Source 2 vs. Source vs. Beta Source vs. GoldSrc

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0:00 Glass Physics
0:44 NPCs vs. Grenades
1:32 Headcrabs vs. Explosion
2:16 Breaking Crates
2:51 Enemy reaction to grenade
3:39 NPC reaction to friendly taking damage
4:32 Getting up close to enemies
5:12 Body vs. Explosion
5:58 Crates vs. Explosion
6:31 Annoying NPCs
7:19 Barnacle eating
7:58 Huge Explosion
8:30 200 Headcrabs in one place
9:20 Getting shot by 100 enemies at once (LOUD!!)
#HalfLife #HalfLife2 #Valve #HalfLifeAlyx

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@_jurd Рік тому

The game we see in S2 was designed for VR, and the AI was designed to better suit an audience new to VR. The designers likely WANTED AI to not run away from grenades, react slowly, etc. This video was a fun little comparison of features within the hl games (NOT the engine) but does not really encapsulate the motivations behind stylistic choices

@xilefcosasrandom9543 Рік тому

Man this comment is so underrated

@SirCheeseEater Рік тому

If I recall correctly. The devs deliberately dumbed down the AI to prevent the game from being too unfair.

@Bob1997654321 Рік тому

@@SirCheeseEater Yeah, essentially it was because in a normal kb+m game, you can react so much faster because it's easy to move your mouse to aim or maneuver with your keys. Since in VR you have to deal with the inertia of your own body for looking around/aiming with your arms, they made the AI a lot slower so they are actually reasonable to deal with. HL2 or HL1 AI would be really hard to fight in VR because of how much they maneuver and zip around.

@Katvanished Рік тому

afaik, the combine ai is the same that the HL1 grunts use, but they were in a confined space with no room to move for the grenade test either

@Stranger-lz4rv Рік тому

@@SirCheeseEater Try to hit a fast enemy with a grenade when they shoot at you, you have an empty clip, at the same moment your legs, eyes and head from VR hurt, and your vision is also about zero . By the way, I almost forgot, you control your body like a person who had legs sewn on instead of arms, and your strength is like in a dream when you were attacked, good luck in your endeavor!

@arathemacaw Рік тому

S2 reaction to grenades: "Yup. Thats a grenade."

@Ploaper Рік тому

*looks at grenade* *realizes his armor is too heavy to run away fast enough* fuck

@LehySnek Рік тому

Well they have no nodes in that section of the map, infact the whole NPC reaction thing in this video is useless. NPCs are meant to have specific nodes to react.

@engineerbot Рік тому

“Notice the ‘I really wish I wasn’t here right now’ badge.”

@Silver_Swan_MK2 Рік тому

Reminds me one of the british guy saying "Thats a Tank"

@brawlytgamer4995 3 місяці тому

Hey they are too heavy you have seen the metrocops at the start with the made right? They try to throw it away

@azde6909 Рік тому

Grunts in s2 when you throw first grenade: "You think you scared us?"

@VVen0m Рік тому

"Reported." "Reported."

@apfelfreund6859 Рік тому

But overall they seem less.... agile lol

@azde6909 Рік тому

@@apfelfreund6859 well, true. But when you can't escape your fate, what's the point of showing the fear :D (but.. they don't have a sense of fear, right?)

@sharonyoung4277 Рік тому

no, they def goin: oop- im dead.

@trige9873 Рік тому

Uh huh

@fireaza Рік тому

Aw, you missed one of the neatest parts about S2's glass: you can interact with it in ways other than just smashing! You can also grab shards and pull them out of the window frame!

@lasteri Рік тому

man wasnt in VR bruh

@Chonkems Рік тому

@@lasteri he was in the S2 SDK, you can simulate interactions in it. Including grabs.

@thecrusader1673 Рік тому

@@Chonkems damn you really had to kill a man

@Chonkems Рік тому

@@thecrusader1673 I am already wanted in 9 states for Child consumption.

@wrongchannelbud Рік тому

@@Chonkems wait what

@Shy_Abi Рік тому

7:57 The explosion was so huge that it suppressed itself

@kobwmoose Рік тому

9:19 how it feels to be a raid boss in MMOs

@pixelrunner2775 Рік тому

HL1: AAAAAAAHH GRENADE RUNNN!!! HL2 beta: hmmm... Oh theres a grenade i need to run... HL2: hmmm... oh grenade ok let me just *run in the direction of the grenade so i dont have time to get away* HLA: Yup there is a grenade there. **explodes**

@jkeebla Рік тому

it's for balance but it's also kind of realistic? idk

@blackghost9627 Рік тому

i mean combine armor in HL alyx is probably heavier than hl2

@alexisruhl2916 Рік тому

@@blackghost9627 I mean the AI is dumb for balance reasons

@blackghost9627 Рік тому

@@alexisruhl2916 yea this can be a reason too

@festival3051 Рік тому

Only thing I wish is for Gibbing to come back. Loved the gore in gold source. Its a shame you don't even see a drop of blood after a grenade explosion 🔥 🔥

@gimpscam9976 Рік тому

I was just thinking that when I was playing black mesa, it really adds whole new layer of immersion knowing about everything can be demolished into viscera

@verzionhorizon Рік тому

gibs do exist in source but for some reason not in half life Look at tf2 and it’s gibbing

@markosjohns6078 Рік тому

@@verzionhorizon gibs are model based not engine based. Bassically when something gets blown up, the original model will be removed or changed to a different model (gibs) which replaces it. For the decapitation in tf2 like when u kill with the clademore it just shrinks the models head and spawns a head gib

@originalname9789 Рік тому

I think they removed gibbing because it was unrealistic. As well as GoldSrc limitations, stuff like that. Specifically physics.

@fanowar772 Рік тому

@@originalname9789 ah yes because being pushed two feet to left is a much more realistic reaction to a grenade then exploding into a 1000 bits. Perfect logic on valves part.

@codename.ken-z Рік тому

7:19 *THAT SHOULD BE VERY USEFUL*

@Goaty_1 Рік тому

Imagine if Source 2 had the same gore as Half-Life 1. Actually that’s only a couple models of simple gibs, imagine LEFT 4 DEAD 2 GORE with source 2.

@ok-mx1mi Рік тому

well that is the reason it doesnt, it would be way too brutal and almost no computer could run it

@Asuka2077 Рік тому

Refer to Black Mesa and you kinda can picture how would that look

@madeyalook121 Рік тому

@@ok-mx1mi "No computer being able to run it" is false. Half-Life 1 gore is very simple. It's just gibs, it doesnt even have dismemberment, or more performance-heavy gore.

@Goaty_1 Рік тому

@@ok-mx1mi It’s just gibs though.

@ok-mx1mi Рік тому

@@madeyalook121 i agree with this, but i think that it wouldnt look good if it was that simple like in half life 1

@AltayGames Рік тому

9:08 they are so happy

@noclick Рік тому

happy headcrab dance

@DaironBkn Рік тому

0:43 "Did you hear something?" The grenade: Yeah... ME! 💥💥

@whore51 Рік тому

Hl2 beta HAD glass physics implemented. the glass you were shooting at just wasn't breakable.. there's tons of those in retail and hl1 too. the breakable glass in the beta was really similar to gldsrc breaking glass.

@cinnamon4 Рік тому

After he blew up some crates in Beta Source, you could hear a glass breaking sound.

@circleinforthecube5170 5 місяців тому

theres two different types of source glass, breakable blocks, and the big flat pane, when you shoot around the center of the pane the center crumples when its disconnected

@GloxRev Рік тому

3:15 (Gordon Throws a Bomb) Combines: "Let's switch position!"

@Ggamer1234 Рік тому

4:31 Kazotsky Kick

@Cosmic-Bear. Рік тому

I was just watching a comparison between HL2 and HL Alyx because I just felt like it, I go back to the main page and what do I see? An even more in-depth comparison between *4* Half-Lifes! Starting the day off right.

@Mr_Also Рік тому

You mean 4 source engines?

@madeyalook121 Рік тому

@InterGalactic He can either be talking about the expansions, [HL1, OPForce, BShift, Decay], or Half-Life 2, its episodes, and Alyx.

@vibaj16 Рік тому

@@madeyalook121 he's clearly talking about the 4 engines

@olegmoki Рік тому

8:30 They're making sound of radiation detector now

@useruser510uu Місяць тому

Geiger counter

@gabrielandy9272 Рік тому

the problem with this comparassion, is trhat its not exactly comparing the engine its more or less comparing the game and how the devs implemented the features, cause they could have make the npc different in all the engines its not really showing the limitations and limits of each engine.

@akkitdude4823 Рік тому

3:27 grunts were like- *OH SH*

@xylohyt Рік тому

I love how in Source 2 when 1 combine is hit, the rest went to his position and giving him cover

@Darkenbox Рік тому

4:36 M E T A L B A L L S

@JuanGamer0202 Рік тому

I think barneacles eating in goldsr were way more scaryer, bcs he eats only the head, and at every byte you can hear the sound of him crushing the bones cracking and the victim body shaking. When i was younger that scared the fuck out of me

@lambda-m1676 Рік тому

they don't just eat the head, the it's the whole body

@uglies7056 Рік тому

"Do not talk about the beta." -Gasmask Citizen

@KatarinaBohtana Рік тому

"Gong." -Wise Vortigaunt

@uglies7056 Рік тому

@@KatarinaBohtana "Churr.... Long gong." -Wise Vortigaunt 2

@Silver_Swan_MK2 Рік тому

*"TV's FOR EVERYONE"* *"GET YOUR FREE TVs"*

@uglies7056 Рік тому

@@Silver_Swan_MK2 " *WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?* "

@PrivateSchemers1 Рік тому

Everything is so crisp and crunchy about HL1, can't help but miss that in the sequels.

@pyro937280 Рік тому

7:36 the second that Barnacle touched a Combine it turned the whole game into a YTP video

@StuckProcessing Рік тому

"Huge Explosion" recap GoldSRC: Beta Source: Earrape Source: Satisfying explosions (audibly and visually) Source 2: Not as satisfying as Source (ok visually, not satisfying audibly)

@lukabrasi001 Рік тому

the entirety of alyx can be chalked up to being okay visually, but audibly is really weak

@SB-Boi Рік тому

@@lukabrasi001 visually alyx looks amazing idk what your talking about the grenades aren’t as good tho that might be because they aren’t frags

@mistermaris7798 Рік тому

5:18 He almost died.

@noclick Рік тому

he's not in danger, he is the danger

@ftl2528 Рік тому

@@noclick true

@tls559 Рік тому

Wut is this yellow things?

@Diltya09 Рік тому

0:43 is really good part in this video 😂😂

@bluetube8694 8 місяців тому

0:08 "ahh its good to see you" 💀

@Madman-8287 Рік тому

breakable glass was actually in beta source... just not on wall textures like that even in retail. look at e3 seafloor where you drive the car through the window.

@eugenepro1008 Рік тому

Its nice to see that you listen to your subscribers. Because I saw someone requested it and you did. Respect 👍

@bigmac3628 Рік тому

0:45 they do be groovin til 2nd grenade hits em

@DiabolicalSituation Рік тому

I feel like the 7 hour war could had been easily prevented if Gordon didn't murder the whole ass military

@yuniku1489 Рік тому

Nah even if Gordon doesn't kill large amount of military they still lose tho since combine have wayyy better technology advantage over the military

@volatile_gaming9475 Рік тому

@@yuniku1489 it was numbers, not tech they had countless worlds under their rule

@yuniku1489 Рік тому

@@volatile_gaming9475 well still in the end combine still win regardless

@andrejmaletic3906 Рік тому

It was self defence okay?

@KatarinaBohtana Рік тому

"We have annihilated the entire United States Military, Gordon!"

@bakon-bq6dl 3 місяці тому

"did you hear something" *GRENADE EXPLOSION* *wildest dance party ever* i love goldsrc

@THEbural32 6 місяців тому

5:20 dude this scientist open the god mode

@Ghost741SC Рік тому

3:27 They were like: *looks at grenade* Oh.

@Ever288 11 місяців тому

Me sorprende lo bien hecho que esta el GoldSrc, aun después de mas de 20 años, sigue siendo impresionante.

@Cpt_H00K911 7 місяців тому

yo, gold source is awesome in terms of explosions and surrounding reactions to it

@17seven-teen17 8 місяців тому

Source 2 Grenade reactions are like cartoons when they see the grenade they go: Oh, welp i guess im dead!

@tuneingfish678 7 місяців тому

I love how in every single Half Life game you can find a way to annoy NPCs.

@MegaChickenfish Рік тому

10:03 CODE RED! DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOVE, OR WE WILL BE SHOOTING OURSELVES.

@fakesanityab777 7 місяців тому

A little bit of trolling

@RiloTheFox 6 місяців тому

0:59 WATCH OUT!! UH OH

@MoonStudioAnimation 5 місяців тому

beta so goofy 💀

@hideus_ex9222 Рік тому

No amount of lore on the Combine soldiers is going to make them as scary to fight as the HECU grunts.

@italianbmtboi 3 місяці тому

I love how hl1 is so much more detailed than the more advanced games In the series

@souporwormgaming Рік тому

I deeply regret clicking on this video with airpods and my volume at 42.

@cloudedarctrooperdtq3532 Рік тому

Such a shame they didn't re-implement gibbing

@igiczw6315 Рік тому

That feeling when GoldSrc had the best grenade JUST CAUSE OF THE GORE. Like, „Oh no a grenade exploded in my hands! Lemme just fling myself like 3 feet away with not even a scratch or dirt stain on my body, and with no blood or guts, like i just tripped”

@C28_Music Рік тому

You didn’t have to do all the outlandish things at the end… but I’m glad you did, and that your PC didn’t crash.

@fckSashka Рік тому

The difference between Gold Source and Source is incredible considering it’s only a few years apart. Source to Source 2 with almost 20 years in between, not so much. Innovation in gaming slowed down so much since the late 2000s.

@DanielAnderssson Рік тому

Well it depends on how you look at it. The computing power required is a much bigger jump from Source to Source 2, than Gold Source to Source.

@General_Cap Рік тому

Just wait until bci becomes more fleshed out. Gabe Newell himself believes it'll be an industry game changer, although I'm not so sure about a "matrix level of vr simulation" being possible in general.

@Frille512 Рік тому

@@DanielAnderssson Which means games are much harder to run in exchange for very minor improvements

@DanielAnderssson Рік тому

@@Frille512 Alyx is a major improvement to Episode 2.

@Frille512 Рік тому

@@DanielAnderssson I wouldn't know, i can't run it XD

@SuperThales99 4 дні тому

bruh the gore from goldsrc is pure gold... it's so satisfactory to see the blood and guts flying when you blow up someone

@bolthesnaphakker Рік тому

S2 glasses has many other abilities than just being destroyed, comparison was. incompleted NPCS reacting to grenade has nodes issues, test was incorrect Friendlies taking damage - NPCs in HL1 had no target, NPCs in HL2 were missing weapons and target to fight. Test was incorrect Annoying NPCs are scenic scripts and never were actual part of the engine. Except Source Beta

@aRaskyl Рік тому

GoldSrc: gore galore! Source: did you notice the physics engine? Source2: the gravity is 10 times stronger on this planet.

@Sven-ql3ch Рік тому

there were glass physics in beta source, its the ting that you just tested it on a window that is indestructable

@HoovyGaming 7 місяців тому

source 2 AI when theres a live grenade next to them: huh, i guess i'll die

@datbo1728 6 місяців тому

8:56 reminded me of that video of the guy opening a spider egg in his hand

@ItzaLukkeri Рік тому

I like how interesting these situations are

@L3G514 2 місяці тому

3:32 the way he just looks at it, and accepts his fate

@kuzan2064 2 місяці тому

Interesting and funny investigation!

@j99044 9 місяців тому

How do you get your hands on beta source

@mar2ck_ Місяць тому

The glass physics in source 2 is even better in VR because you can pull the shards out or punch the glass.

@ChimeraGilbert Рік тому

>Annoying NPCs >Didn't showcase poking Russel's face to annoy him

@danielbedrossian5986 4 місяці тому

Interestingly the Source huge (barrel explosion) looks better, by the way they explode a bit delayed and spred than the Source 2. What are those firefly like things around spawned in NPCs in Gold source?

@stefanschuchardt5734 3 місяці тому

Yeah barrel explosion is a downgrade. As cool hl alyx is, I have the feeling, that it lost some of the hl2 magic.

@alexhl1hl2 3 місяці тому

0:17 Most likely because there is no such glass on the maps, if in Hammer Editor you spawned such glass that has physics, it would most likely work

@charliewonder1812 Рік тому

Love the model of Saul Goodman as Gman

@fakesanityab777 7 місяців тому

Why the crates explode when you break them in hla

@HADZAB_LEGEND_21 Рік тому

7:14 omg! It looks like it real!

@Dootsauce Рік тому

10:25 SO FUNNY LMFAO THE WAY THEY STARE AT THE GRENADE

@auditor5715 Рік тому

The beta glass triggered me. That texture doesnt break in retail too. And on the technical part, hl2 retail glass is in the beta, but is not used cause its just unnecessary details. Both hl2 beta and hl2 have the same glass. And both of them use hl1 type of glass, to save on resources.

@xenoblade1068 Рік тому

I love the fact that source 2 combine look at the grenade then look at you like " oh shit "

@alifeinanimation Місяць тому

I like how npc’s actually group up if a friendly takes damage in S2

@user-vw3lh7kf8z Місяць тому

It's funny how the S2 combine just look down at the grenade and then look back up at the player. It's like they know they're dead.

@Disco_Eterno Рік тому

3:26 WTF, this reaction

@Mihacappy Рік тому

GoldSrc has the best gibs of them all. Because others don't have them at all!

@TDadoRBX Рік тому

90s games could get away with a lot of things mostly gore

@verzionhorizon Рік тому

I wonder why half life has none while TF2 has really good gibs

@Argoon1981 Рік тому

@@verzionhorizon Different target audience perhaps? The TF2 art style is also cartoonish so the gibs don't look to "realistic" and they let those pass.

@Argoon1981 Рік тому

@@TDadoRBX Not only gore but also eroticism. And that is why they were immensely more fun and varied.

@edgarallanpoe8045 Рік тому

Dismembered bodies were really cool in HL1

@cacalala4587 Рік тому

These situations got from reasonable to test to just like, what

@realjeff Рік тому

I miss the GIBS by killimg enemies with explosion it was fun

@Argoon1981 Рік тому

Indeed unfortunately the ESRB (Entertainment Software Rating Board) decided for you that human gibs aren't fun.

@farizmi747 Рік тому

8:23 click that for star wars gun sound

@ItsMeBS114 Місяць тому

3:27 that wall hammer was like “uh oh”

@garlicohen960 Рік тому

I sincerely appreciate their effort to make it smoother and smoother, but man, I miss the good old gibbing...

@nutzeeer Рік тому

I like walking through damaged source 1 glass. sounds nice.

@huntermorgan6177 Рік тому

Do you think they took out the gore for rating reasons or because it was distracting?

@itdobelikedattho8112 Рік тому

It looked way too cartoony so they got rid of that shit

@pixelrunner2775 Рік тому

I think they put it in because HL1 was supposed to be a horror game (its plot was partly inspired by a Steven King novel), so it was there partly for the plot. HL2 was supposed to be more of a dystopian-scifi-action-movie-like game and big frequent explosions of blood and guts are probably a little too distracting from the plot. I am not entirely sure though but it seems logical

@Argoon1981 Рік тому

IMO Ratings. The game was already rated mature 17+ and with human Gibs they would certainly have reached Adult Only or R rating and that was something Valve just didn't wanted, at lest at the time of HL2, it would seriously effect their sales. Now, why they stick with no human gibs for HL:A, when they just don't care about money anymore, (if they did they wouldn't make the game VR only) is anyone guess, perhaps force of habit or the dev's themselves are anti human gibs now? But HL2 has some monster gibs, only not human based gibs.

@swaggerdagger00 Рік тому

0:26 you forgot the func_breakable one

@xidcuzyes 6 місяців тому

You just lied! There is Beta Source glass breaking. It was implemented on map d2_prison_06 from HL2BETA 2003. Maybe there is another encouters of breaking glass, but this one is the only I do remember.

@sitaroartworks 4 місяці тому

Source 2 physics is stunning, the glass improved but is generally heavier due to post processing graphics.

@PentaSquares Рік тому

Combine in HL:A dying to an enemy that isn't even attacking them

@kilerek3 Рік тому

i miss so much gibs from goldsrc :c they should do mix ragdolls + gibs

@Left4Coochie Рік тому

source is goated. source 2 has a lot of way to go with different games

@jojojo5145 Рік тому

I can tell a genre Source 2 is going to DEMOLISH when it's more publically available and the spaghetti is less messier. It has a lot to do with moaning.