Should I buy this 2013 Nissan Leaf 24 kWh with 40 % battery degradation?
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@timoliver8940 Рік тому
Robert Llewelyn of Fully Charged has a video of the battery swap he did on his 2011 Leaf - he upgraded to not only a new battery but a bigger capacity one. Look at it this way, if you buy it and do it up you are saving a “classic” EV to run a bit longer. May also be a good basis for a series of videos - “How I saved a Leaf that was about to die”
@Blasterxp Рік тому
Big move, the car isnt done. So i agree!
@timoliver8940 Рік тому
Maybe I should have said “wilt” instead of die then!
@kjh789az Рік тому
"How I saved a Leaf that was about to fall." LoL
@youxkio Рік тому
AGREE!!!!
@jasonriddell Рік тому
I for one would LOVE to see a "sad" LEAF saved and made a GOOD USED CAR I see to many "arguments" online that start with batteries last (fake short amount of time) and cost (inflated price) to change and would love to see a "BAD" battery be revived for I expect same or LESS then a modern "fuel" car engine rebuild - a "normal" repair for an older car and one not considered a "death warrant"
@gridjac Рік тому
It’s easy for us to spend your money, but personally, I’d love to see a series of videos on how you saved this Leaf. Battery repair, or even an upgrade to the larger pack, cleaning up the paint, removing the mold and “blood stains.”
@DerBlauzahn Рік тому
You also could call Muxsan, maybe for another cooperation to replace and upgrade the battery, they also can replace CHAdeMO to CCS.
@karlitono Рік тому
My colleague bought something like this. Uses it now as a biiiiig flowerpot in the garden.
@EddBallinger Рік тому
If it’s got enough range for your use case, then yes. And please do a zero mile test for a laugh 😂
@kenion2166 Рік тому
1000 km challenge 😆
@sebbecht Рік тому
I have a 2014 Leaf with ~20% degradation. I still get 130km in summer and ~100 in winter if above freezing. Nothing has ever been broken on it other than bulbs. We will have it as a secondary short trip car till it dies. Its been super reliable and cheap to drive. This year, the tax return for driving to work was about double the cost of the electricity we spent.
@abarc2010 Рік тому
Bjorn I've been in car since more than 35 years. When I decided to move to EV i started looking for info about ev car and 4 years ago I found your chanel.. Since that day I've move on and now I own an Ioniq 2017 that I bought following the view of your video. In all ev chanel that I am viewing there's nothing to compare with your review and test. I am in opinion that you may be the only one who can really spot the real use of the car and review the exact thing of what we need. I don't get it why you have so little view in your video.. You should be on top view of most chanel. Thanks Bjorn again you're are The Reference in yhe industry for testing ev and yes manufacturer should look to your video to improving their car as VW do as you say all the time. Keep doing the greatest job on ev review and as this video showing, I think you should do more use ev car review with this garage to help people that are looking for cheep ev car.. Many thanks Bjorn really appreciate your work..
@phiiz3r Рік тому
Would be interesting to see how much improvement it can get by replacing a few battery modules. Yeah, full battery replacements are super expensive but getting cheaper by the month. There are even companies working on replacements with modern cells and active cooling.
@you2be839 Рік тому
Replacing a few battery modules seems like a 2 step process: you replace some now at a lower cost than a full battery replacement, but eventually you'll need to repair the rest. So, for me, it's either: you're ok with the car as it is or; you replace the whole battery because you think it's not that expensive.
@Chrisb8s Рік тому
If people comment no, it is because they didn’t watch the entire video. I think that it would be cool to find a way to bring this old ev back to life and for your use case it would be nice
@electricguy109 Рік тому
I would say No. why? 1. PTC tend to break on those ones 2. Battery is degraded but what's worse is that although the SOC is high, you can have the turtle (bad cells) 3. The whole brake system needs to be changed (and there's always the potential brake issue in cold temperature) It was a great first gen EV but it's aging now and unless you have unlimited cash, I would look for an Ioniq EV eGolf.
@matroosoft4589 Рік тому
I have a 2011 Leaf with 8 bars, and I can tell you, your real winter range is only 50km. My commute is 46km single trip with mostly 80-100km/h stretches. With temperatures around 0C and a bit of wind, I barely make it to work with a few km of range left. An important factor is the resistive heater which uses about 3kw on average. Newer Leafs have the heat pump but afaik that is only from the 30kWh Leaf which came out around 2015. But I'm not completely sure about that, I would check that if I were you. Summer range is about 60-70km. As for driving comfort, it is the best car I ever had. It's a really comfortable car to drive. Also, the multimedia unit is pretty good for a car of that time. If you can make it with 50km range, I can for sure recommend the car if the price is good. It will make for a few interesting videos as well. Maybe you can do some other tests that you didn't do so far, like chargin curve or even 1000km challenge. That would be interesting haha.
@gelisob Рік тому
this is 6 months too early car :) 2013 second half the gen2's started to roll out. Dark interior, no electronic handbrake to die on you (button in middle console). The dark interior one also has heatpump that this does not have. Affects range a lot. And they also can be easily adopted to all batteries up to from 2022 leafs (probably beyond too). And it has no hump in the boot. Thats the one I've got, 2013 second half, gen2, heatpump etc. I also did some battery fix ( because taxi had hammered it 80 000km per year) before full replacement. Vids on channel. Your car must have lived in a hot country or sit at 100% for very long.. getting SOH so low with only 88k - pretty tricky in northern country. Mine was at 70% after 300k+
@nfspeedy2 Рік тому
I like this shit please more of that kind of stuff! ❤
@therandomtester9561 Рік тому
8:00 198 QC 2822 L1/L2 vs 1 QC 13 L1/L2 This means 198 chademo sessions, 2822 chargingsessions with "slowcharging" (J1772). The other car must be reset or changed battery. Red lines means it is balancing those cells, all normal there.
@luc_libv_verhaegen Рік тому
Leaf extreme makeover, and even a cheap battery swap in future would be fantastic content.
@matthewlibanio8227 Рік тому
Bjorn, my mom got a new 24kwh pack directly from Nissan and it is incredible. It actively heats itself every morning, not like the one it came with from 2012. Nissan has really improved the 24Kwh battery for the old Leaf. Cost $12,000 Canadian to do it, but very worth it. In warmer weather it gets an easy 175 kms which is awesome compared to original 120kms or so we got. You should check it out. Battery stays fairly normal after DC charge too. Not too hot like the old pack that cooked badly!
@jasonriddell Рік тому
I have a 2014 pickup and 5 years ago it had the engine "blow up" and was swapped out under warranty and the "bill" was $14000 CDN for a rebuilt motor and I got ZERO more range OR performance where you GOT an UPGRADE and a BETTER car then NEW
@jarlesol3865 Рік тому
Thank you for this video, looking forward to the next. Hope it is possible to fix the battery, and interesting to hear how much that will cost.
@MsWoodgnome Рік тому
Enjoyed it - nice to see a bit of wear and tear!
@frankelf3151 Рік тому
Find a decent example from late 2013/early 2014 where they had the new battery chemistry. There are plenty of those samples that you can find with 75%+ SOH.
@JPetr94 Рік тому
I would drive it down to at least 20% and checked cell voltages again. If cells are quite even, it can be considered to buy despite low capacity. If some cells are really bad i would stay away because of potential pack repair.
@jasonriddell Рік тому
at the end of the VID he was talking about PACK REPAIRS so IMHO a FEW BAD cells would actually be a "GOOD" thing as hopefully the rest are healthy and mated with new-er cells the total capacity will return to closer to new then if it is evenly degraded across the pack
@kemaraaramek3178 Рік тому
Dumping a 10-year old car would be unacceptable both environmentally and for the consumer standpoint. Pure madness.
@brembodream Рік тому
Interesting video. We have a leaf that need battery repair. Exiting to see how ElbilMek is going to fix this battery. Very good content. A lot of old leafs in Norway. Important knowledge charing..
@jcflippen1552 Рік тому
Excellent subject. Would love to see the practicality of renovating a low range car for local travel use.
@mischa6544 Рік тому
Hi, that would be cool to do a series with some used EV advices, some cars got issues and other "flawless".
@roybm3124 Рік тому
Yes as restoration project it would be cool.
@tucsonor Рік тому
A first generation this one. I had a 2012, lowed it. Swapped the battery to a 40kW. Had to change IBC once (A normal fault on these). But when the PTC(water) heather broke, and I put in a new. I found that the fuse inside the "engine" for the heather also was gone. A operation that take a day or two to manage. So I sold it, had been running 180.000 km . But regret now, would have been fun to owned as the only thing to take care of os the mech things shown here. The brakes, balljoints, sway bar linkage, (Had to service them as well) is normal to wear, and was easy to change. now I drive a 2919 40kW Leaf. Same car actually, but with some minor "upgrades".
@simond7582 Рік тому
do it! mine is the same degredation. great for around town still.
@zwedenhuizen Рік тому
Always amazed about the i3 batteries. Our 2014 is still in almost perfect condition
@BaumeisterKnese Рік тому
BMW played the save Game and and has a very large buffer built into the capacity of the battery. So the batteries last forever. I don't think the new BMWs are built on that level of security anymore.
@Kermit26297 Рік тому
Yep - had a 2017 i3. We sold it about a year ago (so 5 years old) and the battery capacity was still near 100%. Loved that car.
@simonm1447 Рік тому
BMW had thermal management from day one on. These batteries are better than the Leaf batteries
@jasonriddell Рік тому
@@BaumeisterKnese GM BOLT and VOLT ran HUGE buffers also on there batteries so it "appears" to have the same battery as new for a VERY LONG time and allows "100%" CHARGE WITHOUT 100% SOC being reached as that is "buffer" from 90% SOC showing as 100% I saw an i3 earlier today it LOOKED brand NEW and was far from it I am sure
@jarthurs Рік тому
It's an early 2013 Japanese import model with the battery bump in the boot. The heater will chew through the remaining charge in minutes. The later 2013 models had heat-pumps and a courtesy light by the charging socket, you also got extra boot space because the later models had better battery chemistry and a smaller battery pack.
@pavelbalusek9121 Рік тому
Battery bump? It Is on board charger...
@superleggenda Рік тому
Rob Llewellyn from Fully Charged already posted a pretty good battery swap video. Those are pretty interesting, and your subscribers would probably enjoy watching your take on the procedure. Not sure how legal it would be, Brits have a loose definition of what can be done to a vehicle while still keeping it roadworthy. A series where you buy the car, test degradation, refurbish it like you did with Millennium Falcon, then swap the battery and compare range would be pretty fun. You could also wrap the car with a more interesting color or add some Nismo parts… But you are already pretty busy testing new cars. Consider cloning yourself 😂
@jasonriddell Рік тому
it is ALMOST stornberg blue so maybe a (sponsored) decal kit
@t.d.5804 Рік тому
Do not buy this car. I do have three Nissan Leaf batteries (each 22kWh) as a PV home storage. One has 20% degradation, the others 10%. Under 30% SOC the cells drift apart. You can use this car 30-100%, low Soc = shutoff. Is that enough range ? Do not let it sit with low Soc. Same with my SmartED (10 years old). I do not go under 20%, the weak cells suffer more, you will ruin the battery. The leaf had individual modules, it is possible to check each and put together a better set. But that is time consuming. Here as a PV storage there is no problem because the load is very low (C5 or less), that causes only little cell diff. Change the 12V battery, an old one will recharge often and drain the HV batt.
@kjh789az Рік тому
Will be interesting to compare cost of a battery replacement with a modules fix or, an upgrade in size as 28 is very small. Love the car interior tour - Bjorn fighting his natural perfectionism, trying to ignore unpleasant stains and gradually losing it! LoL.
@georgepelton5645 Рік тому
Thanks Bjørn for this video. Maintenance and restoration of older EVs is an interesting topic. I would suggest looking at several cars before buying this one. You likely will find one that doesn't need as much work for a similar price. However, maybe this one would generate more interesting videos about repairs and restoration, so maybe it would be a good one for you, if not most other used car buyers. I haven't seen any videos about Millennium Falcon for a while. Why are you looking for a replacement "press car shuttle?"
@johniooi3954 Рік тому
Servicing is something many EV owners moan about. The say, does it require servicing as much as a ICE. Yet they are missing the point, that while a ICE has a more complicated engine & gearbox. The rest of the car is pretty much the same. Then as the video brakes are a big issue, due to lack of physical usage. Not forgetting the EV motor & all the high voltage cables & battery to look after.
@GabrielAbdellah Рік тому
There's one more thing you'll need to consider, Björn! The first generation of LEAFs didn't have a heat pump, so you would see an extreme range drop in the winter where you live since it only has a "hair dryer kind of heater"... But maybe it would still be sufficient for your needs if you just replace a few cells in the battery. Still, I think you might be able to find a car that better fits your needs, but I love the stories where the cars live on for ever after someone just takes good care of it! Especially EV's!
@fire_stick Рік тому
No Get a =>2014 will have better battery chemistry and also V2G capability. You will be spending €1000s on a new battery
@farnsworth3000 Рік тому
You could also use it as solar storage at your new house! It has v2g!
@brianramsgaard8017 Рік тому
7:41 LeafSpy shows 198 Quick Charges and 2822 Normal Charges. The number of QCs should not give that much SOH degradation. My gen 1.1 Leaf in Denmark from 2014 with 92.500 km and 300 QC got 81 % SOH.
@sie4431 Рік тому
He speculates that it could have been sitting at a high state of charge for long periods or been in a hot country. Given that it's in Norway the former seems most likely but you never know. Apparenlty if you charge lithium-ion to, say, 100% and don't use it that can really harm battery health. Obviously the more you do this the more damage you're causing so coming home, charging it and then leaving it charged for over 2 days every week for 10 years might really do some damage
@michaelcharach Рік тому
3000 charges on a 90k car means it was charged every 30KM!
@timsmith5339 Рік тому
I would be interested to see if the battery can recover with more gentle treatment. If not, you can then replace cells as others have suggested.
@jaroslavoverlordprasecibri317 Рік тому
I bought one with 66% SOH and the max capacity was 12.6 in optimal battery temp. The solution was the battery swap with newer and bigger. Even the battery looked like it has 2 or 3 weak cells in the middle of rear block. After measuring capacity of every cell separately I found only 5-6% capacity difference between best cell and worst one. It took more then 2 month to measure they. Every cell 2 times. So replacing worst cell could make improve range about 6 percent. So my decision not to replace these 3 cells and buy whole new battery was right. Disassembled buttery works already several months in the home energy storage system and it it looks has more then 12.5kWh even I do not use extreme low SOC.
@AllPr0 Рік тому
Yes, Reuse>Recycle
@DashDrones Рік тому
Hmmm 1st gen, it will be a nice little run around. I have a 1.5 gen from 2015, still the perfect car around town and I've put 160,000kms on it. Still has 80-100km range weather dependent. Buy it if it's cheap 👍
@oreskec Рік тому
if it can be repaired economically, you should buy it, get it road legal first, then test this old battery (range, 0 mile test...) and then get the battery repaired/replaced and repeat the tests, it would be cool content, off course if you have time for all that
@MortenB0 Рік тому
How is cell balancing working on a Leaf ? Does it balance cells after 100% ? If so maybe leaving it on AC for a long time will balance cells and you get some battery power back ?
@Kermit26297 Рік тому
Bjorn: Mold? Okay. That sticker? It’s got to go!
@jasonriddell Рік тому
clearly the "wrong" footy club and there are NO WORSE SINS then the wrong club
@nadeemahmed324 Рік тому
Yes. And work out cheapest and easiest way to restore the battery. We need to know how to keep these cars going.. and if anyone out there can update the BMS and add thermal management. Or convert to CCS to future proof it. I also heard that it should be possible to increase the power of the motor too.
@jasonriddell Рік тому
I for one want to know how to buy a USED one and bring it back to "like new" usability with 5+ years of LIFE as I can NOT afford $50+ for a new/ nearly new EV
@frode_channel8774 Рік тому
You will also get heavy degradation if the battery has been left at a very low SOC or at 100% over a significant amount of time. Like if you take it down to 5% SOC and leave it for a week or 2 in the cold. Something to think about for those driving to the airport and leave their car for 2-3 weeks while on vacation.
@paal.skodjevaag Рік тому
Many nice challenges both inside and outside of this car for those who like that kind of thing 😉
@a1peck Рік тому
Do a 100km challenge 😅
@erlendhammersmarkhansen6359 Рік тому
Please make more videos about this car, its degraded battery, rapairs etc.
@davidviola9564 Рік тому
How about the leaf battery company with 3rd party solutions. I believe they're in Australia or New Zealand. Awesome video opportunity there.
@achikokaxeli Рік тому
Bjorn i have exactly similar leaf, same color same generation ZE0 and have 7 bars from 2012, i own it since 2018, good to see videos about it 👍
@GavinScrimgeour Рік тому
Hello, can you please tell me the range you get with and without the heater on?
@achikokaxeli Рік тому
@@GavinScrimgeour In winter without heater around 70km with it 50, in summer 100km without A/C
@GavinScrimgeour Рік тому
@@achikokaxeli Thank you for replying 👍🏻 that’s about 40 miles winter with no heat, 30 miles winter with heat and in the better weather 60 miles. Even that would be fine for me doing my local commute and journeys. I’ve got a 2017 Leaf with 11 bars and it’s fantastic. Have a good weekend 😁
@jasonriddell Рік тому
@@achikokaxeli how cold is "winter" I ask from central Canada and have a 50 KM round trip commute but CAN level 1 charge at work
@alanhold2468 Рік тому
Very interesting Bjorn🙏👊
@steveyoung8376 Рік тому
you can diagnose degrade modules and swop that module , dealers such as cleverly EV in Uk do battery repairs
@emceh Рік тому
Buy it and swap battery for 40kWh to show us how it goes
@bjornnyland Рік тому
It needs to be re-approved and the battery also costs lots of money.
@plottoo Рік тому
@@bjornnyland the guy from „fully charged” UKposts channel swapped the battery, so still there are some possibilities. But probably there are just better and cheaper (when including battery change and other repairs) electric cars in Norway
@t.w.3 Рік тому
@@bjornnyland Hei Bjørn. @DalasEVRepair has all you need for making it both legal and working properly.
@danielstefanovic2604 Рік тому
To expensive, had the rest been good then Yeah but fixing the brakes and getting a 40kwh battery costs more then the car is worth.
@LucidSnapshots Рік тому
Is there a followup video coming on this?
@tokepanduro7302 Рік тому
I have a leaf from 2014 and it have don about 150.000 km - I lost one bar. Leaf from 2014 and onward have a much better battery life than the earlier versions
@johumm455 Рік тому
inspect and repair if feasible.
@Bud_Terence Рік тому
Verry intresting Stuff. 👍
@95jeffjeff Рік тому
Well, in Canada, Chademo is phasing out so probably not the best idea but specifics usage cases can work (like not needing Chademo), as long as the price is right.
@jasonriddell Рік тому
where in Canada is Chademo being phased out ??? Pet-the-can in Manatoba is fitting out dual station chargers with CCS/Chademo and the CO-OP near me put in a 2 dual stand chargers CCS offered far higher charge rates but "old" cars like a leaf and iMEAV dont take those high charge rates due to small battery capacity I know VW / electrify America is phasing it out
@yoyyaesta4808 Рік тому
What about a 10 hour challenge? Al 70-90km/h avoiding highways, ¿is it posible to make maybe 400km?
@ConstantijnKool Рік тому
Hi Bjorn what's happening with melenium falcon?
@justgetatesla Рік тому
Brings back a lot of mixed memories from our 2014 Leaf. Don't do it Bjorn!
@johnm2879 Рік тому
Great project - just do enough to make the car practical for daily use. This would then represent what an average person would do, not an EV enthusiast with "unlimited" money. This would then show the way to keep these cars on the road for many years for the average driver.
@firehog Рік тому
You were thinking of ozone generator, O3. Deodorising like no other.
@andersnor2 Рік тому
Min første elbil var en "andre" generasjon Leaf fra 2014 (USA import). Den hadde SOH på 86% etter 130 000km. Tok godt vare på den og den sviktet aldri. Er erstattet av en Xpeng G3 nå.
@Maunose Рік тому
Only if you do the 1000km test on it!
@AndyM... Рік тому
Well, it's a lot better than my Outlander PHEV which has at about 60% degradation now! (just over 100K)🤧
@piercebutler3314 Рік тому
This is a 2012 (pre heat pump) based on the battery form factor, interior, slower onboad charger, rims etc. and not a 2013 which would have a heat pump, different battery and interior. Some good things with the Japanese built Leaf but definitively some draw backs (retrofitting bigger capacity battery packs and not such a great heater at is a PTC heater only. Slow to heat up and not great at keeping cabin warm during extreme cold.
@SamiHentunen Рік тому
Don't buy a 2011-early 2013 LEAF. The battery chemistry in those sucks. The later 24 kWh batteries are very good though.
@victorsp3780 Рік тому
Agree, 2014 + Tekna. Nice leather seats too and better trunk space.
@xdellavedova Рік тому
my nissan leaf have 25% SOH looking forward to suggestions and suppliers of new battery modules
@jasonriddell Рік тому
how much if ANY range is that equate to ???
@xdellavedova Рік тому
@@jasonriddell 30km
@villei Рік тому
You should talk to Dala from Kempower. Check out his UKposts channel (Dala's EV Repair), maybe you guys can collab?
@kristoffergo6973 Рік тому
What happened to your Model S that you used to drive?
@antoniocirino8444 Рік тому
Chademo to Ccs retrofit kit is available?
@berthogendoorn2133 Рік тому
O3 ozone sanitizer for odour and mold
@SURFpal Рік тому
Why not but an iMiev/ Czero/Ion, they still get 120km after 6 years, less 30km with heat on, Costa 40 000nok/4000usd.
@ashton9699 Рік тому
This is a 2012 model Leaf not 2013. Indicated by the different inverter stack, onboard charger in the trunk, tan cloth interior, and electronic park brake. The 11-12 cars are much worse for battery degradation than the 13+ cars, even in cold climate.
@BaumeisterKnese Рік тому
would be interesting as a project car what it costs to restore an old electric car. maybe with a battery exchange in Holland you can also convert leaf to ccs there.
@matroosoft4589 Рік тому
Yeah Muxsan does this in the Netherlands although I don't hear from him lately. He didn't release a video for a long time and his Twitter is dead silent.
@dixonsindorset Рік тому
@@matroosoft4589 From what I understand from Muxsan, he is just super busy with the battery swaps, upgrades and preparing to sell kits for 3rd party garages and doesn't have time for promoting himself online. I looked at his prices a couple of times and they are way beyond what would be economically viable. It's just cheaper to upgrade the whole car to a newer model Leaf.
@rozarijorodin Рік тому
If you want to reaper that battery, I can help you... Only problem after reaper that this leaf is going to have over 500km range... Let me know if you want any help with...
@78PierreC Рік тому
God project car, like for a swap to EV Enhanceds liquid cooled LFP-battery. :-)
@vedranart Рік тому
This is Leaf from 2011. Old battery because it doesn't have black interior. It's the first Leaf with inverter behind the back seats... Rather look for 2014+ Leaf and change the battery to 30 or 40kWh or more. Mine 2014 24kWh Leaf was at 64% SoH and I could do 70km in best weather conditions and maximum of 50km in winter...
@geirhaugen3781 Рік тому
Perfect car for batteryswap. 40kwh fits.
@LindaBe Рік тому
I love the idea of showing how much it costs ( time and money) to bring an old leaf back to life. But I thought your old Tesla model S was your go to car? And oh please do more below zero tests... EV 6 for instance
@bjornnyland Рік тому
Already done it for Niro EV. Very similar car. I will of course not do it for *every* model I test.
@Samsuraja Рік тому
If you want a 24kWh Leaf then get the ones with black interior. They have much better battery and was produced from mid 2013.
@Curryolla Рік тому
Nissan Leaf project car. See how efficient you can make it! And, see how much range you can add! Drop the suspension, lighten the car, aero wheels, skinny tires, aero skirts/covers! Would be a fun project on this channel.
@Curryolla Рік тому
On second thought...this Leaf is too kaput to spend too much money on it!
@zyzzyva303 Рік тому
Please put orange pinstripes on it, Bjorn.
@MM-px8rn Рік тому
What happened with Millenium Falcon?
@afterburner94 Рік тому
Fully expect Kyle Conner to pop-up in the comments shouting "Yes please buy it!!!"
@aarong9378 Рік тому
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeit. When I got rid of my LEAF, it had about the same mileage and 85% SOH. This battery had a hard life.
@exter666 Рік тому
Yes
@Ethix1988 Рік тому
That's a 2012 built in Japan, after that it's built in England and don't have the charger in the cargo area. I have one built in 2012 but registered in traffic here in sweden last of october 2013. But with 78% SOH.
@nfspeedy2 Рік тому
Yes its one of the first generations Leaf made in Japan. Its called the Opama Leaf because of the manufacturing plant in Opama Japan. These Opama Leafs even have a heat pump.
@Ethix1988 Рік тому
@@nfspeedy2 It for sure don't have a heat pump not before 2013 only PTC heater that heats coolant in the engine bay that circulate into the cabine.
@AaronStarkLinux Рік тому
Just to clarify, this Leaf is from Norway, and the winter there is extreme. If you live in the centre of Europe or south, this is not gonna be a problem. Our EVs from 2013 look like brand new, rust is not a problem at all. This seems a pretty extreme case of snow parking for long periods of time.
@jasonriddell Рік тому
living in central Canada that 2013 LOOKS NEW there are 10 year old cars NOT FIT for the road here due to rust out and for the rotor rust I am a heavy truck mechanic and see that rusting on brake rotors and that is NOT from "under using" the brakes
@LoneWolf-wp9dn Рік тому
13:28 wooow use the brakes more so they dont rust out... so much for regeneration... i suppose a few hard stops every once in a while would be enough to keep them in good shape... speed up and brake hard every time you come home
@jasonriddell Рік тому
I work on semi trucks in Canada and see the same thing on 44 tonne heavy truck disks / granted they have dyna brakes and a "good" driver will use the "jake" and not the pedal to slow down but I doubt they "never" use the service brakes to stop considering I work on construction / dump trucks
@ezquimal Рік тому
Bjorn you can upgrade the battery of a Opel Ampera?
@bjornnyland Рік тому
No
@lolish3k Рік тому
I got 2012 in alooot better condition it looks like new battery is about 17kWh i really like leaf once i left it for 6 monts in the garage with 53% and it still had 53% when i got back love that unolugged that is
@DigiDriftZone Рік тому
It self discharges to around 50% and then the self discharge slows down. If it was at 100%, it would still be at around 50% when you returned to it - it was probably closer to 30-35% remaining after this time period, but charge level indicated vs actual is a bit of a dark art :)
@Biltesteren-NOR Рік тому
Info about brand new battery then the car was brand new: Nominal Capacity 24 kWh Useable Capacity 22 kWh That is for models from 2011 to 2013
@tellusw9701 Рік тому
20,5kWh usable when new. For model year 2010-2016. Approx 3% degradation per year is normal for Leaf.
@stianthomassen6693 Рік тому
I heard something about that some deep degradation is because of one or two faulty cells in the battery pack, fixing/replacing those brings the kwh up again. I have no idea if that is the case here, but is there anyway to test that?
@jasonriddell Рік тому
I assume that is what is being tested and we will "find out" in a later vid he did allude to Kia eSouls having that type of issue
@TheTuareg Рік тому
Used Leaf 2 Generation with 62kwh would be interesting for me
@kulan9379 Рік тому
I would buy it and put the motor in an old classic, and when i got everything running in the classic car runs sell parts out of the car, then when the parts is sold scrap the rest. The car as is looks crappy.
@MrFabianschmidt Рік тому
Hi everyone! How is it poseble to have that kind of degradation? 😶
@you2be839 Рік тому
It's time to get some popcorn, because we're now getting more and more of these cheap EVs with low battery capacity being available in the second hand market, with batteries well outside the manufacturer's battery warranty and with severe battery degradation. So it will be interesting to see "the true cost" of buying and servicing an old EV, and replacing its battery to, at least, bring it as close as possible to its original range...
@berthogendoorn2133 Рік тому
I heard that there is a company that uses BYD blade battery that can replace the Leaf 24kwh and has battery condioning such as heating cooling. Price not bid money!
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