RTX 4090 Gaming Laptop 🤯 eGPU Comparison with Desktop!

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I’ve connected Nvidia’s RTX 4090 to a 14” and 17” gaming laptop to find out how an eGPU compares against a desktop PC! Check prices: RTX 4090: geni.us/c7zl | ASUS ZenBook 14 OLED: geni.us/Y7g3Rq | Aorus 17X: geni.us/LAPo7A9
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RTX 4090 Gaming Laptop Timestamps:
0:00 Laptop + eGPU or Desktop?
0:14 Thunderbolt eGPU Setup
0:26 4090 is Chonk - Mods Needed!
1:50 Specs of Laptops Tested
2:21 Specs of Desktop PC Tested
2:36 CPU Difference in Cinebench
3:20 The 3 Goals for This Video
3:43 BIG PCIe Differences
4:24 Next Gen Thunderbolt Doubles Bandwidth!
4:52 External Screen Used for eGPU
5:16 20 Games Tested at 4K, 1440p & 1080p
5:28 God of War
6:10 Halo Infinite (Important to watch)
6:45 Red Dead Redemption 2
7:17 Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
7:48 Metro Exodus
8:17 Call of Duty: Warzone
9:03 Fortnite
9:32 Watch Dogs Legion
10:06 Total War: WARHAMMER III
10:19 The Witcher 3
10:46 Apex Legends
11:05 Cyberpunk 2077
11:17 Rainbow Six Extraction
11:23 Forza Horizon 5
11:28 DOOM Eternal
11:40 F1 2021
11:57 Spiderman, Tombraider, Borderlands, Dying Light
12:07 eGPU + RTX 4090 Worth it for Laptop?
13:29 New Thunderbolt = Performance Boost?
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 836
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 10 місяців тому
Find out how the ASUS ROG Ally runs with RTX 4090 next! ukposts.info/have/v-deo/n36dm6ivhaKlmHk.html
@archanakarunarathna58
@archanakarunarathna58 10 місяців тому
DOES IT HAVE A USB VERSION
@VIBETOSPORTSS
@VIBETOSPORTSS 9 місяців тому
Do I have to use this gpu or can I find a cheaper one
@You71552
@You71552 8 місяців тому
this is not a usb c but a thunderbolt cable
@tbone8839
@tbone8839 7 місяців тому
newer In Flames sucks bro
@ejsanjose3608
@ejsanjose3608 28 днів тому
Would like to see in your analysis the oculink or pcie x4 egpu instead of thunderbolt as it has nore bandwidth. 😊
@anantnagar9104
@anantnagar9104 Рік тому
Welcome to the new episode of which I can't afford
@hoven-lh8wq
@hoven-lh8wq Рік тому
I can afford that but the price/performance is so bad.
@12rsz
@12rsz Рік тому
Come back on Black Friday, (better be quick when that day is there.)
@DC3Refom
@DC3Refom Рік тому
@@hoven-lh8wq exactly , the 80 series is even worse 75% more over 3080 10gb , 95% price increase in Europe and for that your getting 50%-60% more performance for the 4080 16GB , Jensen is seriously taking the piss.
@Bryle_
@Bryle_ Рік тому
Even if you can afford it, it'll be not worth the bucks.
@beataoo
@beataoo Рік тому
@@hoven-lh8wq yep, 3060 with is the most cost effective GPU btw
@VSN1001
@VSN1001 Рік тому
I believe the main reason for the performance discrepancy between the 2 laptops is due to the way thunderbolt 4 is being implemented. The i7-1260P has TB4 build into its main CPU die while the i9-12900HX does not have native TB4 so it requires another IC, the Intel Maple Ridge TB4 controller which may be causing problems
@AdriMul
@AdriMul Рік тому
Here with the HX CPU, because of the discrete Thunderbolt controller, the data flow has to go through the motherboard chipset first and thus has to compete with other things like storage or wifi. In-CPU Thunderbolt implementation is definitely the way to go to have the best eGPU performance as it means the eGPU is pretty much directly connected to CPU PCI Express lanes.
@ivanbrasla
@ivanbrasla Рік тому
TB4 has not changed bandwith with respect to TB3. It still has 4 lanes of PCIe 3.0, while the 4090 is a 16 lane PCIe 4.0 card, or 8 times more bandwith. That's way it runs like crap
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Probably, I just assumed they were the same as the Intel ark page didn't really make it clear that there were thunderbolt differences, so this seems to be a downside for hx.
@cldpt
@cldpt Рік тому
@@JarrodsTech quite a shame you went through all the trouble using a problematic, not ideal higher TDP laptop, such as a 12700H, 12800H or 12900H
@VSN1001
@VSN1001 Рік тому
@@AdriMul Well said!
@joelconolly5574
@joelconolly5574 Рік тому
Basically, if you can afford a 4090, you can afford a PC.
@chainsapphire9526
@chainsapphire9526 Рік тому
Common sense bro
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Рік тому
you can afford both a PC and a laptop
@wnxdafriz
@wnxdafriz Рік тому
@@GewelReal honestly... the biggest issue with a 4090 is the cost because i can buy a pretty ballin gaming laptop for 1600
@Pamani_
@Pamani_ Рік тому
@@wnxdafriz yet the 4090 desktop will be twice as fast as a 3080ti laptop, if not more.
@travisr4666
@travisr4666 Рік тому
Affording a pc is not the issue, portability is. The reason people pay more for a laptop... If I chose to build a pc I can get so much more real bang for the buck. People don't buy gaming laptops to save money.
@Gerdoch
@Gerdoch Рік тому
I can confirm that resizable BAR is an issue for Thunderbolt eGPUs. Under Linux I've had to outright disable it in order to increase eGPU performance. Fortunately with Linux I can set kernel boot parameters to enable me to do so regardless of BIOS settings or anything. I have no idea if Windows has any similar options or functionality.
@alexamderhamiltom5238
@alexamderhamiltom5238 Рік тому
considering moving to linux RN, since my company just ditched office and using google sheet. like how many hour is needed to setup it? is steam os have no major problems to use egpu with USB 4?
@Tri-Technology
@Tri-Technology Рік тому
Is it possible to run the eGPU with the old drivers without resizable BAR?
@hazaelelysion
@hazaelelysion Рік тому
Jarrod is just wonderful. All those testing. Massive results.
@gurshair
@gurshair Рік тому
Thanks for the amazing vid. EGPU's have never stopped gaining my interest, I just wish they got better with new tech.
@Roll_the_Bones
@Roll_the_Bones Рік тому
Jarrod, I bought a Razer Core X several yrs ago as a gamble to boost up my outclassed old i7 7700HQ Omen15 1060MaxQ, using an RTX2060. It benchmarked at approx 95% of the average desktop 2060, and was amazing tbh. Maybe pushing the limits, it was upgraded with a 3060Ti last yr, and STILL benchmarked 95% of desktop average for that card, and (with CPU undervolting, GPU overclocking, & 16GB RAM) I can still play competively with my ancient 7700HQ laptop, eg. 105fps on Battlefield 1 ultra. But, I do think this is the limit for TB3/4, and my next PC will have to be a desktop build, I can't see eGPU being a viable use for an expensive RTX4-series graphics card on any laptop. RIP eGPU beyond RTX3060Ti.
@Martin1519
@Martin1519 Рік тому
This is great but I wanted to see benchmark comparison before the Egpu and after Egpu on the same laptop as well.
@DailyShit.
@DailyShit. 4 місяці тому
It would be horrendous with the smaller laptop without a dedicated graphic card.
@furynotes
@furynotes Рік тому
Yeah. I think it’s the fact that the higher end laptop has a dedicated gpu. I remember in the early years of thunderbolt 2/3. It was easier to install and run a egpu on igpu only laptop vs a laptop with a dgpu.
@georgema99
@georgema99 Рік тому
Good review. I'd thought about having an external gpu with an HX cpu but not based on these results. Looks like an HX with an 3070 or 3080 is in my future. Depends on black Friday pricing.
@XinoMbr
@XinoMbr 7 місяців тому
Very solid review. thank you!
@abhardwaj02
@abhardwaj02 Рік тому
Jarrod is a tech scientist at this point. Running various experiments to advance the gaming life
@mikecrawford9537
@mikecrawford9537 Рік тому
I'd be most interested in testing the 3070ti with the i7-1260p compared to the 3070ti in the tower. I think this is likely true for 95% of others watching this video, as very few want to drop stupid money on a 4090. Some thing even more common such as a GTX 1080 or 1070 eGPU i7-1260p / tower comparison would be even better.
@frostilver
@frostilver 11 місяців тому
Agree. 4090 as eGPU is simply stupid. Most people want eGPU not because of they want the ultimate performance, but because they don't want to buy both laptop and desktop.
@bogdand.4987
@bogdand.4987 11 місяців тому
I'm having 1240p with 3060 eGPU, it's pretty fine. But laptop with 3060 can outperform it I guess
@thokchomrajeshsingha
@thokchomrajeshsingha 10 місяців тому
@@bogdand.4987 is it possible to connect eGPU (RTX 3080) to my laptop MSI GP62 6qf with type-c 3.1.
@swesleyc7
@swesleyc7 8 місяців тому
USB c looks identical to thunderbolt ports. If it's just USB c 3.2 it won't work. It has to be a thunderbolt port.
@DailyShit.
@DailyShit. 4 місяці тому
Exactly. A comparison of "eGPU vs dGPU" with the "same" card is the comparison i want. I don't need gaming on the go as much but I would like to use the same laptop for everything and connect it to the eGPU for gaming and 3d modeling at home.
@AndreyVGM
@AndreyVGM Рік тому
I heard that PCI-E M.2 connection is more direct and has less overhead than using Thunderbolt. It would be interesting to compare with this connection as well, who knows. Of course with 4-lanes PCI-E setup, as there are a plenty of 1-lane setups on the market.
@IndraBuanaCom
@IndraBuanaCom Рік тому
Maybe the best implementation of e-GPU is in the house, eg: RoG Flow, which I recalled that using Thunderbolt only reduce the performance by much than using the full XG
@asinner7418
@asinner7418 Рік тому
Thank you man for uploading
@JennyDarukat
@JennyDarukat Рік тому
Wondering how much of a gap there would be with something more like a 4070 Ti, 7900 XT (or even more so, an 7800 once available). Going all out on the top of the top with eGPU clearly doesn't make sense at the moment, but depending on how much performance loss there is for the more attainable, upper midrange products, this may still be quite interesting. Context: considering to wait for the next generation of Frameworks (which, should hopefully include the Thunderbolt bandwidth upgrades you mentioned) and looking at a viable eGPU for an above-midrange solution. Coming from an Omen 15 4800H/1660Ti.
@roadtofxmaster
@roadtofxmaster Рік тому
Wonderful Video, Jarrod. Can you also test the eGPU + Laptop performance on the Blender, Redshift rendering? I currently have the Legion 12700+3060, wandering to buy a eGPU to boost my laptop or to sell my laptop and buy a whole new 4090 setup. Thanks Bro.
@vicktorfilmbusker5492
@vicktorfilmbusker5492 Рік тому
Thanks for another good eGPU video Jarrod! I would really like to a full guide eGPU set up video from you! I've been fighting with an egpu to work properly for months now, but it's hard to find any good trouble shooters or guides out there, especially videos. I found out that there is an issue with windows 11 and tb4 drivers with intel 12th gen CPUs. Thunderbolt controller isn't present in device manager. I had to install win10 to just connect to my rtx 3090/mantiz egpu. But even now, Performance is better with the laptops inbuilt 3060 card in almost every single case than it is with the 3090. External display with the laptop screen and gpu turned off doesn't make any noticeable differences either which is weird as well. I imagine that I would know a lot more about TB issues and other egpu errors if you had included some of that installation process in your videos, becasue I've watched all of your egpu videos and will keep doing so! 🙂
@yuripupynin767
@yuripupynin767 Рік тому
Have you checked the processor's operating frequencies, has there been a frequency drop of about 2 Ghz?
@junaustria0119
@junaustria0119 Рік тому
Very informative video. I'm using an eGPU for work coz I don't own a desktop. So it would be interesting to see how the rendering speed using Twinmotion or Lumion. To explain, I'm an architect by profession. My laptop goes around with me from office, client presentation, job sites and home. And I have eGPU for office and home.
@killianlobato27
@killianlobato27 Рік тому
Similar here.
@SudokuMann
@SudokuMann Рік тому
If there's a way to do it, it would have been interesting to see one of the worst performing games for the laptops in a set up where the desktop is using the eGPU, making it posible, for example, to check the impact of resizable BAR, or maybe to use it as a best case scenario.
@batmanonholiday4477
@batmanonholiday4477 Рік тому
Wow man thanks, this is truly helpful
@omegamalkior1874
@omegamalkior1874 Рік тому
Just as fyi, Halo Infinite needed to have ReBar turned off in Nvidia Profile Inspector for driver 522.25 for it to work right on my eGPU 3070. I assume that's the case here alongside Watch Dog: Legion. With my 3070 I get 70-90 FPS at 4K and 130-160 FPS at 720P, so more graphics horsepower like the 4090 has would have definitely made the eGPU shine as it's not that bandwidth limited.
@naufalkusumah2192
@naufalkusumah2192 Рік тому
Nice info, I will remember this when I get an eGPU setup in the future
@omegamalkior1874
@omegamalkior1874 Рік тому
@@naufalkusumah2192 yeah if you need instructions I posted them in the eGPU sub, just search it up as my comment kept getting deleted when I posted the link
@killertruth186
@killertruth186 Рік тому
@@omegamalkior1874 In Reddit?
@Panda-AE86
@Panda-AE86 Рік тому
@@omegamalkior1874 I’m curious about that, if there’s a link or a place to find that info let us know
@omegamalkior1874
@omegamalkior1874 Рік тому
@@killertruth186 yes
@TruFire710
@TruFire710 Рік тому
Oh my fudge, I was literally planning on doin this in the future since I just bought a Razer Blade 17 3070 Ti 150w TDP, and I'm planning on making this my full setup. I'm happy as hell you can try it out first.
@andrewlindner5243
@andrewlindner5243 8 місяців тому
But what if you're connecting external displays to ghe eGPU and not running through the laptop screen? That's what I'm keen on, can I run my laptop as a CPU / OS and everything else connected to a dock and eGPU via TB3/4. Anyway, maybe a test for next time?
@moncefvladivostok
@moncefvladivostok Рік тому
Damn , this is the video i was looking foor, thanks mate
@justjarryd
@justjarryd Рік тому
Hi Jarrod, please can you test the eGPU with content workloads. 🙏🙏 looking at an eGPU for rendering.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 Рік тому
For better performance you could hook up directly to the pcie 4 ssds slot.. It carries none of the bottlenecks if thunderbolt and should get twice the bandwidth, assuming you can get it to work?
@rokko_hates_japan
@rokko_hates_japan Рік тому
so glad I watched this video! Thank you. I was just about to pull the trigger on an ultrabook with thunderbolt and get an eGPU for desktop use. Now I can see it's not worth it yet. A gaming desktop and a cheap laptop or tablet would be a better use of money.
@JB-uh6dg
@JB-uh6dg Рік тому
Excellent to see data from many games to see that several don’t work well-thank you for the video. But I reached an entirely different conclusion, that yes an eGPU is worth it in many cases so long as your machine doesn’t have a cpu bottleneck or less than thunderbolt for an interface. Given that above 60 fps most humans can’t perceive higher fps, and uncommon that someone can tell differences above 120 fps, if you can get averages at about 100 and 1% of 60+, you’re in great shape. Especially if you only have a 60hz monitor. There is value to the higher performance desktop rigs for driving better quality displays and for lifetime of the rig, but I would definitely pick up an egpu to game effectively when I can park the laptop, if that’s what I’ve got.
@raute2687
@raute2687 4 місяці тому
Very interesting video! Could you do a comparison between thunderbolt and m.2 to pcie x16 adapters? They also have only 4 lanes of course, but they don't have the other thunderbolt limitations.
@helciopandelo
@helciopandelo 8 місяців тому
My question is about the bandwith x GPU model. Can a low/mid end GPU perform exactly like the RTX4090 using the Thunderbolt interface??
@12Burton24
@12Burton24 9 місяців тому
Would be interessting if there would be a outisde pci e x16 port to connect it directly to yourpc mainbaord and have full power and with a cable to a laptop if you just use the laptop.
@ElCapitanD
@ElCapitanD Рік тому
Very welcomed video, many thanks for sharing.
@LostRoaming
@LostRoaming Рік тому
Would be interesting to see this done using a laptop pcie gen4 slot via one of the egpu gadgets like adt-link. I seem to remember it's quite a bit faster, wonder how it would do on 4090.
@johndoh5182
@johndoh5182 Рік тому
I'm really interested to see how this plays out next year with Zen 4 and 13th gen laptops, ESPECIALLY Zen 4 Dragon Range which focuses on CPU performance and is made to pair with another GPU. I'm thinking a possible 50% jump in performance in a setup like this.
@ucle9955
@ucle9955 Рік тому
Dragon Range will not be available for at least 5-6 months though, so u're gonna have to wait quite a long time. At least the 13th gen CPU for laptop is supposed to launch in Jan 2023
@sonicboy678
@sonicboy678 Рік тому
@@ucle9955 In fairness, most of the heavy lifting -- if not all of it -- is already done for Dragon Range.
@techchanneld1113
@techchanneld1113 Рік тому
Can you try this setup again with DLSS3 and Frame Gen enabled? Maybe even include comparisons with other 4000 series cards? I saw on some boards that frame gen compensates significantly for the drop with TB3/4 bandwidth.
@lux9744
@lux9744 Рік тому
your setup of GPU, extend riser , and power supply unit is beautiful(idk what to say but maybe also I mean it save some desk/table space)
@Talesandtactics-hc6te
@Talesandtactics-hc6te 8 місяців тому
Great analysis thanks mate.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 8 місяців тому
Cheers!
@tommyb6611
@tommyb6611 Рік тому
At this moment in time for compact portable gaming, the way to go is ITX sandwich case instead of a laptop. Is not like laptops are used to play while you're on the move in the plane or train or whatever, but to unpack and plug into the mains power supply and use at the various destination locations. The laptops used on your lap far away from a power plug are those ultrabook things that you use to drop in loads of photos and do a quick photoshop edit and upload on some blog. Not for gaming. In the future I hope case manufacturers will expand the compact form factor ITX cases that have a very small depth meaning the GPU and the mobo to be installed on the same plane side by side and developing a CPU cooling system that isn't a high tower but a small height and large surface area on the horizontal plane. This will result in having a similar footprint of the 17" laptops and a a slight height increase, thus useful to carry around. With a portable 17 " monitor you end up with a full gaming rig with a volume not much larger than a gaming 17" laptop
@jaymiddleton772
@jaymiddleton772 8 місяців тому
Thanks for sharing. I think for now I'll have to buy a PC for gaming when I'm home and a seperate laptop when I'm at work
@JacobNewmen
@JacobNewmen Рік тому
best and professional presentation, thank you very much.
@abelolsen9656
@abelolsen9656 Рік тому
Do you have M.2/PCIe eGPU connector? Will it perform better, if using it? Or is Thunderbolt superior on laptops?
@dharma.vibrates
@dharma.vibrates Рік тому
Thanks for the video , can you please tell me what are the motherboards requirement for external GPUs?
@autoboto
@autoboto 10 місяців тому
Be interesting to test again with egpu external monitor instead of video data back to laptop. Considering the egpu would normally be used as a desktop usage and most people use external monitor at home/work with the laptop anyway.
@swesleyc7
@swesleyc7 8 місяців тому
Isn't that what he said he did?
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 Рік тому
Question is there a way to mode an egpu to combine 2 tb ports for double the bandwidth.?
@amikob
@amikob Рік тому
What about rendering times , vray fstorm or octane benchmark ? Many of us want to add some rendering power to our laptops or desktops would be very nice of you could make a test, since the bandwidth isn’t effecting on rendering speed as much as I know …
@OroO708
@OroO708 7 місяців тому
Any video rendering comparison?
@chrisbullock6477
@chrisbullock6477 Рік тому
Great Video. Now I'd be curious to see how an all AMD Advantage Laptop with the highest end specs like the - ROG Strix G15 Advantage Edition with Ryzen 9 5980HX / 6800M would perform with this eGPU setup. This is a great setup for anyone who's a creative or engineer/coder on the go. You could switch back and forth depending on your workload and just have you laptop in a cradle and eGPU next to it ready to go with just a Monitor and keyboard/mouse.
@nathanielrosillo7339
@nathanielrosillo7339 Рік тому
this is exactly what i'd love to see. i've searched for it many times to see if it is compatible with my 2022 g15!
@danielmoraes9637
@danielmoraes9637 9 місяців тому
Amazing review tks
@nukeclears
@nukeclears Рік тому
Shocker, eGPU's are still a terrible buy if you put anything above a low to mid range card in it. Not changing anytime soon either, seeing as TB4 has the same bandwidth as TB3.
@mingyi456
@mingyi456 Рік тому
If you put a low end card in it, it is also not that worth because the egpu enclosure costs as much as a low end card (I believe?). Honestly, I believe the best application of an egpu is for other workloads that depend less on the pcie bandwidth, such as compute, rendering or video editing. Sadly, it seems that gamers predominantly use it instead.
@bennoboy97
@bennoboy97 Рік тому
Except with the Xg Mobile from Asus 🙃
@sparkz6381
@sparkz6381 Рік тому
eGPUs are a lifestyle where you throw out performance per dollar and will never be considered for budget builds
@mingyi456
@mingyi456 Рік тому
@@sparkz6381 Also throw out raw performance as well
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 Рік тому
Unless you use pcie 4 or 5 SSDs slots.. Or disable resizable bar. I am surprised no one has yet to make and egpu that can combine 2 tb ports for double the memory as many laptops have two tb ports now?
@ChrisSonPEI
@ChrisSonPEI Рік тому
This was helpful to me. I was considering going down to just my Legion 5i pro + dock + 3080 eGPU but it seems like I won't get enough performance replace my desktop / make a difference to my laptop 3070ti.
@tanburiney1469
@tanburiney1469 Рік тому
Time is the most valuable asset in world and you saved me 1 h time researching for limitations of Thunderbolt 3-4. Thank you.
@joeymcjoeysalot6596
@joeymcjoeysalot6596 Рік тому
Great video. Thanks for always doing these egpu tests. Would love to see it paired with a 6800u laptop to see how new handhelds might perform
@flagger1
@flagger1 20 днів тому
Hello Jarrod, if it isn't too much trouble Could you do the same tests, but with this year's Zenbook to see how the bandwidth improvements improved the gameplay
@simplyme9336
@simplyme9336 Рік тому
I have a vivobook pro with i5-11300h and iris xe and thunderbolt 4. I want a egpu set up for connecting one or (if possible) two 4k monitors and maybe from time to time play a game in moderate settings. Value/performance wise what would graphics card and egpu box would make sense?
@turboimport95
@turboimport95 Рік тому
would had been nice to see you using a m.2 slot for the egpu as well because the speed would be way faster. no one I have seen has done it this way while also using a 40 series gpu. would be nice to see the results compared to the 7950x etc.
@A-xp6my
@A-xp6my 11 місяців тому
And connect eGPU to the external display to reduce overhead.
@gordon6delta709
@gordon6delta709 Рік тому
thanks for you work
@Kuziakin
@Kuziakin Рік тому
Hello. Thank you for nice review. Now I know, better to go with PC set up for 4090 and below or wait for Thunderbold ugrade.
@t-90islife95
@t-90islife95 Рік тому
I don't have a laptop or a pc but i wanna see if rog will be making a portable 4090 like they did with the 30 series that u can plug on their laptop
@nicholaswicks3077
@nicholaswicks3077 8 місяців тому
Man I wish they would improve this tech so I can take my thin laptop everywhere then plug it in to the gpu at home and play which ever game I want
@blakeparry1983
@blakeparry1983 Рік тому
next gen thunderbolt is fine and dandy, but given that the GPU enclosures have their own TB controller onboard - they will also have to be upgraded to suit. Market for them seems to be pretty much dead now
@caseymurray7722
@caseymurray7722 Рік тому
How do wifi and other usb devices affect the performance or bandwith of the USB connection? It think it would also be intersing to compare these results to a lower tier graphics cards to see if it would match the perfomance due to lmitations.
@mikejhart214
@mikejhart214 Рік тому
Pretty amazing setup for the right use case. Curious how I game stutters played out in some games. That was always the deal breaker for me. Not the cost to performance but lack of consistency in games.
@lucascarracedo7421
@lucascarracedo7421 Рік тому
To be fair, the best use case for an egpu with a high end GPU is 4K gaming at 60 fps. More resolution doesn't require more bandwidth, but more FPS do, so higher FPS isn't the best plan as it's basically choking the thunderbolt connection.
@andimarj-
@andimarj- 10 місяців тому
Great analysis, thanks!
@JulianLopezMasterRace
@JulianLopezMasterRace Місяць тому
Can you do this with the Zephyrus G14? I'm not too up-to-date on the technology. To my understanding the egpu is connected with USB4 rather than usbC thunderbolt. Is this correct? If so, does it yield similar results? thanks to whoever answers
@pavellebedev2587
@pavellebedev2587 Рік тому
Please compare content creator workloads: octane render (octane benchmark), redshift render, blender… Egpu 4090 with laptop vs desktop and 4090
@ShebanFPV
@ShebanFPV Рік тому
Thank you for the tests done. I thought to buy eGPU for 3D renders, but i will stick with my dedicated 3080 )) thank you for saving my money 🤝
@mariogonzalezgargallo5309
@mariogonzalezgargallo5309 10 місяців тому
Thank you for make this video
@Stick4569
@Stick4569 Рік тому
Thank you for testing with the monitor directly connected to eGPU card. Great update from 2020 video. I have a Radeon RTX 3070 and decent gaming desktop components on the way, and own an RTX 1080 in an eGPU setup already. I plan on running my own quick & dirty relative tests for all 4 setup combos, and will be happy to post results here if I can remember to do so. My eGPU is limited to Thunderbolt 3 though.
@cldpt
@cldpt Рік тому
I took the liberty of posting this to r/egpu. There's some discussion there already about 1 or 2 things in the analysis. First is about Halo Infinite having different behavior with bugged driver versions(522.25, this appears to have been discussed in Jarrod's Dischord). Second is about the HX variant of the 12900 mobile CPU apparently having both the PCH and Thunderbolt controller separate to the CPU, unlike 1260P and (apparently) 12x00H (no X, such as the 12900H). The later could explain the boatload of results where the 1260P had over 12900HX and is a situation that dates back to Ice Lake where the integrated PCH and controller had a noticeable improvement for eGPU use.
@neomaxizumdweebee3754
@neomaxizumdweebee3754 Рік тому
Can the test games run have rendering options set so no assets are streamed to e-gpu whilst playing and limited to the 24 GB and not to burden thunderbolt. Does that push up performance.
@tomasz5274
@tomasz5274 6 місяців тому
It seems it's better to have gaming desktop and when we like to play at laptop just to stream games from gaming desktop PC to laptop (ie. using Moonlight). Thanks for interesting video!
@oleed8516
@oleed8516 7 місяців тому
Can you show how many Gbit/s games use? Can't find this info.
@dredre9484
@dredre9484 3 місяці тому
Does the m.2 connection setup work better?
@joedidathing
@joedidathing Рік тому
can you please run an octane benchmark and post results of your score? would be good to know how fast this works for professional rendering apps, where the CPU doesn't factor in as much as games
@FaTaLxPounDin
@FaTaLxPounDin 8 місяців тому
So i have a Laptop I9 with Thunderbolt 4 with built in RTX 3080 . Would a EGPU be a good idea?
@TheRheyan14
@TheRheyan14 3 місяці тому
Hi, that benchmark you presented on Red dead redemption is exactly what I am experiencing on my laptop, I am not using an external GPU but the laptop itself and no matter what resolution I use, the fps is exactly like what you showed here. Any idea how to fix this? Thanks!
@benjiebarker
@benjiebarker 11 місяців тому
Have you tried the M.2 ports on the laptop motherboard..there is an egpu dock with M.2 cable
@tharny8yy
@tharny8yy Рік тому
I'm doing the same thing with a 4080 and am searching for power supplies - it's not ideal. (This is for ML not gaming btw.) The 4080 has a 3x8-to1x16 pcie cable and only requires 320W with a 750W PSU recommended. I plugged in 2x8 to the adapter and I think it just didn't turn on, though the Core X can support up to a 500W GPU. So now I'm going to look for a power supply with 3pcie ports and connect that to the GPU. Question - once you hooked up the extra PSU to the GPU, did the laptops recognize the GPU automatically?
@iam_you
@iam_you 8 місяців тому
Can I use eGPU for legion 5 to use unreal engine? Any recommendations?
@collegemathematics6698
@collegemathematics6698 Рік тому
Hi J., Lenovo legion slim 7 (AMD) or asus zephyrus g15? Which one is better. Also, is it real that the battery life of the slim 7 is poor as Matthew Monis say?
@darekzmarek1842
@darekzmarek1842 Рік тому
Did you try to run the setup on Windows 10 ??, I think you can disable resizable bar via NVIDIA inspector.
@RR-ho3td
@RR-ho3td Рік тому
Hey Jarrod! Can you try comparing egpu performance between midrange RTX cards and Arc cards?
@bfish9700
@bfish9700 Рік тому
Arc is pretty trash and no one is really going to be able to get one.
@lars2894
@lars2894 Рік тому
Actually ARC dGPU laptops are in abundance but no one is really going to buy one
@nokind90
@nokind90 Рік тому
will be interesting to see comparison with an amd ryzen 6000 series laptop with usb4
@leftoflove
@leftoflove Рік тому
Is there a 4090 eternal rig that uses the pcie port right now I have it mounted on a bracket on the top of my case with a pcie cable running through the case. I didn't expect this to be so big and rerunning water cooling isn't something I wanted to do as I probably can't run a mid case then
@RaidDuelist
@RaidDuelist Рік тому
i don't find anyone else doing this. Thank you for the test
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
No problem, thanks for watching!
@Snowaxe3D
@Snowaxe3D Рік тому
I wonder what would be the result of you connect it directly to the mini PCI-e or M.2 slot of the laptop, But I could be wrong, correct me if that's the case.
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo Рік тому
Maybe find which gpu is best utilized by tb3, and tb4 whenever that's more readily available.
@romainbailet6488
@romainbailet6488 Рік тому
have you put the new firmware in the razer core dedicaced to 4XXX card?
@benjiebarker
@benjiebarker 11 місяців тому
Would power options using custom power plan…adjusting processor power management, max performance, etc settings?
@mariogonzalezgargallo5309
@mariogonzalezgargallo5309 10 місяців тому
Reading coments, maybe you can try again with a modern processor with native TB4, I just bought a i7-1360p with TB4, it have a 4050 but I'm interested what is the maximum that can perform!! Thanks for your work!
@games4us132
@games4us132 Рік тому
what about creative suit tests? Like adobe premier or Maya? There we don't need high fps?
@aleksandraskontaktai
@aleksandraskontaktai Рік тому
Would be good idea to see lower tier RTX 4000 series (4050,60 or 70). Should be less significant differences (logically thinking)
@PedroPascoaPedro
@PedroPascoaPedro Рік тому
It would be nice if you could test or compare the 4090 with a lower tier gpu on the external set up
@caseyhanas3311
@caseyhanas3311 Рік тому
One of the most valuable eGPU vids I've seen, GREAT WORK!
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
thanks!
@OnYou2ube
@OnYou2ube Рік тому
I have a HP Omen 16 Amd Advantage Edition (Ryzen7/Radeon 6800) connected to a 34" Dell U3419W Monitor. I'm currently trying to maximize my prefs n sets... Any advice from a exp man? lmk. Appreciate the view.
@capitalmoving10
@capitalmoving10 Рік тому
any chance to see updated test but with laptop supporting pcie 4.0 and using external gpu with m.2 to pcie adapter (riser)? pcie 4.0 should double memory bandwidth and at least one m2 slot in laptop should be connected directly to cpu.
@meteor6124
@meteor6124 Рік тому
I love your videos, you always talk about interesting subjects !!
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Glad you like them!
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