THE BIG SECRET about trimmer line on any brand like Stihl, Echo, Husqvarna, to SAVE YOU TONS MONEY!

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DO NOT throw away your old, brittle trimmer line! Save a ton of money with this SUPER EASY TRICK!!
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@Chickanic 22 дні тому

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@CarlosAlberto-ii1li 5 днів тому

A Ton.

@tomfoolery5832 2 роки тому

My Stihl dealer told me the bucket of water trick a few years ago and it does help, but the problem I was having was the line pinching on itself in the spool and it would not feed. I discovered several years ago a sure fire trick and that is to shoot a little silicone spray on the line, this was a game changer for me. Hope this helps someone else.

@MrMambott 2 роки тому

I used WD 40 in my line soak But I did/and still do use silicone spray for a hell of a lot of things that called for dry lubrication as a Timber Miller and Heavy Industry Mechanical Fitter

@mattlaptop5728 2 роки тому

Thanks for sharing that tip - I have the same issue and was looking for a solution. I’ll give it a try.

@derekp6636 2 роки тому

dang, good tip for this season! I gotta spool mine up and trim the fence line anyways...

@phillaurin7125 2 роки тому

Smart

@unclejimmyray 2 роки тому

Dumb question; Exactly what are you spraying with the silicone spray? Do you spool it up and spray the line?, lay it out flat...? How should I do it?

@patrickmooney4895 Рік тому

I was a Echo certified master technician before I retired and was a small engine mechanic for decades , I personally worked on the small engine equipment for over 50 landscapers every year as well as everyone else who came in the door. And I can say that you are spot-on . One thing to keep an eye on is the eyelets that the line goes through if they are worn they can cut the line.

@brusselsprout5851 Рік тому

Thank you

@MrMambott Рік тому

I used Huge old Echos in the mill and bushland cutting railway sleepers, I had one arm near double the size of the other, heavy old things lol

@subsonicdeathmonkey Рік тому

And they wear harder with with the hard edges of non-round line.

@matt7iron Рік тому

I use 065 line for my Black and Decker, what weed eater line can last longer getting beat up against sidewalks and cement, any guess.

@patrickmooney4895 Рік тому

Unfortunately you're using the thinnest line made for a weed eater and I have never found any that size that can hold up well to concrete , sorry

@ginamiller6015 Рік тому

Another thing that works well is to store your spool of trimmer line in a sealed ziplock bag with a splash of water inside. Keeps it hydrated and flexible indefinitely. Great video as always 🫶

@iowawrench Рік тому

Zip ties too.

@michaelray5595 7 місяців тому

Things you learn at 50....🤦

@ginamiller6015 7 місяців тому

@@michaelray5595 never stop learning 🫶

@MCarmer21 7 місяців тому

I've done this for years, I put two wet sponges one on each side of the packaging the line is in. And I fill the bag up with about an inch of water, then I seal that bag up, and put it inside another big bag and seal that up to. So it doesn't leak.

@mongomay1 7 місяців тому

Hello Chickanic and viewers. Talked with one of our QA engineers about string trimmer string and how to maintain it because it is made of nylon product. He said all you have to do it put your spools/string in a ziplock type plastic bag with a tablespoon of water. He said you want to see moisture on the inside of the bag, then pull it out of the bag when you need to use your string trimmers no need to dry it. QA engineer said it works anytime you are not using your string cartridges or even your bulk string packs. Said it also works with anything that is made of nylon to make it more flexible before snapping an assembly together, think automotive trims and interior nylon components. BTW we work at a large lawn, garden and tool MFG. Good going Chickanic! 🙃😉😊😛🤑🤗🤨

@nick39 8 місяців тому

This video made my day! There is nothing worse than having the line break or melt inside the trimming head. I always trim at the end of my yard work which equates to being dog-dead-tired!😂 I’m excited to try this! Thanks for the tip!

@JAYG79. 2 роки тому

I realized the hydrate method when I bought some line a few years ago. I bought some line in a container that had a sponge in it. On the container it said keep sponge damp for best results, line becomes brittle when dry. It actually makes a huge difference. Great video by the way.

@ChrisSmith-mh6vk Рік тому

Great video. I'm 67 and have been whipper snipping for many years. Today I learnt something. Certainly after the COVID lockdowns I've noticed the lines were breaking far more often. Now I know to soak the line... Thx from Down Under.

@JosephTaylor-hs3pb 9 місяців тому

I started using the Black Diamond line about three years ago and I love it. It cuts very good and doesn't seem to pull as hard as the round line. I get good wear out of it too. It runs quieter too.

@jstpsgthru 2 роки тому

POINTS! It's refreshing when someone offers good, correct advise that could cost sales. You obviously know that honesty and helping customers will get you a whole lot further, in the long run. THANK YOU

@Chickanic 2 роки тому

I appreciate that!

@Jamwcjconn 2 роки тому

Thanks Chickanic great video, didn’t know that about hydration of the string trim 👍

@Sensei948 2 роки тому

@@Chickanic oil mix 1:33 husqvarna 372 xp 357 xp is ok ?

@drooplug 2 роки тому

It doesn't cost sales, it builds trust. You will have more people coming to you if they trust you. In the end, this will increase sales.

@positiveaspect5730 Рік тому

It absolutely works wonders for a business to give the right advice, even if the customer has to go elsewhere to get the thing you don't have, but reccomend. If sales staff play dumb, when you ask "can you recommend someone/something that could help" I'm not going back for anything. Cooperation will yield more than competition if you do it well.

@CarvelLoafer 2 роки тому

Thanks for this tip, it confirmed what my local small engine guy told me about soaking the line in water, he suggested to just leave it in there. It also explains why the new line that came with my new Sthil was so brittle and snapping.

@kcucullu 8 місяців тому

Loved both tips about hydrating your bulk line spool (even if it is brand new) and using only round line to avoid binding in the head....which is what I have run into with the line that has edges. Thanks much!

@BearE9090 6 місяців тому

Great video, i have a large spool of Stihl 95" line trimmer line that is 2 years old and noticed that i was respooling it alot sooner than normal. I soaked it in-between trimming(about 4 days) and sure enough it lasted a lot longer than before. Thanks for the great tip.

@mattwasmyname Рік тому

Another tip is to run trimmer at lowest possible rpm for what you're trying to cut. Especially when cutting around hard surfaces like concrete or brick. The line breaks way less often when I ease off on the throttle

@springfield03sniper Рік тому

Gotta be careful, cuz 2 stroke motors are meant to be ran wide open. Oftentimes, running at low reps for a long time will cause carbon buildup

@robertshorthill6836 Рік тому

A trick I learned from a neighbor: Take out the spool, get a small roll of .095 or .105. Get a vice grip pliers and tie a knot in the end. Heat this knot just enough to soften the plastic and pull the end with the vice grip. Cut it to a length that clears the cutter blade inside the guard. Put one or two of these line pieces into the hole or holes, snap on the cap and go whack some weeds. Make up several of these line pieces and carry them in your pocket. These cut better and last longer than the skinny little line on most of the trimmers available in stores. Gas trimmers are expensive and prone to not starting after a couple years. Battery trimmers are the way to go, but require frequent charging. Electric are nice if you have long cords.

@tony8354586 Рік тому

…..just run the trimmer at idol, String will last forever….

@wineycartwright9257 Рік тому

@@tony8354586 I have found if you never use your trimmer it will last for a long time too.

@wineycartwright9257 Рік тому

@@michaell31 Funny!

@thadschaeffer2563 2 роки тому

I have been doing lawn care over 40 years. I learned last summer (2021) from an article online about soaking trimmer line in water to rejuvenate it. In the manufacturing process the line is pulled through water. Then after time it dries out and becomes brittle. Thanks for letting people know about soaking the line in water.

@chriskeating5926 Рік тому

How long do you soak it in the water for? Thanks and cheers 🍻

@thadschaeffer2563 Рік тому

@@chriskeating5926 soak trimmer line over night or 24 hours.

@chriskeating5926 Рік тому

@@thadschaeffer2563 ok thanks ,cheers 🍻

@chriskeating5926 Рік тому

@@thadschaeffer2563 ok thanks for that tip

@murrayburke7746 Рік тому

I’ve been using the same 320-ft roll of .080 Rino-Tuff triangle-shaped line I bought four years ago. It has been through summers of 105F degrees and winters of sub freezing temps sitting in a metal bucket in a garage. No signs of fatigue or cracking. Works without a problem in my battery powered Ryobi.

@rogermurph101 10 місяців тому

I love the black diamond line. I’ve tried several other brands, including Echo’s orange line, and some round lines. I’ve found that the black diamond holds up best against fences and leaves a nice crisp edge. I’ve never looked close enough to see if it’s leaving a clean cut on each blade of grass, but it looks pretty good from eye level!

@rossk4864 Рік тому

What an interesting tip. I didn't even realize that nylon was hygroscopic until seeing this video and doing some follow up research. Always a great day when I learn something interesting!

@LasVegas68 2 роки тому

Never would have I ever thought about reconditioning trimming line in water! Thank you for sharing this video.

@KiethJohnson-xh7qj 7 місяців тому

Hey, love your channel. Just have to say that I've been using the 6-sided trimmer line on my 8-yr. old EGO trimmer for about 6 years and it's the best and longest lasting line I've ever used since I've owned my EGO. Very nice info on how to rejuvenate trimmer line BTW. I never would've thought about it.

@wetherby6774 11 місяців тому

Re-threading your own line is the way to go, you shouldn't run out by doing it this way. I have a small piece of property so I use an electric trimmer from Harbor Freight, but I sure would like a gas-powered trimmer with the super head they're all known for. Great video, thanks for the advice!

@stinkycheese804 9 місяців тому

Recent generation cordless (battery powered) trimmers have come a long way in recent years, as long as you choose a 40V or higher model, might be the best compromise for your small property as their main downside is the shorter runtime compared to gas. At the same time, if you buy a cheap one it will lead to a bad experience just as buying a cheap homeowner grade gas trimmer could.

@Kdlawman74 2 роки тому

I recently discovered Chickanic and she is excellent!! She’s straight forward, giving information that’s useful in an entertaining way. I love this woman and will be using her information to maintain my equipment.

@Patrick-pl8wv 2 роки тому

Thank you for your time and information with honesty. I wish everyone would be honest about what they sell. Kudos to you.

@hudsonhollow Рік тому

As a life long motorcycle mechanic and off road racer, I learned a lot about my string trimmer from you in this video so I subscribed. A lot of our knowledge and experience overlaps, but not trimmer string. 🤣I'll always buy the round line from now on. Thanks!

@jonwoodrum9478 Рік тому

Love your honest pragmatic approach to your videos, it’s refreshing !

@rtkville 2 роки тому

Very informative! I did not know about the things you shared today like the line being able to re-hydrate in water. I was planing to go to the local big box store to buy new line as the line I was using was breaking off to often, ( thinking dry & brittle), you changed my mind, thank you! Just an old man.

@alasdair4161 2 роки тому

One extra advantage I've noticed with hydrated line is the extra mass adds to the centrifugal force holding the line out perpendicular, creating a more powerful cutting force. When I hit the really heavy stuff I always pre soak the loaded spool from the night before, and I add a few drops of dishwashing detergent to the water which breaks the surface tension of the water against nylon in a bunched state and also helps prevent friction lock of the cord in use. I got that tip 18 years ago from a greenkeeper who was ironically named Wes Green.. (Mr. Greens Mowing) thanks Wes, it works, and thanks Chickanic, round really is best.

@stevenmark8156 2 роки тому

Thanks, that sounds like a great idea and you’ve already tested it for us! I’m going to do it too. Sticking line is a super pain in the butt!

@scorpnz4433 2 роки тому

It works two fold. Dishwash softens the water as well as acting as a penetrant. It works the same when adding it to a backpack sprayer of weedkiller negating the need for a commercial penetrant additive

@theoztreecrasher2647 2 роки тому

I generally find that the best Trimmer is a Howard 6-footer driven by a 70/80Hp ride-on. A bit hard on sliding glass doors at times but cleans up the lawn area real quick! Keeps the nagging rate down and you don't have to do it so often - especially if you back in a bit close to the roses on occasion. 😜😁

@MrMambott Рік тому

@@theoztreecrasher2647 I had an 18hp Kohler driven John Deere and a Massey Furgerson Tower with 4-foot slasher But I don't think that's the Trimmers he is talking about LOL Funny Good to see jokes for a lighter side of life : )

@flapjackson6077 Рік тому

Excellent tips! 👍

@BarM-dx1sg 2 місяці тому

First and foremost, I enjoy your videos. (I'm Retired). TY for sharing your Tips & Tricks. I learn something new everyday.

@davidwoolsey2300 11 місяців тому

This tip alone made me a subscriber! I was ready to get rid of my new-ish Milwalkie string trimmer as the line kept breaking inside the eyelet...what a big pain! I did an overnight soak and ...Instant success! Thank you!!!

@leer-winnobbeefarms2131 2 роки тому

Great video! I have two Echo trimmers. They are very rugged and reliable! My dealer told me to put the line in a bucket of water! Really works. I, too, have run a lot of different brands of line. I found the Black Diamond line to be really great. Even brittle, it out lasts others. You just reminded me to keep mine hydrated. I have had the string melt together in the head. Thanks for the great info! Lee

@MrJoecool9999 Рік тому

Good tip for sure - I use 4mm line and it lasts for ages - but found it breaking quite quickly when scarfing - figured out the problem is caused by heat from the friction of scarfing weakening the line - giving it a break every now and again helps....!

@gregclaydon6727 Рік тому

After 32 years in business (in Australia) selling and servicing outdoor power equipment we sold thousands of metres of trimmer line. I found that there are definitely different qualities in trimmer line brands, we did experiment with different brands and some are definitely better than others. Our best seller was the ‘Star shaped line’ but as you stated you can’t compare the outside diameter to ‘Round line’ go up at least one size, although I am now retired and sold my business, I still have a roll of ‘Star’ line that is about 3 yrs old and works perfectly. The sharp edges on the star line do cut much better in heavy grass. For small electric trimmers I would recommend sticking with the round .065. As to trimmer heads, take a look at the Makita brand, it’s an Auto feed with tap & go function, very easy to reload with slotted eyelets, although mine is only used domestically it is over 12yrs old and works a treat.

@equsnarnd 10 місяців тому

I use the Echo quick load trimmer head and it takes less than a minute to load with 20' of line and the bump and go is flawless.

@jimbo2629 9 місяців тому

My Makita head is a nightmare when trying to undo it and worse when you try to replace it.

@roadstar499 9 місяців тому

I prefer .095 for my electric trimmer...not all electric trimmers are weak...some are actually way to powerful imo...for home owners with normal yards electric trimmers are great..

@openphoto 7 місяців тому

I haven't had any issues with the Husqvarna heads after being driven insane by the one that came with my Honda .

@roadstar499 9 місяців тому

Was in lawn service for 20 years..retired from it 24 years ago...i never new the water trick,pretty cool...i do remember trying ridged line back in the day and not liking it,so i went back to round..for last 8 years i have been using 100 dollar b&d with .095...i have a pretty big yard with a lot of trees,chainlink fence and edging to do..12 feet of line usually lasts a year for me...i love electric compared to gas..i usually do all trimming on low setting..this still cuts the grass well,but makes line and battery last much longer..of course if i was in business i would need a much more powerful machine to deal with customers over grown messy yards..thanks for sharing

@42lookc Рік тому

Great advice! My operational attitude at my shop is that my first priority is to _help_ my customers... even if no immediate sale results. Making a living falls into place by default simply because they will automatically come to me first whenever they need anything because I earned their trust.

@Czangrlli422 Рік тому

What town and state is your shop located?

@42lookc Рік тому

@@Czangrlli422 I'm in Ontario Canada.

@Czangrlli422 Рік тому

@@42lookc We need someone like you in NY

@karenhoyland370 Рік тому

@@42lookc where in ON are you?

@macforme Рік тому

@@42lookc Then, I'm moving there. 👍🤗

@davek6630 Рік тому

I bought an Echo a few years back, just because of the speed head! It’s been the best most trouble free trimmer!

@45391339 7 місяців тому

I learn something useful every time I listen. I hydrated my line spool as soon as I heard this.

@DanielCoffey67 7 місяців тому

Hi Chickanic - I wanted to say thank you for your advice on both changing to round line and soaking your cord even if it is new. It was very helpful advice. I have a 36V Bosch trimmer in which I was using some old Stihl 0.095 square line. It was hard to load into the head as it kept snagging on its edges and of course square line has a lot less body than the equivalent round line. Since I had owned my reel of line for about four years (and who knows how long it had sat on a shelf before that) it was dry and I seemed to go through quite a lot of it. Having replaced it with Echo 0.095 round line and pre-soaked the entire reel I am very impressed. I tackled some coarse dried tussocks of grass in a paddock as a test and the round line was barely marked and not eroded. The square Stihl would have done the job but shortened considerably. I have also treated myself to an Echo Speed Feed for which I am still seeking the correct bushing since I am in the UK. My Bosch uses a M10 x 1.0 LH thread which would be the green Shindaiwa bushing but most non-US Speed Feeds are the Echo brand and come with only the group of Echo M10 x 1.25 LH bushings. No worries - Amazon US to UK will provide. Once again - thanks from this side of the pond!

@shadymaint1 2 роки тому

I used to work at a Stihl dealer. Had a Stihl factory rep tell me the bucket of water trick almost 20 years ago. Has worked well for me over the years. My FS90 is still going strong as well.

@markbrisec3972 Рік тому

How long should it soak up? I've got a spool of trimmer line in my van and we use it every day commercially. I don't want to pull the 5 pound spool every day, soak it in the water for half an hour. That simply wouldn't work...

@455buick6 Рік тому

@@markbrisec3972 You don't particularly need to soak it unless it's brittle, if brittle soaking it for 2.5 days does the trick

@jarrodp6068 2 роки тому

Many years ago i bought a spool of the Stihl 4 sided line always used the round prior run it in my Stihl fs90 i find that for me it seems to cut really thick and dense stuff better but otherwise not a lot of difference !! I think it matters more the right size and how many cc your trimmer is based on what you're doing with it !

@burnerloco4138 14 днів тому

It all makes sense about solid round line and 3 sided line. No more sided line for me. Thanks for the tip👍

@BigRedServicesLLC Рік тому

Best trimmer line I have ever used is the husqvarna titanium force; it does incredibly well on chain link fencing especially. I found out at 0.080 line in titaniumforce was as good or slightly better than most 0.095 line from echo or Stihl.

@bobkuboske6494 11 місяців тому

Agreed, it came with my new trimmer and it's straight up impressive. I've never seen anything even close to it.

@kvantimm 11 місяців тому

Yup, once i used this I never looked at anything else.

@equsnarnd 10 місяців тому

Why are you trimming chain link fences. The machine and string are designed to trim grass.

@BigRedServicesLLC 10 місяців тому

@@equsnarnd because grass grows in and against chain link fencing.

@equsnarnd 10 місяців тому

@@BigRedServicesLLC Well, then...spray the chain link fence line or suck up the cost of the trimmer string being shredded. Perhaps you do either one or both. But my comment is for the people who develop no finesse with a trimmer and just throw it at rocks, cement, metal poles etc, and then complain about it breaking. I'd like to give the Husqvarna line a try to compare it to the Black Diamond line that I use.

@northeasterndirtandpropert7974 2 роки тому

I distinctly remember buying plastic STIHL blades for my trimmer years ago.The instructions said to store the blades in water when not in use.Thanks for the tips.

@lylek8933 2 роки тому

Never thought about re-hydrating line to keep it from getting brittle, thanks for the tip. :)

@deltaphisig Рік тому

I'm just a homeowner, but I absolutely love the Oregon Magnum Gatorline Supertwist. The might all cut weeds the same, but they don't edge the same and that Oregon line is stellar!

@marcmartinovic5366 25 днів тому

I was looking several of your videos and I can tell you you are a real deal. Great to have someone like you! Thank you.

@dontaskme7004 2 роки тому

My dad made a trimmer attachement for his drill/driver using an old hole saw and heavy duty fishing line... Tie the line through holes in the hole saw, put the bit in the chuck, trim your edges. You can also use cable ties instead of fishing line. Wear saftey goggles because the cuttings fly everywhere.

@MrMambott Рік тому

I tried to use push bike brake cable in my little old 21cc Mc Collough ( However it's spelt ) when I was 15 and it was so off-balance it near tore out of my arms LMOA

@RH-ib7bg Рік тому

Very interesting about the hydration of the line. I've owned a lawn business for 17 years and tried them all. Desert Vertex stealth line is my favorite. .095. I've never found anything better. Especially on chain link fences.

@gamerfarms9362 Рік тому

i do alot with chain link fences have you tried just the standard stihl orange line .095 I changed to that 2 seasons ago from the echo line and honestly it lasts in the trimmer I have only had to change about once a dayor every other day depending who I have operating it

@ifyoutip 7 місяців тому

I guess most people dont read the owners manual. But last trimmer i bought the manual said it could be helpful to soke the line in a bucket of water.

@denverbasshead 7 місяців тому

Same, my trimmer mower from DR says to soak the line in water every time you change it

@leonidas402 7 місяців тому

Thanks for the info about soaking old line in water to rejuvenate, I couldn’t figure out why I was burning through so much line so fast and your tip saved me from throwing out an old spool

@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 2 роки тому

🤯🤯 As a professional who's used many different lines for years, I've found that _nothing_ beats Black Diamond, in that it does fly straighter, cuts better, edges cleaner ( I edge with my string trimmers, not a blade 🤷‍♂️ ), and doesn't fray or split at the ends. Thanks for that rehydration tip, queen 😉 Always good to see you.

@kirkthebeerslinger 2 роки тому

As a professional - edging with string is not 'professional'...we all do it - there is a time and place for it...but string edges repeatedly do not compare to a proper blade edge...you do you tho!

@mikeshaw9220 2 роки тому

Me too. The .105 is awesome.

@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 2 роки тому

@@kirkthebeerslinger 🤣 If you don't know what you're doing 🤷‍♂️ Where I'm from "professional" means all the way through, not just _looking_ the part. I use my tools quite well. Nevermind the fact that a strong trimmer causes NO damage to concrete or other material, unlike a misplaced blade edger--in the hands of the skilled as well as those in training. I find that surprising that absolutely noone in your area can run a sharp, straight edge with a string trimmer 🤷‍♂️

@kirkthebeerslinger 2 роки тому

@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power hey-you are entitled to be wrong if you like...the nature of the spinning string when it hits the turf/concrete deflects and when you string trim the same edge over and over all season long it can't help but get wider and wider...maybe you don't care about a crisp edge and maybe neither do your clients...I didn't say I don't flip edge...depends...and ya-I know what I am doing...and I know it well enough to know there is a difference...but go ahead and tell me how you can drill a hole more precisely with a hand drill than you could with a drill press because you're such a professional and all...

@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 2 роки тому

@@kirkthebeerslinger Don't project. Because you can't conceive of string trimming an edge repeatedly without it becoming a 3 or 4 of 5 inch chasm, doesn't mean plenty of us out here can't do it. We do it every day and have for years. If the stick edger is what works for you, hold onto that; no need to try and throw shade on someone who takes their craft seriously and knows how to use their tools. Also, an edger is a piece of stick equipment just like a string trimmer. It too is capable of wandering from the edge in unskilled hands, so the drill analogy doesn't hold. I'll put my 410x ( or any trimmer ) against a blade edger all day...miles of sidewalks, whatever.

@orangecrush5512 2 роки тому

I use a Stihl FS 130R, that I've had for several years. It's the perfect combination of power, weight and versatility for me to trim and edge my acre of property. (I owned a landscape maintenance business for several years, back in the early 2000s and used larger trimmers, also.) I've always used the "tap and go" heads. I've used many different trimmer lines. For whatever reason, the .095 Stihl Square trimmer line has out performed all of the other lines I've used. I rarely get binding or melt inside the head. I live in a pretty humid climate, so I've also never dealt with line breaking from being brittle, even though I buy it in 3lb spools that take several years to use. As far as noticeable "cut performance", I've never really noticed any difference in any of the lines I've used...........but I never looked at the grass through a magnifying glass, either....😄. Nice info. Liked and subbed.

@injuneer7942 Рік тому

Great advice .... I went away from round line years ago and have had nothing but trouble. Time to get some more round line!!!

@ronperkins1676 8 місяців тому

My new Husqvarna trimmer instructions mentioned soaking the line in water overnight to make it more pliable & extend its life. That tip has saved me a lot of money.

@kenhulett8789 2 роки тому

I worked for a municipality and we had two cemeteries that we took care of. Lots of headstones that trim around. We bought our line in 5lb. spools. One of the old timers always said to let it sit in a bucket of water. Many of us didn't believe him. Learn something every day i guess.

@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 2 роки тому

My favorite headstone inscription is from John Yeast: Pardon me for not rising. My next favorite gravestone inscription is Rodney Dangerfield's line: There goes the neighborhood.

@slapyomomma 2 роки тому

@@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 Or on your headstone: " Well Shit, That Didn't Work"

@aaronpowell4885 2 роки тому

Great to know! I have a spool of echo .95 with atleast 150' left that's probably 15 years old. Loaded a head with some of it last year, kept snapping off every time I went full throttle. Guess I'll give it a drink! Thanks for sharing👍

@vashon100 Рік тому

Wow .95 is almost an inch.

@aaronpowell4885 Рік тому

@@vashon100 😅 kinda missed a 0 didn't I !

@andyjame5608 8 місяців тому

I had a model older than this one that I love. My sister has difficulty with tools that are too heavy and she actually loved mine and found it easy to use ukposts.infoUgkx_rBCFuDW1zD6blTGhLkvAkxU657uR_lG . This is a newer model but was even lighter which she really appreciates. She enjoys it and I no longer have to go to her house to trim as she can handle it fine. Haven't used it enough to comment on the battery life but lithium batteries last longer than the old style. Being cordless makes it easy to trim the far edges of the property. The entire yard can be trimmed with one charged battery.

@krakadile 9 місяців тому

Always talk to the experts. Thank you Chichanic

@ratdog3055 2 роки тому

Great tip! Several years ago, I bought a 2,000foot roll of .080 from a K-mart that was closing for $10. I noticed that it was breaking more frequently last year. Gonna try the water soak and see how it works!

@youngjdet Рік тому

Did it work?

@walterjwalnut9964 2 роки тому

Interesting point you make about line drying out. I'm in Australia and do a fair amount of trimming around fence lines, banks, trees and a small dam. I have 30+ years practice doing this. We have had a lot of third party brand lines available here over the years, but I have learnt to stick with Stihl or similar high level brand line in high capacity rolls and buy a year in advance of needing it so that it has time to "mature". I normally get about 2 years form a 1KG roll (2.2 pounds) if I let it mature, so at the end of a roll it would be about three years since purchase. I find that even the premium brands can be brittle if used soon after purchase, but work well once matured.

@glennnickey3160 2 роки тому

Used to fly model airplanes with nylon props. We would boil them first, then keep them wrapped in damp cloth and plastic film to retain moisture. Once they aged for 2-3 years the color would change from milky white to a yellowish color and hold up better without breaking.

@dwaynet2184 Рік тому

I found getting rid of the cutter blade on the gard that keeps the line cut at a precise length helps so much. The longer line helps with pulling out the line and with longer line you do not need max rpms to do a lot of heavy cutting. Getting to keep the rpms way down is so much more pleasant on your ears and neighbors or customers. And I have 200 ft of ditch I take care in front of my house so I turn my edger on its side to keep the Ditches shape and it works great and cleans it to the dirt very easily. And having the really long line helps with my 265 ft of chain link fence , the longer line and lower rpms means I do not break it near as much. After I got used to the longer line , I removed my gard all together and just make sure I move from left to right or it will spray the daylights out of your legs. I can do my entire property with 265 ft of chain link fence inside and out, 200 feet of ditch to the dirt , around my house and portable building in about 30 mins and I'm 58 yrs old . So it really helps my ears and my time. But I did learn something today , I never heard about the water soaking so I will add that to my list , thanks.

@gwarlow 10 місяців тому

@dwaynet2184 I only have an electric trimmer and still use hearing protection. I can’t imagine using a gas unit without some kind of noise protection. The over the ears type is excellent. Cheers.

@robbieanderson4674 5 місяців тому

You give great advice and great repair techniques videos! Thank you from an old guy that keeps watching and repairing his stuff that he keeps running (and running well) thanks to you! Rob

@Jasha333 2 роки тому

I run a commercial lawn company I use about 10-15lbs of trimmer line per year. Iv noticed that echo black diamond cuts better than their regular orange trimmer line. It tends to be slightly more brittle but cuts grass much better. I use black diamond for weekly maintenance and thick grass, and .105 orange line for more of brush clearing or tall weeds as it does not break as easily. Just my experience and thoughts. Good tip on soaking in water if it's gotten brittle

@barryestell6324 Рік тому

Barry Estell Please try STENS 380-924 , its .105 its called Silver Streak RAZOR . Works and last GREAT

@rodshore2242 Рік тому

Found same thing with Black Diamond, it lasted about the same time on the head but in my opinion it cuts much better.

@prf5139 Рік тому

I have a Milwaukee trimmer, and of course, they recommend you use their trimmer line. As it turns that line is amazing. My property is surrounded by a rock and wrought iron fence, so lots of rough edges. The gauge is .095 and I can't believe how long it lasts. I have a lot of edging to do every week, and I only use 20 feet per season. Go Milwaukee!

@murraysmith7569 11 місяців тому

I was looking for someone that thinks the Milwaukee line was good I've tried a number of lines and had no where as good of luck with them.

@TheDickstorm 7 місяців тому

In 2003, I bought a Stihl FS 75 (I think). Anyway, a year later I bought a spool of Stihl .095 line. It had to be around 50 miles worth. To make a long story short, it lasted twenty years, literally. I just used it all. Wish I would of known it could be re-hydrated. Live and learn. Thanks for the tip and the great channel!

@hirkojs Рік тому

Great Video ! It’s nice to see someone else with my sentiments on tri/quad edged trimmer lines not being as effective as round lines

@buzztoole4751 2 роки тому

Good video and advice. Good to know about keeping it hydrated. I usually use it up well before it gets old though. I believe the Speedfeed head is best ever developed. I've found that spraying the inside of the head and spool occasionally with some silicone lubricant will keep the head cleaner and working smoother but if you leave line that's been sprayed with silicone in the head like over the weekend that line will be more brittle and weakened so silicone spray seems good for the head but not the line. I've tried about every kind of line I think and used many thousands feet of it. To me the Shakespeare Ugly line gets the most done for the money, seems to hold up the best against concrete and asphalt curbs. I'll remember to splash a little water on the spool occasionally. Probably sweat!

@JS-rv3et Рік тому

i have a rhino tuff hybrid head can load plastic blades or has 3 swivel joints for quick loading pre cut strings. with a decent string you pre cut some strips ahead of time and you can load em in seconds. i can do a whole yard with 6. 9 inch or so strips. ill never go back to a spool head again always drives my BP up trying to fidget with them damn things

@michaelduckworth6127 Рік тому

One more reason for trimmer line breakage: Running at full throttle and hitting against concrete walkways will heat the string where it exits the eyelet and weaken it until it breaks off at that point.

@bowman321123 8 місяців тому

I saw in the manual for my new Stihl to soak the cord before using it, but this is the first time I've heard why...thanks!

@mike393000 18 днів тому

Im revisiting this pot after seeing it like 18 months to two years ago. I have a speedfeed on a ryobi electric 40v. It keeps jamming up and the line breaking off after I started using .105 line today. Im now soaking all the .105 I have but noticed the .095 line was round and all this other 105 stuff is twisted or edged... I ran out of .095. Ill bet this is the cause of the trouble. The trimmer seems to have plenty of power so I think its the edged line. When I watched this video 2 years ago I missed the ending part about the round line... thanks for still being here for me!!

@jomama01 2 роки тому

What a GREAT TIP! Hate to admit I've been tossing perfectly good line for no reason... . Also thanks for the heads up on replacing OE heads with the Speed Feed units - haven't had the issues that I did with the original (Stihl Auto-Cut 25) one.

@Chickanic 2 роки тому

You're not the only one! Everyone throws it away. Glad I could help!

@johnlincicum6390 2 роки тому

@@Chickanic Shakespeare Ugly Line is the best string I have found and that's what that 3 LB spool of yellow triangle shaped line is.

@efrenvenegas3346 2 роки тому

I dont throw my lines alway cause line its not cheap

@rlenoxIII 2 роки тому

I bought one after her last video on the speed feed head, what a great unit! Wish I had known about it sooner

@dalewiley9208 Рік тому

As a homeowner, I can tell you that Black Diamond Trimmer Line is the best I have ever used. It cuts cleanly, reduces head wobble and is very durable, even up against concrete. When I first read about this product I thought, 'Right, just another BS claim to sell trimmer line'. But the very first time I used it I was sold. I can't speak to the experience of commercial users. But for residential use it is exceptional.

@defan2105 6 днів тому

I found this video to be very informative...I love learning things from younger people..."you are never too old to learn"

@user-ue5wd3hl7o 7 місяців тому

I had my trimmer wire for about seven years, and yes it started to break continuously, I put it in water for a few days, and it hasn’t snapped since, great tip, thanks.

@joshuacampbell9990 2 роки тому

On the comparison of round line to different style lines, I’ve found square line is what works best for us. I work for the local school system and with the many hats I wear as a maintenance worker, I’m over the lawncare equipment. Back when I first started me and another guy bought line for our trimmers and he was a die hard red round line guy, I decided to try Oregon Square Gaterline. We started on a bank at the same time and it is very thick weeds/grass and we all hated trimming it because it is steep and time consuming. I was flying up the hill compared to my coworker so he stopped me mid hill and asked for my weed eater. He made a few swipes, saw how quick he was able to clear an area, handed my trimmer back, and proceeded to walk off the bank unspooling his machine and getting my string. Through the years I’ve tried different brands, cut style, and the like but I haven’t found anything that cuts as well as the Oregon in price, speed of cut, and longevity for what we do.

@matthewb7049 2 роки тому

I got the Stihl 2.4 square stuff . Got it spooled up. And haven't even had a chance to try it. I hope I have as good of luck as you with your square stuff. I got it inside. In my tool box actually. Where it's dry and warm. And feels pretty elastic still

@randallsmerna384 2 роки тому

@@matthewb7049 You don't want it dry and warm... Did you not watch the video?

@stevenmark8156 2 роки тому

Sounds convincing to me. I know which string I’ll be buying next. Thanks for the info.

@matthewb7049 2 роки тому

@@randallsmerna384 It's trimmer wire. I'm not going to lose sleep over if my trimmer wire is brittle or Not. Materials have come along way in 10 years. All these people saying there 10 year old recycled Pepsi bottle trimmer wire from wall mart is brittle well no duhh.

@dreamshop6071 2 роки тому

@@matthewb7049 Actually it is still nylon and nylon has always been hygroscopic.

@crusinscamp 2 роки тому

Yup. When I was a young technician, I came in to work and there was a tray of Nylon wire ties soaking in water. That seemed strange. It was dry, winter time, and one of the engineers explained. The Nylon wire ties were breaking as soon as they were installed and tightened. Nylon is a plastic that is particularly hydroscopic. Extended exposure to dry winter air desiccated the Nylon, drying it out. The percentage of water Nylon absorbs controls it's toughness / brittleness. After soaking (overnight if I recall correctly), the Nylon wire ties installed fine. One other thing about Nylon, I think others have pointed it out. Most Nylon is sensitive to ultraviolet (UV) light, like in sunlight. The sunlight cross-links the Nylon molecules and embrittles the plastic. It does take time, but it is NOT reversible. There are Nylons that are UV resistant, but in general, don't store Nylon in direct sunlight. Hanging on a pegboard in direct sunlight would be bad. On a shelf, out of the sunshine is much better.

@paulg3336 Рік тому

UV *breaks* the cross-links as well as causing other molecular changes and causes weakening of the plastic .This happens to all plastics and is suppress by the addition of UV stabilisers . Some liquid resins are designed to cross-link when exposed to UV (dental resin for instance)

@newmdog2005 11 місяців тому

I've been using .105 cyclone trimmer line with a speed feed 450 head, my experience it does pretty good compared to others ESPECIALLY against chain link fence

@jammerwv 8 місяців тому

Thank you! Good info! Stihl dealer told me years ago to store my plastic cutter fingers in water but I never put the connection of the string together. I’ve definitely experienced brittle line. Even large line.

@drcoffee5588 Рік тому

Good info start to finish. Thank you. I never thought about trimmer line absorbing water but it has to to be biodegradable. I will be soaking my line before installing from now on. And edged line, no doubt the center shaft is smaller. My echo line gets eaten up in just two trimmings. I am going back to round. I got sucked into the gimmick.

@solutions4691 9 місяців тому

As a farmer I have used all types of trimmer line, however using the echo Black Diamond trimmer line does make a big difference when you are using it in the fields/orchards trying to cut thick woody weeds. The Black Diamond line will go through the woody weeds like butter, while the round line takes more effort and a longer time to cut through and throws more debris. However you are correct when using it to edge your lawn, save your money. I hope you will stock and recommend the Black Diamond line in bulk for though of us using trimmer line in orchard or clearing lots/acreage where the weeds are tall, thick, and woody. It will save you time, money and cleanup in the long run.

@LowDoughShow 10 місяців тому

You had me at Trimmer Line! I was so frustrated yesterday with my line breaking off inside the spool and basically welding itself together. Right after morning meditation, I'm throwing mine in a bucket.

@sierragrey7910 Рік тому

Wish I knew this years ago. Went through tons of line on my rural property for fire control each spring-a whole week of all-day trimming. Used a variety of line brands. Tried the fancy shapes but never saw enough difference. A ended up buying large spools of the best-priced name brand. I found that trimming got easier when I saw the line as a cheap expendable. How you fill the spool and advancing the line habitually saved me tons of time. Using 10% more line used can prevent having to stop for a broken line. It is also easier on the metal eyelets to prevent them from forming a groove. Well worth the time and sweat.

@kevinhnlee7414 2 роки тому

I have tried all the shapes of trimmer line. But realistically once you begin trimming the line’s ends wear down quickly so I agree the round makes the best sense. Thanks

@motehopper Рік тому

Plus have you noticed the line Echo puts in the Speed Feed to get you started? Round

@marksmith4346 8 місяців тому

I accidentally bought that 135 string and I love it...doesn't fit the grooves in the head of the trimmer but you can thread it in. The trimmer is a Husqvarna 525 so it spins it with no issues but it lasts a long time. I have a lot of lake front with a lot of brush along the edge that the mower can't get to so I have a dedicated string and dedicated blade trimmer.

@franktuckwell196 2 дні тому

When gardening (UK), in the 1970s/80s, we would often run out of trimmer line, but one year, having run out i used some old two core lighting cable. Lasted about six times longer, sorted. Anything tougher and i just took trimmer line off and put the brush cutter instead.

@johnfilce9236 2 роки тому

Excellent summary! I've tried the different shaped line thinking it would have a "cutting edge". I cannot tell the difference and what really matters to me over many hours of use is durability and feed ability. I just don't want to stop and fuss with it very often when I am roaming over four acres and cutting in rough terrain.

@petersack5074 2 роки тому

NO POINTED TRUTH, EVER SAID. fuss with that stuff......good one ! My xperiences, Xactly.......I have several spinheads. loaded up. When needed, just take oneoff, put oneon.........

@leethomas8839 2 роки тому

Use a .155 line in a good stihl

@laserflexr6321 Рік тому

@@leethomas8839 And stay away from cable tv and telephone lines, garden hoses, vinyl siding, park your car around the corner and watch a couple youtube vids on how to change out a window pane. Above all wear a face shield when you get out the GIANT line. I used some of that in a Robin NB-26 with a manual feed head and you could eat your way through any size green tree. Ease in and grind away. I used that when I had to go through a lot of saplings and 8 foot tall weeds. Man that was violent! It will launch gravel like bullets! I think you could stand in a gravel driveway, rev up and in one swipe take out every window on one side of a house. LOL You will have bruised shins. I got a Stihl KM-94r (awesome machine) and use a sickle bar attatchment on it for saplings and vines now. Much faster and does not sling poison ivy everywhere like a line does. I use the cleaner/lube about every 15 minutes and that sickle has lasted for years so far, way longer than I expected the way I have been abusing it. It will cut up to about 3/4 inch green or 5/8 seasoned wood. Bad thing with a sickle bar is that it will cut barbed or chain link wire. I run it at part throttle so it does not cut the wire or ding the blade too bad. It will ding the blade but the blade will survive and keep on cutting. It does not cut fine grass so well, line would be way faster for that. When I finally do wear this one out I will get the shorter version that has the guard on the end. I dont know that I will like the guard but the hedger is pretty heavy and awkward.

@donaldflammia7055 9 місяців тому

I like all the good information you and everyone else share. You know the saying give and take, what works for you. For straight arm trimmers I beleive using round string. Smooth all around with string size 1.05. Together with ( just learning ) putting it into water to hydrant. Now the bigest help I have found it spray WD40 into the feeder holes. Don't be cheep, spray it and every time you re-string it. You'al know when your hot and its hot out working you want everything to go smooth. 😅

@tonym6920 2 роки тому

Thanks for sharing your expertise! I’m a homeowner and I use Echo trimmers exclusively, their 225 and 225L, curved shaft. I have found that the .80 breaks too fast when edging so I changed to the .95. It works a lot better, the trimmers push it very well, not feeling any loss of power. I tried the Black Diamond, it cuts clean and does a great job, lasts a lot longer when edging.👍👍

@rickvia8435 Рік тому

I didn't know they made line .80" and .95". Man that's some THICK line.

@gregorylubbers8533 Рік тому

I use the Black Diamond in .105

@delseckora5327 2 роки тому

Great content as always. I have one additional tip. When using a bump feed type head bump more often so that the trimmer line doesn't get so close to the head. The line does develop heat and when it is short or close to the head it transfers that heat into the spool and causes it to fuse together in the spool.

@kirkthebeerslinger 2 роки тому

Plus the trimmer does the best job when the string is at the proper length... IMHO -taking the guard off to have more string is a bad idea for a few reasons - 1 safety, 2 the longer string can bog the unit down-fouling up the exhaust/spark arrester...3. doesn't perform optimally - the manufacturer tests their equipment and designed it to be 17 or 18 inches for a reason...if it performed better at 22" they would have made it that way...

@Lovinflyindrones2022 2 роки тому

@@kirkthebeerslinger I totally agree

@juliangrenon-grekin5954 2 роки тому

I only buy echo trimmer with high torque with and not to heavy a string. That being said you are right about exhaust bogging down. I usually take it off and clean the gunk twice a year either way to keep it running smooth because you go through less string and do less damage when touching anything. I've never kept a guard on.

@MrMambott 2 роки тому

Great advice @Del Seckora

@MrMambott 2 роки тому

@@kirkthebeerslinger I tried a length ( the right Length ) of push bike brake cable wire in a industrial whipper Snipper when I was 'Stihl' learning common sense and she went into an insane speed wobble and damn near tore my arms off. Lesson Learned 🤣🤣

@CHOOSEPEACENOTWAR 10 місяців тому

YOU GO GIRL! I"M SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GLAD I RAN ACROSS YOUR VIDEO! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE!😁😁😁😁😁😁

@RogerParmelee-vb3tf 11 місяців тому

Hi , I'm Roger , this is my first time watching one of Your videos and I have to say that I was really impressed with Your knowledge of the subject (trimmer line) and the honesty You showed at the possible expense being reprimanded by a Company You are affiliated with in business!! And the concept of the line getting brittle over time and Your solution of soaking it in water to "rehydrate" it and giving it a second life make SO much sense as does You argument for the superiority of round vs shaped line. Thanks for that information, not only did I give it a like , I subscribed to Your site.

@CraigShuman 2 роки тому

Thanks for the tip, I'll be soaking my line this week since drying out is a real thing here in the Valley of the Sun Arizona. I don't know how many rolls I have thrown out because they kept snapping off.

@mgeldy7153 2 роки тому

I’ve worked in high end lawn maintenance, and tried quite a few different styles of string. For the average user round line will work fine, but if you wanna crisp clean cut on your edges the twisted string makes a difference.

@mtnmotoadv 2 роки тому

I've been in business for over 4 years now and I've tried quite a few different types of line. I saw another youtuber suggest Black Vortex and I tried it out and I've been really impressed with it and have used it for 2 years now. it just seems to last forever. As long as you don't hit any fences or pavement you rarely have to bump. A 3lbs spool can last me nearly a year

@dreamshop6071 2 роки тому

I switched to twisted several years ago because the star and square cut very good but they wear the head eyelets a lot.

@super20dan 8 місяців тому

black diamond is awesume stuff, it cuts faster than most other line. i mow for a living so i know what works and what dosnt

@markbellingham4536 Рік тому

Lovely information you leave school and that’s when information stops but this is a new level. ❤️

@papafrank7094 Рік тому

Don't forget that trimmer line acts just like 3d filament. Store it in a dark place such as a light proof cardboard box which will stop the UV rays from causing the plastic to become brittle.

@phillipware9681 Рік тому

Good idea! Most plastic does. 👍

@MrTheHillfolk Рік тому

I keep it in my wine cellar, next to the grey poupon. 😁

@lonniekennedy6130 2 роки тому

Yah know, I learn something every time I watch you! I’m my own yard man and you answer questions I never even thought to ask. Moreover, if something did foul up I usually just started crying and took it to the shop. You have helped me regain my masculinity without chemicals! Thanks so much!

@randymccumsey6922 2 роки тому

Or testicle tanning.

@valeriemckay7064 2 роки тому

You made this old girl laugh, your wife is a lucky woman.

@MrMambott Рік тому

She is smart hey even old dogs can learn new tricks even from Chicks lol

@joncunningham6807 Рік тому

55 year old plumber that owns my own company for 30 years. I plumb, farm, weld, fabrication, ect. I use small engines alot. I'm the type of person that picks up a saw or other and go. 100 mph. I'm a diehard Stahl fan. That being said, I love your site. Thank you for all your help.

@ironblast5 Рік тому

Got the Echo speed feed 500 head on my Stihl km91r with the carriage bolt mod and I drilled it out and use lo noize 130 gauge trimmer line this setup is near bomb proof I can run it all week on one spool doing edging and trimming on concrete and blacktop it's amazing.

@jordangutierrez8935 2 роки тому

People who don't trim a lot will say there is no differences in the shape or size of the line. If you're only weedeating residential yards every week-2weeks you won't see as big of a difference in the performance of round line vs black diamond for example. Once you get into tall and dense growth, stuff that has grown longer than 2-3 weeks, you will be able to tell a noticeable difference in performance. Black diamond line or any similarly designed twisted line will perform noticably better in taller and denser growth. I just think it's bad advice to say that round line is all you need. For most people, round line will work fine, but for people who are actually weedeating tall and thick growth for hours and hours on end, you may want to recommend some of the twisted lines for those select few.

@jonesey1981 2 роки тому

100% agree. Solo lawn guy here and black Diamond 105 is all I use.

@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 2 роки тому

Is Black Diamond your favorite? Have you tried any Oregon brand trimmer lines? I have only used round line so I have no experience.

@jordangutierrez8935 2 роки тому

@@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 I have used Oregon line. Oregon line works well, just not as good as the black diamond from echo. Lowe's sells ugly twist line that is very comparable to the black diamond.

@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 2 роки тому

@@jordangutierrez8935 Thanks. I didn't know Ugly twist was made by Shakespeare. I have never used Black diamond so I appreciate your review.

@DaveMustang74 2 роки тому

I lucked into buying Black Diamond when I bought a new Echo. I'll never buy anything different.

@SteveShatto Рік тому

In most cases I agree that round line is as good as any other. However, I bought a house recently that had several areas of English ivy that was overgrown and needed to be removed. The vines were very wiry so I went ahead and got the Black Diamond line and it out performed the round line.