SECRET To Reviving Dead Portable Tool Batteries | Super Easy!

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In this video I will show you a really fast and easy way to fix and revive most dead portable tool batteries!
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@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
Have you ever run into this issue? Did you end up just replacing the batteries?
@jc2200
@jc2200 3 місяці тому
I wonder if this could be done with RC batteries?
@vog51
@vog51 3 місяці тому
As long as you're using an identical battery pack to try this and they are rechargeable, you should be fine. @@jc2200
@charliem.7492
@charliem.7492 3 місяці тому
I still have my dead batteries, so I'm going to try this. You're awesome. Thank you so much. I'm going to try this now.
@andys5562
@andys5562 3 місяці тому
I didn't replace them because I had already seen the 700 OTHER videos that explain this procedure on you tube.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
@andys5562 cool. But that’s definitely an exaggeration 😂
@vicatlagic9872
@vicatlagic9872 Місяць тому
I have just tried this with my Milwaukee 18v battery that has been dead for 4 years. It absolutely works beats paying $100’s of dollars in batteries. Thanks brother love your work….
@cornelisgoedegebuur
@cornelisgoedegebuur 6 днів тому
I am gonna try this as well with my Milwaukee M18 battery
@kevinewing-oo8ix
@kevinewing-oo8ix Місяць тому
The wife here. My hubby ran away from home. Left me with some old Ryobi tools and DEAD BATTERIES. I'm so blessed to find this process. I have friends with working Ryobi batteries. Now I can fix mine. Thank you!
@21stcenturycaveman33
@21stcenturycaveman33 21 день тому
Who needs a man around the house anyway with plenty of batteries on charge 😂
@O-Grady
@O-Grady 2 місяці тому
I have several 40V Greenworks outdoor power tools; mower, trimmer, leaf blower. About 3-4 years ago one of the expensive (more then $100 at the time. They've come down in price since then) 5 amp batteries stopped working. Wouldn't charge, wouldn't run. So, having nothing to lose, I took it apart. On top of the batteries is a circuit board. On the circuit board was a flat automotive fuse, soldered into 2 slots on the board. The fuse was blown. I unsoldered the fuse and pulled it out. Got a new one of matching amperage from my tool box, trimmed about 1/8" off of the blades so it would sit low on the board like the original, and soldered it in place exactly like the original. Worked perfectly. I'm still using that battery.
@billp.365
@billp.365 Місяць тому
They do this with televisions, they do this with washer and dryers and microwaves. I know because I have replaced a fuse on all these in every single one was a Samsung. What a scam.
@rupertcornelius8924
@rupertcornelius8924 Місяць тому
​@@billp.365 it's not a scam, it's a fuse. It protects the electronics. If there was no fuse it would have blown an expensive or difficult to replace component in the electronics when it could have been easily protected with an inexpensive and relatively easy to replace fuse. Almost every electric and electronic device has internal fuse protection with troubleshooting and replacement details in the owners manual.
@redfo3009
@redfo3009 21 день тому
Is that what they call ‘planned obsolescence’?
@O-Grady
@O-Grady 20 днів тому
@@rupertcornelius8924 You are partly right. The fuse certainly does protect the electronics. But in this case there is no mention of it in the owners manual or any literature, and it is in no way intended to be replaced if it blows. What they want to happen is for the owner to declare the battery dead, trash/recycle it, and spend >$100 on a new battery. THAT is the scam. The fuse should be in a fuse socket in a user-accessible location so when it blows it can be replaced.
@O-Grady
@O-Grady 20 днів тому
@@redfo3009 Not so much planned obsolescence as planned premature failure.
@brianfritz575
@brianfritz575 3 місяці тому
What is occurring here is that the battery packs contain a fuel gauging and safety IC. The charger must communicate to this IC, before the battery can charge. If the battery gets to a low enough voltage, the IC will be unpowered, and unable to communicate. There is a way in most of these IC solutions to provide a slow charge path for a deeply discharged battery. The issue is that some manufacturers, because of their cell chemistry, don't want a battery which has dropped below about 1V per cell, to ever be used, as it can cause plating of the current collector materials into the carbon matrix, which can then become energized when the cell gets charged, resulting in shorts and localized heating, which can then lead to what is referred to in the battery industry as "rapid disassembly", more often called an explosion by consumers! If the battery reaches low voltage because it was stored uncharged, and left in that state for a long period, it would typically take multiple months, it may reach a low voltage. Such cells are usually safe to recharge, but to be sure you really need to get the info from the cell makers datasheet. The other reason the cells can reach such a low voltage, is because they are wearing out, and their impedance is increasing and capacity is starting to rapidly decline. This can cause a cell to go to zero volts during storage due to increased leakage currents within the cells. Such cells are typically unsafe to recharge! If you are going to do this, be very careful. Recovery of such packs is at a greater risk of catastrophic failure for the cells. Watch such packs carefully during charge, and even for half a day after the recharge. I have seen cells fail after such recovery charging as long as 8.5 hours after charging was complete. A single fire can cost you much more than the price of a replacement pack. I wanted to make sure people are warned of the potential consequences. Please be extremely careful. I highly suggest replacing such packs unless you know they were stored uncharged and left for a multiple months. Li based cells are fickle, they contain tremendous energy. When things go bad, they go bad quickly and violently. Please take this warning seriously. I would hate someone to lose someone they love to such a senseless accident!
@sanjaysesodia1212
@sanjaysesodia1212 3 місяці тому
Excellent analysis
@conwaynoel3715
@conwaynoel3715 3 місяці тому
Absolutely true Brian. Lithium ion cells are far too unpredictable for messing about with. If they lose their charging ability replace them.
@jennydarylblyth2606
@jennydarylblyth2606 3 місяці тому
Thanks for your technical advice Brian. Very good information
@paul-Cellit-boston
@paul-Cellit-boston 3 місяці тому
u are right on point.
@hugegamer5988
@hugegamer5988 3 місяці тому
“ but to be sure you really need to get the info from the cell makers datasheet. ” Lmafo, don’t even bother. If you can even find the original manufacturer and get a data sheet they NEVER have this information. They usually don’t even have actual capacity at various discharge rates or even temperatures sometimes they don’t even have the capacity which is insane. The data sheet says almost nothing beyond “what you want? It’s a BATTERY”.
@jaylsb
@jaylsb 3 місяці тому
Just came across this video and had a DeWalt 20v battery I was about to take to recycle it. Figured I’d give this a shot, and you just saved me a battery! Working again like a charm!
@ccmundt
@ccmundt 3 місяці тому
I did that scissors trick when I was 4 with a 120v outlet. Much more memorable. Now that I am an 61 with a EE degree I would recommend a fuse and alligator clips.
@mwechtal
@mwechtal 3 місяці тому
I second the fuse and alligator clips. You REALLY don't want to see a Li battery fire inside your house or garage.
@davidh.8513
@davidh.8513 3 місяці тому
What size fuse would you suggest?
@BxCornw
@BxCornw 3 місяці тому
30 amp most likely. As thats around the max output of a samsung high output cell
@kenb1376
@kenb1376 3 місяці тому
Ha ha! I did that same trick with a pair of wired toy “Rabbit ears”. I was 5 years old and was curious as to what would happen if I stuck those ears into a 120v outlet. Poof!!! One scared kid and a blown fuse. 😅
@sharoncerretani
@sharoncerretani 3 місяці тому
I wish you had done this video. ❤️
@TheSouthIsHot
@TheSouthIsHot 3 дні тому
THAT'S AWESOME!!! It's just like boosting a car battery with another car battery. Thank you one million times!!!
@user-vx2zv9zb7u
@user-vx2zv9zb7u 3 місяці тому
For the 18volt dead battery, instead of wires or scissors to charge off of another 18 volt battery. Just use a typical 9 volt battery and place upside down on the prongs for about a min. Should send a charge to get it recognized by the charger. Super easy!
@ronharrington8659
@ronharrington8659 3 місяці тому
👍
@jmar8507
@jmar8507 3 місяці тому
Do you have to match the + and - on the 9v to certain sides of the battery your sending the charge to?
@coool8ball
@coool8ball 3 місяці тому
That is an intelligent question since it is definitely a DC battery@@jmar8507
@ronnieroxx13
@ronnieroxx13 3 місяці тому
Do a video, I'd like to see you do that... before I try it.
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 місяці тому
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@user-nz6nu5zt5i
@user-nz6nu5zt5i Місяць тому
My procrastination finally paid off! Have several of these batteries in garage intending to go to recycling. Yay!! Thank you!!!
@davidbwa
@davidbwa 3 місяці тому
3-5 minutes might be generous. It can be a lot faster. I learned this last summer from a different video and listed much shorter times. So I tried what they said. 20v dewalt - I connected the wires for about 30 seconds and that was all I needed to have just enough juice to get the charger going. I'm glad people are sharing this information. Seems a shame for batteries to be getting tossed / recycled unnecessarily.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
Yeah, completely depends on the battery. Sometimes shorter can work as well. Appreciate the input!
@foff-666
@foff-666 3 місяці тому
yes a few seconds is more than enough - it is nothing to do with the explanation he gave, it is about individual cell polarity reversal which occurs when a lithium 'bank' (group of cells) approaches 0v of charge : as if the cells are not perfectly balanced (they can't ever be) then one cell will reach zero first because the others, and that cell ends up with a NEGATIVE voltage (or reversed polarity) -- the inbuild BMS detects this condition and tells any devices which respect it to shut off power from it. the hot 'jump' technique to the battery+/- terminals forces those flipped cells back into positive voltage levels by overpowering them. BRIEFLY! a few seconds is all it takes. any more can be dangerous.
@jlrinc1420
@jlrinc1420 2 місяці тому
These cells don't actually reach zero. The charger will cut them off between 3 and 2.5 volts. They will not let you discharge them completely because it would likely catch on fire. What happens is the battery is charged up to 4 Volts. It is used till it hits its cutoff voltage around 3 volts then instead of charging it you put it into your bag for three or four days and the battery self discharges to less than 2.5 at which point you need to do what he says here to charge them. The reason I t takes so little time is that you are only bringing the battery from around 2.4 to 2.6 volts enough where it is recognized. If your battery hit zero you would never be able to charge it again. If a lithium battery ever reached a negative voltage it would quickly achieve thermal runaway. The battery packs don't look for negative voltage to stop charging. They test each set of batteries for the low voltage cutoff. You are right about the imbalance though it happens at much higher tha zero volts. I'm not sure how lithium batteries deal with imbalanced cells but in lead acid deep discharge batteries you overcharge them up to about 14 or 15 volts for a short time. This brings all the individual cells up to the same voltage.
@jimslater9776
@jimslater9776 Місяць тому
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@stevet5379
@stevet5379 Місяць тому
These types of batteries don't get recycled. Green ain't all that friendly!
@cantstartafire
@cantstartafire 17 днів тому
Totally works. Did it with Dewalt 40V yard tool batteries. Took about an hour to reach "threshold voltage" that the charger would recognize. Thanks man!
@poindexter1387
@poindexter1387 3 місяці тому
Wow .. 😊. I have a newer DeWalt driver . One of the batteries went to no charge mode in no time. Came across your video. This works like a champ . I can't thank you enough. Now I will dig out some 18 volts and try those....thanks again👍
@MrMockingbird1313
@MrMockingbird1313 3 місяці тому
An excellent video. This illistrates the principle that a good battery sacrifices toward a dead battery. They will share the electricty equally. In the old days truck mechanics used this to start an exhausted battery.
@artillerybuff2000
@artillerybuff2000 3 місяці тому
Oh wow, wished I had known this a few years ago, would have saved me lots of money in new batteries. Thank you!!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
You're welcome! Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@stevet5379
@stevet5379 Місяць тому
I've never had to buy a battery, I use a plug! These types of batteries cannot be recycled so it's just adding to a pollution problem that IS KILLING our planet!
@m9078jk3
@m9078jk3 3 місяці тому
Thanks for this great tip. I used your method on my 20 volt rechargeable battery and brought it back to being able to charge it fully again.
@ramen4ninjas411
@ramen4ninjas411 3 місяці тому
Thanks! You just saved me money. I was just about to get a replacement for a battery I thought was dead. Thanks again.
@LeeFenimore1149
@LeeFenimore1149 2 місяці тому
Thanks for helping me to save money once again! You ROCK Brother!!!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 2 місяці тому
You’re very welcome! Really glad you found it helpful. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@naubaucat
@naubaucat 3 місяці тому
I wish i had seen this before I bought a new drill battery. Thanks so much for the tip, and you always have good info.
@EnmandsBand1
@EnmandsBand1 15 днів тому
Super advice thank you, I have done this a few times, recently on those solar lights that gets too low during winter and can't charge in the spring
@cbgslinger
@cbgslinger 14 днів тому
Wow! I tried it on a Ryobi 40W battery with speaker wire and the technique worked. Thanks.
@bigonprivacy2708
@bigonprivacy2708 3 місяці тому
Love your channel! Concise, short, but extremely informative. Great job!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
Glad you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@geoffap0
@geoffap0 3 місяці тому
I haven’t had this issue yet. But I’m glad you showed how to jump start as a first test of a battery’s health!
@stevemay9707
@stevemay9707 3 місяці тому
D😮ttd
@newellhales9082
@newellhales9082 3 місяці тому
Thank you for sharing tips to revive batteries. I found it very helpful!
@drbettyschueler3235
@drbettyschueler3235 2 місяці тому
Wow, I'm glad I watched this. I have a bunch of new batteries that have been sitting around for years going dead. I am so glad I can revive them now that I'm able to use power tools again.
@manofreedom
@manofreedom 3 місяці тому
This is one of the most useful videos I have ever seen. Thanks for posting.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
You're welcome! Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@margiedowling5360
@margiedowling5360 Місяць тому
Ones it work on lithium batteries?
@ARoyalLyon
@ARoyalLyon 3 місяці тому
Nice tips, my addition would be to flatten your solid copper wire ends rather than forcing them in. Mechanically spread and damaged connector terminals inside the pack will also render it unusable in a much less fixable manner. It can overheat and melt the plastic around it in your battery pack and leave a burned pitted spot in your tool's contacts as well.
@mikemcdonald5147
@mikemcdonald5147 3 місяці тому
when you insert the battery into the charger it spreads the terminals apart to make a good connection. It's designed to handle this over and over again. Its a non issue.
@ByrchBytes57
@ByrchBytes57 2 місяці тому
Outstanding video!!! I need to and will try this myself soon, LORD willing. Thank you!
@ricopo3522
@ricopo3522 Місяць тому
The scissors trick is jankiest of solutions in the best way. Love it!
@Lecuona8
@Lecuona8 3 місяці тому
What a good and simple way of explaining how to revive these batteries! I am a retired electrical engineer and never gave this a thought. Keep up the good work!
@Blueknight1960
@Blueknight1960 3 місяці тому
The batteries are not being revived. li-ion, lipo and similar chemistry batteries once they are discharged below their lowest discharge voltage rating (normally around 2.2-2.5v per cell) they become useless. Yes you might get them to take a charge but, it'll never be 100% and the capacity is severely reduced.
@CHEECHMUN
@CHEECHMUN 3 місяці тому
I think those are rated as 80% capacity. You never get back to 100%. Anyway, use the battery until it can no longer takes a charge. Squeeze every volt out. @@Blueknight1960
@ursamajor7468
@ursamajor7468 3 місяці тому
@@Blueknight1960 A reduced capacity is far better than a zero functioning brick.
@foff-666
@foff-666 3 місяці тому
yes a few seconds is more than enough - it is nothing to do with the explanation he gave, it is about individual cell polarity reversal which occurs when a lithium 'bank' (group of cells) approaches 0v of charge : as if the cells are not perfectly balanced (they can't ever be) then one cell will reach zero first before the others, and that cell ends up with a NEGATIVE voltage (or reversed polarity) -- the inbuilt BMS detects this condition and tells any devices which respect it to shut off power from it. the hot 'jump' technique to the battery+/- terminals forces those flipped cells back into positive voltage levels by overpowering them. BRIEFLY! a few seconds is all it takes. any more can be dangerous.
@dennymcguire9030
@dennymcguire9030 2 місяці тому
Is there a way to do this without another good battery, Say a power supply or a stack of 9 volt batteries?
@BManHunts
@BManHunts Місяць тому
Thank goodness I searched for "scissoring videos." This was helpful.
@rtaylor1105
@rtaylor1105 Місяць тому
😂
@whocares4274
@whocares4274 Місяць тому
Nice 😂
@inezfield6488
@inezfield6488 Місяць тому
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@SwiftyMcVeigh851
@SwiftyMcVeigh851 Місяць тому
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@jimdavis1566
@jimdavis1566 Місяць тому
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@robertclark5060
@robertclark5060 19 днів тому
WOW!! What a simple yet brilliant video. Thank you!
@martinmadi0123
@martinmadi0123 2 місяці тому
Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge
@dougharlow6037
@dougharlow6037 3 місяці тому
I did jumped the dewalt 18v xrp batterys according to your instructions for my dewalt 18v xrp batterys. And so far it worked. No errors on the charger. Time will tell. The 20v adapter puts every tool out of balance and too tall. And my problem is I purchased about 10 major 18v tools and really don't want to add an adapter. All my Dewalt 18v tools are still in their hard cases, most only used once. Thanks for the video.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
Awesome! Glad to hear it was able to help. Thanks a lot for the feedback Doug!
@ByrchBytes57
@ByrchBytes57 2 місяці тому
EE? Eat Everything?!
@shawnp6653
@shawnp6653 3 місяці тому
Nice. We seem to replace a lot of B&D batteries for our weedeater(s) - I'm trying this next time!
@ipatchee007
@ipatchee007 29 днів тому
Thank you for taking the time to do the step by step resurrecting of the battery
@kuuleitangonan2664
@kuuleitangonan2664 26 днів тому
Just did mines and it's charging now great 👍 information thank you 👍😎
@myrudram
@myrudram 3 місяці тому
This is a brilliant idea. Thank you so much. Also, you've provided a very clear explanation of the situation and how to correct it. A breath of fresh air.
@lj5773
@lj5773 3 місяці тому
Wife likes all kinds of ambiance low power stuff around the house. I made her switch to rechargeable batteries due to how many she was going through. The problem with these devices is that they will suck a battery to 0. So i built a board to be able to jump-start them and get them to change easily. Works really well. I've also done this on car batteries, Zegway batteries, and many others threw the years. Never had an issue.
@jeffmedich865
@jeffmedich865 Місяць тому
I have a brand new hammer drill with a bad battery that I purchased. I'm glad I kept it. Just saw your video and tried it out. It's currently charging. Thank you for sharing the trick.
@dewansingh8135
@dewansingh8135 11 днів тому
WOW, It worked on my 18v Black & Decker dead battery. Fully charged and holds charge well. Thank you for the tip. Super.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 10 днів тому
You are very welcome! Really glad to hear it was helpful to you. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@robh693h4
@robh693h4 3 місяці тому
I’ve done this with Ego56v batteries and it does work. I had a battery that wouldn’t take a charge and registered a fault, ran the wires like he showed and it gave the “bad” battery just enough charge for the charger to recognize it as a good battery in need of charging.
@2kostasd
@2kostasd 3 місяці тому
I've had this issue before. In the past, I've just left the battery in the charger, and sometimes, after a few hours, the battery starts taking a charge. Perhaps the charger recognized a slight charge during the process. Will use your tips, though - much easier!
@MarkSmith-js2pu
@MarkSmith-js2pu 3 місяці тому
That’s what I did on 2 lightly used older Milwaukee 20’s.
@gballs007
@gballs007 Місяць тому
Yes cause even though charger doesn't recognize battery when dead to give charge, when u connect the dead battery the charger, the charger still gives a very small amount discharge naturally and after hours of that miniscule amount of electricity going to the battery, it gets it to the point where it builds up enough stored electricity to have the charger recognize it
@56nomadman
@56nomadman 2 місяці тому
Good video. Done this before and several times and it worked well. I've also jump these type batteries with car battery charger... but on low and just a quick hit!
@robertguzman3113
@robertguzman3113 2 місяці тому
Thank you for this new idea. Great reference 👌 to spark new style of thinking saving time & energy.
@iamtdechiara
@iamtdechiara Місяць тому
Tries it on a newer dead battery - worked like a champ !!!! thank you for the video
@datamatters8
@datamatters8 3 місяці тому
FYI - if batteries sit on the shelf unused they undergo a process called self-discharge. See wikipedia topic "battery self-discharge" for details. I have several Ryobi tools each with a battery and I rotate thru them so a battery doesn't sit unused for months on end. A lead-acid car battery can also self-discharge over time if left unused but also after years of use the chemistry degrades so they no longer hold much of a charge and need replacing. A table in the article notes lead-acid batteries self-discharge around 4-6% a month and eventually won't have enough charge to crank the engine. Lithium-Ion self-discharges 2-4% month and eventually won't have enough charge for the charger to recognize the battery as good. So the trick in this video seems like a good way to give a still-good battery a kick so the charger will charge it. But you will know if the battery is really degraded when it only runs the tool for a few minutes after "full" charging.
@erosion01
@erosion01 3 місяці тому
Not necessarily true, lithium holds onto its charge for a very long time. The only reason they self discharge here is because the BMS system is usually parasitic and requires a tiny bit of power to keep itself alive. The difference is that the lead acid discharge is because of its chemistry, and the lithium is because of its BMS. Does it really matter? No, but it is not a flat rate, a lithium battery with the same BMS but twice as large as another will bleed through the BMS twice as slow.
@salvadorcastillo1539
@salvadorcastillo1539 3 місяці тому
I fix my black and decker batteries with your video thank you!!!!
@mikegage4933
@mikegage4933 2 дні тому
Excellent tip! Thank you very much.
@nt0020
@nt0020 3 місяці тому
Very helpful... any suggestion for a blinking charger and the battery isn't charging?
@pharmon211
@pharmon211 3 місяці тому
I don’t have a solution but i DO have the same problem with one of my Ryobi batteries. It flashes the “maintenance charge” sequence (slow, gradual flashing).
@jeannemyers489
@jeannemyers489 3 місяці тому
Ingenious! Love this! Thank you so much for the wonderful tip! Gonna save people some serious bucks!❤
@Blueknight1960
@Blueknight1960 3 місяці тому
Not really because once you drain one of those batteries down too low, they become worthless. Yes you might get them to take a charge but, the capacity of the cells will be too low to be of any use.
@tim9430
@tim9430 3 місяці тому
@@Blueknight1960 As I stated to another such comment, I jump-started a battery about 2 years ago and have used it many times since...never having to jump-start it again. It had been unused when it previously went completely dead (from lack of use), so admittedly that may be a factor. But it may not be a factor as well. I only know that it's operated as well as any new battery I ever owned for two years now, and I use my tools heavily...auto repair and home maintenance.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
@tim9430 don’t try and give them actual facts Tim, many of them don’t like facts 😂. Appreciate the input.
@nobodyspecial6436
@nobodyspecial6436 3 місяці тому
If the batteries are any good they should hold a charge on the shelf as it were…. I have probably 20 DeWalt batteries in my collection and the only ones that go dead on their own are the ones that i know are weak… I have a 9 ah 60v that’s in my chainsaw and 2 years on the shelf and it still shows 3 bars
@famchan5270
@famchan5270 16 днів тому
Thanks for this tutorial, I tried it on my M18 red lithium, it sparked a little but all it took was less than a min and now its charging, this is awsome!!
@briansgolfworks4991
@briansgolfworks4991 3 місяці тому
I just tried your solution. It worked! Charging the DOA battery right now.
@sparktoolife
@sparktoolife 3 місяці тому
Great video. Great comment section. To avoid any kind of battery fire due to over charging or failure. Get your self a metal garden shed run a 120v GFCI circuit to it and make a charging and battery storage set-up insde it for your rechargeable battries. Locate it as far as possible from occupied structures garages and any flamable materials. Dont ask how I know... a thief leaves the coat hangars, fire leaves nothing... I'm a retired Electrical Contractor. ✌️🙏😇 Stay Safe. ❤
@joewenzel5142
@joewenzel5142 3 місяці тому
Very nice. Never would have thought of using scissors.
@maryreyes9926
@maryreyes9926 3 місяці тому
What if red light continues to flash and no change to green after 20 minutes? Is it unrechargeble battery?
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
@maryreyes9926 yes. That is letting you know something is actually wrong with the battery and needs to be replaced.
@gregkalotas2anewearth-ener894
@gregkalotas2anewearth-ener894 3 місяці тому
Hey. I tried this on a dewalt flex volt and it worked. You’ve saved me $200🤙 Thanks so much. Great video 🙏🏻
@jnmharris
@jnmharris 2 місяці тому
This was AWESOME!! Thanks SO MUCH for sharing this knowledge with us! This "hack" rebooted my completely dead DeWalt 20v battery.
@OldePhart
@OldePhart 3 місяці тому
Never had this condition before, but I have had the charger say the pack is bad a lot. But I gotta add that a current limited power supply would be a better choice for this. The dead battery could overheat and die from the potential short circuit current draw if the dead battery cell is defective.
@GrayRaceCat
@GrayRaceCat 3 місяці тому
Did you mean the Good battery could die?
@foff-666
@foff-666 3 місяці тому
a few seconds is all it takes, it is indeed dangerous to do this for the stated 3-5 minutes. it is nothing to do with the explanation he gave, it is about individual cell polarity reversal which occurs when a lithium 'bank' (group of cells) approaches 0v of charge : as if the cells are not perfectly balanced (they can't ever be) then one cell will reach zero first before the others, and that cell ends up with a NEGATIVE voltage (or reversed polarity) -- the inbuilt BMS detects this condition and tells any devices which respect it to shut off power from it. the hot 'jump' technique to the battery+/- terminals forces those flipped cells back into positive voltage levels by overpowering them. BRIEFLY! a few seconds is all it takes. any more can be dangerous.
@MrTimmmers
@MrTimmmers 3 місяці тому
Scissors is a neat idea. Variation on this works of phone batteries too, but very low voltage using a phone charger. The BMS battery management system on Lion batteries can't read a fully empty battery is why they won't charge and why this works. Better trick is to not leave them in place to lose charge, give them a check once in a while and a top up.
@user-ef2qb5em2j
@user-ef2qb5em2j 2 місяці тому
Thank you for sharing this it was the source of my temporary out of service battery back into action.... Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Cheers....
@dldave1978
@dldave1978 3 місяці тому
Thanks for sharing. One of my 20v batteries crapped out a few months ago. Going to try to jump it tomorrow!
@bernardhernandez2396
@bernardhernandez2396 3 місяці тому
You can also use a spade connector for the 18v one
@manyfeather2knives423
@manyfeather2knives423 3 місяці тому
What is a spade connector?
@peterbrown8513
@peterbrown8513 14 днів тому
I agree, much safer. A short piece of wire with 2 female connector at the ends.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 3 місяці тому
I've done this before but, although the batteries will then "charge", at least in my case, they were able to hold very little power.
@davidbwa
@davidbwa 3 місяці тому
Maybe the battery was aging out? I did this several months ago to a 20v dewalt and it seems to be working just fine. I just do not jobs (not contractor) so it would be hard for me to tell if it had a few percent less charge but if so it is not obvious. I have used it for a number of misc jobs since I charged it and have not yet had to recharge it.
@makfi78
@makfi78 3 місяці тому
I would expect different results depending on the age and wear ofnthe revived battery
@patomahony9747
@patomahony9747 3 місяці тому
Each pack has 5 cells to make up its voltage 18v/20v. The BMS cuts off charge when one of the 5 reaches 4.15v. So open battery and either discharge all to same voltage or use likes of a tp4056 and individually charge each of 5 cells to 4.15 v Also note the discharge curve of lithium ion batteries shows that from fully charged they drop from 4.15v to around 4v in first 4% of discharge. Then slowly drop down to around 3.2 v and if kept in use again the curve drops like falling off a cliff
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 3 місяці тому
@@patomahony9747 Thanks!
@mikestubestation
@mikestubestation 3 місяці тому
Storing flat batteries will ruin them.
@maurogarreffa6719
@maurogarreffa6719 6 годин тому
Genius Mate, Thanks heaps 🤜🏻🤛🏻🕶🦘🇮🇹👍🏻
@floridashawn7317
@floridashawn7317 18 днів тому
Perfect timing. I just had a 20v dewalt stop charging for some reason. Can’t wait to try this
@criznach
@criznach 3 місяці тому
While this does work, there is nothing to regulate the current when you connect the positive wire. There's always a chance with Lithium that you'll have a fire if you charge or discharge too rapidly. I recommend using a current limited bench power supply, or be ready to chuck the whole thing outside because it's on fire.
@tsmartin
@tsmartin 3 місяці тому
Probably a good idea to not just walk away from it while doing this. I don't even leave a battery on a charger any longer than it takes to charge it. I keep checking on it and when charged it comes out of the charger and unplug the charger.
@jameslarson7452
@jameslarson7452 3 місяці тому
@@tsmartinI know you can leave Bosch, DeWalt, and Milwaukee in the charger since they implement a charge protection timer. Ryobi still doesn’t last I checked. RTFM
@Chris_In_Texas
@Chris_In_Texas 3 місяці тому
Just be very careful if with Li-Ion batteries if they have drained all the way down to zero volts, they can reverse polarity and if they do you will have a nice fire as you try and charge it.
@jerrygiarratana9462
@jerrygiarratana9462 Місяць тому
ho a does polarity reverse?
@Chris_In_Texas
@Chris_In_Texas Місяць тому
​@@jerrygiarratana9462 Cell reversal in lithium ion (Li-ion) batteries is the condition of the anode electrochemical potential rising above that of the cathode, resulting in a negative voltage measured at the cell level. There are two primary reactions that occur at the anode at high potentials which increase cell impedance: oxidation of copper current collector, and oxidization of the carbonate electrolytes to CO2. At the cathode, the reducing potential can lead to the electrodeposition of copper to form dendrites, which pose a shorting risk if they bridge the anode and cathode. Cell reversal can be caused by poorly matched cells, a failure of the battery management electronics, or a defective cell in a pack. Under these conditions, one or several of the cells can go into reversal causing performance decreases or even a dangerous thermal runaway event. This is why BMS systems won't allow over discharge of the batteries, however if sitting around for long periods, the BMS system can't work if the cell(s) discharge beyond what it can prevent.
@shailendrapradhan5420
@shailendrapradhan5420 15 днів тому
Very useful and Excellent demonstration to revive dead batteries! I learned something today. Thank you.
@computerterry618
@computerterry618 16 днів тому
This worked perfectly! Thank you SOOOO Much!
@Magicinstalls
@Magicinstalls 3 місяці тому
I've done this before. one way for the manufacturers to prevent this issue is to have a jumpstart button on their chargers. I suppose that would be counter profitable because they can't sell more batteries that way…
@ethanweller2454
@ethanweller2454 3 місяці тому
For once it's actually got nothing to do with making more money. These batteries can be dangerous when handled by fools. Including the numb nuts that made this video.
@67caveman
@67caveman 2 місяці тому
There's a lot of good knowledge on UKposts, with real peoples that can help all of us save money.😊
@jotsntittles5783
@jotsntittles5783 2 місяці тому
We've (Hubs & I) started a shared Windows Notebook - Set up categories & sub-categories then include the info, links/pics or attach files if necessary
@proslaws
@proslaws День тому
Bloody brilliant!
@kurtkiewel5389
@kurtkiewel5389 3 місяці тому
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍AWESOME!!! I'm so glad I watched your video. I have tossed "dead" batteries and almost tossed a $250 9.0AH Flexvolt 60V battery. I used this method to resurrect it and I couldn't be a happier camper ( I needed to flatten the wires i used with a hammer to make them fit). I connected them for 10 minutes just to be sure. Based on this I recommend not to connect for more than 3 min. They almost equilibrated and got pretty hot. That much charge that fast probably wasn't too good for the "dead" battery but it was certainly better than tossing it in the recycle bin. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
@dukestinnett8382
@dukestinnett8382 3 місяці тому
Been doing this for years, however the dead battery doesn’t ever fully recharge or last as long as it should.
@tim9430
@tim9430 3 місяці тому
I did this only once but the battery that I charged is still working fine about 2 years later. I use it often too. When it was dead it had never been used before. It was purchased, then sat unused for several years causing it to lose all of its' charge. Possibly that is a factor in why it has worked so well since I charged it??? I don't know.
@StopWars420
@StopWars420 3 місяці тому
Just replace the cells inside.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 3 місяці тому
​@@StopWars420unless you have nothing to do, the time to change cells out isn't worth the cost savings.
@StopWars420
@StopWars420 3 місяці тому
@veganpotterthevegan it's much cheaper and you can always fix them even when Dewalt discontinue them. But then again I expect a vegan to be overwhelmed by a simple task.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 3 місяці тому
@itsallinyourheadbiotch never said it's hard clown. But time is money. I have a lot more money than time for something so inexpensive
@Gilikemail
@Gilikemail 3 місяці тому
Thank you! I have wasted so much time cleaning contacts and bending them back and forth thinking it was a bad connection. Then wasted lots of money on new batteries. This video is going to save me a ton of time and money.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
You are very welcome! Glad you liked it. I’ve been there and done that too. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@RichardWells-dj9eg
@RichardWells-dj9eg Місяць тому
N no
@betterbprepared
@betterbprepared 17 днів тому
Fantastic info! I have several dead batteries that I am going to try this out on.
@tomcoe9975
@tomcoe9975 3 місяці тому
Great lesson! Thanks very much for sharing!
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 3 місяці тому
The 20v and 18v are actually the same voltage. They each have 5 cells in series. Normally the cells are specified by their nominal voltage of 3.7v so 5x is 18.5v. However at full charge the cells are at 4.2v, so 5x is 21v. But there isn't much capacity between 4.1 and 4.2v, and it is better for the usable lifetime of the battery to not charge it up all the way, so 20v is a nice round number pretty close to the typical upper limit.
@billclarke1131
@billclarke1131 3 місяці тому
@Sylvan_dB Thanks. I appreciate knowing the details of "why".
@phillipantunes
@phillipantunes 3 місяці тому
correct, that's why Dewalt has the 20V MAX * and if you go to the fine print it says " *Maximum initial battery voltage (measured without a workload) is 20 volts. Nominal voltage is 18. "
@jbbolts
@jbbolts 3 місяці тому
this is true if they are both lithium ion batteries but the 18 volt batteries shown in this video are nickel cadmium and are a very different technology
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 3 місяці тому
@@jbbolts no they are not. Ryobi changed from nicad many years ago and no mainstream tool brand has been nimh.
@jbbolts
@jbbolts 3 місяці тому
@@Sylvan_dB except the ones in this video are dinosaur dewalts
@tim9430
@tim9430 3 місяці тому
In case you don't have a second battery to jump start the dead battery, I did the same thing using my car battery and a set of jumper cables. I had to clip a piece of wire onto one end of each jumper cable so I would have something small enough to fit into the grooves on the Dewalt battery. I used an old guitar string because I had one handy. I only jumpered them together for less than a minute. The 12-14 volt car battery shouldn't cause any harm to the 20V battery...and it didn't. I have used that rescued battery for about 2 years since then and never had to jump start it again.
@ThunderhawkVeronicaLazerwolf
@ThunderhawkVeronicaLazerwolf Місяць тому
Simple, cheap, and smart!! Thank you
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Місяць тому
You are very welcome! Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@fastsetinthewest
@fastsetinthewest Місяць тому
I'm trying it on the Ryobi. Thanks, hope it works.
@divVerent
@divVerent 3 місяці тому
Beware - this trick can definitely work if the problem is that all cells have a too low voltage. However if all cells but one are good and one cell is dead short - which definitely commonly happens too - it's an easy way to start a fire. To prevent this, chargers for n-cell batteries tend to refuse to charge when the measured voltage is smaller than the fully charged voltage of (n-1) cells. Some chargers are more clever than this and look at the charge/discharge curve to detect this condition more reliably - these chargers will have better chances at reviving a dead battery. Thus, when doing this, best do it outdoors, with no flammable material nearby, and also thoroughly test the battery afterwards - either by fully charging, discharging and recharging once to see if it gets a good charge (on a single cell short you likely will have an "empty" - as in, too low voltage - battery soon after use again) or fully charging, discharging a bit (like a minute of power drilling into the air) and checking its voltage to see if it is near its design voltage (if it has a single cell short, it will go below design voltage very soon after charging and even drawing a small amount of energy from it).
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
Yes but those chargers also blink in a way showing that something is wrong. This method would only introduce enough power so that the charger can recognize it and either start charging it again like normal or if there is an issue, at that point would blink, usually rapidly, to let you know there is an issue and needs to be replaced.
@botondsebok8949
@botondsebok8949 3 місяці тому
Caution! Safety warning! (I add these here, because they are missing from the beginning of the video). The method presented here pose a significant risk of starting an unextinguishable fire, burning a hole through your workbench, burning your house down with chance of severe personal injury "Dead battery" can be caused by many things. All this works, if the problem is overdepletion and the charger does not want to start the charging detecting voltage below its safe limit. However, you can have many other issues: damaged cell, shorted cell, bad contact, or in case of lithium, a malfunctioning protection circuit. Sometimes the protection circuit is not even in the battery, but the tool and the charger. All these can result in pushing huge currents between two batteries with the risk of destroying both and causing injury and damage. If you want to do this safely, read up on battery chemistries and charging parameters, get a precision current limited power supply, properly disassemble the battery packs then analyze and charge each cell according to its specifications. Dear Uploader, I am sure that you mean well with this video and that as a former law enforcement officer, you don't want to put anyone at risk. Please add cautionary warnings, before someone uses this technique innaproriately and injures themselves or destroys something. Thank you, and wish you all a safe and creative new year!
@manoloaquino9779
@manoloaquino9779 Місяць тому
I never know about this techniques, Thanks for the info
@m.s.8312
@m.s.8312 3 місяці тому
Awesome idea, have not had any batteries go dead yet but will now know what to do.
@chrisb391
@chrisb391 2 місяці тому
Dude, you need to mention that if the two scissors touch, you gd ot a dead short. The good battery could explode or catch fire. Somebody is gonna start a fire and sue you. You need a little safety disclaimer...lol
@omargarcia20
@omargarcia20 Місяць тому
Everything at your own risk wtf are you going on about. Part of the stupid label generation
@laserengraver8383
@laserengraver8383 Місяць тому
I got a bunch in my junk drawer. I will try this. Thanks you Sooooooo much.
@tigerdime6117
@tigerdime6117 2 місяці тому
Awesome it worked on my Ryobi 18v, thanks
@gentlemans7579
@gentlemans7579 3 місяці тому
Holy electrical safety Batman! If you don't have alligator clips, go buy some alligator clips!
@Bruce_W
@Bruce_W 3 місяці тому
Agree. That scissors thing is crazy!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
Not really.
@tonyz6421
@tonyz6421 3 місяці тому
For what?
@241sail6
@241sail6 Місяць тому
Very good information. I wasn't aware that this was possible. Thanks for this.
@beammeupscotty9874
@beammeupscotty9874 3 місяці тому
A really valuable tip! Thank you for sharing.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
You're welcome! Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@satxification
@satxification 13 днів тому
Wow, just awesome, thank you.
@mohandasu43
@mohandasu43 Місяць тому
Thank you 🙏 Sir for the great information given to the world to save money.
@doronbenbenisty1430
@doronbenbenisty1430 Місяць тому
Amazing. Thank you so much for putting this video.
@MrBluesluver
@MrBluesluver 22 дні тому
Thank you for the great tip.
@malcolmpalmer7411
@malcolmpalmer7411 3 місяці тому
Excellent Presentation. Thank you for sharing this money saving method.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 3 місяці тому
You are very welcome. Glad you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@lyndasmith8747
@lyndasmith8747 3 місяці тому
Thanks for this video. Very helpful.
@rogerwhitney7720
@rogerwhitney7720 11 днів тому
SOOO VERY cool. Thanx for the tips.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 10 днів тому
You are very welcome! Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@aimaction7393
@aimaction7393 3 місяці тому
FANTASTICALLY WELL PRESENTED.
@ronandonowitz8759
@ronandonowitz8759 3 місяці тому
Very useful process- Thanks!
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