Haha I was thinking of saying that, but there are a few cheaper ways-not by much, but still... I'll talk about those next week ;)

HAHAHAHAAA!!!!! - At least you have a cool display to tinker with after you get that CM4 you've been looking for :D

wonder if it'd work with other CM4 compatible boards like Banana Pi's new compute module

But can the display play back 4K Dolby Vision video, with True HD, or DTS-HD-MA audio? My TV can, from my (RPI4) Plex server, in direct playback mode. Or from Disney Plus etc. Probably not.

@@JeffGeerling Good to hear! Because Pis are now 2-3x MSRP :(

You can build your own! :-)

Malware & spyware

I'd highly recommend installing pi-hole. I installed it like 3 weeks ago. Never seen a single Ad on the Tv. But the amount of requests that get blocked is just nuts.

What allot of people dont realize is that consumer TVs are actually subsidized to include this.

@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 how install this on a smart tv?

Selfishly, I actually kinda like it. The prices are heavily subsidized by companies like Netflix and Amazon who pay the manufacturers for including dedicated buttons on the remotes and selling them usage data, so I get it much cheaper and then I just connect it to my HTPC and never use any of that crap (hell, I don't even connect the TV to the Internet).

Just have to make sure the TV doesn't also have an always-on microphone or camera!

@@JeffGeerling 1984 was a manual for some of these TVs

@@hellterminator I thought a similar approach would work well for us until the built-in "smart" software started crashing regularly. It's frustrating to have a TV that works fine as a display but keeps being kneecapped by the computer inside it. The dedicated buttons on the remote are annoying as any accidental press will exit the input it was on. It also doesn't help that those dedicated buttons take up a majority of the remote faceplate, increasing odds they will be accidentally pressed. Almost like it is intentional... Own nothing and like it? No thanks, not for me.

@@gannas42 Well, that sucks. My TV doesn't crash. And I don't even use the remote - the only thing I need the TV to do is turn on and off and my HTPC handles that through CEC.

Samsung OS is actually one of the best. The problem with smart tv is they use garbage SoCs

@@mod4rchive not the new Samsung OS’s, it’s filled with ads and a very clunky ui

@@mod4rchive As someone who has a circa 2009 Samsung TV, if they're one of the best, then all the rest must be the worst garbage in town. Even when it was brand new it was slow and hyper annoying. Especially when bad signal caused it to lockup, sometimes until you pull the power cord.

Of of the manufacturers--I want to say TCL--was very up-front about the fact that it actually costs more these days to sell a "dumb" TV than a Smart TV, because the latter will be subsidized by the expected user data collection revenue. That is to say, these is zero incentive for anyone to make an open OS TV, as it would be even more expensive to cater to the (sadly) extremely niche audience of folks who want smart devices but care about privacy or moddability.

They will not allow it because you will keep using it and won't buy new TVs.

huh, but h.265 is more cpu intensive than h.264

@@arjix8738 I believe the Pi 4 has better hardware support for decoding h265

​@@arjix8738Not with hardware decoding it isn't.

@@Pocket-Calculator well duh, hardware decoding means that the GPU is doing the decoding

@@arjix8738 The Raspberry Pi usually have specific components to decode video. That allows it to decode high resolution video and also use less power than it would it it was decoding via CPU.

What did you work as? Sounds like an interesting job, these TV's fascinate me, so installing/troubleshooting them sounds meaningful

We started building our own totems from cheap LCDs, cheaper, easy to replace the monitor and the computer could be bespoke

I didn't know that, it's handy to know going forward.

If you do this pls record uplod it to youtube

I would love to get ahold of one for my d&d group table.

Yeah I've seen the older ones go for 30€ here as well.

I did that, giant touch screen. Used enormous amounts of power, i got rid of it.

@@Away0G nice. How much?

I have 2. This video might be over my head and I just don't get it. I have a 50 inch dumb tv with a windows 7 PC and pi 3b hooked up. In my kitchen I have a 32 inch ( I am using it right now) with Nvidia Shield box. Both use keyboard and mouse, gamepads. So I just do not understand the hype for this monitor he is showing. Ok mine are not built in, but Velcro or build a bracket behind tv a connect with HDMI. What's the difference?

Both TV's are sceptre TV's. Both remotes work on eather tv

You could accomplish the same thing by simply not connecting your tv to the internet....

@@davefarley4318 a lot of money

@@davefarley4318 thats the catch lol, the only dumb tv nowadays are mediocre displays compared to the rest of the market (its a walmart brand afterall) and dont expect 99% of the actual good displays will come with smart functionality

Aging Wheels is near STL for another good channel. Now if only anyone was from KC

HD Homerun is excellent for this

A pc on a stick running Windows or Linux are plug and play, They work out to be cheaper than the time and hassle of using RPi stuff!

There was this furniture store we had, (we still have it) and it had a commercial that did really well. They had wraparound displays showing all of their commercials in one of their branches after that.

Be prepared to shell out a pretty penny though, they are really expensive...

Just get a smart TV and don't connect to the internet

@@gibbsfreenthalpy There were at least 3-4 options on the sitelink Jeff provided that were 4k resolution under $1000; when you consider that they should last at least 10 years and probably more, it's not that bad -- compared to giving up your freedom and advertising info + your TV is spying on you and using your internet bandwidth

@@kingneutron1 huh, ok, didn't see that, sry. I just roughly know the price we paid, and that was definitely more, even considering that we bought about 50-60 of them...

@@kingneutron1 How's it spying on you if you don't connect it to the internet? This whole concept seems a bit far fetched to me. In terms of value, you're way better off buying a smart TV, leaving it disconnected from the internet, and hooking up a HTPC or Raspberry Pi with internet access.

Yeah; I have noticed some places cheap out, and within months, the TV is washed out or really, really dim (especially if they place it somewhere exposed to sunlight for part of the day). And at that point, since they invested in the setup their using, they just go with it (since the dull image isn't as noticeable if you've just seen it every day a tiny bit less) and don't feel like they could switch to a proper display at some point :(

My last TV, I bought it based on the screen specs because I knew it would get outdated pretty fast. Also refurbished, pretty sure someone didn't like the lack of some smart features

Smaller again as well. A high quality picture in a small format is plenty in many cases. Just consider what most people used to watch this video.

They're perfect for that. And maybe the world's most expensive Raspberry Pi magic mirror :D

lol and... 😭

I don't know haha, but in Malaysia we have a very reliable official store that, i saw, has stocks that are available once a week, 10/20 of them once, but usually comes with package, that sucks, but sometimes i got the pi just with a $10 sd card, It's name is Cytron Technologies

@@kreinova2747 Cytron's pretty cool - they've contacted me in the past, and they have some decent white-label parts too.

still got my hp touchpad (at least thats had more updates/life than my now defunct ipad3) with a gazillion updates/improvements on it and a pre3 collecting dust somewhere.

Samsung TVs use Tizen, which is also open source and actually backed by the Linux Foundation.

SCART?

Haha "Mall traffic was up 7% this month, but nobody bought anything, they were just looking at all our store displays."

On our (not smart and old enough to be cold cathode backlit) tv, some simple commands can be sent between the pi and tv over hdmi-cec. This includes changing the input source to the pi when it boots and play/pause on the tv remote playing and pausing when running kodi. This can be a bit hit and miss and doesn't have many features implemented, so an IR solution might be the best way to go (maybe even a relay on the mains supply of the TV a guaranteed way of restarting it or putting it in a known state). Historically, each major manufacturer has had their own ir protocols and mappings of buttons. The Linux IR drivers have built in learning functionality from a genuine remote, or can use an existing config file someone else has made. I think this is still in the hobbyist realms for now (unless something has changed and I am not up with the times) as too much talk of interfacing devices together will put off those who just want their tvs to work and will make do with the smart tv's foibles instead. For anything commercial, I would think an off the shelf solution like outlined in the video would probably be selected for reliability, time and having someone to call to fix it for you reasons.

You'd be surprised how many TVs have CEC, even if it's not explicitly stated in the manual. I've found many TVs capable of controlling Kodi distributions through the in-built pulse CEC plugin. Most basic buttons, like arrows, OK/Enter and Back work fine for Kodi.

I do this with libreele on a pi. CEC allows the arrow buttons on some TV models' remote to control Kodi as well as turn off the TV or wake the TV from being off on button press, although I normally use a remote connected to rpi via USB (not all of my tvs support CEC and since they're all older I wasn't expecting them to say I bought remotes for all 3).

Could also still be Intel, just running a Linux OS instead of Windows.

It's almost impossible to find non-"smart" TVs on the consumer market these days. The data tracking and advertising increase the profit margin.

@@pseudonym1515 Just leave the TV offline, it cant send data without internet.

Check the links in the description-this model is somewhere around $1500 USD, so I didn't want to focus too much on price, since it's not something the average consumer would probably consider.

@@JeffGeerling I replied to another comment, if you go to the sitelink you provided and sort by price, once you get past the "contact us" junk there are at least 3-4 options for 4K resolution displays under $1k :)

Ah... that would be obvious from the little message that popped up while I was booting the first time :P

And cheaper

The Atom version of those compute modules should run Windows tho