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КОМЕНТАРІ: 689
@jamesdavies686
@jamesdavies686 3 роки тому
I realize it's only been a little over a year, but you should do this same video again as a revisit with some same and some new brands. Since bait and switch happens so often in the parts world, would be interesting to see if the cheap stuff still holds up today.
@cerglabs3646
@cerglabs3646 2 роки тому
Excellent suggestion.
@fmburner
@fmburner Рік тому
Should throw kingbo in the mix
@FranckBossi
@FranckBossi Рік тому
2 years now
@3nertia
@3nertia Рік тому
I would like to second this ...
@trevorwhite9138
@trevorwhite9138 4 роки тому
Thanks, this was a really useful video. Having all the links really helped me find the best product and the easiest for me to order.
@ericeschborn1315
@ericeschborn1315 2 роки тому
thanks for sharing! As a hobbyist who only really has warmed my tip to soldering, it's refreshing to have such insightful videos
@fishyrider3528
@fishyrider3528 4 роки тому
Point to point old radio oxidized joints. Need the test. Great job. Good to have you back. Hello from Romania.
@585585MC
@585585MC Рік тому
for me this is a wonderful channel. great tests, great video quality, great audio, great voice and speaking ability.
@deangreenhough1178
@deangreenhough1178 2 роки тому
Absolutely superb analysis. Many thanks for the work and effort that went into this video. Off to buy the CIF flux as recommended. Many thanks Steve
@hoggif
@hoggif 3 роки тому
Banggood yellow tub melts at (or below) 100C. I melted it and poured in syringes. Quite cheap and seems to work well. You get quite a few syringes out of a tub of that!
@Shay_Nichol
@Shay_Nichol 2 роки тому
Since watching this video when it was released I've been using CIF at work and it's helped a lot! thank you!
@habtamusium8646
@habtamusium8646 Рік тому
it was my gap to identify the flux and know how to apply them for my new business plan , now i begin my 1st step . many thanks ! lovely work .
@MikeyMack303
@MikeyMack303 10 місяців тому
In my experience, over many years, the amber flux paste is a great go to for best performance, no matter what label. Thank you for sharing that with us.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 3 роки тому
Excellent video! I am new to SMD soldering... so, I got a couple of soldering paste and flux - but they didn't perform as nicely as the best ones you've shown, BY FAR! I thought it was just my inexperience, my lack of technique, but your video showed quite some difference between them, I am purchasing the ones you recommended and then I can be sure what is my fault :) Thanks!
@anastasiosbetzelos4954
@anastasiosbetzelos4954 4 роки тому
Just wanted to say thank you for the very useful info and for your time spent on this video!! Subscribed to the channel in a nutshell after checking your other videos as well!!
@AmeyJadiye
@AmeyJadiye Рік тому
Thanks for such a nice demo, it's quite useful even after two years to understand the in-out of the usability of flux. I have tried a few cheap fluxes with bad results. for me, the liquid one turned out to be the best one. thanks again for your guidance. I was also expecting this to be tried on raw copper endpoints to see the effectiveness.
@rangwankasantikul9223
@rangwankasantikul9223 4 роки тому
I guess it might be a great idea to rerun the tests on a non-plated copper boards. That's a better way to test the flux's ability to deal with oxides.
@larsgregersen
@larsgregersen 4 роки тому
Thank you for this demonstration. Especially for showing the effect (or lack thereof) of not using flux at all!
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
SOIC is about the limit for using no flux, but I have a video coming shortly for SMD IC soldering 👍
@ocobotec
@ocobotec 2 роки тому
Excellent video, I had been watching videos of solder paste all afternoon and this one is really worth watching.
@danfreeman8225
@danfreeman8225 2 роки тому
Outstanding vid! Great layout, info and timing. Also excellent layout of links! I might suggest a couple things that might help. It could be handy to know the details of the solder you used and the temp (if you had a way to measure) and having video times next to the list in the description. Thanks so much, it really helped!
@helenh9563
@helenh9563 Рік тому
Love this video, thanks so much! I do would like more emphasis on environmental impact of the different fluxes.
@subukai
@subukai 3 роки тому
Thanks for the review. I ordered some of the Yellow Solder paste. It will probably take a couple weeks to get to me but the price was right.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 4 роки тому
Excellent comparison. Very helpful.
@allallall2321
@allallall2321 3 роки тому
HUITA
@electronicsoverhaul
@electronicsoverhaul 4 роки тому
Chip Quik SMD291 is great for soldering on ICs. It has a low viscosity, a greasy consistency. SMD4300TF10 is good for whatever else. Amtech does leave a sticky residue I don't like. When you heat the flux, it’s very transparent making it easy to see what you're doing. These are good for phones and small SMD work. I think rosin-based flux is fine for just about everything but can be harder to see for the small stuff with it's yellow coloring or becoming browner with heat. Rosin doesn't evaporate and smoke as quickly as Amtech. You can heat rosin to 500C, and it won't evaporate. It can turn darker as it heats up with use as you slide the solder iron around it more. Use what you like for whatever applications.
@Nanospear
@Nanospear Рік тому
Excellent video, I enjoyed the demonstration with each product. Kudos!
@OriginalMergatroid
@OriginalMergatroid 2 роки тому
Excellent video. I have been using MG Chemicals flux pen that is a liquid flux. This is the stuff Nintendo recommended to us about two decades ago. I never did like it much and it was constantly bridging, especially on the last few pins. If course, those ships had over 100 pins so the gap between the pins was smaller. I just ordered some MG No Clean solder paste before coming across your video. I am happy it performed well in your tests. I would love to see some examples of how to resolder a BGA chip using this flux.
@jerryrojas5216
@jerryrojas5216 2 роки тому
This was a great & well done video! Thank you for the great reviews & results breakdown
@What_I_Make
@What_I_Make 4 роки тому
Your analogy on the fluid is spot on. As a part of the soldering I carried out at work, we looked at this and using the microscope could see the heat from the soldering iron directly burning off or evaporating the adjacent flux. I do have a concern with the thin consistency. Originally and at home, I use a thick paste and found, and in both cases, they last a very long time. With the thinner paste, it is tough to administer by hand, and because the density is lower gets used up very quickly. This may be my method, but there was a definite consumption at work between the two.
@KimoKimochii
@KimoKimochii Рік тому
by the flux lasting long does it become so thick it’s unusable? i find after a few minutes the flux gets so dried and thick on the board i need it clean it off and reapply
@Zellonous
@Zellonous Місяць тому
the great thing about tubs is being able to dip wires into them for wire tinning, etc.
@Galactus314
@Galactus314 2 роки тому
These fluxes were all tested on surface mount components, using PCBs with no vias. When heated, they all turn to liquid, and near by vias could drain it away. The liquid fluxes you can clearly see evaporating along the right edge at 6:20 and 6:50 respectively. They seems to have very limited uses. As someone else commented, I'm curious how the SRA No Clean Tacky Flux could handle those condtions. Also, I do a fair amount of through-hole soldering, and literally all of these fluxes are simply too thin for that. So I'm seeing a good case for another video. Boards with vias, the SRA flux, and something for the THT crowd (zinc chloride, as well as non-ZCl). Thanks!
@ivanr5315
@ivanr5315 6 місяців тому
Although an old video, it is really useful. I used to use the amtech fake flux for years and recently tried the CIF. The CIF leaves a sticky residue that in my opinion needs to be cleaned. Fortunately it is easy to clean.
@cdyoutoob
@cdyoutoob 3 роки тому
Would be good to see this done after 12-18 month with a broader range of fluxes. Perhaps ask viewers to submit flux suggestions. And also to have a review panels of other engineers / friends score the solutions. Could show off the corrosion of the test boards done from a year before so we can access long term viability of solder.
@jamesdavies686
@jamesdavies686 3 роки тому
Watching this again it's interesting how the solder climbs the component leg on some but not other fluxes, even if the flux did well with no bridges.
@WACkZerden
@WACkZerden 9 місяців тому
very informative and satisfying to watch. thank you for doing this.
@els1f
@els1f 4 роки тому
Man, your channel is incredible! So much great info 👍
@imqqmi
@imqqmi 2 роки тому
Agreed, it's a goldmine of info!
@tonybell1597
@tonybell1597 4 роки тому
Excellent work, thanks, its always been the source of dilemma: "Which flux is best", heard across You Tube repair channels, so this is some really excellent advice, many thanks....
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
My testing is probably in no way authoritative, but hopefully it gives some reference for anyone unsure. Thanks
@johnyang799
@johnyang799 4 роки тому
@@sdgelectronics Can we get a test of how fast does the flux get boiled off?
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
@@johnyang799 yes, coming soon
@gervaisdube1843
@gervaisdube1843 3 роки тому
Very helpfull for a beginner like me and a nice demo of soldering technique for those components. Thanks!
@joepangit6938
@joepangit6938 2 роки тому
The yellow tub of Bangood flux is really nice, and can ship from USA. The only down side to it, is that a brand new one weighs 113 grams including the container. So it's maybe 100g, not the 150g they sell it as.
@wartlme
@wartlme 2 роки тому
Glad I found the video. This reminds me of "Project Farm" but for electronics. Just an honest review of products.
@Royal_LXIX
@Royal_LXIX 3 місяці тому
Nice! Thanks for the video, been looking for a breakdown of the different fluxes. That third paste was real bad haha, looked like it bridged the last like 4 pins as well
@fahedkhan3008
@fahedkhan3008 2 роки тому
You are a very good analyst. Very good video. Hats off.
@Sherifone78
@Sherifone78 4 роки тому
One of best videos ever, best explanation. Thanks, subscribed
@The.Doctor.Venkman
@The.Doctor.Venkman 4 роки тому
Thanks, Steve.
@frankpitochelli6786
@frankpitochelli6786 Рік тому
I often use a flux pen, it looks like a felt tip.... you push down on the tip and it soaks the tip....then it's applied to the joint to be soldered, however, for me it doesn't seem to work as well as the paste type fluxes, but it does the job....the syringe type fluxes can be tricky since they tend to glob it out per sae. But, IMO....most fluxes work just as well as the next, alot has to do with soldering techniques as well. Thank you for all the technical video's that you put together, they are alot of work for you tubers...but are very informative.!
@CarlosMartinez-px9xo
@CarlosMartinez-px9xo 10 місяців тому
Hi, awesome video! I'm from Latin America and I've seen many weird fluxes. Some can ruin a board, like when liquid amber flux dripped on a hard drive and dissolved the copper. Sadly, I didn't see it for a month or two, so it was too late. I suggest trying a good board and switching pads between isolated and connected ones. This can act as a heatsink, change the performance, and show more differences between the fluxes.
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 4 роки тому
OMFG, i'm in love with your channel already. I was thinking about using Amtech NC-559 as well, great you have a comparison. I'm a new subscriber. Thanks and keep up the great work!
@fibranijevidra
@fibranijevidra 4 роки тому
Nice comparison. It would be great if you could make v2 with other comparisons mentioned in the comments. You already have all those fluxes, so it would not take much effort.
@BaronVonBeef
@BaronVonBeef 3 роки тому
Just ordered some of the banggood yellow flux paste because of this video
@jamescole3152
@jamescole3152 Рік тому
What a great video. I would have never guessed that is how it is done.
@DoctoreDoom
@DoctoreDoom 3 роки тому
Thank you for making this video, you have a great channel!
@ristomatti
@ristomatti 4 роки тому
I'm just starting with SMD soldering (or planning to do so for long) and this was extremely useful information. The brand/price overlays over the different options and again on the results was brilliant. So easy to compare. Talking pace and speech clarity also spot on. Great work, thank you! Two things I would have liked to hear (or missed): 1) what type of solder was used, 2) is the shelf life of the flux jars longer than on the ones that come in a tube? With the little time I have, it might be weeks or a month between I solder anything requiring flux. It's quite frustrating as the manufacturers state the shelf life to be only months. I've seen tips of reactivating old flux with IPA (maybe it was also on your channel?) but I've yet to try it.
@paulgrodkowski3412
@paulgrodkowski3412 Рік тому
Yes, Italian's are goog engieers!
@ristomatti
@ristomatti Рік тому
How is this related to my comment 3 years back? My questions are still valid btw. I've yet to have the time (or need) to get into SMD. 😬
@paulgrodkowski3412
@paulgrodkowski3412 Рік тому
@@ristomatti My apologies.
@sammccormick1
@sammccormick1 Рік тому
I got some of the Chinese flux, which is very sticky and seems to be based on a type of paraffin wax. I mixed it with some (15% ish) mineral oil (corn oil in my case) and achieved a soft butter-like consistency that allows it to be loaded into a syringe, It performed the same as in the video however it was much easier to handle coming from a syringe. I used a 1mm metal tip on the syringe. Cost for 10 cc was approx $0.85 (115cc of flux cost $11 inc delivery). I am sure other types of mineral oil will produce similar results.
@TechnologyHive
@TechnologyHive 27 днів тому
Very nice comparison! Thanks for sharing!
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 2 роки тому
Very good video. My (genuine) Amtech NC-559-V2-TF comes out a little more tacky then the one in the video though, which I found interesting.
@abdulwaaseihsultan7733
@abdulwaaseihsultan7733 2 роки тому
Really detailed. Hats off
@hifiguy77
@hifiguy77 2 місяці тому
Excellent presentation form and content! Thank you!
@Hackvlog
@Hackvlog 4 роки тому
I used to use some other liquid flux, but can't remember which brand it was. It had same properties as the ones you tested: More flux was needed for larger IC's. It either boiled away or spread so much, there wasn't enough flux around the last pins. Practice will make it better, but main cause is the properties of the flux. In my opinion liquid flux is very easy and quick to apply. I'll add TK83 to my shopping list, thanks to your video! Well done with the comparison!
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
I think the liquid fluxes just aren't as suited to this particular style of soldering. It would be great for BGA style work as the liquid is drawn into gaps easily. It also cleaned off very easily. Thanks
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 4 роки тому
Thanks Steve! Here lately I have been using Chip Quik SMD291 No Clean Tack Flux for SMD work. It seems to work great.
@pa4tim
@pa4tim 4 роки тому
I used that too, I loved it but Farnell took it out of their assortment. Now I use the Topnik TK83 (after trying several others). It is not as good as the Chip Quik but good enough. I liked the tacky stuff because it holds the component on its place (i use it professional for repair work)
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
I used to use several different Chip Quik fluxes, but I noticed Farnell have dropped many of their lines, so it's not as easily available.
@pa4tim
@pa4tim 4 роки тому
@@sdgelectronics OK, you are right, it does not make sense to test it, if it is hard to get. I hated that I needed to find a replacement because the stuff is not cheap and I did not like the most I tested. The same goes for solder. Thanks, this was very interesting video.
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 4 роки тому
pa4tim I am just a hobbyist but I am starting to get pretty good at microsoldering and using my rework station. I also try to always use my board preheater. The preheater makes rework easier for me.
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 4 роки тому
SDG Electronics Hmm, sounds like Chip Quik needs to get on the ball! They are losing money!
@rectify2003
@rectify2003 2 роки тому
Brilliant review
@rickshabin
@rickshabin 3 роки тому
Informative. Professionally made.Good.
@rubenmejia4881
@rubenmejia4881 8 місяців тому
Do you have or plan to make an updated video with more different fluxes?
@pentachronic
@pentachronic 4 роки тому
Very useful video. I've been using a liquid MG rosin flux for the last 5+ years and It's worked well but leaves a horrible residue which I have to laboriously clean with alcohol. Was looking for a newer style flux and your review has been very helpful. Just ordered through one of your links. Thanks.
@allanknox8216
@allanknox8216 2 роки тому
CHANGE TO OA FLUX! You'll never look back.
@nerijusk9598
@nerijusk9598 2 роки тому
@@allanknox8216 what is OA flux?
@allanknox8216
@allanknox8216 2 роки тому
@@nerijusk9598 OA flux stands for "Organic acid" it has stuff like citric and phosphoric acids - all water soluble. It's pretty aggressive and completely cleaned with warm water - no solvents. I only switched because every CM I worked with was already using it. Rosin flux has been out of favor for a long time. Chine uses no-clean to save money.
@bobtronic73
@bobtronic73 3 місяці тому
Thanks for doing this comparison.
@almosawi32
@almosawi32 4 роки тому
Yes, it is very useful, thanks for this tutorial
@HappyHands.
@HappyHands. Рік тому
Thank You for doing this comparison
@timbiddulph
@timbiddulph 5 днів тому
Genuinely useful video, thanks!
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 3 роки тому
Very great review and explanation!
@amirhossein6372
@amirhossein6372 5 місяців тому
That was so informative. You should do the same comparison with solder pastes!
@thetraindriver01
@thetraindriver01 4 місяці тому
Great review, thanks for the effort 👍
@jiribekr
@jiribekr Рік тому
Many thanks for the extensive test! Bought 10pcs of fake Amtech NC-223-ASM based on Your test, and regret nothing. Much better than liquid fluxes and rosin I used before.
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics Рік тому
Thanks! Glad it works for you
@decem_unosquattro9538
@decem_unosquattro9538 10 місяців тому
I started using Amtec - 559 -ASM - TF Expiry date June 8, 2023. I ordered it and it arrived 13 April 2023. I paid 79.91 AUD which to me was insane. Now its $198.12 which is really insane. 😂 I might get the CIF next. Thanks for the review.
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 4 роки тому
Fantastic - thanks for sharing!
@anthonyperaro9336
@anthonyperaro9336 3 роки тому
great information and many products displayed
@carloscouret5144
@carloscouret5144 3 роки тому
Great comparison.
@meenroy
@meenroy 4 роки тому
thANKS, i was looking for this video.
@MaqsoodAlamShafiq
@MaqsoodAlamShafiq 2 роки тому
Much needed comparison. Thanks you very much.
@KrotowX
@KrotowX Рік тому
Now would like to see proper board cleaning from flux residue tutorial :) Although PRF 6-68 cleaner liquid with cotton swabs do the thing just fine, I'm curious about how to get flux residue out of bottom of ICs. What I noticed - JBC C245931 minispoon tip still do the job on QFP packages very good. BST-223 paste is not so good for small QFP ICs and USB sockets. Once fried few traces on board and one microUSB socket because used BST-223 and pins instantly got swamped under solder. Damaged bothsoccket and traces on PCB while struggled with excess solder cleanup.
@fraserhardmetal7143
@fraserhardmetal7143 Місяць тому
Very expensive for what you get - just make your own - you can buy a kilo of rosin for less than one of these fluxes. Mix rosin ( flakes preferably ) with vaseline ( anything from 1:0.5 - 1:2 ) or however runny you want to make it. Don't forget it is the rosin that does the job here, despite what other proprietary ingredients are in the commercial stuff. Put in a glass jar , mix, and heat gently in the oven until the vaseline and rosin separate - remove from heat , remix and heat again. Remove from heat and allow to cool. When cooled enough to still be liquid, the mixture can be drawn into syringes - at this point you can add some 99% isopropyl alcohol to the mix ( 1 - 2% ) to aid fluidity, but really it is up to personal preference - experiment with the recipe, it's not set in stone, the more rosin that's in it the better. The acid in the rosin should be enough for regular soldering - badly oxidised components would probably require something more acidic - try adding some citric or malic acid - it's up to you. Remember to vent fumes - at least you know what's in your homebrew flux - goodness knows what's in the Chinese knock- off stuff.
@rogierius
@rogierius Місяць тому
I like this! Thank you.
@matthewnicholas7118
@matthewnicholas7118 Рік тому
That was an excellent and really useful video. Thank you.
@WallStreet749
@WallStreet749 2 роки тому
Love this video thanks for making it.
@N.g.Chanal
@N.g.Chanal 7 місяців тому
thank Sir, varry usefull & practical video.not time pass video..but sir please say ,which past result was best? and mechanic uv559 include on try.
@RainBitcoins
@RainBitcoins 4 місяці тому
Thank you for this video, it was of great help.
@TheServeTech
@TheServeTech 3 роки тому
Thanks this is amazing comparison 👍
@HunTomiBp
@HunTomiBp 2 роки тому
I think this is the best I have ever met. ENGINEER ZC-70 Flux For Soldering 50ml - Japan
@joshm264
@joshm264 4 роки тому
I'm really impressed by that big tub of banggood flux, might order some!
@Voidsworn
@Voidsworn 3 роки тому
I bought like 4 or 5 tubs. I am not sure what is in it but it seems to me to be nothing more than some kind of wax? It doesn't smell bad, smells mildly like candle wax and leaves an oily coating. I wonder if it mostly just a heat transfer medium, not really am oxide remover.
@nigelman9506
@nigelman9506 8 місяців тому
In one placed I worked at, I used a Flux pen with long bristles, it was like clear jelly and was fantastic on surface mount ic's with the solder pads underneath, did not evaporate and easy to clean, I don't remember the name of it
@mrmaxgain
@mrmaxgain 2 місяці тому
Good video and very informative.
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 4 роки тому
I use SRA Rosin Paste Flux #135. Kind of thick for SMD, but it's really tacky which I like.
@PapaGleb
@PapaGleb 3 роки тому
Great video. Quick question, is there a way to turn a paste flux softer to put it in a tube/syringe? I just started to with electronics repair and purchased basic tools which got to me this flux as it was the cheapest but its so hard to apply.
@srikanthswt
@srikanthswt Рік тому
Nice video. It's satisfying to see the solder flow. I did not see you mentioning which Solder you used for this. By the way it flowed it felt like Leaded, any chance it is unleaded?
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff 3 роки тому
Great video. Really helpful!
@b.w.oostdam8875
@b.w.oostdam8875 Рік тому
Thank you very much for this very informative video. I have an additional question, is there a UV curing soldering mask ink you would recommend ? I tried one but either the UV_light did not do well (sunlight did not help) or the ink is not ok. Maybe I should have thoroughly shaken the capsule before use ? I tried to repair some minute traces and pads with it, without much success Yhank you very much for all te informative videos
@linkavichtruousky1
@linkavichtruousky1 4 роки тому
I have previously bought inexpensive Chinese flux and after using it even in a well ventilated area would feel a bit sick sort of like flu symptoms. After switching to a name product i dont get this anymore so be careful as i have no idea whats in the cheap stuff and I’m sure there is not much quality control happening. The cheap flux cost me $1 AU compared to $15 AU for a rosin flux that i use now.
@dvmavgoor
@dvmavgoor 4 роки тому
Zinc chloride containing fluxes (such as the weller one) are not suitable for electronic components soldering, they are mostly for plumbing since ZnCl2 is pretty corosive and has to be removed after soldering. Moreover, ZnCl2 is extremely dangerous for a human: it's a skin irritant and its fumes cause lungs diseases.
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
Interesting, I hadn't noticed the composition but it was picked out alongside the other flux pastes from an electronics supplier.
@fochdischitt3561
@fochdischitt3561 2 роки тому
It would be interesting to know how they perform well past expiration.
@jw200
@jw200 4 роки тому
Thanks, very useful. I would like to see same about solder paste for SMD. (the grey one). Which one is good? I have one from Aliexpress but its drying out and its unusable.
@marcotestarmata
@marcotestarmata 4 роки тому
IMHO the genuine Amtech really shine when used with an hot air gun. It really make the difference, it stays there active for a long time but you really need good ventilation or a real fume extractor, it is very smoky. The fake Amtech's residue are much harder to remove and they spread wider on the board. It is cheap but i won't buy it again. For general soldering i like to use the liquid TOPNIK RF800 in a squeeze bottle with a fine gauge needle. I work mostly with beefy through hole components. RF800's residue are really easy to remove with IPA and the flux works very well and it is not very smoky. Liquid flux are good just with a soldering iron. With hot air you need a gel flux, and the Amtech is the the best flux i've ever used. Just my two cents.
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
I'm going to do a test with hot air shortly - firstly with the PCB used in this video, but it sounds like it would be worth getting another test board with some large ICs and a ground plane on it. Thanks
@Slavolko
@Slavolko 4 роки тому
Louis Rossmann swears by genuine Amtech flux for all the work he does. In fact, he buys and re-sells them because he trusts them that much and wants others to be able to reliably source the genuine parts.
@pr0xZen
@pr0xZen 4 роки тому
@@Slavolko It's fair to promote it as it's genuinely great for its appropriate usecases. But its also really expensive, at least for those who do not generate any revenue on soldering work. And for many of those without a national/regional distributor, as international shipping and potential import taxes can make the total price really brutal. I need to point out that the sentiment pushed by Louis about the _process of buying_ Amtech flux is a horrible ordeal involving faxing orders etc, is either false or long outdated. You can just order it online from Amtechdirect.com . They're one of the few official distributors for Iventec (Amtech is a product lineup, Iventec is the company), and as such they keep shipment-ready stock of pretty much the whole Amtech lineup. So if you need _anything else_ from the Amtech lineup, these guys are great to have around, as you don't need to worry about getting fake products. That said - unless you want 10cc quanitites, or large tubs, buying no clean 559V2 tacky flux from Rossmanngroup is not a bad idea at all if the shipping etc works for you. Because the 30cc units Rossmann Group sell, are $16. From Amtechdirect they're $27.
@MPETE1976
@MPETE1976 3 роки тому
Good to see RF800 being recommended as I have a 100ml and 2x50ml bottles + some other stuff coming my way from Poland this week.
@MPETE1976
@MPETE1976 3 роки тому
@@pr0xZen $34.99
@W1RMD
@W1RMD 3 роки тому
Great video! I didn't know that zinc chloride could be used in electronics. I was surprised to see that one of the fluxes had that in it. I've got some Kester 959T. I can't find it mentioned on youtube or anywhere else, but it does say that it is for wave soldering 0.5% rosin no clean. I assume it can be used to hand solder as well. What are your thoughts? Thanks and great youtube channel by the way.
@allthegearnoidea6752
@allthegearnoidea6752 2 роки тому
I’m thinking of learning about SMD and have bought some equipment. It was nice to get your recommendations thanks
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 2 роки тому
Have fun! I think there are some newer fluxes since I did this video but I don't think much can have changed.
@YardmanRich
@YardmanRich 3 роки тому
Love the video bro really helpful💯
@abeleski
@abeleski 4 роки тому
Thank you. Very interesting video. I would like you to expand your video to test a couple of other characteristics. Effectiveness on oxidised components and also even more important for me how fast the flux burns off. Especially important for hot air when a lot of times we have the heat on for a while. I believe the genuine amtech is what is supposed to set it apart from the others in this regard as it stays aroind for longer. Would be great to see some sort of a test for it. Thanks again.
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 роки тому
I'll work out a video with the same PCB, maybe removing and re-applying the IC with hot air. Thanks :)
@abeleski
@abeleski 4 роки тому
@@sdgelectronics your current pcb is probably not a good example. You need those quad pack chips that have a big ground plane on bottom. Your current chip and pcb would be easy to remove with hot air. You need to simulate a large ground plane fighting off yoir heat gun if i am making sense
@dankan4459
@dankan4459 3 роки тому
@@sdgelectronics did you ever make the hot air station video? Great vids btw
@hadiffnazhan862
@hadiffnazhan862 2 роки тому
that cheap "NT" branded soldering paste was surprisingly good, around 2 dollars for 50g here in malaysia
@mckayver1306
@mckayver1306 4 роки тому
thanks for the video.
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