Climb the Alpe faster on Zwift! | 7 top tips to go quicker
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День томуThe Alpe du Zwift is the platform's signature climb. For many people going under an hour is the target, but whatever your goal these seven tips will help you shave seconds (and who knows, maybe minutes!) off your time. Tell us your best time in the comments below!
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0:00 Introduction
0:59 Know what's required
2:23 Get the right kit
3:42 Warm up properly
4:40 Fuel yourself well
5:21 Aim for a negative split
6:26 Use trainer difficulty
7:45 Get some competition
9:04 Conclusions
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@roadcc 3 роки тому
What's your best time up the Alpe?
@bertonabike6991 3 роки тому
45.36 at 12yrs old 😆
@krisbowditch827 3 роки тому
39:45 👍
@DaveAtkinson 3 роки тому
@@krisbowditch827 i couldn't even do that on the e-bike :-D
@drsus0 3 роки тому
1:05 right now, would be nice to get under the hr
@nosforatu101 3 роки тому
46.39 at 53. No power ups. The tips sounded good until you got to trainer difficulty. Put it on 100% It's a hill climb after all. Have you really done it, if it's on less? You may as well just ride Tempus Fugit for your hour. Other than that Nice vid
@Scharpie 3 роки тому
I just started with Zwift (and cycling in general) last week, and today I got to level 6 and unlocked the Alpe. I am a complete beginner when it comes to cycling, having not ridden since I was a kid 20+ years ago and I'm generally unfit. I did the climb in 2h8m... Not fast at all, but I got all the way up without stopping, so I'm rather happy about that!
@roberteltze4850 3 роки тому
I haven't biked for about 6 years due to some injuries. I've recently gotten back to where I can ride without too much pain. My second time up AdZ was 20 minutes faster than the first. Third time improved another 20 minutes. Keep up the good work, you should see big improvements when you're first starting.
@benanderson9551 3 роки тому
Keep up the good work. Your body stores muscle so the muscle etc you built when you were younger is still there and I’m sure you’ll see some massive gains with consistency. Enjoy
@tacopeland 2 роки тому
My opinion… 2h8m is not fast… BUT 1) it was your first time, 2) you didn’t stop, 3) you said you are generally unfit. So, with that being said, 2h8m is a great start time. Follow the tips in the video and improve on that time. As you progress higher in level you will have access to lighter frames and will definitely get your time down by at least 30-45 min. Stick with it and you will get in better shape. Good first effort.
@goslpa 2 роки тому
I'd be happy with 2 hours 8 minutes. I'm 150kg and it took me 2 hours 40 last time I did it
@owenreaney6864 Рік тому
At 13 I did it in 53 minutes!
@dannymongrain4788 Рік тому
'There's nothing like the fear of losing 39th place to some random stranger for the other side of the world'. Haha, that is exactly my mental state in Zwift racing :)
@michaelhoult9 3 роки тому
The fear of losing 39th position to some random from the other side of the world is a high motivational factor! LOL!
@danroberts007 3 роки тому
Lol. That's how I live on Zwift. :-p
@malte0n 2 роки тому
i was racing adZ with someone from the other side of the wormd and i took the jersey with him only 0,5 seconds behind was the most fun and painful adZ ever
@NoodlesTBograt Рік тому
its funny coz its true
@AnvilAirsoftTV 2 роки тому
Did the Alpe for the first time this morning. Was pleased with my 1.27.36 at 107kg. Many more ascents ahead!
@craigthomasutube 3 роки тому
54.03. Age 59, 1st year of Zwifting but been a local recreational cyclist for 13+ years. That time will be hard for me to beat as I maxed my effort, and had a strong day going up. 56.01 min is my 2nd best time.
@jeffcarr4870 9 місяців тому
I'm a "D" rider and have done the alp in 80:34 I want to go sub 80. 200 watts per segment will get me there. I fell down to 185 watts on the last 3 corners and still got 80:34. Thanks for the tips. It might help me get to 79:59!
@MattSwain1 3 роки тому
I use 100% trainer difficulty because there’s steep hills near my house outdoors and I need to practice using the gears that I’ve got. With that in mind my approach is to get out of the saddle whenever the gradient number goes red and be seated the rest of the time. It’s tempting when you’re out of the saddle to put out some extra watts because it’s quite easy to do (for a while at least) but you will pay for them so try to keep around your target power number
@MegaMarkoni Рік тому
Exactly how I did it those three times...
@jonosmalls883 2 роки тому
Great video. Tried the Adz for the first time yesterday, 84 minutes at 70kg. Definietly had more left in the tank so I'm looking forward to trying again next weekend!
@joewatts6016 3 роки тому
Did my first trip up Yesterday in a banded group ride. I know it isn't a 'pure' way of doing it but to get the feeling for it, it was good. Nothing like chasing virtual pixelated asses up a hill for motivation, or a Ride on to put extra power down to gain a few extra drops.
@matthaigh5296 Рік тому
The personal best robopacer helps me on climbs
@jamesengelsma3 3 роки тому
My tip would be practice! The more times you do it, the better you’re able to prepare for what’s coming :)
@ptkewl 2 роки тому
I saw this video this week and I guess it inspired me to get below the hour mark on Alpe du Zwift today with a 53:43 time. It was a proud moment for me and even getting the 70 minute mark I started to get there was an achievement, it's always a tough challenge for me, I'm far from a pro cyclist. Ride On everybody!
@roadcc 2 роки тому
top work, that's a solid time!
@timowen5741 2 роки тому
Great tips, loved the last one, clinging on to 39th place, don3 something similar 😂
@praesdoom Рік тому
In my opinion, the most convenient is to check in on custom program(ERG-mode). No switching with dips and power jerks. No chain twist. Predictable load. Predictable pulse. For my first trip so far, the program was 10x240w + 10x230w + 20x220w + 16x210w + 4x220w. At the beginning of the program there was a warm-up for 10 minutes at a power of 135-235 watts. The program ended about half a kilometer before the finish line. I drove the rest of the way in gears, at an average power of 240 watts. Total 62:47. Next time I will calculate the program for 230w (3.2 w \ kg) to drive for 60.
@willlehrfeld457 3 роки тому
Nice video, thanks.
@jsprhrmsn 3 роки тому
Joining the Alpe Dash by team HERD worked for me.. enough people to battle with up the climb.
@gamma_dablam 3 роки тому
Assuming you aren't last
@ralfmimoun2826 2 роки тому
My first Alpe rides were just under two hours, and with breaks. Now I am in that 1hr class, not bad for my weight. It just takes time and practice. If you want to shave off some more seconds, then "sprint" through the flat corners.
@spankmypita Рік тому
Joined Zwift 2 months ago, did the Alpe last weekend (69:00). I did it as part of a Pace Partner ride (C. Cadence), at a comparable w/kg to my FTP. Granted, we did the Epic first (quite a warm-up!), in terms of having a group to ride with at a consistent effort, the Pace Partner groups are a good option.
@leosmithzwift3170 2 роки тому
Just went sub sixty today!
@rickorwig986 Рік тому
I’m almost 61 and just started riding Zwift last fall. Gaining fitness, have ridden almost all of the KOMs, only the other Beyond categories remaining, and rode the shorter Alpe route and completed the climb at 89:30. Pretty much coughed out a lung though I did complete it in less than 90 minutes which was my goal. My second attempt was the Fire and Ice route and completed the Alpe KOM in 86:30 (a whopping 3 minutes faster 😂) and again about coughed out a lung. Would love to get somewhere close to an hour but I suspect it’ll be a while. 😅
@ashleyhouse9690 3 роки тому
8 - Coffeeeeee!!! 👍👍👍
@baronvonhoughton 3 роки тому
I'm 2 months into Zwift, coming from unfit after an operation and xmas! Had my first go up the Alpe last week, 67 minutes. So not a million miles off the hour. This vid is just what I needed, thank you, I'm definitely gonna implement every tip.
@roadcc 3 роки тому
Cracking stuff Bob!! Good luck with the ongoing recovery 👍
@baronvonhoughton 2 роки тому
@@roadcc I cracked the Alpe in under an hour today! Thanks again for the help.
@royevans4581 3 роки тому
I have the same bike on Zwift in the same colour! (I think) Is that a CAAD12? I have a real one that's why I chose this bike. I won the Lightweight wheels first go too! I'm currently at a best time of 1 hour 20mins and very happy with it as my first attempt was 1 hour 27mins. Maybe it's those wheels making the difference lol. It's great to use Zwift to get fitter when the weather is rubbish therefore I can keep up the continuity and make progress. Subbed.
@scotth3354 2 роки тому
My best time, and highest overall average power, was accomplished riding the Alpe doing sets of 10x 30/15 intervals.
@longbra 3 роки тому
Good advice. Learn the coarse so you know what to anticipate, assuming you are riding at100% difficulty.
@BrianDukes 2 роки тому
Great video - nicely presented, have hit subscribe. - might be a silly question, but is the Alpe just a part of a (or several) bigger courses?
@roadcc 2 роки тому
It's on the Watopia map, so part of a bigger world. There are plenty of routes that include it, 'Road to Sky' is the shortest one
@Mr.Torres-Johnson 2 роки тому
yesterday , took me 1 hour and 5 mins to climb it and it was super experience
@rolfterwal5850 3 роки тому
I use my Wahoo elemnt to keep an eye on the average wattage during the climb.
@florianbrandy4915 3 роки тому
Always Monday at 18:00 CET REVO Climbers is going Alpe
@dul22 2 роки тому
8. Push it on the big ring in the turns instead of trying to recover a bit
@benanderson9551 3 роки тому
All good points. Road to the sky gives 5km to warm up, before the climb. Start your effort at 5.4km so you have some speed going into the climb at 5.5km. My key one is accelerate out of corners and on flatter parts increase your speed. If you can do an event then even better, or if you’re just missing out, try getting a feather power up just to give you that extra little bit
@danroberts007 3 роки тому
Yes, accelerating around the corners is essential, imho.
@juanxotero 3 роки тому
1h 28 min. I think i have a Grand Tour in my legs
@malte0n 3 роки тому
My best was 48 min im a 15 year old prof
@dragusto1 3 місяці тому
Hello. I am new to cycling and Zwift. To improve my climbing power, should I train on the climbing routes I have determined in ZWIFT or should I apply ZWIFT's climbing programs? Can you give me any advice?
@alpanian 3 роки тому
I use 75% trainer difficulty, because the bike I have on the trainer has a max 27 tooth cassette whereas the one I use outside has max 34 teeth, both on a compact crank. If I were to use 100%, i'd be grinding too much and killing my knees. At some point I'll upgrade that cassette I guess...
@solefreak2 2 роки тому
My knees were in pain as I worked my way up. The bike usually has a 11/34 cassette but the trainer came with an 11/28, is this what is causing the pain or how my bike is set up?
@NillerMann 3 роки тому
Do it in ERG mode. There’s a bug in Zwift that reduces the resistance slightly when going up gradient and increases it slightly when on a negative gradient even though the power on the screen remains unchanged. The steeper the gradient the more pronounced the change in resistance will be. You can find a thread on this particular subject on the Zwift Forum.
@TROll-oe9ng 2 роки тому
Wouldn’t you just be hurting yourself though by making it easier?
@dewidavies7995 11 місяців тому
Level 6 on zwift today 2023/4/11.
@Vam1500 3 роки тому
I’m at 1 hour 11 now, age 56. That was with the stock wheels. I guess I can improve a little bit. Sub 1 hour seems like a bridge too far right now.
@yytu2605 3 роки тому
What????? Bridge too far?? You can do it bro just 20% more.. 10% training and 10% a good day and you can do itt
@Vam1500 3 роки тому
@@yytu2605 Thanks! I will keep trying.
@joeblack1052 2 роки тому
Hilarious Just input a lower bodyweight in your profile And bobs your uncle
@aboumawiyah Рік тому
Push more on a steeper gradient and save power on a less steep gradient.
@MrLuigi-oi7gm Рік тому
Under an hour if you have "reasonable" fitness! 🤦♂️ If you can sustain over 3.2 W/kg for an hour that represents better than "reasonable" relative to the vast majority of Zwifters. I agree with you about trainer difficult (realism). Consider two Zwifters. One is riding a cool, but vintage, flexy, steel bike with a 5 cog non-climbing rear free hub with downtube friction shifters. The other is riding a modern, stiff, carbon bike with a 12 cog climbing rear cassette and electronic shifting. If both of these riders set their TD to 100%, the vintage bike rider will have a more challenging time trying to break 60 minutes. I'll never understand some people's obsession with setting the TD to 100% to be "legal and fair" when the whole point of the TD slider is to try to equalize the experience for all riders, whether or not they are fortunate to be able to afford the best equipment.
@bobmanyo1 9 місяців тому
1. Cycle faster 2. Cycle harder 3. Cycle smarter
@aurelebesnier7478 3 роки тому
I need 65' but my beast of a wife does it in 46' OO
@JakobThusgaard 2 роки тому
Just thinking out loud : the incline percentage clearly isn't the same all over the mountain. Shouldn't it make sense to push A LITTLE higher w/kg on the harder parts of the course? For instance if your using ERG mode, take it up 1% if the incline is higher than 8%. Thoughts?
@roadcc 2 роки тому
generally speaking the slower you're going , the more of your work is actually going into moving you forward and not pushing air out of the way, so yes. road.cc/content/feature/power-weight-expert-guide-common-fitness-stat-257416
@JakobThusgaard 2 роки тому
@road.cc Alright, so that means: A rider doing the Alpe with a flat 3.2 w/kg is going to be slower than a rider who averages 3.2 w/kg with slightly higher wattage on very steep sections and slightly lower wattage on the not so steep sections. Right? If that's correct, it should be possible to make a mathematically perfect plan for where to do which power. In fact, if you know the route and the times well, it should be possible to stick all that in a workout, and let ERG mode do its work to get the best possible result on the Alpe...
@Sickshitmofaka Рік тому
Got the Tron bike at level 4 😅
@averst69 3 роки тому
My Plan 4 to go under an hour is: make a work-out that sets the right amount of effort for 90% of the climb. I am planning on leaving the last bit "free" so I can accelerate if I can. I am now at 1.01 :-)
@papad001 3 роки тому
I did exactly that, but must have miscalculated as got 1 hour and 7 seconds !!!! My FTP is higher now so will try again .
@averst69 3 роки тому
@@papad001 ouch, that sucks
@benanderson9551 3 роки тому
Good idea, though there’s a part that flattens out a little bit and on the hairpins I’d say it’s best to put some speed into those as you can gain massive time in these sections
@averst69 3 роки тому
@@benanderson9551 true that. I'll see how it works out.
@benanderson9551 3 роки тому
@@averst69 good luck and let me know how you go 🤞
@aboumawiyah 3 роки тому
Hit harder at higher gradients ie over 9% and rest at gradients less than 6%
@sgtted7580 2 роки тому
If you have strong legs you will get up it. I have all the light stuff. But I have tried and tried but I can't get up that hill at all. I did get up the real mountain in a reasonable time. But can't do this at all.
@dul22 Рік тому
What's the point of doing the Alpe and aiming for a certain time if you don't do it on 100% difficulty ??
@toddboucher3302 2 роки тому
Does anyone know the incline mile per mile so I can run this on a treadmill. Heard it averages 8% so I guess I could just keep it on 8%
@roadcc 2 роки тому
there's a breakdown here: www.climbbybike.com/climb/alpe-dhuez/5
@jackworthing 3 роки тому
is there a tool that helps me calculate what w/kg I need to ride up Aple to get a certain time? current record is at 52:30 and I want to go sub 50:00
@jackworthing 3 роки тому
never mind, it's all in here at minute 1:57... :D
@roadcc 3 роки тому
Did you comment without watching the video at first?? 😉
@n.heroep2786 3 роки тому
I found trainer difficulty doesn't change "the feel' of how hard the climb is. I rode with 100% difficulty for quite some time, then I changed to 50% difficulty. I was expecting the gradient should feel a bit easier. Well, it's not. The feel is the same. What's different is "my cadence.". In 10% gradient @ 100% - I would have to grind, but with 50% - I spin 74. I always think that the trainer's difficulty is more like "virtual gearing.". For most road bikes the large gear is 34t. So if you use 34t at 10% (depending on your fitness), you can end up grinding with low RPM (50-60). So making the trainer difficult to 50% essentially like changing your 34t to 40t for example. Now you can spin 70-80 RPM on a 10% gradient. I've been doing a gearing test, and I found 11-36 with 34 chainrings, I can ride 70RPM on 10% gradient @100 trainer difficulty. If I use 50% difficulty I ended spinning 78-80 RPM. So if your bike gearing is low enough, you can ride 100% without issue.
@noggintube 3 роки тому
Yeah unless you drop to silly low numbers it can be seen as virtual gearing as you say - I use a 1x12 setup so drop to 50% otherwise I wouldn't be able to make it. That said, at higher cadence, the lower difficulty does mean the flywheel has more momentum than it would if you were at a 100% and can be seen by purists as 'cheating'. It's been the cause of major debate on Zwift forums, but I just recommend setting it to what works for you and enjoy it :)
@n.heroep2786 3 роки тому
@@noggintube Ow certainly. Use trainer difficulty that works for you. I was just offering my experience. Since I'm training for vEveresting, I've been experimenting with my current bike gear to be able to have (at least) the same feel as if I ride 50% trainer difficulty. It just people have been labeling 50% difficulty as an easy climb as opposed to 100% difficulty, which is a wrong assumption. Some riders even brag that they only ride 100% because real men don't ride 50% (which is for me quite funny). If you think of trainer difficulty as "virtual gearing" adding or replacing your bike gear, then it will hopefully make sense. I've been riding Zwift since early 2016 and it took me a while to understand the trainer's difficulty. So I'm not surprised with the pandemic, lots of people ride Zwift and this trainer difficulty is a bit confusing concept.
@MrMpow3r 2 місяці тому
when I look into zwift it says I have to be at Level 36 to buy the Tarmac SL7
@zachdunning8089 3 роки тому
Just send it all the way, it'll be reet
@chriscleverley6473 2 роки тому
Everyone says to try for a negative split, and to pace yourself. That is not what Tony Martin used to say though. I cannot find his quote, but he believed more in all out the whole way and to push through the pain. I always used to do a lot better if I stared out on the attack. It is partly a mental battle. I found it much better to start on the attack and then push to survive the rest of the way. That is where I was most comfortable, never defending. (Well, then I got older, and starting out on the attack gets me to about 15 minutes in and then.... it is quite pathetic really. A line of bikes overtake me. Grandmas overtake me, waving, while singing. I do have grandchildren, it weighs me down.) Wow though, I never knew that I could upgrade my bike and wheels.
@MrLeovdmeer 2 роки тому
my time is 99 minutes. First time on my Scott Scale 980 mtb
@roadcc 2 роки тому
top work!
@ronald1363 2 роки тому
I have a tacx boost can I do alpe de swift than
@roadcc 2 роки тому
yeah you can ride it on pretty much any trainer. You need to be level 6 in the game though
@ronald1363 2 роки тому
@@roadcc oke thanks for the answer speed will go slower in than the screen ifyou go up but you not feel that with the boost
@ronald1363 2 роки тому
I have a speed and cadans sensor
@themusette5894 6 місяців тому
I think people overlook bike maintenance: service the drivetrain.
@andymitchell2146 2 роки тому
At 120kg, there's only one way to get up AdZ much faster, extreme weight loss.
@Enigma71559 2 роки тому
The only thing I'll say about trainer difficulty is to me, with it on 100%, it seems significantly harder than real-life. In the real world, I certainly struggle but can and do climbs over 10% without having to drop to my lowest (36X28) gear. In Zwift, with the TD set at 100%, I'm standing up and can barely keep the pedals turning over at those gradients. I use 50%.
@roadcc 2 роки тому
it depends a lot on the trainer you use too, some are a lot more aggressive at full TD than others
@solefreak2 2 роки тому
I must be very weak.. Took me ages (2hrs including the start of Road to Sky) to complete the climb (without stopping) but my average watts/kg is a joke!
@roadcc 2 роки тому
the only way is up though, right?
@ptrigg10 2 роки тому
I think my 1st time (that counted after sweat dripped on my controller quiting the event I was in) was a bit under 3 hours
@solefreak2 2 роки тому
@@ptrigg10 But I've fellow cyclist in a club I occasionally cycle with who've done in 50-57 mins 😱 - fastest I've done it in now after 3 attempts is 1h.37min
@WowRixter 3 роки тому
Apparently, the Safety bike is the fastest bike up AdZ but it requires a massive number of drops
@quintaavenida2413 3 роки тому
This isnt true.
@WowRixter 3 роки тому
@@quintaavenida2413 I thought that's what Chris Pritchard found, I could be wrong
@MrSuicycle 3 роки тому
It was for a short time, but Zwift "fixed" that.
@WowRixter 3 роки тому
@@MrSuicycle well that saves me 4M drops 🙄
@mathewrose2951 3 роки тому
My fastest time up was around 39 minutes and some odd seconds. I got under 40 twice, but winter has not been kind and I am floating around 42 minutes now.
@gwhite7011 2 роки тому
I hate my avatar drinking without my choice. I'll do it on the TT bike regardless of the penalty
@roadcc 2 роки тому
It's a strange hill to choose to die on, but each to their own 😄
@gwhite7011 2 роки тому
@@roadcc Die ?.. Fortunately it's only an avatar in a VR game but it does seem chronically dehydrated.
@barisbolat7152 2 роки тому
Also to prevent wastage (changing gears etc) you can make a training zwo file at your preferred wattage, and keep pedaling until you reach the top. Say you can make a training ride 3.2 w/kg which will allow you to beat 60 minutes
@roadcc 2 роки тому
yeah, or even an interval one that averages the w/kg you want to hit, if you want to break it up a bit!
@CanHammer 3 роки тому
Kind of a given in a video on how to climb up faster you just say put out more power lol
@roadcc 3 роки тому
More. Power.
@dsmhiggins67 Рік тому
Surely turning down the trainer difficulty is cheating ?
@witzi911 3 роки тому
Reduce your weight 👍🏻💪🏼🤦🏻
@roadcc 3 роки тому
in the game? or in real life? :-D
@spojce9 3 місяці тому
i averaged 260 watts and my fat ass was 63 mins. i have to lose some weight...
@MS-un9zq 5 місяців тому
Tip... 😂 just finish...
@rrrseajay 2 роки тому
3.2w/k. You’re talking about the top 10% of riders. An hour for reasonable fitness. This video starts off a joke.
@donwinston 2 роки тому
> 3watts/kg? Oooof.
@mgoo1713 3 роки тому
Pick better parents....
@SprintTri57 2 роки тому
Calibrated smart trainer, correct weight and raise your front wheel 8%. Then tell me your time
@roadcc 2 роки тому
and trainer realism up to max, right?
@Gufolicious Рік тому
100% difficutly or it doesnt count boys it is what it is
@donwinston 2 роки тому
Don't be a wuss set the training difficulty to the maximum setting. Use a lower gear.
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