Thanks for you kind comment :) I am happy you found it usefull😊

I am very happy to hear 😊 thanks for the comment 😊

Appreciate it 😊

Hope your kick-up improved as a result if that 😊

Appreciate it brother 😊

I definitely agree with this 😊 Ensuring a straight kicking leg will hugely improve reproducibility and it will also give you more momentum in your kick 👍 and yes, flexibility (both forwards fold as well as shoulder mobility) has a role in making this easier - just found the hip up cue to be a simple way of it over complicating this 😅

Well, I don’t think the point should to bend 1st leg, or to have an over split for that matter. Bending the leg will only introduce another unnecessary variable in my opinion. I also think your analysis of my kick-up as “planching” is incorrect (unless you are talking about some of the clips I refer to as being an inefficient kick-up). If you look closely, I am actually doing the opposite - slightly over flexing in order for my leg to stay straight. It is true however, that beginners is likely to not be able to do this either, but may require as you say “over splitting” in order for hips to stay above shoulder and hands. I think small details like this is better if figured out on an individual level as it depends on level of flexibility and strength. So instead of saying that one way is better than the other regarding the planching vs over flexing and splitting straight leg vs bent leg, I think it makes more sense to just focus on getting that hip over the shoulders and hands, as that is what’s most important. My main two points regarding the actual kick was 1) to get hips over hands and shoulders and 2) to create balance before closing legs - not necessarily because it is easier due to the lower centre of gravity caused by the split, but because rushing the second leg usually causes inconsistency in terms of the momentum created when this motion is dynamic.

@@Sondre_Berg That’s the best counter point actually, but you actually have to bend that leg anyway on the way up to have an efficient swing on the entry- you did it every time as well; see 6:19, 6:27, or any other entry. It’s not a mistake that your body does this even though you’re clearly intentionally straightening the leg after.

 The physics is pretty simple too- by straightening that leg, rather than letting it bend, you move weight backwards towards the heel of the hand, and we know handstands have to balance, which means that weight has to move forward elsewhere to cancel it ‘overflexing’ or opening the shoulders too much would do the opposite, and would exaggerate the fall rather than counterbalance it.

 That said, after taking a screenshot of your handstand vs my handstand, it seems like ‘stacked shoulders’ for me has always meant the center of the shoulder is stacked vertically over the base of the wrist- which creates a more mechanically efficient load on the shoulder, vs for you, you center the shoulder over the center of the hand, which, while less mechanically efficient, allows for better lines and more capacity for rebalancing by opening the shoulders. Relative to that standard ‘center’, when I actually go frame by frame, you basically settled into that same position even when you the split.
 
I agree that people should find their own style here, and that getting the hips over the hands is the most important thing, but I think you and I would both agree that there are some things that are bigger details worth paying attention to, and I believe whether or not you bend that leg on the entry and the split overall is one of them. 

I also think that people should start their handstand work in the split, (not freestanding of course at first) since it’s easier to balance in the split (especially with that leg bent) and since you should hit it first anyway for proper kick-up technique, but that’s mostly a separate issue ;). 

Anyway, it’s been a long time since I’ve learned something having a handstand argument with someone, especially with such good counterpoints. We should connect- I sent you an email! :)

Thank you 😊 Hope your kick up saw some improvement since then

That should definitely help 😊 Let me know how it works out 💪

I am planning on doing videos on both these topics 😊 thanks for suggestions 👍

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Because it’s harder

Try to warm up your wrists.

Yes, you find the link in the description 😊

Basically, squeeze your but

@Mun damn lmao such a nice answer

I agree 100%

Glad it was helpful!😊

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