That has very little to do with this topic in discussion. It’s related to inequality created by the financial model being too extreme in the past decade or two. That’s a real issue but it has nothing to do with population metrics

Inequality has EVERYTHING to do with it.

just move into an abandoned house ...

................what opportunities?

Forty plus years of Neoliberal doctrine , Social Housing sold off , and not replaced, i think we're on the same wavelength.

Laziness paid off for black people, I guess. Their population numbers are soaring

Young millennials and Gen z quiet quitting the baby making industry….GLOBALLLY. W 🏆#childfreeZillennial #childfreeMillennials #childfreeZoomers

Immigration must be stopped for it to happen

it will not decline, because proprietors do not want to see the value of their property porfolio decline. if not natural, they will make population grow through immigration from the countries like india, where population growth is still at 30 mill per year, and the housing is cheap and aboundant ($10K for 2 bed flat in hyderabad, last time i checked.)

Unemployment is the lowest its ever been. Homelessness is far more complex than affording a home. Most people are homeless due to mental illness which I blame modern culture and social media mainly. Less people won't solve problems that need smart people to solve.

and the 700k of africans/poor immigrants that come yo UK every year?

@@tiagoalfredo9998 There's only 2 million black people in the UK. Your numbers are not mathing.

Very much overpopulated.

​@Zeno Karlsbach population levels don't actually matter in this issue. On average every person costs the state more than they contribute over a lifetime. Its a system of kicking the can down to the next generation. It genuinely doesn't matter the size of the next generation as they will also just cause the same problem for the next......

taking care of the senio citizens isn't their goal, their goal is to produce more sheep

When the population declines by 20% everyone will be able to own cheap homes. Demand will collapse.

That’s where immigration comes in.

That would make to much sense!

We can’t have that, it’s a threat to the rich.

People starve, because the excess food of the West can not get efficiently to third world. Young people can't afford housing, until restrictions are lifted and condos can be built to suburbs (in the US). Elderly suck up healthcare because their diets and lifestyles lead to diabetes and other disease. We have the technology and all material requirements are met. We just lack the will to implement it smartly.

It is touched on. The proportion of people starving in the world is the lowest it has been by a long way in all of human existence. More people are dying from eating too much than not enough. Housing costs don’t even correlate that well with fertility rates. The majority of history people had multi generational or even multi family households. Attempts to boost fertility rate with publicly funded childcare have been ineffective.

Saudi Arabia bombs Yemen and the US financing it, at the same time they speak about human rights in Ukraine, democracy and spit other propaganda onto masses.

those are factors of a bad economic system

Thats it my man. I feel this so hard :(

oh yes it was - youre just not the benefactor of it - the rich are

Don't be quite so fekking..... sensible!! oh, right, sorry.

Exactly! Population decline is NOTHING short of an issue; rather a blessing in order to greatly reverse/reduce our destructive behavior. Their only concern is their precious profits, rather than the humans that they exploit.

They'd have to reduce their bloated paychecks and golden parachutes (CEOS etc). That's not gonna happen on a voluntary basis.

Not half as stupid and irrelevant as our godawful President's statment : “The only existential threat humanity faces, even things more frightening than a nuclear war, is global warming,” Biden said I have not heard one person in several years give a sht about this. Biden with all his money might worry. Coked-up Hunter doens't care. Only clueless science-phobes like our stupid Presdient cares. ... I still remember that whole speech with that fake serious face talking about OMNIcron virus.-- and what did we find out later South African doctor who discovered Omicron variant SLAMS pressure from countries to make the virus sound worse than it actually is Dr Angelique Coetzee was one of the first scientists to discover Omicron strain She said she's been attacked from scientists and politicians around the world Dr Coetzee said she was told not to describe the Covid variant as 'mild'

They sky was always grey

@@stevejones2310 not when I was young!

@@stevejones2310 Soon it will be black, and the sun might become a myth, if oil companies don't stop.

come to one of your former colonies Canada then

There are pockets in the US that are the same. Lots of reasons, but the main one is because we let it happen and do not make people accountable for their behavior - in fact we encourage bad behavior at a societal level. It's sad.

We could fix many of those problems with higher taxes on the wealthy. They have something like 70% of the wealth and 95% of the income. Yet we tax them at the lowest rates.

They only like taxes.

Thanks for speaking some truth

Exactly having more people doesn't mean anything if they were to potentially live worse lives

"Housing pricing and the low availability of it is out of control which is contributing to homelessness, drug addiction, mental health" -- There is no evidence to substantiate this claim.

Nothing but rows and rows of soulless, anxiety ridden people; minds that are zapped of authentic emotion and self discipline. Social media has completely unwound centuries of communication within 20 years.

Interesting, what is your generation doing to reverse adverse impacts?

I think the positive effects outweigh the negatives, but of course there are major negatives that should be acknowledged and addressed.

@@TheHeavyModd "I think the positive effects outweigh the negatives" -- Please provide the evidence to support this statement.

It’s not the technology itself, it’s the advertisement, greed, and irresponsibility that deploys it. There are no limits hence very little human care. Just business as usual.

Good thing the BBC isn't a scientific body. (The GFN is not widely accepted either).

I heard Americans in coasts pollute like average European but in inner USA they pollute much more since they have single homes and use less public transport.

​@@konyvnyelv. Wikipedia has a page "List of U.S. states and territories by carbon dioxide emissions"

More babies more money for the rich so they could put them to work when they grow up

The BBC should not exist

IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE CONTROLLED!

Shhh don’t say that, the British plebs aren’t supposed to know they are being lied to, manipulated and brainwashed

overall immigrations good for capitalism - it produces growth which capitalism is addicted to - we in nz rely on it - weve had 50,000 immigration policy from 1999 to 2008 then its been around 100,000 since except for the covid years . This in turn created a housing crisis worsened by covid.

in NZ farmers dont pay enough so not enough kiwis work there - its filled by immigration - for NZ farming immigration works cause they get cheap labour - in some cases illegal under min wage labour. But youre saying it puts the burden on other industries like housing - exactly as commented below - i hadnt thought about other factors - power transport and food - prices have gone up but thats mostly do with money printing in covid. Perhaps its like population growth -it gets older and less young to support so need new people aka immigration they grow up and need more immigration to support them immigration produces growth and requires more immigration as economy grows certainly seems to be the mantra of business world and politicians here

The economy is a construct, a total fiction. Geophysics and biochemistry are hard limits in the real world. The economy should be the last consideration, but the people in charge are doing the opposite. It’s a nightmare.

Exactly. The shareholders need more workers undercutting each other so they can maximize the dividends they extract.

Well said. If we look at times and places where there were labour shortages the living standards and income of the labour force increases. The best example is the end of serfdom in England post the bubonic plague.

Capitalism as a system requires more and more people, gobbling up the earth's resources at a faster and faster rate.

So true!

Higher wages and resources. But this should happen to all countries not only West otherwise it's replacement

@@konyvnyelv. Not happening West has passed it's booming phase. Not all nations will have same population pyramid.

Or people make more sustainable choices ?

@@ekcs3941 Even if everyone consumed less the footprint is still too large., plus the trend is to use more not less resources. EVs are great but still require massive amounts of fossil fuel.

@@amraceway Im talking walking public transport, bikes etc etc not cars funny how car centric we are

Scarcity and expense are ALWAYS opportunities for innovation and growth of alternative technologies. It's not mentioned, because the solutions will emerge organically; but only if a sufficient population is maintained to produce enough innovators on the far right end of the bell curve.

Social enginering is fenomen?

not quite - india is still reproducing at the speed of 30mil per year, and they have cheap and abboundant housing.

For them as long as tax is paid its not overpopulation.

No, it is not overpopulated. Most people don't use too many resources. It's the shrinking populations that use up most resources. Human beings have vastly different individual resource consumptions. The increase in individual resource consumption in the shrinking populations overcompensate the reduction in size.

My state has millions of trees. Oil reserves globally are huge.

declining population of the germanic race is a disaster

Absolutely, especially when its in the WEST, its an incredible demographic replacement 💕🔥

I agree, we must stop imporzing foreigners so we don't grow our population

I agree. Where in the history books is it written that "the population of the working class got bigger and bigger and everything turned out fine"

incredible demographic replacement? Mind clarify @@myrnaa9517

Pollution is also a contributing factor to human fertility.

The correlation between obesity and childbearing is generally positive. It's the educated urbanites who are much more likely to be thin that are least likely to have replacement-level fertility. Likewise, cities with higher latino populations (higher obesity) have the highest birth rates.

Cars don't help. People drive everywhere for everything - obesity, poverty, lack of interaction, pollution are some of the negative effects of car-dependency

The daily Lie of human excuses makes a difference. Leadership is so totally dishonest at this point. Where is any reason for good faith?

@@Life_as_Gamenow I will say this, Japan is a country where people mostly walk and their birth rates have hit the floor. They’re also the healthiest and longest living people on the planet. Now I’m not saying they don’t have their own fair share of pollution cause they do, but health wise, they’re the top people in the account…

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How about the standard of living of the ones getting old since there is no young people to work anymore?

Regardless of his background, his main thesis, that population decline is a crisis, is completely off the mark. Population decline is a good thing for humans, and for every other species on Earth (he conveniently forgets that there are other species living on our planet). And climate change really is a crisis. He's peddling a load of crap.

I haven't watched the video, but I would have to agree with the criticisms just based on the headline. Environmental decline is a bigger problem than demographics because it's at the heart of infertility rates and sperm counts plummeting across the masses (declining food supply quality, decrease in nutrition, increase in toxins). Politics is the biggest issue overall, since governments are failing in their jobs to curb overpopulation and declining environments in favor of economics. There are clear cut failures in regulation across the board world wide and soft/hard corruption is at the root. What I find most common in relation to climate change, is the failure to factor in what follows an Arctic void of sea ice during summer. We came perilously close to a blue ocean event following the super El Nino of 2016 through to 2020. We've had 2.5 years of La Nina and are just coming out of it now. Another stretch or two of El Nino's and the world may learn the hard way what happens when the Arctic cap is no longer there to cool off the Northern hemisphere during the summer months. This may occur in this decade. I simply find that anyone who downplays the risks of climate change simply hasn't thought it through. The world is still highly reliant on hydrocarbons with consumption yet to find it's peak. We will hit thresh environmental holds in this decade, I believe. This is not a long term problem, it's on our doorstep now.

The meek shall inherit the earth. Look in your bible.

Yes, but the estimates are already being lowered.

@@GUITARTIME2024 “Estimates”? The ten fold increase is not an estimate.

@Balkan Mode I mean future projections. They are already being lowered somewhat, but yes, Africa will a huge chunk of global growth until 2100.

@@GUITARTIME2024 The good news is by 2100 AI will be in the process of culling this semi-intelligent species regardless whether they descend from a group with an average IQ of 85 or a group with an average IQ of 115. That would solve the “climate change” and other problems for planet Earth.

More than 100 years have passed and they still have Malthusians who think there is overpopulation, it is incredible how durable this ideology is, it is not enough for them to sterilize people in the third world

Before we? We're already there, have been for a long time.

So Africa and the Middle East gets to triple even quadruple their populations in the last 50 years. Meanwhile, Europe has like a 50% increase but somehow has to suffer all the effects of the 3rd world breeders. The world really needs more Europeans, native Europeans.

Absolutely spot on. A maysian of Indian origin arrived at Heathrow and got into a taxi driven by a Sikh. The Malaysian guy asked him if this was the United Kingdom. He thought he had got on a wrong flight!!!

bahahaahah get fooked nigel.

@agnescraig2912 Absolutely spot on. A man of Indian origin arrived at Switzerland and saw an english man talking on the phone. The Indian guy asked him if this was Switzerland. He thought he had got on a wrong flight!!!

Maybe England shouldn't have colonized so many countries...

​@BrianT It has everything to do with British Empire. For the British ruling Elite, whose bottoms the British peasants have been kissing for centuries, immigrants are a better investment in labour than the native population. Immigrants work harder than the Natives, create more wealth, are more loyal to the Elites and support the ruling British class. On the contrary, the Native British are entitled, lazy and are more interested in handouts. Natives can also be a threat to the Elite power structure. This is why the British Elite encourages immigration to maintain their power structure and wealth. Immigrants not only serve as a buffer for protection of British Elite but can also be used as boogeyman to distract the natives. Meanwhile the Elites continue to operate behind the scenes and live a life of luxury as they have been doing for centuries.

And it's going to take more than 20 years for 9 billion

If quantity wins over quality everybody loses.

unfortunately his pea brains focused on breeding so it wont be him. lol

I agree with your impression...but he cant be blamed for that...what he had to say counts and that was informative and insightful..

It's a cycle. The population will decline until we are no longer a strain on the resources of the planet and then another baby boom will happen

So..like climate change then..?

Bah, who wants to live in a world where production is all from robots and all the people are lawyers or in the government to make life ever more infuriatingly complex and pointless?

I guess we can all become artisans and relearn how to do stuff with our hands. Bit of a waste of resources for all those people who spent years and very considerable financial costs acquiring advanced knowledge skills, only to find themselves put out of work by an AI.

@@baltasarnoreno5973 Yeah, I'm eyeing a skilled trade that would fit me.

gtp is merely the summation of humans past thoughts and words

@@malcolmfreeman7802 Google is summation... this takes the summation and right now it is good enough to transform it into output good enough for most jobs. I'm not even talking about the fact that it's exponentially improving.

Your grasp of the English language is very poor

The highest birthrates will triumph as they are the beneficiaries of the knowledge, as he says, so their societies will prosper and increase their populations! This will create new militant leaders wanting to advance their county's territory and with modern arms will create more warfare like the current one in Ukraine.

White Nationalists wouldn't & don't begrudge the growth of other nations, peoples and countries where they did & do so without endangering their own - most want a sustainable diversity of different human populations rather than the destructive churn we currently have under the current globalistion.

Yes, the answer to that is to only push increases in longevity if people can be productive for large parts of that longevity. Pushing longevity only to have people bed-ridden and propped up by drugs and waited on hand and foot by youth seems an absurd waste of resources. We should be looking for human performance enhancement throughout the 40s, 50s, and 60s, to make people more vital and able to contribute more to society rather than maximum lifespans.

The only way to get each generation in 'self-sustaining mode' is for the over-65s to start paying a great deal more for their cost of living, either by receiving less public help through free healthcare systems and state pensions, or by liquidating the assets they have accumulated in the form of savings and housing. Try selling that argument to the people who are already retired, to the baby boomers who are beginning to retire, and to generation X who can now see retirement appearing on the horizon.

@@dancahill9585 Which is precisely what Macron in France is trying to do: increase the retirement age and keep people in the labour market for longer. Politically it isn't going very well. Employers also need to change their attitude towards older employees and not discard every resume or cv sent by a job applicant on the wrong side of 50 or 55 as 'too old'. We can crank up the minimum retirement age as much as we want, and in a lot of European countries the rate is already over 65. But that's not much help to the sustainability of the social security system if employers refuse to employ people in their late 50s or 60s.

but its bad for capitalists and the economy and politicians are geared to maintaining its profits

It's no wonder your western population is on the decline due to Liberalism and Fem ideologies entitlement 😂

Agreed. Capitalism as a system, requires more and more people gobbling up the earth's resources at faster and faster rates. Businesses want as many migrants as they can get. Migrants are customers. More people competing for the opportunity to earn a living, keep wages down and profits up.

AI scientist tegmark called this moloch problem... ie when we work in bigger system and trend is clear, either we loose job, company goes bust or we try to outcompete rival company and be first to do that trend better.

Are climate activists, to now promote a Logan’s Run future.

@@MrSandancer Why would they? We just need all the world to do what most of us are already doing: making fewer babies.

Capitalism is based on the ability for everyone have private property not growth.

haha, many of those scientists are speculators, it's like the doomsday clock

​@@kst2154Just like this guy on population.

and in the future the mass migration from areas of the world that become uninhabitable due to deafforestation and climate change will make this problem many times more accute.

Crowd up infrastructure? Blame immigrants and government for everything, but never take responsibility for anything. Please feel discouraged from forming a family. For the love of god, do not reproduce.

@@Ali-ps8rm Those places shouldn't be doubling their populations so many times each century then. Seems like they don't have much interest in eating.

Uh, the world is not deforesting at all. Its actually rapidly regreening due to rising levels of CO2. The Saraha is shrinking quickly for example, and the US has more forest area than when Europeans first arrived. The world has been much hotter than it is many times during its history and was far more lush than it is now. Think dinosaur era.

Also, I doubt very much that AI or their owners will be making up the taxes that humans would have been forced to pay

It makes a joke of the commodities exchange.

They are not ploughing crops into the ground in the fast-breeding countries.

Makes a joke of capitalism.

There is a massive famine in Yemen and according the the USDA around %10 of US households or 13.2 million households are food insecure.

thats only in western capitalist countries mostly and while true does not take into account either the unsustainabile unhealthy nature of food consumed nor other problems associated with overpopulation

No threats should be allowed ever

i liked your comment And its not directly but reading between lines hes a capitalist shill and trying prevent capitalism collapse which will eventually happen. Then if youre young it means prob no job , if still alive and old it will mean no pension

Yeah, but the real problem to that is: cultural tensions.

Hostile immigrants are also part of the problem.

By what metric we can easily feed 10 Billion as it is, a few less Envro fundamentalists would be nice

Look at what the data says. Don't be daft.

Climate change has been a danger to crops and fisheries over here, due to having more floods, and more seasons of drought.

This is a man who knows demographics but is absolutely clueless when it comes to ethics. Or ecology for that matter.

yah, as if everyone just can magic wand take money and status out of wall and somehow implied "faulty", weird, people who cannot do it. Well everyone has this problem, just it is more dangerous the higher status and decision power person has.

@@EJS1972 i want to add that I did benefit from the interview. I also was entertained by the British accents. I am definitely receptive to a courteous, thoughtful presentation by “ an influencer” of my generation

@@IusedtohaveausernameIliked "This is a man who knows demographics but is absolutely clueless when it comes to ethics" A politician, in other words.

The guy is clueless. 'People eat better food'. Do they now? That explains the terrible levels of obesity then...

that is false, democracy is a tambourine that controls the people whether they are 2 million or 200

The greater the population is the less freedom for everyone.

Whats the point of stoping cliamite change if there are no humans

@@theamazing2435 I don't understand your question. There are humans: there will be humans for a long time. Should we just leave future generations to suffer because we're too apathetic or lazy to try and act now?

Oh come on, I don't think I'm the only one getting tired of hearing the scare stories about too many people. When there is overpopulation of any species there are problems associated with that. Where are the problems of too many people making themselves apparent ? More people are living longer now than ever before, more people are better fed. More people have access to clean water and medicine than ever. More people are better educated than before. How are these factors supposed to act as proof of there being too many people, if anything, we have managed to mitigate any problems by making them positives, probably through improvements in communication and sharing resources and knowledge more readily

As population declines fewer people exist to consume, and therefore pollute, and therefore quite naturally any manmade 'problems' decline proportionally with the decline in the number of people

@@chrisbarron5861 The global population isn't declining. It is growing.

The narrative of overpopulation goes way back, decades even. The problem is not so much too many people, but how resources are used and allocated. Pandemics, trends, changes in climate will have the effect expected on population, but octomom's and 19 going on 20, are anomalies in society. I don't buy the climate change narrative splashed on us today, no more than I buy the covid narrative of draconian approaches to masking and forcing jabs. I believe the truth of the matter on many of the issues, including population, is somewhere toward the middle of the arguments of opposing sides.

Say that to Africa

@@Groove838 To the Africans in Africa, or to the Africans who are invading Europe because they can't make a living in Africa?

lol and both driven by capitalisms need for growth

Why no billionaires?

were not all standing shoulder to shoulder = not overpopulated, genius take, lol

Watch the Great Global Warming Hoax, on UKposts, first shown on Ch4. Co2 rises after temp rises, it lags by 600-800 years. Co2 is good for the planet. Growers inject it into large scale greenhouses.

Excellently said. He's someone who doesn't care less about wildlife, or the environment in general. He's also ignoring the immigration crisis, which will only get worse until we close the borders completely. We already have academics citing a future civil war in the UK, and other intelligent UKpostsrs are calling for concentration camps to house the immigration invasion. He's probably just worried the price of his house will come down if there's a depopulation.

For Japan's small land size I think 125 million people is overpopulated.

​@@Crashed131963 Japan is not small Correct yourself. Just search how big it is Japan is massive

@@TheMagicJIZZ Im from Canada , Japan is tiny to me . Thet US is 26x larger than Japan and only has a population 3.5 X larger. Nobody calls the US underpopulated.

@@TheMagicJIZZ A lot of Japan is too mountainous to be habitable. Great for forests, though. Plenty of wood for houses.

@@TheMagicJIZZ With 75% mountainous and wooded area.

Quite right. Individual nations have a serious demographic problem, but total human population is showing no signs of shrinking. But the total human population is causing serious resource depletion, ecological destruction, deforestation, mass extinction of other species, and potentially devastating climate change. Japan has a severe demographic problem because the culture is hostile to immigrants. Similar in Korea. Other shrinking nations are just bad places to live (e.g., China, Russia).

wrong

listening to this interview I would like to know why there are so many people in the developing who are hungry, thirsty and have a miserable existence. Have first hand experience of a miserable existence. Machines have made a lot of mundane jobs redundant. Thank goodness

@@albertvanlingen7590 Technically we could but we are too lazy, greedy and corrupt overall

​@stevec7923 This is not correct. The world's population and growth rate is rapidly slowing - easy to find graphs on this. It's median age is also rising rapidly as fewer young people relative to old ones. It only continues to grow bc of momentum and within the next few decades it will peak and then begin to fall faster and faster. We will probably never see 10 billion and within 100 years if current trends hold it will be back below 7 billion and falling. All of European and more and more Asian nations are already below replacement; China is already losing more than 20,000 people a DAY and will likely shrink by >500,000,000 people by 2100. Anglosphere is also at that tipping point. Latin American nations are also slowing rapidly. There are absolutely benefits to this of course, but it also presents massive challenges that we are not even beginning to plan for. Of course.

hahahahhaha

low fertility means low birth rate so id say its both

I respectfully disagree. We can easily maintain current and peak population. As economies develop birth rates reduce as does carbon use. Solution is to boost development across the globe.

I completely agree. The looming climate catastrophe and ongoing mass extinction are hardly mentioned, never mind considered.

It can be challenging to distinguish between political influences and genuine evidence. While I believe that overpopulation is not a pressing issue, as the global population is generally decreasing, it doesn't negate the need for proactive measures. Both perspectives can coexist, although this viewpoint may not be widely embraced in the political sphere. It's much easier to see the world as black and white, lol.

@@QuercusQuest This isn't about politics, it's about biology. In the wild when animal or plant populations get too large some disease, or predation, or some other mechanism comes along to trim back the population to a sustainable size. Humans have short circuited this by preventing disease, eliminating all threats, and doing nothing to keep our population at a reasonable level. There are simply too many human beings on planet Earth from a biological perspective. Other species are suffering terribly and many are going extinct as a result. And furthermore many humans suffer from malnutrition or starvation because there are too many mouths to feed despite massive industrial agriculture. And all this massive industrial agriculture is polluting the planet terribly. It's not sustainable as it is, nevermind with more population. It's not ethical to advocate destroying more animal habitat to grow more food for humans, we need to reduce human population back to a sustainable level instead, so that a diversity of life can live in a healthy way on this beautiful planet.

Do your part and reduce your carbon footprint, the world will be better off, no?

Biggest existential threat is, people like that in power.

However I am concerned about their quality of life, because we haven’t been able to cooperate to the level we need to to include the required diversity

@@Edo9River diversity of skill or is it of skin color?

@@nushia7192 we are akk wtnessing various turning points in history.

It's only a problem for the elite and corrupt governments.

Its just that white folks don’t want to import more colored labor from the poor countries

Well said! 👍

Countries such as Japan and South Korea could easily loosen their immigration policies to selectively allow more people from countries such as Vietnam, Philippines, and Indonesia in, if/when they feel enough pain from population decline. It seems they are not feeling much of that kind of pain yet.

@@user-fm6wd8xy2o countries are now nation states - the concept of nation and state in one - they would have to loosen that culture grip