Seeking immortality: Aubrey de Grey at TEDxSalford

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Cambridge researcher Aubrey de Grey argues that aging is merely a disease -- and a curable one at that. Humans age in seven basic ways, he says, all of which can be averted. Aubrey claims he has drawn a roadmap to defeat biological aging. He provocatively proposes that the first human beings who will live to 1,000 years old have already been born. With his astonishingly long beard, wiry frame and penchant for bold and cutting proclamations, de Grey is a magnet for controversy. A computer scientist, self-taught biogerontologist and researcher, he has co-authored journal articles with some of the most respected scientists in the field.
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@JFMeakerII
@JFMeakerII 9 років тому
I'm going to live forever, or die trying. There is no limit to the things I would do for the ability to be alive in a billion years. Its tragic that i may die having never seen even a fraction of a percent of all the infinite wonder there is in the universe, simply because my body and mind are programmed to fall apart after awhile.
@CalumnMcAulay
@CalumnMcAulay 9 років тому
I echo that!
@XtoCee
@XtoCee 8 років тому
Good luck, if you're still 'trying'.
@XtoCee
@XtoCee 8 років тому
***** It's more wicked to be ignorant than educated.
@derkevevin
@derkevevin 8 років тому
+Magmafox Wood hehe. well curiosity is called "Neugierde" in German, which literally translates into "new-greed" the greed of new(things). but dont worry, its not like he is taking anything away. its like reading an exciting book, you can pass it to someone else, and he can enjoy it too.
@brnsndr2000
@brnsndr2000 8 років тому
Are you me?
@KevinForfar
@KevinForfar 2 роки тому
We are living in an era in which immortality is within the grasp of many people living today. Those who live long enough to see the singularity in 2045 will see an explosion in anti-aging technology. Remember, technological progress is exponential, not linear. Though we see very little in terms of anti-aging today, you can be sure that it will soon sky-rocket. It's an exciting time to be alive.
@bikkens
@bikkens 8 років тому
my only hope is this guy
@utube9749
@utube9749 2 роки тому
Dude u still there, right? It's only been 5years since your comment
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 2 роки тому
Hello? A comment like that sounds like depression.
@ismaeelmahmood7259
@ismaeelmahmood7259 2 роки тому
Hey, just checking in. You ok?
@Ab-abovetheFirmament
@Ab-abovetheFirmament 2 роки тому
My only hope is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
@shadrachemmanuel1720
@shadrachemmanuel1720 Рік тому
​@@Ab-abovetheFirmament My only hope is Robinhood.
@waterrrr
@waterrrr 9 років тому
All those people passionately against this and shouting that you shouldn't tamper with nature.. It's going to be really funny when those people are 90 and someone holds a cocktail in front of them that'll make them 20 again. That's the moment we'll witness hypocricy on a mass scale.
@notahandle965
@notahandle965 8 років тому
I'm going to take a screenshot of this just in case so I can show off to all the people at the elderly care center
@dejureclaims8214
@dejureclaims8214 8 років тому
+waterrrr We've gotten so good at accepting death and disease we've come to see them as fundamental to the meaning and pleasure of life...
@waterrrr
@waterrrr 8 років тому
***** I'll believe you when rejuvination is right in front of your 90 year old face and you'll say "nah, I want to keep my fundament to the meaning and pleasure of life".
@dejureclaims8214
@dejureclaims8214 8 років тому
waterrrr I should have clarified that I wasn't referring to myself, but humanity in general.
@jessicaroberts2282
@jessicaroberts2282 8 років тому
Well said my friend ;) well said.
@joes2735
@joes2735 10 років тому
Been following this guy for awhile. He really needs more exposure.
@solvinghealth
@solvinghealth 4 роки тому
Ok now his ideas are mainstream. Great Job Aubrey!!
@datguy3581
@datguy3581 4 роки тому
More people should focus on this. He’s right. Life doesn’t have to end.
@bloodymirpoutin3825
@bloodymirpoutin3825 3 роки тому
Life doesn't really end.. Only your body ends.
@tai222
@tai222 3 роки тому
@@bloodymirpoutin3825, if you're a lunatic and believe in the afterlife.
@conversascontroversas7384
@conversascontroversas7384 3 роки тому
Death doesnt make any sense
@kaininjathundermmandopoke5167
@kaininjathundermmandopoke5167 2 роки тому
@@bloodymirpoutin3825 stop body forever.
@jeremyanderson6789
@jeremyanderson6789 2 роки тому
@@bloodymirpoutin3825 I don’t want my body to end in real life.
@Countplato
@Countplato 7 місяців тому
I'll be 62, October 2023. I went back to school in 2010 to do graduate work in Gerontology. I WISH I could have seen Dr. Aubrey de Grey speak, but never have. I think this guy is brilliant. I was hired (at USC) to work on the tail end of a 40+ year longitudinal study on Alzheimer's (a tragic cognitive disease). I was responsible for cognitive testing (and some gofer work being new in the field at 49 - lol). This guy is my hero as I've always had a fascination for longevity and immortality. I wrote a successful memoir in 2022 called "Alive After Dying" (not about life after death) and will be releasing book 1 of a sci-fi trilogy incorporating some of Dr. de Grey's theories called "Her Immortal Menagerie" literally this weekend. I would never have thought about releasing it if it hadn't been for this amazing man.
@Ideaman47
@Ideaman47 8 років тому
To those who haven't understand. Immortality is possible within our lifetime. All we need is more resources put to work on this.
@donovan3956
@donovan3956 3 роки тому
Maybe we will be able to overcome aging before the end of the century ...
@tfootball8704
@tfootball8704 Рік тому
Immortality is impossible
@Emp158
@Emp158 Рік тому
@@tfootball8704 yup
@seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414
@seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414 Рік тому
​@@Emp158 living for longer isn't
@Countplato
@Countplato 7 місяців тому
@@Emp158 what if you could play football forever?
@qones3574
@qones3574 8 років тому
Even if I don't want to donate to SENS, I realized that donating to any med research org actually speeds up how fast viable treatments are discovered
@ekaterinavalinakova2643
@ekaterinavalinakova2643 8 років тому
Have been a big fan of Aubrey de grey and his SENS organization. Death from aging is something I hope fewer or fewer of us will die from. In the future, hopefully death by aging will be an optional thing. Those that embrace aging are welcome to die from it, that's your choice, and we will respect your choice. But the rest of us will choose to transcend aging. As we age, our risks of developing cancer, and dementia such as Alzheimer disease increase exponentially. I for one would not want myself nor any other person to be subjected to such cruelty.
@ekaterinavalinakova2643
@ekaterinavalinakova2643 8 років тому
For those who are interested in helping aubrey de grey, you can donate to www.sens.org/ They've made scientific progress and still could use more donations =)
@ekaterinavalinakova2643
@ekaterinavalinakova2643 8 років тому
Usad Rebs I don't think you understand me or the transhumanist movement. If you look at people who consider themselves transhumanists, they are generally liberal left, or libertarian right. Generally Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul type supporters. We generally oppose over reach of government and of course would condemn any form of genocide or forcible moving of individuals. You seem to be saying that we will treat you just as the Europeans will treat the native Americans. This is not the case. We want everyone to be free, in fact this is the one basis of the transhumanist movement: to be freer from things like pathology from aging. Empathy will never be obsolete, it encourages understanding to how others feel and invites us to be friendly individuals. If I had the ability to reprogram myself, infact I would reprogram out anger and hatred and even increase my capacity for empathy. Another thing: Where are you getting this idea that we will not respect your choice? Hornestly we really don't care whether or not you choose to upgrade your body or not nor will we support committing war crimes or CAH such as forcible moving of people in the way you describe.
@tentenleeneji8602
@tentenleeneji8602 8 років тому
Valentinia Kladimironova Just to say, if white people become immortal, your end is coming even quicker than you can imagine. You are evil and corrupt, you seek immortality yet you cannot forgive anyone? Even this Usad Rebs realize that your people cannot be content with just immortality, you will always want money, power, greed, hatred.
@ekaterinavalinakova2643
@ekaterinavalinakova2643 8 років тому
Kevic Vaughn What the fuck are you talking about? When did I say I don't forgive people? You know NOTHING about me. Read my bloody comment. NOTHING implies corruption. I believe everyone should have right to access radical life extension and freedom from suffering. You are a Racist hateful bigot. Also I'm Chinese, not white.
@ekaterinavalinakova2643
@ekaterinavalinakova2643 8 років тому
First of all, transhumanists are not part of the "elite". None of us are congressmen or lobbyists. I can tell you as someone who regularly talks to individuals who identify as "transhumanists", that they are not narcissistic. The likes of David Pierce, Aubrey De Grey, and many friends do really want to eradicate suffering to the world. They really are interested in saving many lives, and not just their own. As Aubrey stated, aging causes a lot of suffering and kills 100,000 lives every single day. Many of us, such as Machine Intelligence Research Institute are also quite concerned with potential abuse of advanced AI and are researching safeguards for such tech. Our goals are not purely about saving the self, it's about saving as many individuals as possible from involuntary death, and reducing involuntary suffering.
@tonyreno3168
@tonyreno3168 9 років тому
Always great to see SENS continuing to progress. A lot of people are going to look back decades from now and be very thankful to Aubrey de Grey. We're still at that stage of life where the majority of people are still under a state of learned denial. I call them aging deniers. They deny that aging is the number 1 problem facing humanity. And yet this is so mathematically obvious it requires redefinition of words in order to keep the denial up. People redefine "Natural" to mean good, instead of the state of nature without any human intervention. Human intervention can be bad, but it can also be good. Reversing aging is a good intervention in the same way that putting up mosquito nets to conquer malaria is a good intervention. People redefine "Population" to me problem, instead of the number of people alive. No person is a problem unless they are incapable of caring for themselves in a sustainable fashion. It turns out that there are only 2 groups of people who can't care for themselves sustainably. Those who haven't been trained well enough to do it, and those who aren't healthy enough to do it. What will happen, once aging maintenance is solved, is that the proportion of people are aren't healthy enough to do it will be an ever diminishing percentage, and with the additional health, the proportion of people not trained enough to do it will also be an ever diminishing percentage, and the world will be getter. Between SENS and the NIA's research into the mechanisms of aging, the spend on anti-aging research is ridiculously small. I am so glad SENS is there to make help it work and hope people start getting the message more over time. This is a real solution to the biggest problem facing the world today. And it i the best solution we've yet seen.
@elletts
@elletts 9 років тому
Tony Reno A lot of people are going to look back decades from now and be very thankful to Aubrey de White. :P
@megalodon7916
@megalodon7916 9 років тому
You think aging is the number 1 problem facing humanity? That Population won't be a problem? Ha! How naive, how childish. You claim to occupy the intellectual high ground without fully grasping the bigger picture. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.
@tonyreno3168
@tonyreno3168 9 років тому
Megalodon I have seen how it is sold to everyone that population is a "Problem" on late night ads for aid to developing countries. They always show pictures of war torn areas with backward governments and crazy dictators and say, "See, Population is a time bomb." This, of course, is not some new theory. It goes back to Thomas Malthus the late 18th century when the world population was 1 billion and the prediction was that it couldn't sustain 1.5 billion. What all of the "Population, oh my!" people keep failing to understand is that people are not just born with mouths to feed. They are also born with hands to work and minds to invent. Let's suppose "Population" were the issue everyone says it is. Then what do you think would be a more expensive place to buy land, Tombstone Arizona, or New York, New York? "Population" is not an issue. But lets say that it was an issue. Then let's do a study and find out what are the factors that have the biggest mathematical impact on population? Is it A. Number of children per couple? B. How soon child bearing begins? C. Age at death? It turns out that this is the mathematical order of importance. A is far more important than B. B is far more important than C. The effect of A is a high geometric effect. The effect of B is a low geometric effect. The effect of C is a low linear effect. But put the math books aside and actually do the research. Go around the world and find where the population growth is that greatest. You will find that you can list the roughly 200 countries of the world. And you can compare their population growth rates (through birth, not immigration) against their life expectancy. From what you are saying, the longest lived populations should be the fastest growing. In fact it is the exact opposite. It is the shortest lived populations that are the fastest growing, and many western countries with very long life spans have populations that are stable or nearly shrinking, but for the immigration coming from the rapid growth in parts of the world with the lowest longevity. I understand that intuition is misleading here. People think the big deal is insuring the death rate continues, but the age of death is way way down the list, and is, surprisingly, a counter-indicator of population growth rate. How can this be? It's simple. The long people live, the more they delay having their first children. In short-lived countries women are having children in their teens, and having 4 or more children. In long lived countries women are waiting till their mid twenties and having, on average, just over 2 children, and that average is dropping over time (as more women choose to now have children, or to just have 1). What causes trouble in the world is not the number of people, but how those people live. If they live intelligently, the carrying capacity of the world is far higher than it is now. And in the process, the total wealth of the world enables technologies that are not now possible, including oceanic habitats, underground building, and even space elevator technology to vastly reduce the cost of building in space using materials mined in space. But even without those advances, there is no imminent population crunch from people not dying. The added health and working lives of people would create such a boom in the ability to do massive development projects that earth could easily house 10 times it's current population. And as the birth rate drops below 2, the growth curve reaches a curve that doesn't leap up boundlessly, but reaches a maximum point. "Population?" Behind that fear is the concept that there will be no new farmers, or no new technologies. But our technology is at the infancy. We are just barely starting to learn how chemistry and biochemistry works. We cannot yet make meat from sunlight and air, but we should be able to, because that is exactly what plants and animals, working together do. The plants use sunlight to turn Carbon Dioxide, water and a handful of trace minerals into food. The animals turn that food into meat. People think we are advanced now, but within 3 decades we'll have mastered all of that. People are already 3D printing meat now that was not grown on an animal. If you look at history, we have the lowest percentage of starving people ever in history. And if you ignored war torn areas that percentage would be vanishingly small. And this is despite the fact that we have 7 times what the earth had the first time we were worried about population killing us. Everyone who looks at population with fear doesn't understand how far we are from the limits of technology, and doesn't appreciate how having more people helps technology advance faster. You'd think after over 200 years of seeing this work people would figure it out by now, but they don't. They, like you, are too naive to do the research.
@FrostbitexP
@FrostbitexP 9 років тому
Megalodon Whats worse, near 200,000 people dying every day? Or over population. Id probably pick over population. Which is also preventable if we do it right. Stopping aging, and stopping over population will be a win win.
@shawngregory5879
@shawngregory5879 9 років тому
ImCrazy intertestingly, you have just described the bibles over all plan for the future... interesting
@TheTasteOfBeerYOOO
@TheTasteOfBeerYOOO 9 років тому
so excited to live forever.
@moderntrappings9196
@moderntrappings9196 8 років тому
Aubrey is incredible; we should all make sure his foundation succeeds asap!
@youtubia701
@youtubia701 9 років тому
people are cynical, keep calm and carry on Dr Aubrey !
@WaffleWaffles
@WaffleWaffles 9 років тому
I don't get the cynics. Wouldn't life be amazing if we didn't have fear of being old and crippled, knowing that there's plenty of time to do all the things we ever wanted to do.
@rickwyant
@rickwyant 9 років тому
Waffle Waffles the fact of the matter is most people are wasting their lives away anyway... you'd just have more time to waste that's all...do the things you want to do , even if you lived 1000 years you'd still never do EVERYTHING....
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 4 роки тому
Aubrey is far more laid back now, because the industry has exploded. Investors with more cash than his entire nonprofit has are coming to him to ask where the money should go and founding companies to research that one thing. The industry founded around SENS principles has ballooned into a billion-dollar one now in 2019.
@williamjamesmoriarty9628
@williamjamesmoriarty9628 2 роки тому
@@squamish4244your resources to your claims? where did you get it ? is that even legit ? just asking.
@RobinKaczmarczyk
@RobinKaczmarczyk 10 років тому
Epic beard. Epic speech.
@anuragdeshpande4915
@anuragdeshpande4915 2 роки тому
You have epic beard too
@itscrazyson
@itscrazyson 9 років тому
i don't want to be immortal, i just want to live long enough to experience space travel and witness the existence of other races in the universe than i can go to sleep for good
@WaffleWaffles
@WaffleWaffles 9 років тому
They'll always be something extra to live for, something more to explore or wait for, you'll always be left wondering what comes next and to stay around and see it... Well I know I would anyway.
@itscrazyson
@itscrazyson 9 років тому
Possibly but I can't imagine what it could be right now
@itscrazyson
@itscrazyson 9 років тому
*****​ you have a good point my friend.
@scahsaint6249
@scahsaint6249 9 років тому
***** Anime, Marvel movies, DC movies, The cosmic collisions, death of stars, exploration of deep space, space warp, star trek style travel throughout the Universe. Virtually perfect fantasy worlds with full experience as reality. It's almost endless.
@scahsaint6249
@scahsaint6249 9 років тому
***** I'm just asking for virtual reality of Final fantasy, Kingdom hearts, Monster hunter, Dark souls, Witcher. I love rpg games in general, they have so much depth and beautiful worlds. However, i'm also a scientist at heart so i'll be looking forward towards new physics, chemistry, biology manipulations. One of ths most exciting prospect for me is AI.
@DihelsonMendonca
@DihelsonMendonca 8 років тому
Give me the RIGHT to live 500 years and at that point I will decide if I want more or not. At least, give me the chance to decide !
@geordirendum583
@geordirendum583 8 років тому
+Dihelson Mendonca exactly
@PauloConstantino167
@PauloConstantino167 8 років тому
We don't need 500 years. Time is relative. What we need is a good fair society that doesn't exploit the individual by forcing them to work their whole lives like slaves.
@enmarcheverslesclavagemode1399
@enmarcheverslesclavagemode1399 8 років тому
+Constantino Fine Art I think we need both actually.
@PauloConstantino167
@PauloConstantino167 8 років тому
Thinking better about this, I think you're right. 500 years would be great for curious, intelligent people. I've always wanted to study all areas of science and always thought my time is limited.
@MrWatchowtnow
@MrWatchowtnow 7 років тому
You cant have it , too bad.....
@neutrinocoffee1151
@neutrinocoffee1151 8 років тому
Such an important talk. Not enough people have seen this. In a better world, this would have as many views as Gangnam Style!
@randomquestion7592
@randomquestion7592 8 років тому
+neutrinocoffee I agree with ya.
@istaxationtheft7460
@istaxationtheft7460 8 років тому
*Would you rather:* Live forever or have 1 child (per person, two per family). You decide when you're 25 and if you choose to live forever you are sterilised to prevent breeding (you can still have sex).You can still die through accident, murder etc.
@unknnnnn9060
@unknnnnn9060 8 років тому
+Gordon Skyler would rather burn in hell forever than die. If I get to live forever and not burn in hell no matter what my existence is like - I will be happy.. But then may be I just think that because I am currently mortal. Most people who are poor think they will be happy if they are millionaires. But when they become millionaires they realize it is not the case.
@istaxationtheft7460
@istaxationtheft7460 8 років тому
Happiness doesn't increase past $75,000 USD per year. True fact. So money can bring more happiness but it peaks at 75k.
@unknnnnn9060
@unknnnnn9060 8 років тому
Gordon Skyler Hear that? Millionaires! Please give me all your money that exceed your $75,000 USD a year happiness cap! Thank you.
@waterrrr
@waterrrr 8 років тому
I already wasn't planning on having children anyway. Overrated stuff. I prefer cats. It's a good question though, because that might actually become the trade when this anti-aging tech comes out.
@unknnnnn9060
@unknnnnn9060 8 років тому
waterrrr There is a much simpler solution - freeze the people who want children until there is a need for new people. Some kind of cryogenic sleep. If we have immortality tech, then surely we have suspended animation tech.
@criscacrisca6594
@criscacrisca6594 4 роки тому
love the quality & thumbs up
@sammyl2349
@sammyl2349 9 років тому
I would love to be immortal. But we were born mortal. So how do we change all that? Well, listening to Aubrey de Grey might just give us some answers. Actually, we already have medicine and treatments to slow the aging process. What if we had a treatment to temporarily unite someone with their physical youth? In other words, make them young again? Wouldn't that be fascinating?
@solvinghealth
@solvinghealth 4 роки тому
That's the point indeed! The goal.
@MaestroStefanoPetrini
@MaestroStefanoPetrini 3 роки тому
WE DON T HAVE ANYTHING
@samantharutherford8699
@samantharutherford8699 2 роки тому
What's that medicines that reverse aging?
@Legionario186
@Legionario186 9 років тому
good job. Aubrey. Go further with this research. People like you, we need. Greetings
@fortalfreefire599
@fortalfreefire599 3 роки тому
was entertained !! thanks for sharing
@amynigella747
@amynigella747 4 роки тому
Enjoyed this, keep them coming . +1
@CrankRiders
@CrankRiders 4 роки тому
Hope to see more good videos like that ! nice job
@CalmingVibes
@CalmingVibes 4 роки тому
love the quality epic!
@faizakhan7208
@faizakhan7208 4 роки тому
worth the watch & I’m glad I found you
@whoever_81
@whoever_81 6 років тому
Give this man an Oscar and a Nobel at the same time, with Lord of the Rings soundtrack playing in the background. Heads will turn and tears will fall.
@paulpatton41
@paulpatton41 7 років тому
So the question is, when we may be only decades away from a cure for aging, why are we wasting so much on war when we are underfunding this? What could possibly be more important than curing a deadly disorder that all of us have?
@merlinious01
@merlinious01 5 років тому
That other guy is brown though. He keeps trying to live next to me! THE GAYS!
@socute750
@socute750 3 роки тому
We need to fund many thing because we dont know what might come out of different science areas. All science areas are related and are accelerating thanks to each other. For example, internet helped us learn and share new things much faster than before which helps science etc
@coopergates9680
@coopergates9680 2 роки тому
'MURICA and its nationalism. At least a number of people here don't think like that
@juegos-xrt6911
@juegos-xrt6911 3 роки тому
kept me entertained for a bit .. thanks for this
@user-uz1rv2oe3b
@user-uz1rv2oe3b 3 роки тому
This was really spectacular , good job
@flame7487
@flame7487 8 років тому
#supportSENSfoundation we need to move this hashtag through the youtuber's channel to incourage people to donate!..
@C4nadian
@C4nadian 9 років тому
Gandalf DeGrey.
@orionbassmaster666
@orionbassmaster666 9 років тому
loool close enough
@jodytomes9366
@jodytomes9366 3 роки тому
sweet adding to favs
@STRVNGE
@STRVNGE 4 роки тому
ill watch more later !! keep it up
@abecore
@abecore 9 років тому
It's a shame that Aubrey's time on the stage is limited and consequently, this presentation comes off as too rushed. From a scientific perspective, cell-maintenance is a very viable and realistic proposition. Our societal structure has implemented in the majority's minds that aging is a perfectly acceptable phenomenon but realistically, it's a phenomenon that we have become conditioned to because everyone watching these videos grew up with age-related deaths around us. Think of the wisdom that our species can acquire through a lifespan of 500-1000 years or more. The knowledge, the innovation, the memories, the accomplishments. The universe is a vast terrain and curing aging along with equally ambitious projects such as space colonization can give rise to unlimited possibilities to our species. I marvel at the fact that I am alive and conscious in a time where such innovative ideas are being talked about as a possibility. Here's to immortality, infinite wisdom and unlimited potential for exploration. Here's to Science!
@Countplato
@Countplato 7 місяців тому
I'll be 62, October 2023. I went back to school in 2010 to do graduate work in Gerontology. I WISH I could have seen Dr. Aubrey de Grey speak, but never have. I think this guy is brilliant. I was hired (at USC) to work on the tail end of a 40+ year longitudinal study on Alzheimer's (a tragic cognitive disease). I was responsible for cognitive testing (and some gofer work being new in the field at 49 - lol). This guy is my hero as I've always had a fascination for longevity and immortality. I wrote a successful memoir in 2022 called "Alive After Dying" (not about life after death) and will be releasing book 1 of a sci-fi trilogy incorporating some of Dr. de Grey's theories called "Her Immortal Menagerie" literally this weekend. I would never have thought about releasing it if it hadn't been for this amazing man. He's younger than I am. He just turned 60 on April 20th. He was born in 1963. He delights in looking old. lol
@Takeo1813
@Takeo1813 9 років тому
Anyone wonders how long he will grow his beard if he was immortal?
@raunaklanjewar677
@raunaklanjewar677 3 роки тому
Mind blown
@shreyaskashi7922
@shreyaskashi7922 2 роки тому
He reminds me of Rasputin
@artanpayam1688
@artanpayam1688 4 роки тому
rocking it . good job
@ahmadalhallak8437
@ahmadalhallak8437 4 роки тому
deserves more likes and top quality
@lazygamerz
@lazygamerz 10 років тому
Imagine the world when we can say "Did you hear the last person to die of cardiovascular disease, if he ate like one piece of bacon less or walked a mile longer in his life, he/she would perhaps have been here today, what an idiot".
@ardashirsasan3864
@ardashirsasan3864 7 років тому
Living forever is every human being's wish and I personally would love to live for not just millions but billions. The only problem is that living forever and human reproduction can't go together. If one is allowed then the other should be banned.
@CrankRiders
@CrankRiders 3 роки тому
This was really spectacular and good vid
@raimundoferroni3382
@raimundoferroni3382 4 роки тому
worth the watch & thumbs up
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 9 років тому
I think it's pretty clear that the Beard is calling the shots here.
@WaffleWaffles
@WaffleWaffles 9 років тому
I was focusing so much on what he was saying that after about 30 seconds I didn't notice the beard anymore
@MrEmpireBuilder0000
@MrEmpireBuilder0000 9 років тому
People always ask the wrong questions. To me, the question should be: DO YOU want to live forever? Because you're not being forced to. And I suspect, the majority of people (especially religious people) will be content to just live out their 80 years and meet their God. But those few who do want to learn to play more musical instruments, read more books, or be able to travel in space and reach Neptune while still young, would be interested in this. Don't worry about overpopulation. although I suspect that some years along some religious people will begin to envy the long lived people and will think... "Why not? AFter all, God has forever to wait up there. What's the rush?" And this drug will be expensive so only the most dedicated people will want to spend money on it. :) The best part is the earliest beneficiaries to this might be our pet cats and dogs. And that's definitely a huge plus. How would you like your best friend to live as long as yourself? :)
@dredericktotem1245
@dredericktotem1245 9 років тому
My favourite 2 🐱🐱 are already dead 😭
@jessmondtenio7172
@jessmondtenio7172 3 роки тому
This was really spectacular ;) good video
@dfggdfdgfdgfgdfgfd1567
@dfggdfdgfdgfgdfgfd1567 3 роки тому
Talented, very talanted even !! thanks for sharing
@GSPxRUSH
@GSPxRUSH 9 років тому
Don't really wanna be immortal I just think a life span for about 250-300 is long enough to truly understand what we wanted from life and long enough to peacefully accept death
@TechnoMinarchistBall
@TechnoMinarchistBall 8 років тому
GSPxRUSH Then all you'd have to do when they perfect the process is decide to stop taking the treatments after a number of years and die naturally.
@hedgehogthesonic3181
@hedgehogthesonic3181 4 роки тому
Just found this old comment, i was harsh, shame on me.
@darkilustrisimus
@darkilustrisimus 10 років тому
Where do you see yourself in 200 years?
@nuttygeezer830
@nuttygeezer830 10 років тому
Immortal
@rebeccadaniel2560
@rebeccadaniel2560 5 років тому
in New Zealand :)
@damianbolek8643
@damianbolek8643 4 роки тому
on the Mars drinking beer with Elon.
@danielchang8704
@danielchang8704 3 роки тому
That could legitimately be the “where do you see yourself in 30years?” question kids get in 2050
@Abd.Allaah
@Abd.Allaah 3 роки тому
Playing football in another galaxy.
@kimchigerbil7437
@kimchigerbil7437 8 років тому
Fascinating!
@xxsickboyx6849
@xxsickboyx6849 3 роки тому
quite innovative .. thumbs up
@davidpereira9058
@davidpereira9058 4 роки тому
How far have we come since this was filmed? Would be interesting to see progress since then.
@Countplato
@Countplato 7 місяців тому
read my current post.
@Uedukai
@Uedukai 10 років тому
Great Speech
@JanKowalski-du7dl
@JanKowalski-du7dl 3 роки тому
Omg this is awesome . nice Work
@kurniawanfandywijaya3760
@kurniawanfandywijaya3760 3 роки тому
Omg this is awesome nice Work
@johnnytight1869
@johnnytight1869 6 років тому
What career can I pick that does research into preventing death. Would bio engineering be good?
@hedgehogthesonic3181
@hedgehogthesonic3181 4 роки тому
Most likely, Bio engineering or Biotechnology i think.
@jonathansmith8344
@jonathansmith8344 8 років тому
I'm just here cause I want to learn how I could live long enough to experience the full-dive VR technology seen in SAO
@M0B1US
@M0B1US 8 років тому
Jonathan Smith the MitoSENS project is being crowdfunded at lifespan(dot)io
@jonathansmith8344
@jonathansmith8344 8 років тому
Portable PlatypusDotCom Thanks, you just blessed me with the gift of immortality.. that's kinda cool
@MKhidlir
@MKhidlir 8 років тому
Jonathan Smith Hi Jonathan, maybe this is for you: Live longer, healthier, more stamina even at old ripe age, healthy skin, more wealth...and more importantly, more time for ourselves, our beloved ones and last but not least...more time to care for other people, helping people's lives.....yess, I guess most of you will agree with me. But the big question is HOW are we going to do that? It seems only a dream that can be reached by wealthy people. It is true-yesterday! However with fast growing technology, internet and good people, this is possible and even for average people like myself .... This resveratrol is maybe one of the answers available on earth right now among other things. It helps many people with diabetic problem, some cancer diseases, neural problems, fertility, et cetera. How is this possible? The answer perhaps lays that this resveratrol is solving the root cause of the problem. It cures and fixes or repairs on cell level. CMIIW. It happens to my mother's friend anyway. How am I get to this resveratrol thing? This is possible by one product that is patented called RESERVE by Jeunesse company. The product is kind of edible gel with patented special packaging and also is Halal. You can see the product in uncle google or here www.gandaria.jeunesseglobal.com Hope by sharing this and my franchise online store, I could help many people changing their lives for the better , live healthier or even better make them a millionaire (a part from resveratrol, Jeunesse is having an e-commerce business platform with global dropshipping and network marketing pattern that is possible to make the business grow fast). It is my dream to make 1000 millionaire in 2020 and see people lives in healthier, wealthier, happier, respect and loving and peaceful world.
@jonathansmith8344
@jonathansmith8344 8 років тому
*****​ evidently you haven't watched Sword Art Online
@jonathansmith8344
@jonathansmith8344 8 років тому
***** My point still stands...
@autographsale5044
@autographsale5044 4 роки тому
rocking it . awesome btw
@littlebratty4672
@littlebratty4672 4 роки тому
think i'll subscribe !! top quality
@stayhungry7166
@stayhungry7166 7 років тому
If you think this is great, donate money to SENS foundation don't just sit there and write "cool stuff". Any amount helps you know.
@JamesSkuzz
@JamesSkuzz 7 років тому
Can you link me a link to the website please
@Mortebianca
@Mortebianca 7 років тому
Actually studies show that SENS is not having any actual progress in clinical or theoretical fields, they are basically stuck (look it on Wikipedia). Don't donate on things that are not showing promising result just because they promise stuff that are kinda appealing (like...Eternal Life today and easy?)
@derkevevin
@derkevevin 7 років тому
wat? source? And he didn't say "today" he said in the next few decades. Of course it will take a while to get results and a working therapy, especially if they DON'T get enough support. Also he said (in another talk or interview) that these therapies, in the start, will not give you an indefinite lifespan, but rather an extension of 20 years, or 50 years (I don't exactly remember numbers he said), which will give us more time to wait for improvements with further extensions of the lifespan and so on, until we have the real thing. This is why Aubrey de Grey believes that the first person to live to being a thousand years old is already alive today.
@Spore0011
@Spore0011 7 років тому
Mortebianca Wikipedia is nice.. but it's know where near being a definitive source because its being written by people who are biased in todays paradigms. and not the next 20yrs of potential breakthrus. the lot of them follow the way things are "right now". and in the mental capacity of "oh its at 1 percent so it'll take forever." I don't think its a viable source of citing how really close these technologies are since it wont be able to measure the wave for these technologies.
@Mortebianca
@Mortebianca 7 років тому
Quantum Sky "Wikipedia is biased when it criticizes my favourite ideology" The Internet, 2017.
@whoneedsguyswhenyouhavecat7681
@whoneedsguyswhenyouhavecat7681 6 років тому
I wish I was born in the era of immortality..😭
@sagearias969
@sagearias969 4 роки тому
You may have been.
@sagearias969
@sagearias969 3 роки тому
@JESUS CHRIST for a guy named jesus christ you're awfully pessimistic
@rohitraysho6317
@rohitraysho6317 3 роки тому
may be this era will become era of immortality we will soon discover therapy to stop ageing .I am also working on same .
@sergiarts
@sergiarts 2 роки тому
no need to wish, you have, give it a few decades
@samantharutherford8699
@samantharutherford8699 2 роки тому
@@rohitraysho6317 bro what did you pursue?
@amarbangla1835
@amarbangla1835 3 роки тому
I can't believe you dont have more subscribers 10/10
@pow3768
@pow3768 4 роки тому
kept me entertained for a bit . thumbs up
@nicksteve5392
@nicksteve5392 6 років тому
He opened his talk by dissing Ted, and then the audience. Thug life lol
@chrisjernigan1912
@chrisjernigan1912 9 років тому
Ironic that a guy talking about curing aging looks like Father Time.
@WaffleWaffles
@WaffleWaffles 9 років тому
Great video, not many would pass up on the chance of extending their lives and improving their health in old age.
@_Qutie_
@_Qutie_ 9 років тому
Waffle Waffles Yeah, many people will say that they don't care about dying but when they get older, I bet a lot of them will quickly change their mind.
@WaffleWaffles
@WaffleWaffles 9 років тому
Ryan Carter True, I guess it depends how tired of life they are, personality and life experience must be a factor
@samsujit8644
@samsujit8644 10 місяців тому
Gives a lot of relief
@astolfo9377
@astolfo9377 8 років тому
Come on people! #supportSENSfoundation
@dragonrage500
@dragonrage500 9 років тому
look guys. don't wanna sound stupid or anything but isn't the whole point of lack of resources and everything because people ONLY live so many years and therefor arn't really planning long term?? if suddenly humans can double or pretty much live forever.(not really seeing as EVERYTHING ends eventually) but knowing they have a greater expanse of time to live wouldn't their planning change to encompass that then? also as for money. there are literally dozens of ways to make money. some are TIME CONSUMING though. but if you have hundreds-thousands of years, taking time to make money is no longer that big a deal is it? letting money sit in the bank and gather interest would take a LONG time. but if you have the time and can keep adding to the amount in the bank eventually you hit a point where you could live off the interest right? as for limited resources. if(when, maybe) humanity gains some kinda psuedo-immortality, won't there become certain rules, limitations set? also on the point of criminals. somehow I do not think people would waste whatever resource it is to make humanity immortal on people who are gonna serve life sentences anyway(imagine then it would be 2 or 3 life sentences) but then why not just say you spend the next 160 years in jail barring good behavior :/ no i don't think they would make criminals immortal(and that is IF the damn concept can EVER actually become a reality) and besides. there will be plenty of religious nuts and fanatics saying we shouldn't. the answer is simple then. you don't HAVE to. but some things should be made to continue on. especially those who could HELP(people who could use this amount of time to better humanity, or who could teach future generations of things they will NEED.)
@WaffleWaffles
@WaffleWaffles 9 років тому
So much knowledge and experience is lost after we've spent a lifetime of learning, if the world had fewer people but those fewer people lived 2 or 3 times longer then the world would be a far more knowledgeable and wise place. Currently by the time you are mature in understanding of people and the world, and you can really start to appreciate life, your body starts letting you down.
@DadimasKitchen
@DadimasKitchen 4 роки тому
now thats how a video is done ;) top quality
@inspire_me4394
@inspire_me4394 4 роки тому
Omg this is awesome & awesome btw
@Th3EpicGamer
@Th3EpicGamer 9 років тому
I seek immortality.
@blazrakinvlazrakin1203
@blazrakinvlazrakin1203 9 років тому
I believe we can achieve immortality in the next decades its only money that stops us from achieving unimaginable feats I sure hope I can contribute one day cause I'm 14
@M0B1US
@M0B1US 8 років тому
Blazrakin Vlazrakin You can still raise awareness and convince others to donate.
@samelsmore8171
@samelsmore8171 Рік тому
A noble cause, I wish I was wealthier would give so much to his foundation!
@lion-xu2yb
@lion-xu2yb Рік тому
Same here
@carlosmartinez-mb7vr
@carlosmartinez-mb7vr 4 роки тому
might subscribe & keep it up
@Gabe62046
@Gabe62046 8 років тому
Let the Christians go to heaven. Will stir up some things Gandalf
@sethhuff1755
@sethhuff1755 7 років тому
Omg, best joke ever!
@MrWatchowtnow
@MrWatchowtnow 7 років тому
zombie drone
@rebeccadaniel2560
@rebeccadaniel2560 5 років тому
I'm a Christian and I want to be immortal on earth. Go to Heaven after meeting God He can drive me to Heaven
@tai222
@tai222 3 роки тому
@@rebeccadaniel2560, a Christian that acknowledges that living indefinitely is not a bad thing.
@coopergates9680
@coopergates9680 2 роки тому
@@rebeccadaniel2560 Wait, hold up. I know there are cool things on Earth, but if you really do spend forever on it, there are an *unfathomable* number of star systems to miss out on. It only takes a few minutes of flying around in SpaceEngine to come to terms with the scale. Also, our sun isn't one of the more stable or long lived stars, it might need to be stripped down to a red dwarf and planets moved nearer or some other trick down the road, and stellar remnants or sub-stars such as brown dwarfs could be superior hosts to main sequence stars. They will most likely be around after all the main sequence stars burn up.
@sethhuff1755
@sethhuff1755 7 років тому
When this becomes a thing, I'm going to call myself The Doctor.
@danialderakhshan9549
@danialderakhshan9549 3 роки тому
wow !! 10/10
@WhispersOfWind
@WhispersOfWind 8 років тому
*Interesting,* all of it.
@taihungau8696
@taihungau8696 9 років тому
No wonder we don't already have the wonder drug... based on the 20k views on such an important topic I dare say nobody even cares about not dying...
@MrEmpireBuilder0000
@MrEmpireBuilder0000 9 років тому
They all think they're gonna go to heaven, that's why. I, for one, want to be among the first generation to get this treatment. Plenty of things to do and lots of places to visit.
@user-cc4kq6hl4c
@user-cc4kq6hl4c 9 років тому
MrRobertGulabo count me in, i think its not enough to live for 60-70 years
@incorectulpolitic
@incorectulpolitic 4 роки тому
@@MrEmpireBuilder0000 actually you WILL get the opportunity, but you will have to sell your soul to the beast.. Jesus offers you immortality for free, the beast wants your soul.. choose wisely
@solvinghealth
@solvinghealth 4 роки тому
So true and SAD.....
@MannyJazzcats
@MannyJazzcats 4 роки тому
@@incorectulpolitic prove it. I think I'd rather trust science, not that I want to live forever if you are never freed from your body you can't become enlightened
@lex3729
@lex3729 9 років тому
Wasn't he the vow of silence hermit in "Life of Brian"?
@igorfilipe7596
@igorfilipe7596 4 роки тому
cool !!
@lordragnarok4603
@lordragnarok4603 3 роки тому
random for me but watched adding to favs
@jacobmcdermott1707
@jacobmcdermott1707 7 років тому
He is already immortal with that wizard beard.
@r0llingst0ned
@r0llingst0ned 9 років тому
His beard is immortal.
@BobbyMcGivney
@BobbyMcGivney 9 років тому
Looks familiar!
@frisk2320
@frisk2320 3 роки тому
Was interesting & 9/10
@jamesleranearthistrollingi6010
@jamesleranearthistrollingi6010 9 років тому
Very good research on advantage and disadvantages on immorality!!!
@howbigisyourlove
@howbigisyourlove 9 років тому
who will get these therapies.. money is not really a good predictor of who should live longer .. sad and true.. money will control who gets to live longer and unfortunately these are not always the most valuable in the species to grant more time on this planet to but they will get the pass to stay longer first.
@Nebukanezzer
@Nebukanezzer 5 років тому
Anybody who can get chemo, insulin, or antibiotics, obviously.
@dmana3172
@dmana3172 8 років тому
Awesome video! Also, I think Aubrey de Grey will live over 120 and be this young! :)
@sebastianpye9328
@sebastianpye9328 8 років тому
+dmana3172 He is actually already 200! :)
@Countplato
@Countplato 7 місяців тому
@@sebastianpye9328 lol. He actually just turned 60 in 2023. He delights in looking old on purpose.
@hedgehogthesonic3181
@hedgehogthesonic3181 7 років тому
Amazing
@hedgehogthesonic3181
@hedgehogthesonic3181 7 років тому
OceanWho Sure, i'm joined, my name is Son!c :)
@eboganado1711
@eboganado1711 3 роки тому
quite innovative and likes +1
@leepybear3444
@leepybear3444 10 років тому
damn...I'm going to be dunking on people at the age of 130. You heard it here first.
@NikolaosSkordilis
@NikolaosSkordilis 9 років тому
De Grey cherry picked the aging costs, unfortunately, to prove his point; and a man like him is certainly knowledgeable enough to be able to recognize and avoid a fallacy like that, a fallacy loved by sly politicians. Yes, aging related diseases cost a lot of money, that's unquestionable. But what about the pension money, planetary resources, environmental impact, CO2 etc etc spared by the pensioners' deaths? What would the total former cost be in relation to the total latter costs if the mean life expectancy skyrocketed to 120 years, on a planet of 7+ billion people? Don't get me wrong, I am all for a 150 year life expectancy or even immortality. But it would destroy us if we achieved that before having the means to escape our planet. If that happens while we are still trapped on Earth, before being able to start colonizing space, it would be an open invitation for a full blown WW3. Later on, the remaining survivors can forget any dream of conquering space for at least 100 years, while "living" on a planetary hell. If this research goes head to head with colonization specific space expeditions, I am all for it, but assessing it independently of our space efforts is meaningless at best, very dangerous at worst.
@Mehdital89
@Mehdital89 9 років тому
The economic necessity will force the solution to show up. But if Ray Kurzweil is right, all we would need at the end of this decaded is energy, nothing else. The singularity is near!!
@DarthQueefious
@DarthQueefious 9 років тому
Escaping the planet wouldn't be needed. The same technology needed to do this 'age maintenance' would also help us to minimise the ill effects of overpopulation.
@Kansyn
@Kansyn 9 років тому
Thank god for SpaceX.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 9 років тому
We don't really have a choice. We KNOW there is a huge demographic catastrophe presented by the aging of the Baby Boomers, and the rest is less well known and lies farther in the future, even if only a few decades.
@warewolf435
@warewolf435 9 років тому
Nikolaos Skordilis I know this was two months ago, but they said we would all die of starvation if our population kept expanding. We kept expanding, and we're doing just fine (relatively speaking). I'm not trying to be a dick, but humans have shown time and time again that we can overcome any problem when we get a swift kick in the ass to get us working on it.
@aaronclayton2888
@aaronclayton2888 9 років тому
i believe the way you fight ageing is, through being creative in your mind, like doing tapestries or draw pictures writing poems quotes and stories, not worrying about dying because you come back to do it again anyway, i like his integrity to try and look at ageing as a disease, but there is no such thing as death anyway, you get reborn as someone else, and if you look after yourself in this life, you will be given a fresh young look in the next life, so my motto is PARTY PARTY PARTY, ok
@lastnameford7703
@lastnameford7703 5 років тому
THE MAN We will get There hopefully sooner than later
@S3aCa1mRa1n
@S3aCa1mRa1n 9 років тому
Too bad we can't be like the immortal jellyfish.
@rodneycarvalho6052
@rodneycarvalho6052 9 років тому
We are all immortal spirits and as such, we will live for ever; but not within a body, but free from it. I wouldn't like to live for ever in the flesh and confined to a body made of flesh and bones.
@rodneycarvalho6052
@rodneycarvalho6052 9 років тому
***** You are still too young to understand that concept, eventually you will be able to see it. God bless you.
@rodneycarvalho6052
@rodneycarvalho6052 9 років тому
A spirit is a non matter, no form, but pure energy, emaneted from the Divine, out of love, created simple and ignorant, with endless oportunity to exist for ever, it will never die, it has no sex, it only can evolve, learn and grow, when it is incarnated in a physical organic body, if it chooses not to incarnate, it will not learn and become what it is meant to be; a divine being like its creator. As evolution takes its course in the universe, the same way is our spirit. It is it that actually gives the body its life with function and not simple electricity runing in our brains. Remember, the Creator of this whole universe, also created Spiritual, Moral, Physical and Moral Laws; if we break one of them, we will have to return (reincarnation) to earth to expiate our errs. The Creator is all LOVE. If you wish to learn more, get the Spirits Book by Allan Kardec
@rodneycarvalho6052
@rodneycarvalho6052 9 років тому
My Spirit was created from a Particle of the Divine's own Spirit, as anyone else's were; the ones you are referring to are detectable energies from a 3 or more dimensional universe or universes. Some argue that we are billions of years old, and that we have lived in other solar systems or galaxies before, and that the Spirituality or Guide Spirits/Entities or God, whatever way one wants to call IT?? That this whole thing was engineered by a superior Force. Since at the present moment we can not understand and grasp it in its entire infinity. It was given to us another opportunity of a life time, to make it right, to grow and evolve as Spiritual Beings in the Agape Love, as we are meant to be; anything else out of Love brings suffering. I am not sure if I answered your question.
@rodneycarvalho6052
@rodneycarvalho6052 9 років тому
***** I am not an expert on this subject, in fact I am very new on this. As I mentioned before about Allan kardec books (19th C French Scientist and French language pedagogical expert, lived in Paris), if you look him up you will come across several books written by him (some are fully translated from the original French language to Portuguese/English/Spanish/German and other languages), he is considered the Spiritualist Teaching Codifier. Also, several books have been psycho-graphically-written by mediums all over the world, specifically in Brazil. To explain exactly how sometime we have this "Knowledge", I would have to open up my life as a book on this platform, and I don't want to do that. I would like to say that I do believe in science, but I strongly believe that there are a spiritual world out there or in here right now, beyond science, eventually Quantum-physics will explain Spirituality.
@rodneycarvalho6052
@rodneycarvalho6052 9 років тому
I am talking about medium-ship with all their abilities. Scientists are not looking into that. They would have to transcend science. I am talking about spiritual things that can only be understood spiritually. You are trying to rationalize what is spiritual with science. That is why I suggested you to read about it in those books. No one can define this subject in few words in a blog like this one. To have knowledge is to read and to be able to read things between the lines by opening our minds to what Spirituality is trying to show us. I've had experiences with what is Spiritual for many years, in fact, I was born in a environment where mostly people believe in it. As i said, I am not an expert, I am a student, but I can not deny the Spiritual Realm, at this point in my life it is impossible.
@FirstAidKite
@FirstAidKite 4 роки тому
well entertaining , awesome btw
@armagananteplioglu9031
@armagananteplioglu9031 6 років тому
Can we please not get ahead of ourselves? The talk was about increasing longevity through maintaining the body. Grey himself doesnt say at the end of this process people will be immortal. In fact, he was talking about how this kind of approach against age-related health issues are getting more effective, better, wide spread etc. Most times, passing time in science, while brings new oppurtunities and benefits, brings also new problems. We just dont know how it will go down and everybody talking about immortality. These efforts will extend human life significantly on the long run, in the same way antibiotics extended average life expectancy. But even in our wildest dreams there will be disintegration, decay and death for all things when we compare anything with "eternity".
@Meshwork123
@Meshwork123 7 років тому
It disturbs me that some people like de Grey think that humans beings are something special, that our species has a right, in nature, to have some kind of entitlement to immortality. In reality, in the material world, we have an equal status in nature with all other life forms; and like them, we are bound by the continuum of biological changes. Still, our species is fortunate. We live considerably longer than most other species. But to suggest that we must find a way to become immortal is a waste of our valuable time. It is no more a possibility than trying to avoid ever having to sleep, or to eat or drink. As for the mystery of death, it is not mysterious at all. Whatever your date of birth was, the time prior to that date will be the same beyond when you die. We didn't miss being alive when we weren't alive, and we won't miss it after we're gone. Why would you worry about death, then, when you're alive, since you can only worry about it when you're alive - not when you're dead.
@sethhuff1755
@sethhuff1755 7 років тому
But being alive is what gives us the fear of death. The unknown factor of what comes next. And if this is our only chance to ever experience life, why waste it? And why not make it longer to get the most out of it? When I say this,, I mean it for every person. Every person is important. There will only be one me and there will never be another one. Life is important and no one is to say that we don't deserve to live longer than other animals. It's just that we are intelligent enough to value life and think abstract. A cat will never truly understand its own life and even if there was something after death, wouldn't even notice.
@Meshwork123
@Meshwork123 7 років тому
+X- Wolf Thanks for your reply here. In respect to your first point: it's irrational to fear not being alive when you are alive, since you cannot fear death when you are not living. Consciousness equates to life, not death. You never could fear death when you had not yet been born because there was no you, no consciousness; the same non-fear will occur after you die, where there will be no consciousness and hence no fear. Your second point: my response is that we're wasting our time worrying about death and the fear of it when it's inevitable - and this can be blended in with my first response above. Your third point: yes, every person is important, to themselves and to those who value them - but not to the material world. Your life is no more important to the material world than is a single cell microbe, or an arctic penguin. After all, all species, not only each individual or each "important" person, will eventually become extinct. You cannot fight nature. The last point of yours: we are indeed intelligent enough to value life, yes, but this can be instinctual, too - like the cockroach that tries to hide on your kitchen bench top when it's sighted. As for the cat, well, if you own one, please keep in mind that you don't actually own it. The cat owns you. ; - ) Finally, I do agree that we can become mindful of taking better care of ourselves through education. Having said that, most people struggle with work and very low real wages that makes them time poor. Finding time to devote oneself to home cooked meals and exercise, then, becomes difficult. de Grey would not have to concern himself with these problems as he's wealthy, which would give him a different perception of reality. Certainly, if de Grey shows, however, that he can cater for everyone, that we can have healthy ageing for everybody, without exception, then I'd be sold. But, in reality, most people on this planet go to bed hungry every night, and that in itself is evermore the immediate problem.
@sethhuff1755
@sethhuff1755 7 років тому
+Meshwork123 In the end though, it's not about wether we deserve it or not. There is no one to set those boundaries or say wrong from right. But it is something that humans want and are going to go nonstop at the idea. That's just human nature. Any living being with abstract thought and high intelligence would think the same. Because we value this one chance way to much to waste it and not give it our all to keep living, so that when the time comes that something amazing happens, we don't miss it.
@sethhuff1755
@sethhuff1755 7 років тому
+Meshwork123 What if this could give every person in the world a chance? No more deaths from diseases, no more waste. If you have watched Doctor Who Rings of Akhatan, you would understand why it is such a waste to create life and not enjoy the most of it, and that this could prevent early deaths.
@Meshwork123
@Meshwork123 7 років тому
+X- Wolf You seem to misunderstand many of my points as I've detailed above. I cannot be anymore explicit. We humans are nothing special, and all of us, even inanimate objects, are bound by the laws of nature in a material world. What you or de Grey wants carries no weight. Our species will cease to exist, as we will, as individuals. Evolution relies on the nitrogen cycle. Evolution is why you and I are here. Evolution dictates your destiny. Just be thankful that our species has not completed its evolution (unlike the shark and crocodile which don't for example get cancer); we haven't been here long, so there's plenty of evolutionary potential left - if we don't destroy ourselves first. But to think that you or I, or de Grey for that matter, can experience longevity well beyond a reasonable expectation is nothing short of nonsense. Yes, we can certainly postpone death with clean eating and a healthy BMI, but don't expect miracles. Just enjoy the time you have and help others.
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