Yeah I wanted to say that

Anything

Came here to say this... I'd be much more interested in that comparison.

Probably looking at a three or four thousand dollar PC because that's much closer to the mac studio

This. Also systems price competitive but better than the studio and mini. Seriously, who is buying this version of the pro?

deserves way more points

Deserved a reaction from Linus.

definitely

It’s apple pie filled with arm

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came for this comment :D :D

Lol

Came here for this comment

came here for this comment

Different circles and interests, maybe.

Fun story about that song: When it originally released, it was deeply unpopular, and radio stations couldn’t get traction with it, to the point where many of them stopped playing it. The record company ended up paying a bunch of big radio networks to play it over and over again, in an attempt to force a change in the public’s taste. And it worked! It didn’t take long for people to start choosing to listen to it, rather than explicitly avoid it. That’s the power of repetition in marketing.

@@smileychess huh interesting

Dude doesn't even know the difference between silicon and silicone, no way I can take him seriously.

probably because Linus' didn't sound anything like the song

It wasn’t even his.. don’t lend your boss your 4090. Though I prob couldn’t/wouldn’t say no to the guy signing my paychecks

This video includes dropping a 4090? Omg

I was borderline hoping to see a ripped off pcie slot 😢

he can pay for it anyways. ​@@swimmerboy172

They can't simultaneously claim Linus is a PC building pro whilst leaving in all of these failures to get the basics right. The Linus drops things joke became stale years ago.

lol wasnt even in

his soul probably left his body for a sec

funny enough he has a habit of dropping expensive shit, there are montages lol

i felt that

oh shut up....

Original

That is what his female employees say. Can't believe this guy is still around.

yep! i waslike "ewww"

I wanna see how much their views drop one he's gonna start showing up without beard full time in videos

​@@jaytrock3217What the actual fuck are you talking about??? The HR "issues" were related to a different employee?

😂

I dunno, to me no-beard Linus looks older and more physically wrecked than bearded Linus... =)

@@jubuttib The beard has been starving the face.

he looks like he aged 15 years since he didn't have a beard

@@OrjonZ I blame the weird facial treatment thing he went to. =)

it looks absolutely unplayable lmao

That's INSANE

Borderline unplayable latency

Technically the Apple M1, M2, M3 chips are essentially the Apple equivalent to Raspberry PI chips just with memory on die (RPI has memory on the board soldered on).

@@tripplefives1402 ... yeah... that's... that's the joke😐

@@NewPraetorianBlues I'm laughing while typing this on my RPI5 then.

I'd rather daily drive a pi3b+ over a Mac but I'd rather use a Mac than a windows device Natively having most of the Unix tools(in macOS ) is just better than trying to use windows for anything, But actually having a decent system (Linux, even on a SBC like a raspberry pi) is much better than Mac any day

@@eriklundstedt9469 the 3 is like 100 times slower than a 5. You can actually edit 4k videos on a raspberry pi 5. A 3 can barely watch videos in 720p and still drops frames.

A silicone CPU is a toy; a silicon CPU goes in a computer

the times I saw that mistake done in German dubs of especially kids shows (and the Simpsons) through the 90s ... identical English word, two different German ones. Yet they managed to -always- pick the wrong one.

lithium-ion and litihium-iron how many times iv heard that mistake @@Hortifox_the_gardener

Silicone is chemical product and its like rubber, silicon is chemical element.

Here’s the easiest way to tell the difference: Silicon Valley is near San Francisco and silicone valley is in Los Angeles.

The unnecessary inventions guy moved the port to the front and it doesn't work while charging lol

it is very stupid, but at least after when you charge it, it's unusable cause of how laggy it is in a game.

Humans also conceived the Steam Controller

@@Sicho84 haha I used to use that until recently when I replaced it with an Xbox controller... It was fine until you needed a right joystick. The back paddles I enjoyed

people made adapters so you could charge it from the front but apple being apple made sure the mouse is unusable while it charges because fuck logic

@@0NeeN0 😂🤣

14900ks does not exist yet you silly goose

​@buff9267 well he did say "will draw more power"

Yeah but therefore it's still the single threaded king. That's totally worth it if you run a phase change cooler...

im pretty sure the s was meant in plural. Not in the KS model meaning@@buff9267

@@horyzengm oh yeah fcourse stupid me

Man, that whole part had me cracking up so hard 😂

I honestly didn't know that 😅 I just thought it was an Americanism

The BTS on Arianna's upgrade had Linus explaining that not all metals rust. Linus said on floatplane that if he wasn't Linus Tech Tips, he'd be a middle-school science teacher. I don't think he expected to live the dream with Elijah. (sorry Elijah)

as a french speaker didn't know that too (and it's indeed confusing)

Now I feel bad for laughing 😰

It reminded me of 24 yo dude saying: "OMG I JUST THOUGHT TO THIS DAY THAT IRON IN CEREAL IS NORMAL IRON FILINGS (i mean not kinds metal shavings but yea it's the same)", yes, yes it is my child. If you've used magnes you would know that and point 2, iron is VERY important in our diet, especially cereal which is food primarily for kids and adults that wish they were kids (hello!) I was anemic (luckily not anything serious) but quality of life went up A LOT. When people figure out that naturally calcium (but it's really reactive so you rarely see it in it's clear form) is a metal they will lose their minds.

How is it I'm going to be building a new system and was considering getting the Define 7 XL over the Meshify 2 XL or Lancool III

Indeed, I'd like to know what CPU and GPU combo would be equivalent in terms of performance. I'd be more curious about that than the prices, in fact.

So is it like apple pie in American Pie?

It's like a supercar, I know i can't afford it, but enjoy watching about it.

Well if you can afford a Mac pro 😅

Point isn't for folks that can't afford it, it's hey, this is what you can get for the same money.

I mean these videos get millions of views. Sure the people who can afford this stuff are the 1 percent, but actually that's a shockingly large amount of the audience if you think about it.

The CPU costs more than me and my brother's pc builds. 😂

Of all the hits when we were kids there's a reason why he never heard that one. It's overplayed. Even after all these years no one actually goes back and listens to it because we're all still sick of it.

It's a reference to Confronting Myself by Lena Raine from the Celeste OST right? ... Right... ?

@@sntslilhlpr6601Speak for yourself, it's still great.

@@FG-418 Riiiiiight

​@@sntslilhlpr6601i love this song

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*should have

But it’s hey ya

I agree

Too many errors. Delete your comment.

so true. we need more components with badass names.

It's a reference to a seam/stich ripper tool for textiles.

Yeah or a sewing tool

@@thedanyesful haha

I thought Elijah was Frodo

@aaronalquiza9680 good one ​ @ballessss yeah...since Sam takes care of Frodo more than anything

Linus is like Markiplier and Elijah is like Ethan during Unus Annus

Elijah is the name of the Actor of Frodo

I toyed with the idea of going to Apple, thought better of it and stayed with Linux/PC.

How can human being with functional brain can even considerate going apple , there is nothing that makes it superior to competitors , oh it just works , you know what else just works pen and paper , eye hand coordination etc apple is joke

I decided to never buy anything from Apple when I heard they were charging people for iPod firmware updates back in around 2010. It told me pretty much everything I needed to know about the company.

the last Apple product I owned was the iPod Touch 2, I ripped all my CDs to iTunes and put them on it until it quit working about 6 years ago.

@@JoeBob79569 Wait till you hear what Microsoft is charging OEM's and customers in form of Windows licenses today. Even after paying the license fees MS is displaying ads of random bloatware programs on the Start menu. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think every release of macOS has been free since 2013 and seems to be ad free.

Yeah, lame that they didn't elaborate.

How does the Windows pc perform in Logic Pro and Final Cut?

@@mich977f it has Ableton and Adobe Premiere.

​@@mich977f​LoL those are apple software, anyway most of the industry use premiere pro and davinci resolve

​@@mich977f Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro is only for Mac systems.

@@mich977f Not sure I am building a Blender 3D specific work station. Never used Apple products, so never used those programs.

Was looking for this and if not i was gonna make that comment😂. He really did that good didnt he😅❤

Half at most.

Probably hard to do as its really usecase depending

Other one is upgrade ability, you can just replace CPU or GPU, In apple products you are stuck with it.

I meant probably less than half. For example for 4k instead of a macbook pro m3 max with 64-96gb ram and 2-4-8tb for the same amount of money you could buy an Ipad pro 12.9, an Iphone 15 Pro Max and 2 notebooks (ryzen 7 for hackintosh or as they call it ryzentosh) with 64gb ram 4tb nvme EACH. And with similar performance to M1 as far as cpu. That would be faster and more productive (4 computing devices) than 1 single macbook pro m3 max with high specs... Iphone pro max in case one uses it for photo and videos. Othewise you could buy a second Ipad Pro instead... OR for 4k total you could buy a I9-14900hx laptop with 96gb ram and 8tb nvmes (2x of 4tb gen4) with 4070 for windows, and 2 ryzen slower ones for ryzentosh with 64tb 4rb nvme each. 3 powerful (1 as fast as the m3...) laptops. 1 with Windows and 2 with Mac Os. Productivity compared to a single Macbook pro m3 max would destroy it... not even close..

Outkast - Hey Ya!

Shhh... *Royalties...*

He seems to think he isn't a very good singer at all. Evidence: Dan and the Christmas Album

He is in denial about being in high school choir.

Exactly my thoughts! We need a single from Linus!

Things like ECC memory are irrelevant for workstations, I haven't had my PC blue screen due to a bit flip in like a decade, and even if it did my work is saved automatically every 5 minutes anyway. It's practically just a marketing gimmick. ECC is only useful in datacenters.

@@oBCHANo bit flips don’t just cause blue screens they can degrade data quality. Autosaving is not going to detect or prevent bit flips, if the memory has bad data then bad data gets saved. But there’s some fair point that bit flips have been pretty rare. I recall the next RAM standard will make them standard because of how close to the limits RAM is getting.

you do realize there was two 4090's in there right?

@@NerdyCanadian96 not the point of his comment, they have money, it's just more 'silly' in a good way

Macs haven't had the price/performance crown ever since they switched to Intel

@@666Tomato666 tbf they had it briefly in 2021-2022 when Apple Silicon was fresh but the industry caught up really quick

@@unicornpoo7441 if you consider the CPU alone, but add actual usable amounts of memory and storage or consider GPU performance, and no, they haven't

​@666Tomato666 they switch to Intel because powerpc processor isn't powerful like the apple ads made you think that is. I remember... my hackintosh with mere core 2 duo e4300 put in the dust expensive dual g5 in 2007. How much is funny... because with a very cheap pc... running Mac os 10.4.8 (tiger) put a shame on expensive Mac pro g5 in that time.

@@TheOzBR I was talking about price/performance, not performance alone, please, a little bit of reading comprehension

The concerning part about the price of the mac storage is that as far as I can tell, it's nowhere near as fast as those fabric rocket cores that they put in the competing PC, but it costs twice as much for no reason

Interesting? I don't think so; since the death of the Hackintosh there are no hobbyist Mac users left in existence now to care enough to call it interesting. Today there are only 3 kinds of Mac users: Sensible, habitual, fashion victim. The first kind don't buy Mac's that aren''t laptops because, duh. The second kind buy Mac mini's, and if they have more money than they need maybe they buy Mac Studios to flex. The third kind buy everything Apple, all own the Apple deep sea immersion goggles and can't be reasoned with but it's their money and their loss.

But Hackintosh is not yet dead

Honestly it's too much, he's clearly coached to just pretend laugh at anything Linus says. I miss Taran and Emily (Anthony), they didn't just suck up to him the whole time.

@@Dathadorne "he's clearly". Don't state that if you have no proof. If you can't proove it don't share it.

If you've used magnes you would know that and point 2 When people figure out that naturally calcium (but it's really reactive so you rarely see it in it's clear form) is a metal they will lose their minds. In Polish there's no option to make a mistake as silicon is called "silicons" but Silica is called "Krzem" as the name comes from latin word "silex" which in Polish is "krzemień" (Flint in eng, found in sedimentary rocks as a silicon dioxide (SiO2) - which was already adopted so they shorted it from krzemień to krzem. But that's the reason I also thought silicon==silica while reading and hearing English sources (I started learning English from yt and later, news, politics, yt comments since 2019 etc.). Not the best learning experience but we somehow got there, and I really believe I'm on C1/C2 reading/hearing level but writing/speaking at maybe B1/B2? When there were shortages of silica I was really flabbergasted that polymer that we make chemically can run out without chemical shortages (No I didn't know yet that even silicon is made out of silica and other chemicals, as I said for me it was the same stuff) a) How do we have that of a shortage of human-made through chemistry made material b) How tf it is that good at making CPUs and GPUs that good? // IT ALL REMINDED ME OF FUN STORY, I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY EYES AND EARS It reminded me of 23-30 yo tik-tok boy saying: "OMG GUYS I'M SO STUPID, TO THIS DAY THAT IRON IN CEREAL IS NORMAL IRON "FILINGS" " (i mean not kinds metal shavings from nearest construction site/production hall, and tinkering guy's garage. But yes, it's FDA approved and typical Kellogg cereal have amount of iron less than 4g for 100g, compared to 12g in 100g of in a chicken liver or 18g in 100g of beef liver (AND 25G IN 100G OF OX TONGUE (ox is just a name nowadays it's all beef cow). Yes, yes it is my little pampered child which comments also said him that they are what they claim they are not, even Hank Green had to do short explaining that.. I don't know how people can be so sure and ignorant putting a statement that 60% teenagers could deem it batacrap insane. Also Iron (especially in metal form, not bonded to bond in our organism, which is needed for circulatory system, because hemoglobin (red blood cells) need Fe to be built (remember, we lose all of our cells every 7 years, cell who doesn't want to die and refuses to do so is cancerous, so next time think about it and give your cancerous cells best day of their life so they can go in peace. They are just lil' guys who are afraid to die, tell them that even the smallest of the small are welcome in the kingdom of the god or w/e your imaginary friend is! Fe is VERY important in our diet, especially in kids and adults that wish they were kids (me too buddy :( ) while cereal is the only thing they want to eat oftentimes. I was anemic (luckily not anything serious) but quality of life went up A LOT.

You make money on it, or buy the slow M.2 Studio. Need a fast Nic, or is Thunderbolt 4 enough ? LINUS GETS PAID BY ADS, WHY SHOULD HE UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ?

You don't need a glass of water. You just need air that has a little bit of moisture in it.

@@lucasrem what?

@@RealCheesyBread Damn, overcompensating again.... lol

​@@lucasremBro what are you saying

I know this is said as a joke, but that's just pre-shave Linus. I swear they need to just put the calendar date clearly in every shot or people won't know how long these videos take to make...

this is fine. no one that buys an apple actually has a work load. they buy them so they can sit in star bucks using social media and feeling smug while sniffing their own farts. the chip only needs to support one instruction set, and that is to show the apple logo on the screen, not just the back of the screen.

@@iris4547Nope, we buy them to have nice machine to connect with our compute clusters. If you have a real load then you do not have a box under your desk, you have racks of servers somewhere where you do not have to see and hear them.

Afair only Intel had avx512 anyway, and they're phasing it out too?

@@nujuat No they aren't. Avx-512 is only getting bigger. All AMD zen4 CPUs now have avx-512 support. Edit: and regular consumer Intel CPUs do as well, the problem is that the e cores are from an older architecture that doesn't, so only the p cores support it.

​@@iris4547I would never buy a Mac, but I also wouldn't lie this bad. Plenty of people do "real" work (whatever that means) on one

the Pre Steve clean linus ?

Nothing would run on it though. I don't think these applications they ran as benchmarks are available for it.

@tripplefives1402 Cinebench 2024 supports the Windows on ARM platform. Blender currently has a limited feature set on WOA but is progressing.

pretty sure this wasn't the first time he dropped a 4090

I wouldn't say industrial grade. I had an electrician install a 240V line for mine and it wasn't exactly a big deal.

We just park similar machines where we have the washing machine. Those are usually 240V outlets

I'd imagine their office already has a lot of those built in.

According to Silverstone, it will run at 1650W @103-264V. The product label suggests it is basically a 1650W PSU that you can (maybe) push to 2050 if you feed it between 200 and 240v. From the specs it supports 90V to 264V. Actually, you probably wouldn't get 2050W. It appears to be intended for 2050W @208v, not 240v, which usually means derived from a 3-phase supply in the USA. Receptacles are rated for voltage and amperage. The common ones you see in a home in the US are 15A because that's the cord that most things come with. However, 20A circuits can use 20A receptacles. "Industrial grade" refers to how physically sturdy the product is, not the volts and amps it can supply.

Yeah exactly as this video just showed

I would like to see a PC already built for the same price as the MAC pro. Yea you can cherry pick your components and build something better. But let’s test off the shelf.

@MrTruffles20 Here's a few: ThinkSystem SR665 at $4,159.74 ThinkSystem SR860 at $5,882.37 PowerEdge R760xa starting at $29,658.98 PowerEdge T550 starting at $5,189.00 AS-4125GS-TNRT with pricing at request, but you can safely assume it will be 10K plus At the price point of the Mac Pro, you are comparing against enterprise products with enterprise support

@@MrTruffles20 Well a pre-built pc from a company like Scan for example is going to not be that much more expensive than the parts themselves.