Simple Transistor Curve Tracer for Oscilloscopes.

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EdEditz

EdEditz

День тому

FREE PDF FILE AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD! Link at the bottom of this text!. I know the curve is the wrong way around but simply invert your X channel to fix that.
This is a very simple Curve Tracer circuit. It's simple enough to put it up on a bread-board. It can do all sorts of semi-conductors like Transistors (Si or Ge), Diodes and you'll even get traces from a PNP transistor. It measures the Collector current as a function of the Collector/Emitter Voltage at different Base currents. You can determine the number of traces on screen by changing the ratio between C4 and C5 (change value of C4). If you make a print for this and build it onto a case you could use a multi-step switch with different capacitors so you can dial in the number of traces on screen. If you invert channel one (X) then the traces will point to the right, like you normally see with curve tracers.
The Germanium transistor I demonstrated in this video was actually a PNP transistor, that's why it gave the weird curve but I didn't know that at the time :) (I'm no expert ^__^).
On my website I've written an article about this curve tracer with some test pictures and the best scope settings for viewing traces. You can read that here:
www.eddybergman.com/2017/06/si...
You can find the original article in English here:
archive.org/details/ElektorMa...
I've made a PDF file of the original article which is written in Dutch but anyway, you'll have the schematics and the PCB layout.
Here's the download link:
www.mediafire.com/file/ywoapb4...
(Should you have trouble downloading this document then write a comment below and I'll contact you and send it via email.)

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@pentachronic
@pentachronic 6 років тому
This is a very clever circuit. The ramp generator is just beautifully elegant.
@vladnickul
@vladnickul 3 роки тому
Old magazines are the best.lots of diy projects in them usefull ones too! Today they are mostly commercial platforms tones of commercials, and the projects are around this line Lts build this! 1 need to have a dev kit form X amimed at students costs 1k€ .... I had once a collection of electronics magazines from Russia, they had projects like a 100Mhz analog scope, transcivers,computer clones+ misc like memory upgrades stereo audio cards , TV stuff audio transceivers and so much more. One can find super nice projects in the magazines from the '90 and back.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 3 роки тому
That's correct. You can still find the old magazines on Archive.org.
@warrencurry874
@warrencurry874 6 років тому
EdEditz, this is an excellent presentation for a fully functional curve tracer. Been wanting to build one of these for a long time. Many thanks. WA9KZY
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 6 років тому
Thank you very much! I'm glad this video helped you out :)
@elletronicca5933
@elletronicca5933 2 роки тому
Nice circuit. Simple and efficient. Thanks sharing.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 2 роки тому
Your welcome :)
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 роки тому
Amazing circuit - very cool!
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 4 роки тому
Thank you! I thought so too :)
@alexharijanto9137
@alexharijanto9137 6 років тому
excellent ...thank you
@cremvustila
@cremvustila 11 місяців тому
This is great! Thanks for sharing!
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 11 місяців тому
No problem. Glad you like it!
@esnam6557
@esnam6557 2 роки тому
Very helpful and neat. Thank you
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 2 роки тому
Thank you! Glad you liked it! :)
@ulisesaguilar4392
@ulisesaguilar4392 5 років тому
thks a lot , I will give a try
@ohmedarick1
@ohmedarick1 5 років тому
Thank you Very useful.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
Thank you! I'm glad you found it useful. :)
@elraymaker
@elraymaker 2 роки тому
Gracias !!!
@drtidrow
@drtidrow 5 років тому
Neat, gonna have to play with this. Analog scopes generally work better for x/y mode... which is why I have both types. :-)
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
Yes they do. It should work great! :)
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 4 роки тому
Average mode should do the trick I think. But I will slow down the measurement.
@ulisesaguilar4392
@ulisesaguilar4392 6 років тому
very nice information ED I will get back letter
@ItStartsWithAStep
@ItStartsWithAStep 6 років тому
I'll be honest ed this went over my head but it looks pretty cool what's it actually used for? Felt very relaxed watching this for some reason thumbs up x
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 6 років тому
Haha well as long as you liked it :) It shows how a transistor reacts if you put different amounts of current through it. For electronics nerds like myself, this is useful information if you're building circuits with transistors but if you're not into electronics you should just skip this video ^____^
@ulisesaguilar4392
@ulisesaguilar4392 5 років тому
Im getting only like 3 tracers
@Lutzki140
@Lutzki140 5 років тому
JFETS kan het niet uitlezen, geldt dat ook voor V-Fets? Heb je ook een onderdelenlijst? Is wel leuk om na te bouwen!
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
Nee hij doet alleen bi-polar transistors. De gewone NPN PNP dingen. Ik heb er een komplete blogpost over geschreven met het originele artikel erin die je zo kunt downloaden. Dit staat op mijn persoonlijke website hier: www.eddybergman.com/2017/06/
@ulisesaguilar4392
@ulisesaguilar4392 5 років тому
good after noon Sir a question , where do conect the scope grown
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
The scope ground is under the 330 Ohm resistor. That black upsidedown "T" symbol is the ground. Or you could say the Collector of the Transisitor Under Test (TUT) is the ground
@robertw1871
@robertw1871 5 років тому
Would most likely be better on a cheap cathode ray analog scope, nice simple implementation that most could build in an afternoon to make something useful.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
Absolutely. That would be perfect for this curve tracer.
@VoteBikety
@VoteBikety 6 років тому
good work but how to make PNPs version ??
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 6 років тому
Yes, that was what I was wondering too. The text said just swap the NPN's for PNP's and vise versa but that didn't work for me. I don't know the answer.
@pentachronic
@pentachronic 6 років тому
FYI, I believe I have both an NPN and a PNP version of this circuit working in LTSPICE. You have to swap around the bases of T6 and TUT as well as move R8 to T6. In essence the step is now driving the top transistor and the ramp is driving the bottom transistor (TUT). TUT.c connects to GND. I will share the LTSPICE files if anyone has a place to upload. I have alos added a blanking circuit for XYZ oscilloscope option.
@Inkreptile
@Inkreptile 3 роки тому
@@pentachronic did you upload it anywhere in the end ? I have a xyz capable scope and that would be very usefull :) as for hosting files google drive can do that just have to make it public so you don't have to give consent to every person who requests to load the link hope this helps
@ronwade2206
@ronwade2206 18 днів тому
We did this in old marantz and sylvania stuff, realized there was no saving these things and went mp3.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 17 днів тому
Very wise :)
@basstard13
@basstard13 5 років тому
Sorry for the noob question but can you use this for JFET curve tracing? Thank you in advance
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
You know, I'm not sure. I'll give it a try and let you know.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
I tried it but no, it doesn't work with JFETs. It seems the step generator in the circuit won't work with JFETs.
@basstard13
@basstard13 5 років тому
@@EdEditz Thanks a lot!
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 5 років тому
@@basstard13 No problem :)
@whatever3041
@whatever3041 4 роки тому
JFET's need a triangular input signal for curve tracing.
@sado2364
@sado2364 4 роки тому
Hello can you share the circuit
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 4 роки тому
Link is in the description to the complete article with circuit schematics
@2626sylver2626
@2626sylver2626 4 роки тому
I've downloaded 3 times and the quality of the image on pdf is veeeeery poor I will try to search this diagram on internet
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 4 роки тому
I've added a link to the original text and schematics in English on Archive.org. The link is in the description. The file from Mediafire is in very high resolution (I checked it again today) so if you get it in low resolution there's something wrong on your side. I've had no complaints about it in all the time this video has been up.
@whatever3041
@whatever3041 4 роки тому
Hi, I have a question, why do the lines get shorter as we move up the trace?
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 4 роки тому
That's a good one! I have no idea. :)
@MoonDragn77
@MoonDragn77 3 роки тому
My college days were about 30 years ago so I can't be 100% sure but I think the shorter curve is related to your peak wattage of the transistor. Because you are increasing both the current and voltage, the trace gets shorter.
@nutsnproud6932
@nutsnproud6932 3 роки тому
I found the whole magazine PDF in English after a search for "elektor 301 circuits pdf"
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 3 роки тому
Oh I see the original link I posted isn't working anymore. Can you post the one you found?
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 3 роки тому
Nevermind, I already found the article myself. I made an image of it and posted it underneath the article for everyone to download.
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