Russian pressure builds in Bakhmut & the battle for Central Asia | Ukraine: The Latest | Podcast

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Day 370
Today, we bring you updates from the front lines, speak about daily life in Russia after more than a year of the full-scale invasion &, with Foreign Correspondent James Kilner, do a deep dive into the central asian positions and their shifting stances towards Ukraine, Russia and China
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). @djknowles22 on Twitter.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on Twitter
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on Twitter.
James Kilner (Foreign Correspondent and Editor of the Central Asia & South Caucasus Bulletin) @jkjourno on Twitter
Read more from James here: thebulletin.news/
Subscribe to The Telegraph: telegraph.co.uk/ukrainethelatest
Email: ukrainepod@telegraph.co.uk

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@steve-real
@steve-real Рік тому
Incredibly interesting podcast today fellas. well done
@edwardbernays8514
@edwardbernays8514 Рік тому
The *sheeple* are easy to please 😳
@jdghgh
@jdghgh Рік тому
This has quickly become my first choice for my daily news on the Ukraine War. Excellent work. Essential.
@stevecoblentz228
@stevecoblentz228 Рік тому
A
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Рік тому
Meanwhile while as we face multiple crises at home We concentrate on far away places Nice to see Imperialism is alive and well at the Telegraph From a small c patriotic conservative
@considerthis7712
@considerthis7712 Рік тому
Very informative. (Australia).
@markb8468
@markb8468 Рік тому
What an insightful interview! Excellent show as always.
@robbiegrant1449
@robbiegrant1449 Рік тому
Good cast. I wish that The Telegraph would also post a shareable snippet of Dominic Nicholls final thoughts. It would come in handy as a bridge topic in some discussions I have online running parallel (yet relevant) to the larger topic about Ukraine.
@peterderidder9922
@peterderidder9922 Рік тому
lots and lots of drones arrived from the states, this means a lot of ukrain lives gonna be saved. And this is good !
@DrumToTheBassWoop
@DrumToTheBassWoop Рік тому
Why the Telegraph podcasts are better than their newspaper? I don't understand.
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
And I thought these podcasts were a joke so I can't imagine how bad the actual paper is
@Chironex_Fleckeri
@Chironex_Fleckeri Рік тому
I listen to these at work. It's sometimes distracting because it's one of the best examples of journalism in our times. This coverage is very important for future understanding of the events of this war, and it got me thinking a lot about historiography in general. Wars are complex beyond belief, and we've seen footage that is difficult to emotionally process to put it lightly. For me the stories out of Ukraine punch me in the gut. I think Ukraine was doing all it could to resist Russian soft power. Russia somewhat successfully got the world to move on after Crimea and 8 years of ongoing low-intensity but deadly conflict in Donbas. It's clear to see Ukraine's path before the war was always leaning toward the EU, a perfectly rational and pro-Ukrainian policy. These fundamental questions about national policies that would affect every Ukrainian - well they were an overwhelming majority. Maidan, public opinion polls. And now within Ukraine we've seen political divisions melt away, and the same is true on the issue of supporting Ukraine. America, the UK, Baltic States, Poland, and other countries have made it perfectly clear how it feels like a sea change within the West is taking place. In American politics, Senator McConnell used plain language and set the tone for bipartisanship on the issue of Ukraine. The MIC in several world powers is revving up to levels of procurement that are in line with confronting both Russia and China. I think the story that's somewhat unrelated to Ukraine but no doubt wouldn't have happened without the Russian invasion and the ensuing of what I can only call a time to choose sides for the next generations. South Korea and Japan publicly announced the possibility of acquiring a nuclear deterrent. I think these developments are inseparable from Ukraine, but it seems the deals between the Philippines and the US are a sign that there will be a massively increased USN presence and mission capability. US soldiers on Taiwanese soil. There doesn't seem to be a status quo; there hasn't been time to establish one with all the rapid changes. There has been a huge display of Western soft power in the last year. It's something I've never witnessed. The Taiwan Standoff is heating up because of Russian attempts to annex sovereign territory. Beyond the general scope of the podcast but 2022 and early 2023 have marked a major geopolitical development.
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
Repeating a story on CNN is not journalism. Quoting a general from last week is not a fact on the ground.
@APW554
@APW554 Рік тому
Agreed everyone needs to look at where products are made and make sure they support Ukraine before buying.
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
@@APW554 so where can we buy Toyotas from? America?
@donnacollins1356
@donnacollins1356 Рік тому
GLORY to Ukraine 🌻💪💪🙏🌻
@denismunro214
@denismunro214 Рік тому
If the central Asian states, and China, are acting as intermediaries for illegal imports it will be hard to stop but western countries will, I hope, step up surveillance of this form of trade. The pre-February 2022 level of imports through these countries could be a baseline to establish more recent “spikes” in purchases.
@sumiland6445
@sumiland6445 Рік тому
I've already decided I will NOT buy anything "made in china" even if it's my ONLY choice. I will go without!!
@hdjsjeuueue1812
@hdjsjeuueue1812 Рік тому
They are already doing it. My relatives trade through Kazakhstan to Russia😪.
@xy6845
@xy6845 Рік тому
I've wondered for a longer time how the free world will be able to help Central Asia against these rising authoritarian threats, since it had for a longer time obviously been largely forgotten by the western powers as this kind of "post-soviet Russian backyard", sharing a similar history of being under the Russian thumb as the Caucasus region or obviously Ukraine. Not even talking about Myanmar here. I'm very worried countries like Kazakhstan, home to such great freedom-loving people just like Ukraine, might fall prey to authoritarian agression as well if it can't keep strong ties outside of Russia, China or Iran let's say. There's many examples like that. I think we should learn from different past strategies and put 2 and 2 together here.
@robertsteele474
@robertsteele474 Рік тому
Jumping the gun aren't we? NATO hasn't completed its latest failure yet.
@yoxat1
@yoxat1 Рік тому
US recently attempted a coup in Kazakhstan. It failed
@dgranik4839
@dgranik4839 Рік тому
The Authoritarian aggression which most impacts the Citizens of the Central Asian Republics is from their own, respective leadership, which are all quite despotic and absolute in nature. The "'Stans" are all ethnic based Nations, but they function more as tribes than as actual states. There has really never been any history of civic society in the region, except when they were incorporated within one Empire or another.
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Рік тому
Free World what a delusion Lol We have the best party machines Money can buy Free World indeed
@dan_taninecz_geopol
@dan_taninecz_geopol Рік тому
These are long enough that chapters would be really awesome and helpful.
@StridentSloth
@StridentSloth Рік тому
Biden should make some trips to Central Asia. We really need allies there right now. We had a great strategic base in Afghanistan but we mismanaged that situation horribly.
@steve-real
@steve-real Рік тому
Afghanistan was a drain on Western coffers. We have much better drone tech and a few spies are better then whole armies.
@SamtheIrishexan
@SamtheIrishexan Рік тому
And offer what exactly? China has cornered what political capital does not belong to Russia. Unfortunately central Asia will likely just continue to be used by those two for resources through neo-colonialism.
@Kangenpower7
@Kangenpower7 Рік тому
When that Congress woman went to Taiwan, the Chinese got all upset. If the President where to travel to Taiwan, the Chinese could say "This is enough to provoke us to invade right now". That would not go over very well in China.
@johnwelsh6065
@johnwelsh6065 Рік тому
No chance. They despise the lying West. And rightly.
@marcm.
@marcm. Рік тому
I think the experience of the Kurds is an example that the central Asian states are not going to forget. Regardless of how they feel about the Kurds, they realize the United States has no interest in maintaining long-term relations, and depending on who's in power they could easily get backstabbed or find that the support is not there when they actually need it... United States is not even a reliable fair weather friend. It is this, more than anything else, that has hurt our cause in the central Asian states
@alanchristensen5735
@alanchristensen5735 Рік тому
The Belt and Road strategy is already in progress. China is benefiting from the diminished Russian power.
@niklaswikholm514
@niklaswikholm514 Рік тому
Premium reporting!
@bezdownunder5481
@bezdownunder5481 Рік тому
I thought the road bridge part was now fully repaired no.
@patrickchapman5133
@patrickchapman5133 Рік тому
I worked in Central Asia in the early 2000’s. I agree with the reporting here. That said, on a scale of 1-10, I think Central Asia is a 2 in terms of importance. The Central Asian countries are run by proud autocrats who align for convenience, but prefer their independence above Russia and certainly more than China. They are and will be tepid supporters of the nations that solve their near term interests which is stability and independence.
@Redkat-tv3cw
@Redkat-tv3cw Рік тому
Humans have had a good run, thanks for the updates on all this stuff.
@American-In-Mykolaiv
@American-In-Mykolaiv Рік тому
Evolution of intelligence seems to doom the species, perhaps the reason we are alone.
@FrancisHegarty
@FrancisHegarty Рік тому
If this podcast is anything to go by, we deserve to be extinguished, we're devolving at a rapid rate.
@Redkat-tv3cw
@Redkat-tv3cw Рік тому
@@FrancisHegarty oh we are all gonna die bruh.
@dan_taninecz_geopol
@dan_taninecz_geopol Рік тому
Kazakhstan is really a country to watch here. The new leadership is seemingly of a similar generational mindset as Ukraine's.
@SL-sd3sg
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
I hope so
@JP-fn5xt
@JP-fn5xt Рік тому
Seems the former administration glued the wallpaper.
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
The first fact on the ground is a quote from a general from a week ago? Any update on the promise to send some help? It's been a week.
@rocambole93
@rocambole93 Рік тому
great reports but i still have trouble to understand James heavy british accent at times
@Grzyb032
@Grzyb032 Рік тому
"over the kerch bridge, (mind the gaps)"🤣
@justinstevenson5807
@justinstevenson5807 Рік тому
Dom at his finest. Lol
@sumiland6445
@sumiland6445 Рік тому
💛💙💜💙💛
@defuse56
@defuse56 Рік тому
Check out Dom's wry Brit humor @ 4:50 : "Drive across the Kerch Bridge (mind the gaps). . ". ROFL!
@APW554
@APW554 Рік тому
Everyone needs to buy products from places that support Ukraine .
@terranrepublic7023
@terranrepublic7023 Рік тому
Finally someone who has etcetera as his middle name
@stephensipe5405
@stephensipe5405 Рік тому
Central Asia as an area of a Cold War/Economic War between China and the US offers a unique opportunity. US has little to know direct interest. However, these Central Asian countries do not want to be the “Central America” of Asia. Therefore, the US can offer management and organizational skills to create a Common Market of Central Asia. In this regard, Turkei could be key. The US can help in several ways. 1-Organized of all interested area countries in a Committee where the US would only be a consultant advisor. 2-As consultant, the US could set up a common currency policy so member States could maintain a consistent inflation level before creating single currency. It could be backed by a package of hard currencies and gold. This would give the Committee a basis that offer bonds for common development projects. 3-After 10 years of mutual cooperation, a NATO like command could be considered. 4-Of course the US could be directly involved with advice/aid on pipeline technology, railroad technology, and highway development.
@dancornell7171
@dancornell7171 Рік тому
CORRECTION: the longest border in the world is between the United States and Canada; Land border: Canada's border with the United States is the world's longest international border, at 8,890 km. This compares with the 6,846-km boundary between Russia and Kazakhstan and the 5,308-km frontier between Chile and Argentina.
@annemari
@annemari Рік тому
Except he said "continuous" border, and the USA-Canada border is split, with 2,475km along Alaska, leaving 6,415km continuous vs the uninterrupted Russia-Kazakhstan border.
@wesley135
@wesley135 Рік тому
💙Slava ukraini 💛🇺🇦🇺🇸🇵🇷
@SL-sd3sg
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
💙💛🇬🇧
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Рік тому
China and Russia have been cooperating closely on misinformation for more than five years, but especially during the past 24 months. Russia is really teaching China how to create more effective misinformation campaigns and China is helping Russia learn how to surveil, suppress and counter domestic dissent.
@Kangenpower7
@Kangenpower7 Рік тому
If Turkey does not want to be a part of NATO with new members, we need to let Turkey know they can leave the NATO that includes the new country, but not Turkey. Somehow I do not think that position will go over well with the public in Turkey. I think that most people who live in Turkey would much rather be a part of NATO, than to get out because they are absolutely not liking being a part of NATO that will includes Sweden.
@yoxat1
@yoxat1 Рік тому
Turkey has the advantage. It is strategically vital and has the biggest army.
@yoxat1
@yoxat1 Рік тому
Also, let us remember the US recently attempted a coup in Turkey. It failed.
@ClaireNorgate
@ClaireNorgate Рік тому
The United States had no involvement in the 2016 attempted coup in Turkey and promptly condemned it. Recent assertions to the contrary made by senior Turkish officials are wholly false.
@martingolay4689
@martingolay4689 Рік тому
I think we should wait until the election, Erdogan could lose it and this is likly to remove the block.
@tadeuszburkiewicz8655
@tadeuszburkiewicz8655 Рік тому
Natural resources dictates that China will absorb Russia into its orbit. Equally important for the rest of the world is that Kazakstan should be honoured by all nations on this planet for what it can provide to mitigate the immense damage that climate change is doing to all of mankind which collectively all the richest nations are mainly to blame !
@prrrromotiongiven1075
@prrrromotiongiven1075 Рік тому
I think people are overestimating China's ability to casually satellite a country the size, population, and economic strength of Russia, comparable to the biggest and best European nations. Yes they will increase their influence but turning them into a de facto puppet regime, no chance. China struggles to assert soft power even in the likes of Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, much smaller countries very close to them...
@yoxat1
@yoxat1 Рік тому
Get real. Climate change is a scam for money and control. Sgtudhy the science. The sun makes climate change. Sometimes the earth is a snowball. Sometimes a thriving tropical jungle
@cinnaminson0653
@cinnaminson0653 Рік тому
Climate change is utter BS.
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
Is there a huge military advantage to having a second drone launch site even closer to your enemy's heart?
@Kangenpower7
@Kangenpower7 Рік тому
Some of the drones that carry a small bomb need to be launched as close to the destination as possible. (the plane might have a 200 mile range or 10 mile range). They can be launched from almost anyplace, there is no real need for something like a conventional airport to launch a drone. Just 200 feet of paved street will work well. The problem is they typically do not want anyone to know where their drone launch area is, and they need to relocate that launch area several times per day. Most modern tracking radar can determine where the start location is for a plane flying in the air. Also the aircraft can not be tracked at all if it is launched and goes to the target and blows up all within 8 minutes! If it has to fly from a known airport to the site, and that takes 30 - 90 minutes, they can determine when it was launched, and it's path, and how to shoot it down. Basically the more time the plane is in the air, the more likely they do get detected, and could have anti-aircraft fire towards the plane.
@regolith1350
@regolith1350 Рік тому
I’m sorry but the new Rishi Sunak soundbite is as flat as the previous one. It just... has no punch LOL. Other than that, keep up the great work!
@annemari
@annemari Рік тому
At least it's more on-topic. One step at a time.
@osric1730
@osric1730 Рік тому
Western arrogance has greatly contributed to China's willingness to put its thumb on the scales in Russia's favour. The ever present narrative that Russia needs to be defeated as essential to containing China and its ambitions in Taiwan have been monumentally self defeating. The strategy should have been an entirely utilitarian charm offensive against the Chinese regardless of the standpoint of the threat posed by China simply on the grounds that China can wait. This is not 1990. The West is nowhere near as militarily and economically dominant as it once was, nor as ideologically united. Russian disinformation over the last 20 years has been remarkably successful, Western public opinion has been massively shaken by the lies of the Iraq war era and a generation of economic hardship. Large chunks of the Western population have no fat to weather further economic hardship and the Western economic system has been kept afloat by financial sleights of hand. The West simply does not have the wherewithal to take on both Russia militarily and China economically in response to Chinese support of Russia. The West's sabre rattling at China in the current climate represents a complete failure to recognise the challenges that the West faces in this battle for ideological and economic dominance and hubris is a vanity we can ill afford.
@cinnaminson0653
@cinnaminson0653 Рік тому
Wait, did I miss something and is China communist again?
@APW554
@APW554 Рік тому
Everyone should only buy from places that support Ukraine . China, India top of the list for not buying from even if it means walking around barefoot wearing a grass skirt…..
@osric1730
@osric1730 Рік тому
@@APW554 That's not a million miles from what it would take. Russia is just about doable without massive pain, but not China. Not only does it have a vast chunk of the global manufacturing base, but it has also spent the last 20 years shoveling money into countries that were reliant on Western investment 30 years ago. The West on the other hand has shoveled its money into the offshore bank accounts of corporations and oligarchs.
@bezdownunder5481
@bezdownunder5481 Рік тому
The electric trains aren't running for troop redeployment was russias objective...
@wacojones8062
@wacojones8062 Рік тому
Bakhmut may be baited trapped waiting to slam shut on the Orcs.
@gregorypaul6363
@gregorypaul6363 Рік тому
Psalm 144: 5 Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down: touch the mountains, and they shall smoke. 6 Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them. - Bible Offline
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
The dead can't retreat.
@KingCold1986
@KingCold1986 Рік тому
Good cast! Russian still only care about themselfs :(
@snowlion6557
@snowlion6557 Рік тому
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦 AND UKRAINIAN AND THEIR BRAVE , FEARLESS ARMY 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@paweturysta8617
@paweturysta8617 Рік тому
Day 370 😱
@rossmcleod8381
@rossmcleod8381 Рік тому
If Bakhmut is irrelevant militarily why is Ukraine sending resources to be slaughtered ? It's insane !
@oleksii8182
@oleksii8182 Рік тому
Because russia is wasting troops on it and not using them elsewhere.
@oleksii8182
@oleksii8182 Рік тому
@@robert-de-calvary they're taking territory by drowning our positions in their bodies, seems to be a long time russian favorite tactic. Sure, they have more men. But how many more would be willing to become cannon fodder so that Putin could mark a victory over a destroyed town or two?
@dcdk1525
@dcdk1525 Рік тому
Keeper em Coming - Slava Ukraini
@kubaebo6930
@kubaebo6930 Рік тому
Who is fooling who?
@richardcopnall8306
@richardcopnall8306 Рік тому
A little bit a about the latest from Ukraine but it seems that mostly its about anywhere else. Today Kstan and China.
@darrenbolam1798
@darrenbolam1798 Рік тому
🇦🇺👍
@gerritzondag1585
@gerritzondag1585 Рік тому
someone get james a better mic. my gosh
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Рік тому
Meanwhile in the channel 🙄
@drreaganeliedithphd6526
@drreaganeliedithphd6526 Рік тому
Turquie doit accepter Suède. Suède a la droit de dire leur op opinion de musulmans
@allancoel5832
@allancoel5832 Рік тому
12:47
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
And speaking about irrelevance how about quoting someone on CNN. No facts on the ground here.
@Interglacial_optimist
@Interglacial_optimist Рік тому
Could your first spokesmodel come up with 10 more ways to describe the irrelevance of Bakhmut. Other than 20,000 Ukrainian soldiers died there... Describing the irrelevance of a military objective is your opinion and not a fact on the ground.
@elvismiller366
@elvismiller366 Рік тому
Russia should be ousted from NATO
@FrancisHegarty
@FrancisHegarty Рік тому
NATO should have disbanded decades ago.
@forsalestuff1036
@forsalestuff1036 Рік тому
They were never in it. Your lack of understanding yet willingness to comment is exactly why we have problems.
@Chexsum
@Chexsum Рік тому
can someone tell putin whats going on?
@Chexsum
@Chexsum Рік тому
worldwide, ancient and always in stealth
@user-di5bz3bp9b
@user-di5bz3bp9b Рік тому
China?
@HungryGhost999
@HungryGhost999 Рік тому
Go on ?
@HungryGhost999
@HungryGhost999 Рік тому
We all know where Chinese allegiances lie. CCP is a poison spouting rat just like Putin. Their tactics are just slightly more effective only because of their calmer rhetoric. We all know the ruthlessness of the CCP.
@tayasir3176
@tayasir3176 Рік тому
@@HungryGhost999 it’s a🤖
@user-di5bz3bp9b
@user-di5bz3bp9b Рік тому
@@HungryGhost999 "we"means who? "all" means what?
@MrTatRus
@MrTatRus Рік тому
RUSSIA ALREADY TAKE THE BAKHMUT
@Balmorax
@Balmorax Рік тому
Guys, there's no video.
@PELEGON1
@PELEGON1 Рік тому
There never is, it is simply a verbal podcast. Listen while pottering around doing something else. Multi task ? Enjoy.
@HungryGhost999
@HungryGhost999 Рік тому
@@PELEGON1 he does it every episode. He’s mentally challenged
@HungryGhost999
@HungryGhost999 Рік тому
Maybe invest in a screen repair 😂
@American-In-Mykolaiv
@American-In-Mykolaiv Рік тому
@@HungryGhost999 Yes, he needs a more powerful computer!
@Balmorax
@Balmorax Рік тому
@@PELEGON1 I do that now since it seems I don't have a PC powerful enough to display video.
@user-ll2bk2tz4s
@user-ll2bk2tz4s Рік тому
And my relatives in Donetsk are even joking. If for 9 years the Ukrainian shells did not hit their apartment, then they will be lucky further.. They live on the 9th floor. In case of a direct hit, they will not have time to go down
@American-In-Mykolaiv
@American-In-Mykolaiv Рік тому
Only Russians are aiming for occupied buildings. Good try, lil' girl!
@kubaebo6930
@kubaebo6930 Рік тому
Zelensky has allowed himself to be used and his country destroyed, what a foolishness. This is pure weakednes to use Ukrain to fight Russia. Unfortunately when the time comes, America will abandon them like they did in Afghanistan.
@yoxat1
@yoxat1 Рік тому
So right. US stabs them all in the back.
@Richard.Holmquist
@Richard.Holmquist Рік тому
And feeding Hungary and Czechoslovakia to the Soviets in earlier decades.
@warnpassion
@warnpassion Рік тому
I fully agree with your last sentence.
@drreaganeliedithphd6526
@drreaganeliedithphd6526 Рік тому
Fake news de Russie et Chine
@devilishdeed
@devilishdeed Рік тому
Ukraine is losing.
@Sofia-yr5ih
@Sofia-yr5ih Рік тому
Если быть точнее, то Байден и вся его банда
@AslanW
@AslanW Рік тому
- he said confidently based on absolutely zero evidence
@SoundtrackAudioCom
@SoundtrackAudioCom Рік тому
Your comment won't age well ...
@HungryGhost999
@HungryGhost999 Рік тому
And Jesus is touring Beirut currently performing with Coldplay
@tonygonzalez958
@tonygonzalez958 Рік тому
100 % correct the us needs to keep out of it
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