STRAVA Global Heatmap Updates: New and Improved? Not Exactly.....

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Shane Miller - GPLama

Shane Miller - GPLama

3 місяці тому

Flying under the radar this week was a major layout and usability change that Strava rolled out to their Global Heatmap page. The previous 'Strava Labs' version was undoubtedly in need of a refresh, maybe with a little more polish than what has landed.
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@erlendursmari
@erlendursmari 3 місяці тому
I just tested this and could not reproduce any of these problems. I could zoom out to the entire globe, I could scroll east and west as much as I wanted including east from NZ to the US, and I could easily see rides I've done in places I've only seldom visited.
@erlendursmari
@erlendursmari 3 місяці тому
Latest Firefox on latest Windows 10, if that makes any difference.
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
Well that didn't take them long to address! Thanks for the update! Those two items are working now in Chrome too. (Why they rolled it out as it was shown here in the video is beyond me....).
@roddyeskew3909
@roddyeskew3909 3 місяці тому
I'm seriously amazed how they managed to make one of their best-working features significantly worse then decided to push it out anyway.
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
Haha! Yeah. We can see they’re trying to improve it in some areas, in others it comes up a little short.
@sentralsix
@sentralsix 3 місяці тому
That's classic Strava for you.
@pmcmpc
@pmcmpc 3 місяці тому
They've done that with virtually everything they updated in the last 2-3 years. It's an absolute mess.
@dmitry.gashko
@dmitry.gashko 3 місяці тому
I'm a developer. Saved this video - will show it to the marketing staff when they would try to push something to early :)
@LukeGJPotter
@LukeGJPotter 3 місяці тому
Shane, we appreciate your service in beta testing all types production software.
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
Beta testing production software. I like what you did there. 🤣👌🏼
@m3lonbr3ad
@m3lonbr3ad 3 місяці тому
I want to see some sort of filtering between a bicycle commute and a bicycle workout. Would be useful given that planning routes based on those categories are generally vastly different goals.
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
Road, MTB, gravel filtering too!
@bigdarbs19
@bigdarbs19 3 місяці тому
It does, you can toggle commutes on and off.
@Mike_in_Thailand
@Mike_in_Thailand 3 місяці тому
@@bigdarbs19 only if you are a paid subscriber. The toggle is under personal heatmaps, which you have to pay for.
@marcofabiano8672
@marcofabiano8672 3 місяці тому
Hello Shane, some time ago you made a video about Steava with your suggestions of features. I would really like to see the following things: 1. virtual races are races! I would like to be able to mark them as races again! This feature was just killed by Strava about 2 years ago I think. 2. a way to "sort" the activities on the dashboard into groups for favourites, friends, pros, virtual active, commuters, runners, virtual races, real races, ecc. Best regards and Ride On! Marco
@Connorsza
@Connorsza 3 місяці тому
I use heat maps everywhere I go to plan safe routes. This new update has really effected my ability to do that, and honestly I don't trust it to make routes in its current state. WOW!
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
Surely they'll push out a few refinements to this VERY soon. It's unquestionably bad. I can see what they've attempted... but... argh.
@neon3690
@neon3690 3 місяці тому
Heatmaps are great for OpenStreetMaps edits.
@Xhadp
@Xhadp 3 місяці тому
Quite sad that this is the only place where dark mode exists on the entire site. At least its still there but now made it even harder to use? Can't even extend to anything else Strava? Not even the segments map has that option. One major standout thing I am noticing with this update is road names!!! It is finally here and on all maps! It wasn't there for me when I was using the segment feature to find local areas to ride in before but now it is in there, don't know if it was because of this update or recent but that is a major improvement! This going to make it a lot less cumbersome and have less cross-referencing with regular map applications so that is a major plus since you aren't just going to a segment located on X Road when you've also got to take A B and C roads to get to it. The location names/markers is also nice and seems to capture the important details of parks, public utilities(parking, restrooms, water station, bike stations etc.) coffee stops. The water boundaries are also more clearly highlighted if that is your forte or even elevation peaks (that is somehow hard coded listed as meters mind you) if that interests you. I am honestly impressed the extra mile was taken into consideration for this, only thing I'd recommend here is to make it dynamic instead of being hard coded into the map itself so that it can be quick-linked to a website or having seasonal features being updated like if a restroom is closed for a season or changing elevation from meters to feet. At least the painting scroll captures Hawaii in the far left side, not doing a roller-style scroll for a world map is travesty enough but excluding Hawaii from the US or NZ from AUS would have been baffling on top of that. Hey, good first start hopefully there is some additional refinement coming to it afterwards with Strava's momentum with their increase in updates. Wouldn't mind seeing the other maps on the site get some love as well like the segments page, making Watopia a dedicated map instead of defaulting to 0,0 on activities and making the entire site be dark mode compatible! Using inverted colors or a smart dark mode application doesn't work for Strava.
@lexington476
@lexington476 3 місяці тому
2:18 this is beta testing, llama you're the beta tester 😊. Somewhere, in a Strava conference room the day after this video is posted the Strava Developers streaming your video and taking notes 😄.
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
hahah! I suspect that's the case. To their credit, the team at Strava take all this feedback well and continue to communicate with me on a regular basis. They know I love the service (mostly) and I always want to see them kick ass. When they do, I'll also share that ass kicking goodness. If only more companies were like this... 😅
@MrMattie725
@MrMattie725 3 місяці тому
Maybe we cycle too much or commute to much by bike, but the heatmap is useless in Flanders. There seem to be two 'heats'; local neighbourhood no one passes through and every other road. A major, busy road with a horrible bicycle path has the same heat as a car free, wide and popular bicycle path next to a river or channal. Seems to me like they need to rescale things or add extra levels for really popular paths. For example: currently the max density might be 50 rides per day, whilst many actual good segments will have hundreds.
@miomafia93
@miomafia93 3 місяці тому
Switch to "dark" map style and "orange" personal heatmap color. Helps a lot with visibility. Honestly, I preferred the options open to the side. Desktops are a different size and orientation compared to a mobile phone - seems like the two versions should be designed differently with that in mind. It was convenient to toggle options instead of accessing another menu. Using the dropdown at the top of the screen adds an extra step and separates it from the map style options by *miles* (in terms of screen location). It feels like sliding from Australia to the US.
@WowRixter
@WowRixter 3 місяці тому
Strava is really doing some dumb things *don't get me started on the idiotic Motivational notices that are constantly popping up, and yet ignoring the major feature requests people have been asking for for years (like Dark-Mode)
@ppotz
@ppotz 3 місяці тому
Here’s a suggestion: better route management. The ability to sort routes by geographic affinity, distance, elevation, frequency of use would be great. Right now, it’s just a bucket of routes that you have to root around in.
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
100% with you on that.
@KeithRobertson57
@KeithRobertson57 3 місяці тому
This has been requested many times, for many years 🤨
@stibra101
@stibra101 3 місяці тому
RideWithGPS is space technology compared to Strava in routes and heatmaps
@Jarek.
@Jarek. 3 місяці тому
I'm truly disappointed where Strava is allocating their (apparently very limited) development resources. Coming back to Heatmap changes - on my 4k screen in full Zoom-Out I can see whole Africa, most of Asia and Australia. So apparently this is not a hard limit but some problem with dynamic scaling boundaries being calculated incorrectly.
@rrosomasa
@rrosomasa 3 місяці тому
SUGGESTION: if you haven't already, should make a video about managing multiple bikes on garmin/strava, but also on devices like Edge/Bolt recently got an additional bike, and went on a black hole figuring that out.
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
For Strava equipment assignment/etc check out ActivityFix: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gWmQhHeiqpmj0WQ.html
@DwayneBlew
@DwayneBlew 3 місяці тому
My biggest problem with Strava maps and using Strava for creating routes is the lack of easily readable road information, specifically, what type of roads I'm looking at. I still mostly use ridewithgps to plan my routes since it uses OSM maps (with a bunch of other map types available). With Strava, the paved roads are white and very minor and/or non-paved grey, but it becomes a guessing game as to the type of road and how much traffic the road will likely have. Some of the best paved roads in my area are thin little grey lines on the Strava map that you'd never see unless you zoom super close in. Makes the mapping and routing fairly useless, at least to me. Strava, give me the option of OSM maps in your UI, or at least color code the roads a bit.
@smshing_lee
@smshing_lee 3 місяці тому
Wait there are heat maps with Hammerhead?
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
Here's all the details: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/cJGUe4p9e6F0kYE.html
@smshing_lee
@smshing_lee 3 місяці тому
@@gplama thank you!
@saintuk70
@saintuk70 3 місяці тому
That's just awful! As a GIS person, how on Earth did Strava manage to pass this out without giving it to a mapping pro before launch.
@lexington476
@lexington476 3 місяці тому
1:04 see I knew it I knew it, the world does end. but I actually thought it was supposed to end to the west not to the east, oh well details 😀😃🙂.
@jamesmckenzie3532
@jamesmckenzie3532 3 місяці тому
This is almost usable. Sadly, it will have areas restricted or even removed from view.
@tesserwithpaul
@tesserwithpaul 2 місяці тому
The biggest loss to me is that you used to be able to scroll out and a numeric number would appear over the areas you've run more than once. it helped me tally the amount of runs I've done locally and showed globally all the places I've run. It was one of my favorite features of any map full stop. I was quite proud of it. Now I don't know why I would bother to show anyone. It is a real loss.
@Zyzzyx42
@Zyzzyx42 3 місяці тому
"gplama, he really whips Strava's ass".
@galenkehler
@galenkehler 3 місяці тому
They limited the outward zoom to placate the majority of Strava users being flatearthers 😂
@landixus
@landixus 3 місяці тому
I love to create my own routes all of the world and ride them virtual. thats get me back to strava premium, i am so manipulable. :(
@thisstuschannel
@thisstuschannel 3 місяці тому
At least Zwift routes still show 🤦‍♂️
@chrisfenet
@chrisfenet 3 місяці тому
Can't go to the US from Australia cause the world is flat?? hahaha JK
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles 3 місяці тому
Jeez what are they using all the money for? Do they even use their own product?
@collectivesartori
@collectivesartori 3 місяці тому
So…. A bunch of changes and they’ve made things worse.
@walcottav
@walcottav 3 місяці тому
🤦
@MiataBRG
@MiataBRG 3 місяці тому
I don't actually understand what this video is saying. I get that you're unhappy but you don't explain what the issue is. What's the issue when you are clicking backwards and forwards around the colour options? What's opacity in this context? I've used strava since about 2013 but have never used this function! 🤷
@gplama
@gplama 3 місяці тому
I think I was pretty clear? Zooming out won't even show the entire country of Australia. It used to show the entire 'globe'. Scrolling left or right used to be like spinning a globe by hand, it'd loop around. Now it doesn't. The visual markings of where I'd recorded an activity used to be easy to see. Not they're not. Here's my coverage of Global Heatmaps less than a month ago showing how it was: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/nXViZaR_popml2w.html
@sim999
@sim999 3 місяці тому
They make the same crap like mobile :). Mobile was horrible, now web also horrible
@ZephyrLopezCervilla
@ZephyrLopezCervilla 3 місяці тому
Strava's latest messgrade.
@ConstantRider
@ConstantRider 3 місяці тому
Meh, still not worth the sub money....
@Bigjuergo
@Bigjuergo 3 місяці тому
strava will die soon same as ironman brand
@bathsalts1st
@bathsalts1st 3 місяці тому
Strava is in Beta, i mean still in. :P
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