Most of us didn't need a video to reach that conclusion

You are so clever

Are you slow 😢

@@eddiebendigo7317 OP probably had that conclusion earlier and communicated in that commenct that now he/she is sure. there's no need for trying to boost your ego by trying to demean someone under their neutral comment. if you agree with the OP you should be happy that there are more people like you now. otherwise you can push them away from getting to the truth. unless you want to.

I know the planet is heating up faster than it ever has but surely there's animals and other life forms that will thrive on the warmer climate

Liberals will say "hey it helps the animals, why stop?"

@@efhino…

@@efhi Please stop giving the gun-toting open carry nutjob televangelists any more ammunition.

@@efhispeak for yourself

​@@efhi Stop linking things that have nothing to do with politics to politics. You are making yourself look bad.

The reason that single-use items are replaced reusable is that they are more profitable - corporations externalize the cost of the waste generated to the environment, governments, and public. I have found the root cause to much of the worlds problems are neoliberalism (aka Reaganomics) and corporate control of government.

The problem is a culture disposability, not plastics themselves. Plastics were originally intended for use as long term reusable or durable items such as lunchboxes or telephones. A modern example would be a fridge, tough and sturdy and have a lifespan of 10-15 years; or perhaps my gaming laptop, mostly tough plastic but I don't plan on throwing it away anytime soon. In fact despite the plastic bag being invented in 1960, it wasn't used widely until after a conference in 1985 by the Society of Plastic Engineers, where a single speaker pointed out that using plastic bags would save money over paper bags. Remember that it also costs energy and pollution to make hard metal objects. For sturdy durable items intended for long term use, using plastic can actually be better for the environment than other materials. Likewise glass is an excellent material for reuse and can be recycled indefinitely, but in many countries glass goes directly to landfill and as a result glass production makes 86M tonnes of CO2 a year. Once again the problem is not glass, but a culture of disposability.

From a medical perspective, new plastic syringes have wayy less 'psychological' chance of disease transmission vs reusable blunt glass/metal syringes....

Let’s go back to glass wax, wood and metals. Save plastic for the medical field

Glass is better for health and environment than plastic

Waterworld

This is important for our culture and survival, someone get on this

Oceanpunk? Now there's an interesting subgenre of sci-fi right next to solarpunk :3

@@NathanDudani I was thinking more futuristic. Like Waterworld 50-100 years in the future where prosperity has returned somewhat.

@@Echo81Rumple83 Yeah I was thinking about if it should be a subgenre of solarpunk or not be too concerned with sustainability. It probably would be more interesting to have a solarpunk faction and a non-solarpunk faction at odds with each other. Like they are constantly fighting over whaling, seabed mining, fossil fuels etc.. Then you have corpos monopolizing space. But you can't escape the planet because of Kessler syndrome, space debris making it impractical to send anything into space. You can only send stuff down to earth in heavily armored droppods. Elon Musk's 3rd clone dropped a bunch of water rich asteroids and comets on Earth and that's why everything is under water lmao. Probably over a dispute with the SEC or something. Then you'd probably have the "landers" that try to rebuild all the continents, but with rafts. Initially they mass produce them and just let them randomly float around, which pisses off everyone else because it makes it impossible and dangerous to navigate. And then there's the transhumans trying to adapt to aquatic life by splicing their genes with whales or something. And also AI has enabled us to talk to whales and they turn out to be much smarter but less industrious than us. They just came to the conclusion that the meaning of life is literally just vibing. And it turns out they are generally just uncooperative jerks (at least the orcas), constantly messing with people they have no respect for. The whaling also doesn't help with their attitude. Then there's militant human whale activists that try to arm the whales lmao. And also after learning how to bring back mammoths, they brought back a bunch of different animals like mosasaurs and megalodons by splicing whatever fossilized proteins they could sequence into existing animals. Because why not.

there are other animals that live in Chernobyl like dogs, deer and other small animals

@@PedroHenrique-hv4sj Yeah. Cancer rates and other health issues in the area's animal populations is still substantially higher than in other areas, so it's not like it's a great place for them individually. But while humans would find that sort of scenario intolerable, the relative protection of the area means net population growth for a lot of species. Not so great for birds though.

@@Dandelion_Stitches cancer isn't usually a problem for animals with rather short lifespans, especially prey animals that might get eaten by predators within a year after they're born. Its only generally a problem for longer living creatures like humans who end up building up a high amount of cancer cells that would become a problem later in life.

Don’t forget! Fungi are like humans; they actually “breathe “ in oxygen whereas all of plants “breathe” in carbon dioxide 😊 Fungi is a class of their own. Without them, we wouldn’t have had a chance to exist

@@Dandelion_Stitches If I'm not wrong, I think Chernobyl is actually quite good for animals, as the cancer rarely effects them, and the absence of humans just let them be alone

In past we thought about "grey goo" apocalypse. Now we have a possibility to witness what happens when you have plastic eating antibiotic resistant bacteria in a world where plastic is everywhere and antibiotics are main line of defence.

plastic rust

My guess is that it will be a hinderance to tech, but should not be an apocalyptic scenario. Remember, there was once a time when lignin could not be digested by bacteria. That's how we ended up with coal. But then bacteria developped the ability to digest it. It did not result in an ecological disaster. I expect this to go the same way.

definitly takes more research

Worst case scenario we'll have to abandon plastic and go back to stuff like wood, cardboard, metal, glass and ceramics. Economically devastating but not insurmountable.@@theguyfromsaturn

wonderful game with an intricate ecosystem

@@kittycatdays8719 indeed

Thats exactly what i was thinking

why do people keep making the games name 1 word

Leviathans are biomechanical monsters that uh just take one chomp and ur dead

Beautifully said

Legendary comment , starting marine biology/zoology this year !

Shut up.

Just remember pay is 40k with a biology degree

This is like the nicest thing anyone has ever said ❤

kind of like the creatures living in/around hydrothermal vents- its an environment that seems completely hostile to life, yet there’s an entire ecosystem

you got it right the idea of giving up kinda crazy to me

I think plastic enters the ocean faster than we can clean it up. Cleaning up must continue.

except even then it's not that simple, considering paper is primarily made from trees, and deforestation is (of course) also a massive environmental issue. not that we're completely doomed, or that there's no other way - it'll just take a lot of careful navigation and radical change.

There are already species that do that However we are yet to find a species to handle eco-friendly paper straws. Yes. Those are more toxic and less degradable than these, and worse than the paper bags we replaced with the plastic bags. Yes. Our ‘green government’ followed the science and replaced paper bags with plastic bags. Then replaced plastic bags with something worse.

There are actually already already some varieties of marine bacteria that can metabolize types of plastics.

That would be terrible. Imagine world where bacteria eat plastics like nothing.

@@rinrin4711Hopefully by then we wont be as reliant on them.

​@@Broniathimagine these bacteria getting into a supermarket or hospital. It would be chaos.

because jellyfish are everywhere and near unaffected by what we have done

Given enough time, yes. But it probably takes AT LEAST a few centuries for the food web to develop to that degree, if not millennia.

@@KrazyKaiser if the garbage patch (and humanity) remain until that time, i imagine we'll face an even greater dilemma

@@GeoffryGifari Atleast now with this new info I can start flush my plastic in the toilet

I think the biodiversity of the garbage patches has been understated due to the focus of "These things were here before, and plastics are simply intruding into their space." The two big things that the plastic does for the life out there is two fold: A surface and shade, this allows for a lot of life to exist out in the middle of the ocean that otherwise becomes impossible. The shade actually attracts fish to area, and when you have fish you things that hunt the fish and you go from there.

@@rahn45 do you think plastic's resemblance to jellyfish can be beneficial to the jellyfish?

Maybe they 'sting' if they have recent venom on their skin from their pray.

I think it's preposterous to even consider not cleaning up the trash in the ocean, overall it's harmful and needs to be removed, although it's cool that life can adapt to live there

In a neoliberal society it will only be used to halt all efforts

And so dangerous

I agree, her voice is soothing to the 👂🏿

you are weird

That giant island of trash is a tragedy

As an Englishman these comments made me smile. Then cry.

That is traditional stupidity, we know we have survived thousands of years without farming, logically we should not plant grains and stay a hunter gatherer species. We know that slavery was incredibly beneficial, or at least relatively beneficial, for us, we don't know if our society-slavery will be as beneficial to us, logically we should maintain slavery. I'm not suggesting plastic in the ocean is good, I'm all for cleaning up and aiming for our impact on the planet to be zero, but just that is a bad argument for setting policies.

@@TheOmegaXicorSlavery is the antithesis of “best for humanity”??? Unless you exclude the slaves from your definition of humanity, which is… yikes. And I don’t even know where you were going with your first point.

13:50

It’s a colloquial term for New Zealand

​@@brady1045nah, you foul for that, you either an aussie or a new zealander, because no way in hell any non australian think about NZ randomly😂

@@youtubebannedme lol I’m american

@@brady1045 nuh uh, have a g'day tho m8

@@brady1045 Nooooo! I moved to and lived in NZ for 4~ years before coming to AUS back in 2001. I will always have a soft spot for my Auckland homies :>

I appreciate that, too. Though I do have to wonder why no one seems to have suggested that the reason only 1% of the estimated plastic has been found is because the estimate might be *wrong.*

Except for the recent attacks on our boats. They are tired of our shit.

I think they have been attacking boats in a particular area off the coast of Spain. As far as I remember, it was only one particular pod; I haven't come across any information to suggest the habit of 'attacking humans' is spreading from one pod to another. I would imagine these attacks come as a result from that particular pod being attacked by humans at some point in the past, or the Orcas within it have observed humans taking an unreasonable amount of prey from the sea (but I favour the first point as being the most likely). Orcas are not just social creatures, as you mentioned, they are (as I'm sure you would agree) incredibly intelligent, and if they were a land animal - would be giving us apes a run for our money! I don't think they would attack humans for no good reason. At some point, one of their own has been hurt, or killed, or a boatload of Spanish fishermen have tried to drive the pod away from their favourite fishing grounds. (There are a few videos on this platform showing fishermen being exceptionally and unnecessarily cruel to sea creatures. There is a deeply unpleasant one of Asians brutally attacking Giant Mantas). ...To demonstrate the possibility of sea animals holding 'grudges:' Some time ago, I read an old book written by an American author (forget his name now), who undertook a motorbike journey through a mostly uninhabited region of Baja California to see the Grey Whales. At that time, Grey Whales were known to be aggressive, and had frequently attacked boats of all types. They had even killed a number of humans (and did indeed kill the author's guide at a later date). The author himself suggested that this behaviour was in response to whaling activities, which had ceased not long before. Nowadays, Grey Whales are much calmer in the presence of human vessels and have been known to appeal for their help if a member of their school is caught in nets, etc. So they have obviously come to understand that we no longer hunt them and are more likely to help instead.

Are you serious? This boat smashing aggression counts.

@@debbiehenri345 intelligence is correlated to violence. Animals aren’t peaceful and wise. They’re hungry and enjoy beating up weaker things. Like us.

There have been studies that show Orcas follow trends and fads of their own make. I came across something a while back discussing how one member of a pod was swimming with a fish on its head and over the next several months, most of the rest of the pod was doing it before they lost interest. There's a possibility that going after boats may be another fad, but there seems to be no real consensus on how certain experts are on that.

That's incredibly ignorant of you to compare anti-nuclear people to anti-plastic people. Removing plastic is overall a positive thing, especially ghost gear and preventing microplastics from being released. The fact that you called them knee-jerk is astounding

​@@anactualfingbottleofranch747if the shoe fits

It is in fact already happening, animals and bacteria are being found that digest simpler plastic types. Difference is that there’s hundreds more types of plastics than there are tree cellulose arrangements. But evolution will move as fast as extinctions do, so the more destruction humanity causes without fully wiping out ecosystems, the faster we’ll see equal responses from nature.

@@suruxstrawde8322 That's wishful thinking. Usually the extinction happens first, then in the next millions of years evolution pops up with new ideas that take advantage of the new resources

@@suruxstrawde8322 it at minimum takes eons for these thing to happen, you all forget how long these things will take. The problem is humanity lasting long enough in our current iteration. A massive die off of our species is when things would be able to stabilize.

I agree with you. The same thing happened with oxygen, at first a waste material. Life finds a way.

gay polar bears beg to differ

Which doesn't change anything about it being a good thing to reduce single use plastics...

@@eran3161 Europe and North America make up such a small percentage of ocean trash. Unless you can get china and India to stop polluting too it’ll only be a token gesture to make suburban moms and low T men feel better about themselves.