough. Depending on how bad the battery condition is, It may take 24 hours or more. Check the voltage as it's charging. It needs to be maintained at around 16.5 volts. Also check the electrolyte specific gravity of each cell from time to time. The process is complete when each cell has reached a specific gravity of 1.265. This is the proper way to do this. Using very high amperage for a short time is extremely hard on the lead plates. It will get far to hot.
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308 2 роки тому
@@faizaanalap4 actually, they say about 80% of old discarded batteries can be revived.
@Syncopia
@Syncopia 2 роки тому
@@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308 It absolutely can blow out a short, many folks have brought back 0v batteries like this.
@shamust77
@shamust77 2 роки тому
All your talking about is charging a battery with a regular battery charger. The point of the video is how to REVIVE a bad battery that wouldn't take a charge or pass a load test. Not the proper way to charge a good battery
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308 2 роки тому
@@shamust77 no, one needs a uncontrolled batt charger. One that will not stop charing over 14.2 volts. To revive the batt, the charger needs to charge up to at least 16.5 volts DC. I've been using this method for nearly 15 years. I know what I'm talking about!
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308 2 роки тому
@@shamust77 that's what I'm talking about is reviving an otherwise no good for nothing battery. A batt that will no longer take or hold a charge. A batt that no matter how much you charge it with a regular batt charger. It won't take a good charge and the specific gravity of the cell electrolytes will not have a proper SG. MY method is basically the same as your method. It reliquidfies/dissolves the "crystallzed" sulfuric acid that collects on the lead plates. But my method is much gentler on the lead plates. Longer batt life using my way. My off grid house batteries cost a good sum of money. Long life is important to me!
@brianbrazil9909
@brianbrazil9909 Рік тому
Works great!!! I used a 12v charger with 50amp jump setting and left it on for two days outside caps off and i revived a 15 yr old schwab battery that was sitting out side for 5 yrs dead. Runs my chevy 2500hd like a champ.
@ottomechb
@ottomechb 2 роки тому
My dad was doing this on our farm 30 years ago. He was always trying things. Don't know how he lived to 87 years. I have a 50 year old Associated Battery charger that on high charges at 18 volts. Works very good for this. I don't let anyone else use it, NOT because they will hurt the charger, BUT because like I did once, they will fry electronics. When I was 11 my dad had me driving the truck around the field at harvest. I couldn't see out so good so I sat on top of the extra battery. I knew not to sit on the top so i put it on its side. Later that day I asked why the back of my dads pants were getting large holes.....He had red buns for a few days. Be careful with battery acid. Thanks Tony!
@BasedBidoof
@BasedBidoof 2 роки тому
So I tried this and it worked! I was gonna use my dad's old 200amp jump start battery charger, went to use it and it was broken. Did some diag, found out it was the switch, and man they're proud of that switch, $45 for a stupid switch. I bought a 200amp stick welder for $70 on Amazon instead. Tried it on my brother's old battery, which only had ~250cca in it, brought it around to ~500cca after only 3 cycles. I'm so happy, saved a bit of money, had some fun with family, and now I get to stick weld things. Always wanted to have a reason to get a stick welder. THANKS UNCLE TONY 💜
@disabledusnvet.8771
@disabledusnvet.8771 Рік тому
Tony, just for the record, batteries can and do indeed blow up if aggressively overcharged with a welder(ac/dc or dc welder - electrode positive dc setting). Twice I had seen a battery "explode". Once next to me while a fellow crew member try to jump-start a dead battery with jumper cables on an aircraft tow tractor with another tow tractor on an aircraft carrier. He shorted the battery out and it exploded, I got a face full of acid, and the top of the battery was gone. The next time was a decade later while I was working(ironworker) on a jobsite and a coworker tried to use a gas-driven welder to "charge" a dead battery and he overcooked it on the highest dc setting(300 amps), it completely exploded, there was virtually nothing left except the very bottom part of the battery and tiny bit of the internal lead/antimony plates and the battery box was blown apart. Exploding batteries can and will cause severe harm with very serious injuries and even death from shrapnel from the exploding battery.
@dwaynestomp5462
@dwaynestomp5462 Рік тому
I've seen it happen about 6 times or so. All but one just blew the top off and splashed a relatively small amount of acid. The last one was more powerful and threw acid all under the hood. I assume because the level of liquid was down inside the battery in one or more cells, leaving more room for the hydrogen/oxygen to accumulate and it's already in the ideal concentration to explode.
@wormhole331
@wormhole331 Рік тому
With the covers off they can’t explode because they can’t build up pressure.they’ll just boil all the water off and cause different problems if you don’t watch it. Doing this with a sealed maintenance free battery would be iffy unless you drill some vent holes.
@Lucky-ou4vz
@Lucky-ou4vz Рік тому
I really stupid f****** thing to especially putting a video out where somebody might get seriously
@melloyellogsxr
@melloyellogsxr Рік тому
My buddy left a battery charging on 200 amp I'm not sure for how long he had it on there he gets distracted easy and kind of an old burnout. But one thing I am sure of is that battery exploded like a star going supernova. Two and three from five kinda stuff. Man I'm glad nobody got hurt because it could've been life changing for someone. Father is great
@theeatonskbunk
@theeatonskbunk Рік тому
@@wormhole331 hydrogen and oxygen in the perfect ratio inside and around the outside of the battery. Those caps aren't exactly bolted down when they are installed. I know someone that was fast charging a dead battery. He was in the hospital 17 days before coming out of the induced coma while they replaced parts of his skull, jaw and other body parts. Anyone doing this thinking that safety glasses will protect them is miss informed.
@BG-gg9pl
@BG-gg9pl Рік тому
Absolutely, learned this working on farmer electric fence batteries👍. I used old school shop battery chargers that had several options to help car crank.
@oifovo
@oifovo 2 роки тому
You must use distilled water (then proceeds to flush all the dirt into the battery :D ) loved the video, learned something new today!
@DefektRap
@DefektRap 2 роки тому
Hilarious 🤣
@gpetheri
@gpetheri 2 роки тому
The dirt on the battery is not the same as the dissolved minerals and unwanted impurities found in non distilled water.....
@akassasin5768
@akassasin5768 2 роки тому
@@gpetheri it has similarities. I believe the point of distilled water is so it is not conductive which means that dirt would counteract the distilation in this scenario.
@FixIt1975
@FixIt1975 2 роки тому
Hehehe! I always wash the battery off before I pop the caps off. If battery cable ends are already corroded to hell, don't waste your time with it. At that point, it's leaking around the posts
@davidlynch5235
@davidlynch5235 2 роки тому
@@FixIt1975 good tip
@adolfstalin5091
@adolfstalin5091 2 роки тому
Had Uncle Cathy turned the camera around it would have shown her wearing a full hazmat suit and goggles because she knows Uncle Tony all too well. 🤣
@russellmooneyham3334
@russellmooneyham3334 2 роки тому
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dougjenks6954
@dougjenks6954 2 роки тому
Good one
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 роки тому
This is at least reasonably sketchy by her standards. But probably not particularly bad by Tony's. :-D
@adolfstalin5091
@adolfstalin5091 2 роки тому
@@aussiebloke609 agreed was a cool idea. Just contributing humor. 😁
@timnolan5849
@timnolan5849 2 роки тому
😂🤣😂🤣😂
@jason37801ftp
@jason37801ftp Рік тому
Great video, been doing this for years it does work. Not on every batt depends on the plates like you said. If the battery isn't shorted/cells aren't damage that process works 8 of 10 times. Great job man!!
@danielsteward5090
@danielsteward5090 Рік тому
I am impressed with that. I would have saved a ton of money on batteries if I'd known this little trick. The stuff you learn on the internet.
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 2 роки тому
You could let that battery sit overnight and retest it. If it passes a load test then it should be good. Most generally a overnight sitting will reveal if it's still good or not. A bad battery won't hold a charge very long at all.
@chooper3048
@chooper3048 Рік тому
i think no can do . . if you use stick welding just use few taps for 30 seconds each will do . . use 24v
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 Рік тому
@@chooper3048 that will NOT reveal a good battery... only by sitting then testing will.
@dwaynestomp5462
@dwaynestomp5462 Рік тому
They can hold a charge for over a week or even more and still be bad. A battery can pass a load test but when it sits a few days it can discharge itself if it has "dendrites" which are thin slivers of lead that get electroplated from dissolved lead in the solution. When one of those crosses from positive to negative plates inside the battery that cell will drain and depending on how thick the tendril is is how quickly it will run down. With the type of battery that you can pull the caps off, after you charge a battery you can let it sit overnight disconnected and check the specific gravity of the acid with a hygrometer (works like an antifreeze tester) and if one or two cells test lower than the others, those cells are bad and the battery will discharge faster than normal. On an older vehicle that doesn't have a computer or modern radio, etc and thus, no normal parasitic drain that keeps the memory alive a marginal battery might stay charged enough to start the vehicle over a week where that same battery on a newer vehicle might go down in a day or so. Something that can happen that runs one down quickly is a piece of a plate coming loose and shorting inside. When they don;t pass a load test that's usually because of a bad connection that isn't an open circuit, just not a good enough connection inside the battery somewhere to pass the normal amount of current.
@jeffreykbevins7116
@jeffreykbevins7116 2 роки тому
Thanks for taking us along on your experiment with the rejuvenation of the battery . I am going to find out more about doing this . I am anxious to see how that the battery holds up, so give us updates . Thanks for the information and I will see you later on another video . So be careful and stay safe out there .
@dan_6915
@dan_6915 2 роки тому
If the battery has one cell damaged by acid, this op is useless. After 5 year of use, most of them are gone.
@dyardsale5475
@dyardsale5475 2 роки тому
Dude you're a genius! I have a 9-year-old farm battery (very large car battery) brand new never ever used. I bought it 9 years ago to power a winch that I never ended up using. It won't take a charge. I have a car charger/jump starter, a big one you plug into a wall outlet. I connected it to the battery on boost mode 40Amps and left it for 5 minutes. Now my battery is at 10V and holds voltage when I test it using the same battery tester that you have. I am going to do this several more times. I didn't want to throw out a brand new battery (will try to sell it and the winch), you rule!
@inoahmann7542
@inoahmann7542 Рік тому
I would strongly advise against using a welder for this. A CC CV power supply can accomplish the same goal in a much safer way. Set the current to 100ma and set the voltage to 40v. When it reaches the current limit and drops below 15v, change the current limit to 2.5a and the voltage limit to 14.4v. Let it charge until it is drawing under 100ma (this may take over 24hrs). Then set the voltage to 20v at 0.5a for an hour. After that, it's fully desulfated, and the battery has a much lower likelihood of exploding because of the lower temperature and current. I've had a lot of batteries short out using this method, but none have exploded.
@louis0531oogle
@louis0531oogle Рік тому
I agree about using a welder, but don't the CC CB power supply cost quite a bit?
@hstone0808
@hstone0808 Рік тому
That how I'm doing right now as we speak,....I'm no genius but as I am doing this, I figured I'd come here to see what says Google and UKposts If you cab weed through the bullshit, you will find the smartest people on the planet here, thank you sir.
@allandrake4426
@allandrake4426 Рік тому
Ever try seating a tire bead with ether? Not safe either but it works
@inoahmann7542
@inoahmann7542 Рік тому
@Allan Drake yep, but it's something I won't do again unless I'm stranded somewhere.
@Joesmusclecargarage
@Joesmusclecargarage Рік тому
@@inoahmann7542 You sound like the type that pays a shop to bust down and mount tires for you 🤣
@edge1289
@edge1289 2 роки тому
You’re much braver than me Uncle Tony, I wouldn’t stand that close, I’ve seen a few blow up.
@Mrshotshell
@Mrshotshell 2 роки тому
With the caps open it's more of a volcano. Being that close is sketchy even by my standards
@bicylindrico
@bicylindrico 2 роки тому
My old auto-tech vocational school instructor told us the story of the exploding battery on a student and with him about to 'whip it out and neutralize the acid.' I think this is an auto tech instructor hand me down story but is real none the less. Great memories learning about car batteries
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 роки тому
@@Mrshotshell I see a huge sale of those shirts in Tony's future.
@N-Lee
@N-Lee 2 роки тому
Camera Man is the Bravest. He gets to looking right down the barrel of the Gun 5:17 and 6:29
@ede7208
@ede7208 2 роки тому
Just make sure to use air to blow out the explosive gas from the cells and have a fan blowing on it when charging and working on them. Ive rebuilt many electric forklift and handjack batteries and thankfully none of them exploded.
@Z_732
@Z_732 2 роки тому
Good idea. Never crossed my mind to use a welder. We always just used one of those heavy duty battery chargers. The ones with the 200amp boost. We would fill with water, plug in the 200 amp cables. Let it boil for 10-15 min. Then let it cool for an hour +. Then repeat. We usually did that 4 or 5 times for the great big ones. Usually only 2 or 3 that mes for the smaller car batteries. We kinda judge them by how fast they begin to violently boil. Brings them back from the dead. Good vid UT. *Edit. The charger must be the old school style analog. Not the electronically controlled ones, they will shut down before they do their job.
@harvestblades
@harvestblades 2 роки тому
Some of the new cpu chargers like schumacher have a setting to reviv/de sulfide the cells.
@tedesco455
@tedesco455 2 роки тому
When I was about 16 a gear head friend used a battery as a welder, guess what happened?
@Portuguese-linguica
@Portuguese-linguica 2 роки тому
@@tedesco455 kaboom
@tedesco455
@tedesco455 2 роки тому
@@Portuguese-linguica INDEED!
@bkmodelcars
@bkmodelcars 2 роки тому
Did they say anything about the stuff that you boiled off
@duder280z
@duder280z 6 місяців тому
I learned a similar method a few years ago. Revived the battery in my truck. Been perfect for the last 2 winters, still good.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we 8 місяців тому
Thank God 4 ppl sharing their knowledge through these videos. 👍 I'm 48, I've never heard of doing this.
@machinist5828
@machinist5828 2 роки тому
As a mechanic and a welder I can only think where this could go wrong in reality. That is where the broken plate would arc across it's gap and ignite the hydrogen gas internally like I have had happen to me. The plates stick together just enough to get things to start to charge, but when you hit the key and full amps are drawn from the cell the plate warps and separates causing an internal arc that ignites the gas quite explosively. This is much different than charging the battery and pulling the clip off creating an external spark. Both go boom but the external spark an we'll be avoided. Whenever messing with lead acid batteries a face shield should be your first line of defense. If for any reason you feel uncomfortable doing this sort of work trade your old battery in on a new one.
@kelsycunningham8452
@kelsycunningham8452 2 роки тому
Yeah. Face shield, rubber gloves and coveralls.
@larrymorgan3858
@larrymorgan3858 2 роки тому
i did think think it was dumb to have welder sitting beside it i assume its a new dc stick welder but i would have sat on the floor below the battery...
@kamaksi24
@kamaksi24 2 роки тому
I cringed the whole time!!
@wattienewton5967
@wattienewton5967 2 роки тому
Mate it'll scary to me I lost an eye in battery explosion a spark near the top the battery blew to pieces one of the terminals took my eye out face damage acid it's not a good thing trying new things with battery's just on the charger is enough. Cheers
@ambread1
@ambread1 2 роки тому
Like in my comment I’m now deaf because of this so called hack
@3dawgs147
@3dawgs147 2 роки тому
HAPPY NEW YEARS Uncle Tony & Uncle Cathy, That’s Amazing learn something New every time I watch you guys 👍👍
@careyrenner7387
@careyrenner7387 7 місяців тому
I was expecting an explosion the entire time lol I haven’t been on the edge of my seat from watching a video in a long time thx
@HungNguyen91622
@HungNguyen91622 5 місяців тому
Seeing how comfortable you are with this and how knowledgeable you are made me sub to you 😅
@therealbenavis
@therealbenavis 2 роки тому
I run the battery room at my work, we mostly use AGM but the same process works with lead acid. If the battery is low clean it and top off(duh) hook to low amp charger. If it doesn't take. Run high amp for 15 minutes, then hook up to low amp. When you shock it back to life you're only charging the top of the battery and need low amp and time to bring to full health. Hope this helps someone.
@bangthumper3283
@bangthumper3283 Рік тому
Does this same process work on AGM batteries as well? Thanks
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy Рік тому
Yes, because AGM batteries are lead acid batteries.
@LeverThis
@LeverThis Рік тому
@@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy How do you top off an AGM battery? Is that even possible?
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy Рік тому
I'm not altogether sure what he means by topping off, although I will assume he means to fully charge it such that there is a surface charge above nominal voltage. For instance, a wet cell lead acid battery has a nominal voltage of 12.3 volts but can rest at 12.6 volts. The three tenths of a volt above nominal would be considered the surface charge or, "topped up". AGM batteries have a nominal voltage of 12.6 but can be charged to a resting voltage of 12.7-13.1 volts and the same applies to the resting level above nominal. If I'm wrong in my assumption, I'd appreciate a correction.
@musclecarmitch908
@musclecarmitch908 2 роки тому
I'm one of the unfortunate ones that had a battery blow up in my face. The pieces of battery cut my face and forehead, my coveralls deteriorated when I washed them. I was more upset over loosing my coveralls, hide grows back! I'm still thankful to the lord I didn't loose an eye!
@jamescarter1500
@jamescarter1500 2 роки тому
Same thing happened to my dad one night trying to jump my mother's car at the grocery store. Top of the battery is what saved his eyes from the acid. Still a bad situation and a wake up call to just how quick things can go south👆💯
@davidjames2788
@davidjames2788 2 роки тому
My sister works on submarine batteries for a living. She doesn’t have one pair of jeans that don’t have acid holes in them haha.
@That_Handle
@That_Handle 2 роки тому
Would a face shield have been adequate?
@waylonmccrae3546
@waylonmccrae3546 2 роки тому
What happened to make it explode .. too many Amps. Short Circuit etc ??
@musclecarmitch908
@musclecarmitch908 2 роки тому
@@waylonmccrae3546 it sparked when I took the cable off, I guess it ignited the gas coming off the battery. This happened in 1984, since then I always turn my head when hooking anything to a battery.
@thepitpatrol
@thepitpatrol Рік тому
Nice explanation and demo!
@joejackson73
@joejackson73 Рік тому
Thanks for the video. I always wondered if there was a way to clean those plates.
@waynebuzzell2483
@waynebuzzell2483 2 роки тому
Oh the sweet memories of having a battery blow up in my face. This is good to know. Hopefully you get some longevity out of that old Battery. Happy New Year to UTG
@andrewperez5550
@andrewperez5550 2 роки тому
Can we have a round of applause for the duty cycle on that welder.
@kenpickett9317
@kenpickett9317 2 роки тому
It’s made from titanium according to the sticker. 😅
@corradopalmerini4076
@corradopalmerini4076 2 роки тому
This guy is a nut. He should of had fan blowing in that area. I've seen one blow up on a auto shop teacher. In the 80s never had a problem when I worked on car batteries in my career working in cars. I always had a fans in doors.
@daleslover2771
@daleslover2771 2 роки тому
I was thinking the same thing.. let's hope it above a 20% duty cycle🤣
@kenneththarp1254
@kenneththarp1254 2 роки тому
@@kenpickett9317 that is no
@michaelrodgers6559
@michaelrodgers6559 2 роки тому
Typical 3/32" 7018 rod runs at ~90A, depending on the situation. 1/8" 7018 at about 120. Not really impressive, it's what it should be able to do.
@1979gmcummmins
@1979gmcummmins Рік тому
Thanks for showing this experiment. I'm going to try ir this weekend
@karmicmessenger
@karmicmessenger Рік тому
I've had a couple blow up in my face as well because in those moments of genius I turned on the charger before attaching the cables. The gas is hydrogen, btw, and it loves a spark. A professional desulfation is pretty much what you've done here, the only difference is the rate of pulsation of the current introduced into the battery.
@Mywhtjp
@Mywhtjp Рік тому
AKA: Hindenburg..! Boom! another MAJOR difference here is the COMPLETE lack of safety.. not to forget his wife being close enough to get hurt or burnt by acid as well.
@joshuawheeler4404
@joshuawheeler4404 2 роки тому
Forklift battery chargers litterally do this as a desulfation setting and prompt you to refill the water level directly afterward because they actually boil a lot of the water off during the process it definitely works
@notmybleepingbike4812
@notmybleepingbike4812 2 роки тому
It would have been a great time for one of the Junkyard Jet boy to come in with a paper bag to pop.
@theclubhouse1209
@theclubhouse1209 2 роки тому
that's funny.🤣 lmao
@russellmooneyham3334
@russellmooneyham3334 2 роки тому
You got a "mean streak". Lol
@jamiecalder5459
@jamiecalder5459 2 роки тому
Tony would end up like that horse in the movie Animal House after Flounder shoots it with blanks in the gun 🤣😂🤣
@vincentenk4449
@vincentenk4449 2 роки тому
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@vincentenk4449
@vincentenk4449 2 роки тому
@@jamiecalder5459 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-cb1tb4vm3c
@user-cb1tb4vm3c 9 місяців тому
Really helpful, thanks Man. Tried it out and it totally revived my dying battery. Saved me a whole bunch of money
@knot_sure4122
@knot_sure4122 Рік тому
Thanks uncle Tony.... you always got the best advice bless you
@ChoppersModelworks
@ChoppersModelworks 2 роки тому
Ahh, perfect video for Newyear's night for something to experiment with your buddies in your garage after a few beers!
@77chevy4x4
@77chevy4x4 2 роки тому
And never charge a frozen battery.. acid runs back into the plate once discharged! Smelly batteries equals nasty booms . 1/4” of water over the plate . It will rise once fully charged.. 12.75 and above each cell . If blackened or dropped against the crew … its a dead core. 12 years of making sure Chicagoans had batteries to start the rides 82% of the volume of them was our warehouse.
@jamiewallace4413
@jamiewallace4413 Рік тому
That good for blowing the buildup that ends up bringing the plates over, it kinda just blows the shorted part out, et’s you have all the cells back operational again. It’s always worked for me and a pretty good success rate. But you’re still get a battery that has no hope for it here in there. Great info and hands on video.. thanks
@tiacohen2173
@tiacohen2173 Рік тому
You took the words right out of my mouth Im impressed!! Good job on the video!! Your Awesome !!! Im Mike Rowe Rowe's Restorations peoria AZ Keep up the good work!!!
@Tommy_Mac
@Tommy_Mac 2 роки тому
Happy New Year! Very informative! I'd heard of this but never witnessed it. Thanks! It might make sense to disconnect the ground side cable at the welder (not the battery end) to minimize the risk of an arc.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 2 роки тому
How about just turning off the switch?
@Tommy_Mac
@Tommy_Mac 2 роки тому
@@tedmoss that's a must. There are usually capacitors within welders used to ballast the load. Disconnection at the machine-end of the cable, removes the possibility of an arc near the hydrogen source
@davidleonard8369
@davidleonard8369 2 роки тому
Arc welders come in both AC and D.C. make sure you are using a welder with D.C. output or if yours is capable of both set it on D.C. looks like tony is using a harbor damage 225 amp D.C. unit. Also many units are capable of reversing the polarity so there's that too.
@adolfstalin5091
@adolfstalin5091 2 роки тому
Been welding since 87 myself great points. 👍👍
@blipco5
@blipco5 2 роки тому
Leonard.. that would be "Harbor Fright". 🍻
@davidleonard8369
@davidleonard8369 2 роки тому
@@blipco5 I have a lot of tools from harbor damaged and the home pisspot.
@adolfstalin5091
@adolfstalin5091 2 роки тому
@@blipco5 Hobo freight he he
@ai_university
@ai_university 2 роки тому
Hazzard Fraught
@stevejanejamesjassteph5903
@stevejanejamesjassteph5903 Рік тому
You the original mad scientist, living on the edge Tony.... I love it, Greetings from Gold Coast, Australia
@coreydinsdale7258
@coreydinsdale7258 Рік тому
Interesting. This reminds me of something my grandfather told me many years ago, he was an engineeer for Union Pacific, he retired in the late 60's, early 70's so this was before rechargeable batteries. He said when their flashlights would get dim or die, they would take their flashlight batteries and connect them to the big batteries on the locomotives for a few seconds and it would revive their flashlight batteries.
@MacRobbSimpson
@MacRobbSimpson Рік тому
If they were alkaline cells, they are not "rechargeable", but they actually are. The problem is that the non-rechargeable cells tend to leak after recharging, at least in my own experience(usually a week or two later). They also greatly lose capacity over a couple of cycles. I totally believe you could hook one up to a single cell on the locomotive(possibly lead-acid?) and charge it for a bit. Current would be limited by the internal resistance of the cells at least.
@501isa
@501isa 6 місяців тому
@@MacRobbSimpsonif it is cheap zinc carbon you can get about 1/3rd to a half charge back in them but you are right about the chance of them leaking shortly after. It’s a quick and dirty fix on batteries like that but once they have been revived it’s best to get shot of them after a day or two.
@dixonwa1
@dixonwa1 2 роки тому
This is the stuff youtube was made for!! Love the content, keep it up.
@johnk3386
@johnk3386 2 роки тому
WOW! I got one of those on the side of my house too! Awesome video! Thanks
@ryandoesit5407
@ryandoesit5407 Рік тому
I use to struggle with my motorcycle and e bike batteries all my life and I'm half way done doing this to my ebike battery and it was only at 1 volt before desulfateion and now she's 10 plus volts and I'm not Done yet 😎 love this trick!
@paramaniacwolverine843
@paramaniacwolverine843 2 місяці тому
I saw your follow up video, which brought me here. I have seen a few ways like this and one the one they suggest once you've done this rejuvenation, to let the battery rest about an hour between each cycle. Also afterwards to put the battery on trickle charge. I'm keen to try this on a battery I bought brand new but left standing due us loosing the engine on the car. Although I did use a trickle charge on the battery I didn't stay disciplined and the last couple of months I've noticed that it can't keep up with the other battery that I bought with it, since the engine required 2 batteries to start, (an old GM 350DX) The other battery stays above 12.6 volts but this one drops right down to 10v.
@hughbarton5743
@hughbarton5743 2 роки тому
Thanks, Uncle Tony! Having witnessed a dramatic battery explosion at the range of 20 feet (on like my tenth day at my first job in a real shop!), you couldn't pay me enough to try this! PS: the guy working on the car had just hooked it to the big honking charger we had in the shop( think 1975...) and turned away to his workbench. Scared him near to death. He wasn't right for a week.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 2 роки тому
My twin brother never forgot the time I was playing around with dynamite fuses and he was working on our 1941 Chey pickup truck. After he had a battery explode on him, he was touchy about explosions. I used the battery in the truck to set off the cap and he jumped up and hit his head on the hood. He chased me all around with me laughing at his reaction to my mistake, not realizing how he would react.
@zappatx
@zappatx 2 роки тому
Desulfinating is actually reversing the polarity for a nano second using capacitive discharge. With the right charged capacitor you can even revive those small (non-lithium) batteries making them like new.
@lawrencekiel-sr2772
@lawrencekiel-sr2772 Рік тому
Back in 1967 my school auto shop teacher showed the class this procedure, I have a charger with a high boost setting and did this on the farm for many years. Some batteries did bang and split top or sides. Remove battery from vehicle, tractor, stationary power unit beforehand.
@WL-mt4mv
@WL-mt4mv Рік тому
I worked on a DC power plant that had over 600 large batteries and put out over 7,000 amps. We always had eye wash kits and splash proof goggles on site for safety. Because the lead acid batteries were not exposed to the heat from under a hood or freezing winter temperature's some were rated for 60 years. When I retired some of the batteries were well over 25 years old and still going strong.
@angryman3317
@angryman3317 Рік тому
25 years and still going strong😶 do you know the chemistry of the batteries? Sounds similar to the nickel-iron alkaline cells used in the original Baker electric cars. They were very heavy, very large, they charged very slowly, you couldn't pull massive current BUT... they weren't negatively affected by repeated deep discharges due to the electrolyte having a low solubility of the reactants. They also had a life rating between 30 and 50 years... With very basic maintenance..
@WL-mt4mv
@WL-mt4mv Рік тому
@@angryman3317 They are standard lead acid batteries. I should have said that the output of the plant was 7,000 amps and the plant is sized so the equipment can run on the batteries for over 24 hours. We did monthly voltage test on individual cells and would do a discharge test on the plant once a year where we would let the equipment run off the batteries. I would run the backup generator once a month for an hour and it would take about 100 gallons of diesel to run it for that hour. I never checked out what would be the maximum output current. We also checked if the batteries needed water once a month.
@johndooley8837
@johndooley8837 8 місяців тому
l Have some experience with similar large cells, they were lead calcium, low specific gravity, fully charged at 1.220 SG and 2.2 volt per cell. The cases were clear so that you see inside them, each case held one cell. They were connected together in series strings using large metal straps. There was several inches of space below the plates for sediment to harmlessly fall and collect. They had to be topped up with distilled water about every 6 months and were rated for 25 years service.@@angryman3317
@pbmartinfencing
@pbmartinfencing 2 роки тому
I used to do this at a used car lot , I talked the owner into buying me a old style big battery charger and would boil old batteries . It saved him a ton of money on batteries
@tomschultz2833
@tomschultz2833 2 роки тому
If you only put in enough water to cover the cells and watch it, you can top it off after it settles down that way you don't lose acid due to boil over. On another note you mentioned the possibility of a cracked connection between cells I was full fielding an older blazer with the external regulator the battery blew up the acid hit the hood and rained down on the back of my head. I was glad it wasn't a Ford with the regulator behind the battery.
@larrysinclair7770
@larrysinclair7770 2 роки тому
Wondering if you could do an HHO video. I'm hearing the units with tuners work pretty well. But so many different opinions I can't tell what's up. They seem to work on diesels better than gas. I have a 6.7 cummins. Would be great if this helps significantly.
@ujmrider
@ujmrider 2 роки тому
This works very well. I did it last weekend on a battery from my Suburban. It failed to start and had to be jumped several times recently. The battery would not hold a charge anymore after being on a standard charger for several hours. Now it's just like new - full cranking power even after leaving headlights on for 5 minutes, or sitting overnight. Thanks Uncle Tony !
@charlessmith3758
@charlessmith3758 2 роки тому
Staring at the battery waiting for it to explode in your face, good job.
@Wyowanderer
@Wyowanderer 2 роки тому
Very cool. I'll be interested to see how it works long term.
@FRANK101101101
@FRANK101101101 2 роки тому
no reason what so ever to dispute the process, but would have loved to see that battery on the load tester before as well as after to judge the improvement from one cycle. Great video to !!
@nicholashunt8314
@nicholashunt8314 Рік тому
Thanks Tony, going to try this trick myself, have a dozen or so batteries that are past prime. Going to give them another crack at life. Auto mechanic myself and haven't heard of this trick before
@tomasjones3755
@tomasjones3755 2 роки тому
It works. I've done it. It's an electrical 'brute force' technique. I've done the same reviving many kinds of small batteries; using a pulse width modulator - which pulses the charge and keeps the battery from overheating; perfect for sealed batteries. The reason the welder works better than high amp battery charger, comes down to charge voltage. The welder is running at 16-19 VDC. The success of any brute force technique is the overvoltage. I used to do chemical desulfating on coffin batteries; for buses, motorhomes, heavy equip. It was a long and messy job. I much prefer the electrical method. For ultimate/OCD results, one could pour the acid through a fine stainless filter, to remove particulates; that have sluffed off of the plates. This may/may not improve longevity. Based on what i have learned, the next auto battery I do I'm going to apply some pulse applications. Going to try 1 min on, 2 min off, 10 cycles and see if that produces desired results.
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 2 роки тому
Sloughed
@rcnelson
@rcnelson 2 роки тому
Please return and report your results.
@tomasjones3755
@tomasjones3755 2 роки тому
​ @R C Nelson Will do! Since my reply is long, I’m putting in main comments.
@ciaranwalsh2131
@ciaranwalsh2131 2 роки тому
@@tomasjones3755 👍🏻
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 2 роки тому
Would a 200 amp DC welder work for motorcycle batteries if you turn the amperage down? One of the videos I saw said to get a 160 amp welder for smaller batteries and deep cycle batteries and a 200 amp welder for larger automotive batteries but I'm not buying 2 different welders.
@rockymeyers4030
@rockymeyers4030 2 роки тому
Fluxie couldn't have pulled that much current for that long, one of the few videos without a cigarette hanging from his mouth
@howiefeltersnatch2973
@howiefeltersnatch2973 2 роки тому
Will a cigarette cherry light hydrogen? I know it's not hot enough to ignite gasoline, but have always wondered about propane. And now hydrogen lol
@firdausravindar977
@firdausravindar977 Рік тому
Hi Tom, you are truly a brave man. Thank God nothing happened and now you have a good battery. Wonder,how long it lasted.🤔🤗🤗
@CapnCrusty
@CapnCrusty Рік тому
A critical piece of information missing from this "instruction" is that your welder needs to be configured for DCEP, with the electrode going to the plus terminal and your work lead going to the minus.
@katherinew1366
@katherinew1366 11 місяців тому
You'd think that would be obvious. Plus to plus minus to minus to charge. But then again, I'm not a welder, I'm an Electronics Technician LOL.
@Pete856
@Pete856 10 місяців тому
@@katherinew1366 It is obvious, however many arc welders use a positive work (ground) lead and a negative electrode...the electrons flow from the electrode to the work. This would be the wrong polarity of you clamp the electrode to the positive and the work clamp to the negative (as seen in this video), that's why it's important to be using DC Electrode Positive (DCEP) for this setup.
@hughezzell10000
@hughezzell10000 8 місяців тому
DCEP = Direct Current Electrode Positive, meaning the stinger is positive and the ground lead is negative
@gerrydoffner2491
@gerrydoffner2491 2 роки тому
Thanks I always wanted to do this experiment I’ve heard about putting high amperage into a battery to rejuvenate it but I’ve never experienced it thanks I was great
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому
using a good condition 12 volt battery to act like the welder might also work
@Natattack4444
@Natattack4444 2 роки тому
Honestly love how genuine and informational every UTG video is, feels like we're all just mates in the shop stressing the important safety stuff but also accepting our own accountability similar to AvE, This Old Tony, and good old peg from zip ties and bia plies.
@Hateline
@Hateline 2 роки тому
I disagree with this statement this Tony guy can't tell us why we need to use distilled water, I not convinced the battery was even dead to begin with and besides at no point did he ever say "angry pixies", "chooch factor" or even "corntact"
@qwerty2008100
@qwerty2008100 Рік тому
I might give this a try with a few old batteries I have laying around. Be an interesting experiment. One of the batteries is probably 20 years old. I'd be interested in seeing exactly how bad of a battery this could revive. Side note. I have an optima red top from 2017 that was sitting in a shed for two years. I hooked it up to my mustang and it cranked stronger than either of the 2022 batteries I had been using. The thing just won't die.
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Рік тому
You probably should have had a timer and a thermometer as well ideally one of the infrared point-and-shoot ones you can use from a distance or you could just touch the battery on occasion to make sure it's not getting too hot which is what I do but I recognize the other way is preferred and much safer
@ScoutCrafter
@ScoutCrafter 2 роки тому
I love your style man... You can always tell people who are genuine and you are it... Thanks so much!
@Kowalskithegreat
@Kowalskithegreat 2 роки тому
I've had great results desulfating batteries, i used to take good cores when I worked at advance and refurbish them, gotten friends out of jams many times with my hoarder stash of fully charged batteries of all sizes. I just use the repair function on a NOCO genius charger, works same or slightly better than the standalone pwm desulfator I was using previously. to get full results with my method can take 1-2 weeks, I just swap the leads to the next battery every couple days so they all get it evenly
@Kowalskithegreat
@Kowalskithegreat 2 роки тому
also, if anyone does this, dont bother attempting if the battery is AGM or gel, including Optima betteris. it just doesn't work. only flooded batteries will be improved, you'll make an AGM worse and maybe even melt a gel
@sultankuto8724
@sultankuto8724 2 роки тому
Just did mine today with a battery that died in 2018 ,has been sitting all since and truely works
@cantwaitkid
@cantwaitkid Рік тому
I think my biggest concern would be to keep the top of the battery dry as NOT TO SHORT CIRCUIT between the terminals. This should also be a part of routine maintenance to make sure there are no wet tracks between those terminals which will cause overnight voltage leakage/drain.
@gregorylankford114
@gregorylankford114 10 місяців тому
I'm not an electrician but, aren't all the cells connected via the water/acid inside the battery? Isn't the path of least resistance through the terminals?
@JustPeaceLoveAndKindness
@JustPeaceLoveAndKindness 2 роки тому
This is simply using the high current DC to reverse the chemical reactions in the battery that has led to the sulfation buildup. Sweet Project Cars showed this on his channel a while back, and I have used this to revitalize my old batteries for a few years. Do this in 5 to 10 min increments. Do not use it above 80 amps, as that will cause trapped gases to blow out of the top. Always have baking powder nearby to rescue/neutralize any spill or splashed sulfuric acid. Several treatments should be enough to give the battery a new lease on life. Make sure it has enough time cool before each treatment. Nice video.
@xmachine7003
@xmachine7003 2 роки тому
I saw it there also. Mike the hammer showed this 1-2 years ago. Works. Do this every couple of years for a touch up. New battery.
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 2 роки тому
That's the main video that I watched learning how to do this but he says to get a 160 amp welder for motorcycle batteries and deep cells and a 200 amp welder for bigger automotive batteries. I don't see why that's necessary if you can turn the amperage down on the 200 welder and up for bigger batteries. Any thoughts on this? I'm not getting two different welders.
@djtjriggy
@djtjriggy 2 роки тому
Would like to have seen a load test before the welder hack just to show how bad the battery was. I have seen dead batteries come back when the normal draw of the vehicle has been off for some time.
@angeldejesus65
@angeldejesus65 2 роки тому
was just going to put the same opinion...made the video half useless if i did not see how bad it was
@hummerxp
@hummerxp 2 роки тому
No kidding the date on the battery only makes it 4 years old...
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 2 роки тому
stop spoiling the magic trick or else ( or else i tell your kids Santa Claus isn't real )
@neiltessier3520
@neiltessier3520 2 роки тому
Exactly pretending to fix a battery that's perfectly fine
@MrHarleyoldfart
@MrHarleyoldfart 2 роки тому
@@carmineredd1198 What do you mean by Santa Claus isn't real?
@beannpersad8071
@beannpersad8071 Рік тому
Thank you very much, from Trinidad
@AngeloXification
@AngeloXification 11 місяців тому
Tried this today, one battery fixed... 3 more to go😂 I now want to buy up "dead" batteries to add to my solar set up. Thanks man.
@datasailor8132
@datasailor8132 2 роки тому
There are three basic types of lead-acid batteries used in automobiles and boats. The old style is referred to as flooded batteries like Tony was using. These can be maintenance style with removable caps to replenish the water. Variants of these either have water recapture like the Surette Roll$ batteries or may be totally sealed. A second variant is that the battery’s plate architecture is designed either for high cold cranking amperage for starting only or for deep discharge such as the batteries used on house circuits on boats or in golf carts. Automotive starting batteries do not like to be discharged too much. The next type of batteries is the gel cell. In these the electrolyte is not a liquid but as the name implies is a gel. The advantage of these is that they can be operated in any orientation, even upside down. My old Miata had one and they are popular on motorcycles. They do not like to be over discharged. If so, they will likely die. Whew, long post. Finally we get the the AGM battery. AGM stands for Absorbed Glass Mat a cross between flooded and gel cells. Supposedly these batteries can be used like car starter batteries for their high CCA, Cold Cranking Amperage, or as a deep discharge battery. The difference in the three types is their physical construction. The chemistry is the same. Each of these types has a different charging regime. Most modern battery chargers have three phases. Bulk feeds the highest amperage up to about 80% of the battery’s capacity. After that the charger drops to a lower amperage in the absorption phase which takes the battery up to 95% capacity. Finally the battery is on the Maintenance Charge also called the float. The three types of batteries discussed here have different characteristics in the three phases. The AGM can take the highest charge rate of the three, but a charger designed for flooded batteries can also be used on AGM. Gel Cell batteries use a different regimen and never the twain shall meet.
@MH-53E
@MH-53E 2 роки тому
Nice science lesson but what am I supposed to get out of it? At some point in that long, informative post you could have addressed if this method works on anything but flooded batteries.
@datasailor8132
@datasailor8132 2 роки тому
@@MH-53E Sorry, I never tried it. I wouldn’t leave batteries around on the ground in my yard in any event. I’m more concerned with being able to start my boat’s engine, run my radios, and keep my USCG required lighting lit. I’m not that interested in saving a few dollars when my life is at stake.
@MH-53E
@MH-53E 2 роки тому
@@datasailor8132 Seems to me you are more interested in showing others that you are the smartest guy in the room, which I seriously doubt. Intelligent people don't have to do this, it simply shines through. Or it doesn't...
@philatkinson7764
@philatkinson7764 2 роки тому
Have been using load sensor like yours to get batteries from the dump and u look for batteries not bulging on the ends . It seems if a battery shows a good voltage under load it has some life left. If a battery is in the dump it usually has been sitting around for some time before it arrived at the dump .have been using them for off grid uses. Try your idea with a battery that clearly bulging on the ends.i use that type of welder as a fast charger use a volt meter to regulate the voltage to about 15v .I use welder with generator to fast charge fridge batteries in early evening when camping so as to only run generator a short time.
@kevinb9745
@kevinb9745 2 роки тому
@@MH-53E I guess that makes you kind of a fucking moron then,eh?
@ede7208
@ede7208 2 роки тому
I seen one guy revive batteries like you did and he would pour out the old battery solution after getting the scale burned off and put in new solution. He said it would last longer and keep the old scale from getting back on the cells.
@Brettmlyons
@Brettmlyons 3 місяці тому
I find it funny I am not a Mopar guy, not even a rear wheel drive car guy.. but I find myself listening to everything Tony says. ❤
@mariocooldude9092
@mariocooldude9092 Місяць тому
Time to get with the real cars that matter 😂
@dalehood1846
@dalehood1846 15 днів тому
@Brettmlyons,,. There's always room for another at the table of Ma Mopar. Try it, you'll like it! One word of caution, It's Addicting in a good way. Welcome Brother.
@redwarrior01
@redwarrior01 2 роки тому
For science reasons! Thats the best answer ever, am gonna use it at the shop!
@tomhendricksen7355
@tomhendricksen7355 2 роки тому
Thank you for this video. I watched your video and a couple of others as well. The battery in my Slant 6 D100 died a little more each time I charged it. Finally going from 100% to 10% in about 2 1/2 starts. At that point I took the battery to my welder and applied 150 Amps 4 times for 15 minutes each over several hours letting it cool down between each charge. I put it in the truck and after 6 starts trying to figure out why it won't run properly the battery never showed any signs of losing power. I think you saved me at least $80 with this video. Thank you.
@artfuldodger8655
@artfuldodger8655 2 роки тому
Wonder why a 2017 battery was discarded after only 2 years A five year old battery is, IMO, not very old
@wardmontgomery9259
@wardmontgomery9259 2 роки тому
Many old batteries around here and we all love an experiment ! Glad I found this channel - subbed and liked
@dan_6915
@dan_6915 2 роки тому
You can throw them away. Not reparable. Unless you do it the indian way. Pry open, remove lead elements, install new ones, new liquids, and charge. Most of the 5 year old batteries, have damaged cells. You cant fix that just with new liquid and a trickle charge.
@jayserr
@jayserr 2 роки тому
Any update on your experiment? Did you revived any of them? Did you explode or anything?
@wardmontgomery9259
@wardmontgomery9259 2 роки тому
@@jayserr I’ll keep you posted when I get going on them
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому
@@wardmontgomery9259 its been 5 months .. how it going there amigo?
@wardmontgomery9259
@wardmontgomery9259 Рік тому
@@fidelcatsro6948 I went to work on an 800 amp battery and got it up to 12.8 bolts and 650 amps - it holds the amperage pretty well but my charger only goes up to 8 amps so I haven’t really heated it up too much … maybe I’ll get a new charger but I’d say - so far, so good !
@imaguygolfn
@imaguygolfn Рік тому
I seriously envy that shop you're in!
@toddmccullough7778
@toddmccullough7778 2 роки тому
Thank You, Sir!
@beerggls
@beerggls 2 роки тому
If you mix baking soda in the water you have standing by in case of accidental skin contact, it will neutralize the pH. Much better than diluting to relieve the burn.
@therealsideburnz
@therealsideburnz 2 роки тому
You can get a bag of soda at Costco that is about 15lbs for like $6. Handy to have around for acid neutralization, and you can safely put out grease/oil fires with it
@beerggls
@beerggls 2 роки тому
@@therealsideburnz Non-food grade pool cleaning baking soda comes in giant Arm and Hammer bags and it’s cheaper than the regular kind as well.
@cargotoolshop5319
@cargotoolshop5319 2 роки тому
Your a lifesaver, I have hooked a battery up to 110 volt outlet and tripped the breaker four times and the battery worked perfectly fine after that, your method seems better
@firehawk6188
@firehawk6188 2 роки тому
rofl
@fookingsog
@fookingsog 2 роки тому
Accident Prone Much?!🤔🤣😆😂
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 2 роки тому
Using AC is a great way to blow a battery up! Don't try this!
@yougayism
@yougayism Рік тому
@@ssoffshore5111 to be fair the facy ones oculate to clean the plates too soo
@Chris-dg7vk
@Chris-dg7vk 2 роки тому
I've experimented with batteries before and I suggest that you have a container of baking soda which neutralizes the acid definitely suggests that. And any of the waste after that you have that you might throw away take baking soda and dump it in it and it will neutralize the acid and then you can just blow them properly and not cause any damage to anyting couldn't be eaten by the acid. Just a suggestion otherwise pretty cool stuff God bless have a great day.😎😃😀😁
@kenswitzer4133
@kenswitzer4133 Рік тому
Hydrogen gas is extremely volatile when if it burns it makes one heck of a flame. Since it is a gas it can if in a great amount of volume displace the oxygen in the lungs and smother you. Tonies warning and suggestion on shutting the charger off before disconnecting the charger is the way to go. Any way you look at it. Tony is right, do this outside and make sure you watch this several times so you will not miss one of his steps or safety tips. He does a good job with safety related videos. Thanks Tony
@FJ80Coop
@FJ80Coop 2 роки тому
Back in the 40s,50s,60s,and 70s old men had those 150-200 amp battery chargers in their garages and they'd cook their auto batteries like this every few years or so whenever they started getting weak... They rejuvenated their batteries for many years instead of replacing them every couple or 4 years such as is the norm today...
@musicauthority703
@musicauthority703 2 роки тому
That's true batteries definitely can explode. I've had it happen to me, I had an old Oldsmobile that had a flat camshaft. and because of that the engine wouldn't crank over. so I turned my father's Marquette battery charger all the up on high. and went to turn the ignition switch, I turned it to cranking position and blew the top of battery. going inside the car to crank it over saved me from getting hurt there's another method for rejuvenating batteries that calls for the use of epsom salts and only requires regular battery charger it's supposed to work but I haven't tried yet.
@scottamalone640
@scottamalone640 2 роки тому
That's a fine way, I've been talking very old dead battery's starting at age17 &now 65. To remove the algae build up on the outside of the cells I take a teaspoon of epsom salt to each cell & then top off the battery with water between the top of the cells & the beginning of each cell filler hole. Charge the battery in the same way you did building up the voltage over time the smell can sometimes get very strong as the cells are boiled clean. I've taken 2 truck battery's & a set of Arc welding leads to weld on the PTO for the Semi's dump bucket with just the 2 battery's the tractor frame is 18 inch c-channel. I did 4 truck's but only 1 was with the battery's.Get back with me after you try it out, you will be amazed what you can do.
@happycat0411
@happycat0411 7 місяців тому
Great video on reviving a dead car battery. BTW the analogue load tester gets pretty hot with two consecutive load tests. Give the load tester a five minute break between each load test. I have a 100 amp jump starter on my battery charger and it does the exact same thing as the stick welder.
@mikek1187
@mikek1187 2 роки тому
Would have liked to have seen a before/after reading with the load gauge. Plus, try load testing a couple hours after reconditioning to let everything settle.
@maxlown363
@maxlown363 2 роки тому
Ive been wrenching on the family farm for decades. Ive heard of this being done. I never knew how to proceed to try it. Its impressive that it works
@dan_6915
@dan_6915 2 роки тому
It doesnt. I've tried it. There are many vids on yt. It will maybe hold charge for few days, but then it's gone.
@fm1224
@fm1224 2 роки тому
Hey it was a Duralast...lol.. you can theoretically melt the lead plates inside. There's so much more you can do and not do to rejuvenate a battery... What he did was pretty cool and it appeared to work..thanks for the video!
@nigeleyeit
@nigeleyeit Рік тому
Great video, this follows the VIR law, Voltage, Current, Resistance. So the plates are insulated because of sulfation buildup on the plates, which intern gives the circuit higher resistance, so the battery will now not take current at normal voltage because resistance is to high. So if we raise voltage it will allow current to flow overcoming the resistance. DC arc welders output 20-40v DC under load from what I've read, put a multimeter on terminals when it's charging and see what voltage it's reading. You could then determine using a clamp meter how much current the battery will take if you wind the welder up for a second and via VIR law workout the resistance of the battery. Also another interesting thing to back this up is an alternator in a car is capable of producing 100amps on most cars, but there is a regulator to limit the voltage to around 14volts, otherwise the battery would be doing the same thing in your car driving down the road. Lastly when I do this I attach a thermal probe to the side of the battery and monitor the temperature.
@ngofyneface5547
@ngofyneface5547 Рік тому
Thanks for the process. Can this method be used for sealed lead acid batteries also ? That's maintenance free batteries. Thanks and may God bless you chief.
@davidholcomb9961
@davidholcomb9961 2 роки тому
Awesome! I would like to see you empty the old acid and crud out and refill with new acid and water for a long term test!
@strategicthinker8899
@strategicthinker8899 9 місяців тому
Filter the acid and pour it back in.
@bobbyz1964
@bobbyz1964 2 роки тому
Did you mention the welder needs to be DC? Most people would know that but you can bet some damned fool is hooking up an old Lincoln AC welder to a battery right now. I'm guessing the results won't be good.
@eweunkettles8207
@eweunkettles8207 2 роки тому
wouldnt a constant voltage supply be better " ie a mig welder " be able to pick your voltage stick is constant current
@dc6233
@dc6233 2 роки тому
He never said, and call me the "damned fool" because I was about to try this with my Lincoln Jukebox welder...
@bobmitchell4532
@bobmitchell4532 2 роки тому
@@dc6233 You know DC makes perfect sense but until I saw this comment it hadn't occurred to me. DUH! This is why I always read the comments. The life I save could be my own!
@DieselMike
@DieselMike Рік тому
I would have liked to know how the battery was testing prior to starting this procedure. I have an deep cycle marine battery that's been sitting in the garage for years without a charger on it. It's currently reading 3.48V and will not come up with a basic 6 amp charger. Wondering if this method is worth trying or if my battery is shot beyond repair.
@appleSUX1
@appleSUX1 Рік тому
So did it last and worked on a car for a while, as you mentioned you were going to test it on a vehicle? Just wondering if it was a short term fix, or a long lasting fix(1, 2 or 3+yrs..)thx for the video, very interesting. 👍
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