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Goddamit I lost the race to get the pinned comment

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Banger

I literally had to pause like…..shit man. At 16 I was breaking down in the school bathroom bc I got a bad grade. I couldn’t have handled that comment then (or even now at 22 for that matter). But it’s like, the fact that she was so stoic about it is so heartbreaking ugh

Dude,i got shivers there,and my eyes are teary just imagining how i wouldve felt if i were her

Fr when I was a teen I was dealing with early symptoms of depression I cant imagine hatred coming from strangers, when I didn't even like myself

Yeah I remember when that UKposts channel predicted her death back in march and that channel had actually predicted some ppls deaths before and was right so ppl were certain Charli was gonna die on that date. And I checked the comments and ppl were so happy that she was gonna die? And when she didn't they were disappointed

This is what so many people in these comments don't seem to get. Like, yeah charli isn't a destitute starving child in some warzone, but daily death threats and hate and parental pressure are part of HER reality and it's hard for HER. It would be fucking hard for me too if any of that happened to me now as a full adult.

Exactly my feeling and I also think that maybe if they had left it alone and left Charli and Dixie to continue making tiktoks with dances and things without the pressure of a music career, books, brand deals and Hulu tv shows (????) then maybe the girls (because they are children) wouldn’t face such pressure. Obviously there would be some pressure with such a large audience and some may argue that they want to do these things but seeing how stressed and emotionally tired they are sort of suggests this isn’t the case and they’re being told they want to do these things by management bought for them by their parents. I don’t know if this tv show was the best idea given the bad light it’s put their parents under.

there are actually scenes in the last couple episodes where heidi calls the guy who plans charli's calendar to clear up a week so that she can have a break, so that charli can improve on her mental health. so yes, her parents do have an impact however her parents do still care about her and stuff

@@jazzh8211 one week, after planning a whole year jam packed with stuff that is overwhelming her and honestly we don’t know she even wants. Sure a break is good, but going a week without anything then diving back to an overpacked schedule won’t help. She needs to remove some of that weight, not just take the entire weight off for a week only to pack it all back on after that. Granted I don’t know these people, none of us do but I wonder if they’ve ever really sat down with their daughters and asked if they want to do all of this, what exactly they want and to reassure there is not pressure for them to continue this just to pay the bills because that should NEVER be the child’s responsibility.

Money can turn any angel to the most disobedient demon. EXTREMELY few parents would be like: "We don't need that money, all we need is you". Especially not in a country like the US.

That happens as often than you think, heck when 80s pop star Tiffany’s career took off she talked about how her stepfather gleefully quit his job because she was the breadwinner in the family

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It's also the idea of if your kid has the chance to do something they "like at the start" that makes them enough money they won't ever have to worry and possible a career they enjoy. A lot of parents would think if I was my kid I'd want my parent to push me to do this cause it's the best "chance" in life for them to make it. Not saying it's okay for parents to do such things, but it's more understandable when you think about it.

I don't care if my child makes millions I will not put them in the position of breadwinner responsible for our financial situation. I don't care if they're 40, make three times my pay, and live in a mansion, when they see me I'm going to slip $10 into their pocket and packing them leftovers because in my heart they'll always be my baby.

Yeah seriously. I've never watched anything that any of them have ever been on or made but I get the sense from headlines and commentary like this that the parents are completely sucked in to the girls' fame and haven't stopped to think about the fact that their kids are kids. They're not full grown adults with autonomy and complete critical thinking skills. The girls deserve a say and to make choices on their own but at the same time, they can't possible see how bad this in full. I don't think the parents evil but definitely neglectful

They aren’t reliant on their teenager……

the point flew over your head

@@mysticshroom pls make me understand the point i have difficulty comprehending things so i missed the point too

w Charles samelion moment

@@justsomegirlwithamustache6840 like the point is not whether that's badass or not. She got so famous that people are even predicting her death, dont u realize how sick that is especially for a teenager ?

@@Mary-fo2uv ohh true😦

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yeah the more I think about it like...it's unethical. It never really goes well. Like you're literally still developing your identity and literal brain yet held to a standard where people look up to you and expect you to be perfect

agreed

It's horrible that they bought that huge mansion when they financially depend on kids to pay it off. They definitely bit off more than they could chew.

Exactly. The fact that they could've just let their kids be kids and let them deal with the fame in their own way (Charli could've sought out brand deals/sponsors on her own, or she might not have wanted to do other things at all and is content with making tiktoks), but instead they started immediately capitalizing off of it, knowing their kids would probably heed their advice because they're the parents. At a certain point, what is the line between letting your kids have fun on tiktok and forcing them to do brand deals/make tiktoks in order to support your family financially? It's just such a stupid decision regardless.

@@meixuanler3535 the worst part is that the parents joined tiktok when they saw that their two kids had millions of followers. You can tell that the parents only care about money and retiring early.

Yeah, they’re the adults they should know better. Put the money in trust accounts and IRAs, maybe invest some of it. Also they should probably do a better job of establishing boundaries with, and protecting the girls from, the managers and other show biz parasites. Idk their life but the parents’ choices don’t look great

same

Same

Yeah KUWTK is a way better and funnier show, no wonder their billionaire’s

Haha ya I don't know who said that but it was hilarious.

@@strawberyyicecreamdream216 kourtney said it

I loved the way you wrote it.

their isn’t much they can do the called off meetings dixie is grown they don’t have control over her and charli is 17 and they can’t help her unless charli can communicate what she needs

Probably the parents aren't prepared for all of this either. I agree and would do the same that you said, but I have some sort of understanding on social media branding because I'm gen z, they don't and even if they hire people to educate them on that to help their daughters, they'll probably gaslight them into keep exploiting their kids.

@@melisacaceres8740 the point about the parents being not prepared is spot on 👏 yea people blame them but you're right, they're probably just as clueless and confused

@@veesaos8316 still, seeing their children breaking down from stress constantly and still doing nothing about, sounds abit strange

Also some fairly relevant perspective. Drew probably dealt with a lot of this (one a much smaller scale) being propelled to Vine fame at, what... 20? 21? Dude sounds like he is empathizing from very real experience.

nevertheless still true

are you new here lol

cough cough, the lily sign and jaystation video

It’s still true though.

GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear co

lol communist sharks

@@AxxLAfriku here, have some attention, don’t worry it’s free since you keep begging for it

well hopefully their multi million dollar fortune can pay for some therapy sheesh

@@LordOfDhara they do go to therapy already, they have been before being famous. It’s not their fault they have money, go blame the little kids making them that way. And you.

@@user-lt1nw2hr6m i really wish we started giving more of a fuck about teenage mental health (mental health in general) more. i don't believe anybody should be floating on the top when there are people chained to the bottom, but mental health can hit anyone and everyone at any time

@@gordonramsayslambsauce You mean like, recognizing privilege inherent in the mental health system where someone as wealthy as the D'Amelios have access to resources the average person, and especially those below the poverty line, will never have? Well, maybe you don't mean that, I mean you think mental _health_ hitting someone is a _bad_ thing.

@@user-lt1nw2hr6m Possibly, but it's also possible that the deluge of people around her pushing her to do more more more prevents that from really being an option. Imagine if your family's entire well-being hinged on you doing something that you despise. I mean fuck, dude, just listen to what Drew said in his "My second take" section again. He covers it pretty damned well. Have a little compassion.

@@alphazero924 compassion for whom? They are rich and famous, live luxurious lives, hang around with the elites, despite the lack of talent and hard work. And you expect mere mortals like me to show compassion, to say "aww feel so sorry for her". Ridiculous.

@@nikolas8203 Compassion for the child. She's not Musk or Zuckerberg. She's a kid who got swept up in the latest sensation and is now the breadwinner of her entire family and the lynchpin of their wealth. She has to feel an insane amount of pressure to keep going with something maybe she doesn't even enjoy just for the fact that it's what's gotten them this far, and if she stops then it all comes crumbling down. Do you know how bad that is for an actual literal child's psychology?

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3 of the writers had the same idea for the sad lyric I guess

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honestly i would prefer if she wrote them lol at least she has an excuse for her lyrics to be bad, can’t say that about the writers lol.

Bc she is an empty person. Too young, not enough life experience. Have to find herself...

Hit the nail on the head! I actually feel bad for them. Paying the mortgage on a 14 million dollar house as a teenager? What happens when the money dries up?

@@amandafaries5474 I’m not saying it will happen, but a lot of the time with child hood celebs, drugs and crippling debt

The parents are so greedy to put their children through this. Wtf would they buy such expensive house and why would they hire such demanding managers? And the fact that they inserted themselves into these reality shows? Let your daughters live their lives a little. Its not healthy, the parents are not being parents

Yeah, that parents seem so willing to hedge their lives on their child's success is mindboggling.

@@amandafaries5474 Blows my mind how so many people who run into money don't do what it takes to ensure that money grows in the future. Even in my dumb 25 year old head, the second I ran into money I immediately started thinking how to ensure the money can be multiplied and maybe one day take care of my future children. Nobody knows how long the money will last, so why not take the steps to make it generational if you can?

They even said they don't know how to help them, like maybe put the camera away? It's honestly sad.

@@shisexee what they mean is they don't know how to help them without risking losing all the perks

This! My mom would never film while I'm freaking out, ever. If people were filming me my mom would lose it

not enough attention is being brought to the parents. This entire thing is the fault of their greed for money and fame. They are some of the fakest parents I've ever seen.

@@tayaelb56 It was almost certainly their idea to move into a house worth millions of dollars

Nice

Drew actually is very cool.

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you worded this so well i feel like cynical content is so popular especially when the target is young girls who still have so much to learn, its so nice to see him analyzing their circumstances instead of just hating

@@Hi-vr3kd i want to empathise with the fact that they are young and stuff but if they were young enough to know what works online and they managed to continue going viral after a few initial lucky hits..they shouldve known the consequences too, i mean theyre not innocent teenagers picked up and put into some maze that hates them, they chose the path of least resistance, they chose becoming ultra rich and they agreed and signed contracts with managers and companies to do xyz things so how can they complain abt it when its entirely their choice? this is where i draw the line, if someone innocent getting 100-300k views suddenly blows up and gets like 10-12 mil views and that video gets hate its understandable that they werent ready for it, but if someone continuesly gets that views and tries to go with it and blows up and then complains about it then lol i dont feel a thing for them.

idk man~ id say that empathy has been killed :3 i personaly dont feel anything, nah, i even enjoy when i see my schoolmates panic and beg for notes, because they didnt do shit entire year and now they gon flunk outta uni ^^

Dont think it's just his "empathy" people are praising. Drew is very intelligent and has a great way of articulating how he relates to the sisters struggles but also relates to the audience as well, and ends up seeming very down to earth. Not easy to do.

@@ejsafara456 bait

Empathy is hard to find on the internet these days when it comes to content about internet celebrities. There’s always a huge divide where they’re either seen as godsend idols or spoiled brats and not much in between. In this landscape where Charli and Dixie are constantly demonised just because people find them annoying, Drew offering an empathetic, objective perspective is rare. It’s easy to make fun of the sisters at their expense, and other commentary channels would take that easy route. Drew is not doing anything revolutionary, but it feels like he is in the current state of internet culture.

@@ejsafara456 bait

Yeah that video is actually so sad

fuck, this also makes me think of the “i don’t do my makeup everyday” vid and now i feel really bad for laughing at that and the memes that people made of that

That doesn’t make any sense. She can go to college and get her degree without ever having to step in a frat party. I mean I get she’s a kid, and that what a kid first thinks of college = parties. Smh

I don't know anything about them, but I do see these sisters pop up sometimes and holy shit I thought Dixie was the younger sister and they were both like 15 or 17. But your comment made me Google and one of them is 20???

@@MrJonathon08 yeah, everyone made fun of her for saying it but she had a couple other reasons too

For sure. If they wanted to do a reality TV series, they could wait until everyone is an adult and the star of the show has lost popularity. If she's making money now, then that's fine and she can have some of the stress without having it all dumped at once.

@@whyisblue923taken yeah but if they’re more famous it makes more moneyyyy.

their dad gave me a lot of red flags while watching this show...... like a lot.....

Drew likes to dance sometimes?

And if they did, they shouldn't be making that decision. They're children.

Tbf in general people often buy houses that cost more than their income. Not talking about this situation tho

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Right. If they had 8MM$ at some point it would've been a much saner choice to buy a 1MM$ house upfront. I don't think this family has enough experience being rich to be getting into debt like that, not to mention the fact that the money isn't coming from a steady source

⁠@@anaisabelribeiro2721good point that the whole family definitely wasn’t ready for that level of wealth, and going the route of living below their collective means would’ve been a lot healthier it’s sad to see kids struggle with parents who really don’t seem to get it and aren’t equipped to parent incredibly famous children

It makes me wonder if the parents are making money off of the girls at their expense.

Like, the best you can do as a parent in that situation is put that stuff in the child's savings and continue life as normal.

Welcome To Britney Spears life give it couple yrs and they will End up in court trying to get control of the money again and wanting to live there own lives it’s sad but it’s coming

Bet they are. Didn’t the parents move them out to LA after Charlie got famous? LA is a cesspool

agreed, I think the damelios parents are way more involved and trying then other parents but I don’t think they should’ve agreed to move to LA

this is so depressing

thats so stressful for a teenager

dang that’s so true, i never thought about that…

Im a 16 yr old business owner, nowhere near her success but I get that and its extremely stressful

The only reasons jobs depend on the girls is because the parents signed contracts for them. No contracts, no obligations.

And even then I'd be iffy about it, given these days and times

I could be A list but bitch when i disappear y'all aint go find me.

there was a comedian who said that he wanted to be the drummer from coldplay. You get to do what you love, be rich and successful. But i dare anyone to name each member of coldplay off the top of your head right now.

Or maybe being the guy in the middle of a bobsled team

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Drew is a good bloke and he always has a thoughtful take 👍

How was it bait? It was straight forward from the start

@Neenpu Manus what are you talking about? I'm 25 and can't go somewhere without someone talking about or making a tiktoo

@@jjs8426 The thumbnail and the title make it seems like he's about to laugh and make fun of it like most commentary channels.

Not toxic alle!?

Her parents were thinking: Yes kiddo. Keep crying. Give this show more popularity.

honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.

well theyre conservatives so

It's a clip that shouldn't even exist in the first place, they shouldn't have even recorded it. She was breaking down and they put it on film. That's gross

To them, they've become so detached from their children because of the fame that they basically have a thought process that boils down to "Oh no, the paycheck is having a breakdown."

Not exclusively children, but other than that, yeah. I totally get being upset that they got popular while being talentless, that’s fine, that’s genuine, fair criticism, but anything past that is just harassment and sickening to see

I remember getting into an argument with a friend about Rebecca Black right after that song came out. I found the song really annoying but I thought the hate she was getting was too much, my friend was like, "nah, fuck that girl, she recorded the song she deserves what she gets." and I'm like, "...she's like, thirteen. Did you never do anything embarrassing and annoying when you were thirteen?" I am so goddamn glad social media didn't really exist until I was like thirteen or so and I wasn't allowed to get any sort of account until I was fifteen.

@@yaboicolleen ew, "she deserves what she gets" hope you dropped that friend soon after

@@superfan364 took me a couple years but yeah, we're not on speaking terms anymore

i agree ebby!!

Our boy Eddy here spitting facts, HOW IS HE NOT VERIFIED ON TWITTER!?

Apey Silverback?

Hi Luigi San

Bebby

It’s a lot harder than it looks and some of what happens behind the scenes shouldn’t be allowed

it’s fucked. it’s genuinely fucked. could go on for hours, but i think this is a pretty relevant quote that applies to the situation. “The devil doesn’t come to you in a red cape and horns, he comes to you with everything you ever wished for and dreamed of.”

They did fifth harmony wrong as well, all of those three bands under Simon cowell were put through a lot

Say hi to the k-pop industry

@Anjali I believe it varies from company to company

@Anjali well at the end of the day CEO decides everything

He genuinely seems like a good person tbh

The show is bad

"Easy route"

I agree entirely

It’s good

Nah still don't like them

@@mewesquirrel6720 shut up man

@@rivert132 no thanks

I wish ppl would consider how they stole from black creatives more and how they didn’t do anything after they got called out on it but I don’t HATE them for it. I definitely don’t like them for it tho.

@@genoswest7253 they could have helped them but they didn't. They're greedy

Hell yeah, lets get her up to those 400 - 500 kg. That'll show the girls what to aspire to!

@@casperryborg4869 your body naturally changes as you get over you’re not going to have the same body you did at 16 when you’re 25 I’m not saying she should gain weight I’m saying having millions of people scrutinize and criticize your body during such a vulnerable and tumultuous time in your life is bound to have a negative effect on someone

And this first reply, everyone, is an excellent example of a false dilemma/slippery slope

@@casperryborg4869excellent example of a (poorly written) logical fallacy! You’re not only wrong but extremely transparent about your attempt to manipulate. Classy

Her weight was never even a trope 🤦‍♀️ Stop making everything about weight. She's not even that thin. Being a healthy weight is good, you know.

I wouldn’t care I’d have money for life

​@@JakeYolk bait

i have 0 sympathy for ppl who complain about their own consequences. if they complained about hate comments from tik tok i would understand, its something they cant control but having to deal with contracts and projects is their problem, they signed up for more money and as micheal scott says "mo money mo problems" i cant side with them if theyre being greedy and agreeing to more things thatn they can handle

Their parents are definitely exploiting them for money. This is unethical for a show.

I thought exactly the same. Spot on. If my kid earned that much I'd put at least half of it away in a trust fund and I'd let them do their thing. Apparently 20+ millions are not enough, we always need *more*.

Can you really blame them tho? We commonly consider that kind of lifestyle as a dream and, with them being an ordinary family before fame, I'm sure they did as well so when they saw the possibility of getting that kind of lifestyle they did bad choices for their kids, but it's not like they did it purposefully, they were probably overwhelmed by the situation as well

@@kevinlocatelli1721 Im not a person worth millions, but I sure as hell wouldn't be as financially irresponsible to the point my daughter needs to do all this random stuff at once only to support my unrealistic lifestyle. But that's just me. And besides, it's *her* money. It doesn't belong to them

@@Bucktel if you put away half of 20 million dollars you'd still have 10 million dollars

@@garronjohnson483 Right. And if you have 10 mill you'd spend them all for a house? I doubt it. Even a 1.5mil house would be way more than enough

she should go to a psychiatrist, therapists are variable and most of them suck ass. I bounced from 2 therapists until I finally went to a psychiatrist who was way more expensive but honestly, the best decision i ever made

@@hi2978 agree

@@hi2978 I swear psychiatrist don’t perform therapy, they diagnose and prescribe medication

To touch on the psychologist vs psychiatrist debate- if you have the means, see both regularly. Psychologists in a general sense are there to hear you out and help you work through your issues in practical ways, psychiatrists are there to prescribe medication if/when they deem fit. Both avenues are helpful when working through mental and emotional issues. Similar to how physical therapy and pain medication help people get heal a broken bone.

@@swand1383 nope some counseling centers have psychiatrists

I feel so bad for the sisters! I can only imagine how thier mental health will get damaged by the fame and hate

They're not exploiting them, there's probably a pressure on both girls to rack that money in without having their parents tell them anything. Just the fact that they see their parents happy makes them go through this. Is it good? HELL NO, are they old enough to realize it? HELL NO, does it take away from the parents' responsability? HELL NO. But don't forget that money makes the world go round and in North America (the root of capitalism), it certainely doesn't help. It's more of a "most parents would do this", not just hers, many, many famous children's parents were exploited be it with intent or not.

The parents aren't the ones exploiting the children here. The flock of vultu- I mean, _managers_ circling around the family are. They're very good at convincing parents that this is all best for their children; meanwhile, the managers care only as much as said children are profitable.

@@TheLastEgg08 Exactly this! It's one of the most pernicious things about capitalism - it ends up being the reason for a lot of really, really bad things, but unless one knows to look for it, it's not there

@@RaptieFeathers Didn't they just buy a 14mil mansion on their kids though.

damn wait that’s so sad

Fr super unprofessional

That therapist should be fired or quit her job straight up

Ew what

It’s unprofessional, but I can see why she did that.

By parents, I think you mean, the sisters, since they are the primary form of income it seems.

@@phabiorules I think the parents manage their money. Aren’t they underage?

@@tobybartlett no lmao only charlie. dixie is 20

@@hannalowercase5928 Ahh. I don’t follow them so I didn’t know how old they are.

Or just make basic good parenting decisions like let your kids be kids, don’t over-expose them to the public, and don’t make them the bread winners of the family. Therapists aren’t miracle workers.

I don't actually think it's baffling. If Drew didn't point this out, a lot of people wouldn't think so. Conceptual connection is a difficult thing, and I think we should appreciate how pensive he is being.

I'm pretty sure that TikTok kids are less likely to be molested by adults compared to Hollywood

@@johannesstephanusroos4969 you’re missing the point completely

@@johannesstephanusroos4969 did you watch the video deaf and blind?

@@user-yj7cu5sk2w None of you have addressed my point either, and no

Underrated asf. Also proof you can hide from the spotlight

The children are the famous people here though.

Gigi and Zayn does this and I honestly have so much respect for that decision

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The parents hired the agents. The agents are just the buffer vehicle for the authority the parents can’t execute themselves otherwise it would completely ruin their parent/ child relationship, Dixie and Charlie would see them as their bosses. 14 million dollar home and only one way to pay for it. The parents get to have their cake (money made from the success of their children) and eat it too (maintain stable relationships)

Exactly what I was thinking. In Dixies case, she is old enough to make her own decisions. But Charlie is still young. It's such a horrible thing to make your child feel pressured to slave work because their parents quit their jobs.

i think its their fault for even thinking of profiting off of their kids in the first place, they should've just put all the money into the kid's savings.

@@ammaarah867 nah bruh dixie is still way too young to make any life altering decisions

@@mothman4672 the parents basically are their bosses because in the end they have the authority over their child's career and life. they're terrible parents, and bosses.

His jaystation video was kinda like this

if only they could see this video... i guess...

@@fantax1280 they probably think it’s a hate video tbh

Hello refreshing

@@cutemissbubbly the thumbnail kinda makes it seem like that

@@cutemissbubbly Wait, I thought this was The Good Place?

@Ssilnah well said! If i had the oppertunity to make millions

@JSB calling someone narcissistic just because they make content that is not your taste. You are just a pretentious snob. If you hate them, DON'T WATCH IT. Shocking right! I don't like Tiktok so you know what I do? I don't even bother watching it. So self important that you thought everyone will make content that you will enjoy.

It's called the price of fame. Everything in life has its pros and cons. With the money she has made she can comfortably retire and live a "normal" life, but instead she (and the people close to her) decided she should strive to milk the proverbial cow for all she can take, thus in turn giving her stress and other goodies.

i’ve seen too many tik toks of ppl filming them in public without their knowledge

@@dismantledbrain5910 didn't you hear the part about how she's a teenagers who's under a lot of pressure and in front of millions of people? is not easy to just retire or choose to get away from the spotlight in a situation like that

Its so weird to hate people for being privledged... you litterally just hate them cus they have more than you, its just so weirddddd, i hate the internet, everybody makes everything about themselves

they ARE just privileged Tik-Tok white girls lmfao.

Regardless of their privilege, they don't have to suffer to be used by their own loved ones - the ones who who should 'support' them regardless instead of sucking up from their daughters.

@@gzzelle4177 well, you and they are gotta deal with it at some point. Last time I don't like people who were complaining everything they want to complain, and now I'm looking back seeing myself as a hypocrite.

@@gzzelle4177 they never said they hated them?

What is " wall"

@@aloowalia2849 "Hit the wall" is a metaphorical phrase

But they will take the money

@@aloowalia2849 sounding like Eleven from Stranger Things

@@johnnydamn3923 LMFAOOO

"child labor" they make tiktok dances and got their own show? they aren't being made to work in a salt mine or stitch shoes. her anxiety is clearly caused by being on an online space, not her parents or anyone pressuring her. i saw no evidence of anyone pressuring her to do anything while watching the show. she's 17 years old and people are acting like she doesn't have the mental capacity to choose things for herself lmfao. legally she's a child but i'm sure she has the brainpower to say yes and no to things. child labor is Ryans Toy Reviews because he is literally too young to realize what he's doing. Charli isn't so i don't get why people are acting like she's being forced to make content. everyone has detractors and online haters and that can and will affect someone's mental state. it's awful and shouldn't happen but i struggle to see how this in any way is child labor. child labor infers some sort of physical or mental labor that is taxing on the child. the only mentally taxing thing to Charli is online trolls and that isn't anyones fault. the only physically taxing thing is actually doing the dances. i just honestly don't get the pity party for famous people simply for being famous. fame comes with hate and pressure. it always has

i also don't see how Charli is being exploited. she has a manager, does he just force her to take show deals without asking her? probably not lol. she no doubt has a say in any projects she does and any videos she puts online. and i can't find any online evidence that her family or managers have taken advantage of her by stealing money or charging exorbitant fees. so i really don't see how she's being exploited. i'm sure Charli has more agency in her own career than you all are making it seem

absolutely i feel like if not for the pressure of their parents they wouldn't have continued doing social media or they would've at least took it easy... its clear that the parents want the fame too (maybe even more than dixie and charli) i mean making a whole reality show about the family? feels like they're trying to benefit off of their children's fame🤷‍♀️

@@inyrui I started out disagreeing and ending up somewhat agreeing 😂 But one thing I'd like to say is, you have to see that she didn't ask for this lifestyle at the beginning. But now she has made certain commitments (like to her audience, her future prospects, brand deals and all) which she can't just drop. She's in the situation where she can say no to stuff but that would lead to missing potentially good opportunities. Like what if as Dree said, she's earning for the family now? Isn't she feeling obligated to continue to do so? This is mentally taxing job. Child labour.

@@inyrui drew went over all this in the video. There are people that have literally planned out years of their lives for them. They may feel bad about turning anything down because they’re scared to let their family down or go broke. So now we have kids with zero free time, people always telling them what to do, and a bunch of people hating them for no reason. Of course having all of this happening while being rich is nowhere near the worse situation going on right now. But that doesn’t mean you can’t feel any empathy for them

And it's messed up that any kid should be put in the position where they have to answer the question of what they value more, their mental and emotional health, or their future financial situation, and have their parents shove them towards the money. That's the most heartbreaking part, that it's so obviously not a situation where the kids are following their passion and the adults in their lives are just following their lead and supporting them however they can. The adults are pushing this and the kids are just like "I don't really feel comfortable with this, but you're authority figures in my life who I trust so I guess I'll go along with it".

the dad was (idk if he still is) bringing in a lot of money for their family. before Charli blew up they lived in a big house and Charli went to a good school plus dixie was on her way to college I think. if the parents had any sympathy for their children they would tell them to just stop posting.... they'll be fine without it. Charli has made enough money to support herself for a long time. fame is not worth their mental health

I also feel like charli wants to delete all her accounts but her parents is stoping her.

Taking them out of the situation would probably just create more drama leading to worse anxiety and poorer mental health. the parents deciding to cut them off from the world all of a sudden would probably upset the girls and the fans and their friends and the media and really wouldn’t be productive at all. There really isn’t a solution, especially not one that’s achievable by their parents since you can’t undo fame and they’re probably already under so many contracts. And I don’t think charli or Dixie wants to quit since they have so many benefits and opportunities so if their parents forced them to that would also take a toll on their mental health and probably wouldn’t help it at all. Also in the series they do seem pretty concerned with the amount of work their children are doing and I’m pretty sure charli and Dixie offered to help pay for the house since they say that the parents never really wanted to move to LA in the first place but charli and Dixie figured out the logistics and begged them to until they said yes

It took Charli having a complete breakdown for her dad to cancel meetings/events for a couple of days. I feel awful for her

Oh Jesus calm down. It’s a reality show these girls are happy and rich. They create drama for the show. You’re blind as can be

Best we can do is spam this link to them

I’m being sarcastic btw

me too, they both need to hear this

Yesss

Their agents definitely don’t want them to see this.

absolutely horrible "so how do you feel about your 2021" more like "so how do you feel about the 2021 I made to make money regardless of your well-being". Hate it so much... its the mentality of: as long as your alive your fine and if your fine you make money. If you have time to cry you have time to make money. absolutely disgusting.

Charli's**

They did to Charli 🥺 CHARLI -god she’s a minor…

It’s fucking horrifying, and this kind of sudden fame has been documented to lead to severe addiction issues in later life. Fucking Drew Barrymore was a coke addict at 8 years old.

I would love someone to plan money making opportunities for my year like she shows up gets her make up done and gets a check no sympathy.

About the adults playing teens discourse. People also argue that a lot of these shows just misrepresent teens' lives while making the underage characters do some really questionable stuff. If Hollywood wants to see younger people get it on so bad they could just make the characters college age. They just choose not to for some reasons.

@@annanguessan-ble6488 absolutely, I would much rather watch some college show than highschool... But maybe we will get there eventually lol

I don’t think there’s a problem if there’s a healthy balance of both being a kid while being an actor, but that’s almost not heard of anymore.

I agree, but most people say that their *portrayal* of teenage life is wrong So much party, drugs and bs which happens rarely in reality. (side note : I like k drama for this reason. The whole story revolve only about chemistry and bonding of characters. Subtle and beautiful storyline)

idk i don't think there's anything wrong w having teenagers casted in movies or tv shows about teenagers lol,, it'd be kind of weird if none were

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I think Hollywood culture tends to ruin a lot of child fame. Daniel Radcliffe was a child star, but he ended up fine because he got famous outside of that child star sphere

Exactly!!! No child deserves to have that many eyes on them, that's why young popular youtubers stress me out so much

@@maseoembry4165 Daniel Radcliffe got lucky because the Harry Potter series was shot in England. The people around him also made sure he had a proper childhood, or at least as normal as a child star can have. He didn't become a brand or a product, and in his adulthood he has a proper acting career. I think being far from the toxic LA child star culture was incredibly beneficial for him and the other Harry Potter child stars.

@@maseoembry4165 He still became an alcoholic at a very young age due to the stress of being famous and filming such popular movies.

They ain't kids, they're teens. And they put themselves in those circumstances to begin with.

i feel ya

This many likes and no comments??

@@SnorlaxWhisperer I see one

That got me good ☠️

too bad most other commentary is going to be "these people do nothing and this show is stupid😠"

Drew gooden is very fast

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Omg it's so strange to see one of my favorite cartoon commentary youtubers on the creator of youtubes channel

Smh

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Exactly

tbf he also has the least subscribers, and is also right in the middle of the list

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i think charli is really genuine though. in all of her tiktoks she wears basic teenager girl clothes, where as when the kardashians were 17 they were having blow out sweet sixteen, multiple cars, and was wearing over the top expensive clothes. kim even shadowed Paris Hilton just to be able to live a life like her. charli really does seem genuine, honestly, i feel bad for them. like not BAD BAD, but i watched the show and it feels like they were forced to make this show. and if not forced, it seemed like they were forced to really force out their problems as “drama” on the shows, and on the show i can see their actual stress that they have, and in one of the last episodes charli really touches on the hate that she gets, like she’s 17 and gets so much hate for just doing dances. charli really seems like she’s smart and she’s genuine. she doesn’t go around wearing gucci and all this shit, she seems down to earth. i really do, (ik this is stereotypical), but i think it’s the parents fault. when Dixie was having a mental breakdown the parents was more concerned ab the show than her. i think 100% of the cringe stuff and the things that no one likes is the managers and the parents fault, and charli is only 17, she’s 100%. like the haters are so stupid, all of her hate comments are either saying “it’s okay you can take down ur BLM profile picture” which, if she didn’t care ab BLM SHE WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT THAT, she’s only 17, she can support movements, and that she can’t dance and she does tiktok dances, but she’s been doing completive dances since she was 4. like she gets more hate than fucking Zoe Laverne who dated a 13 year old and got preggo by a trump supporter, and the other self obsessed tiktok stars. like it’s really sad.

@@thatssoari3533 "100% of the cringe is her parents and managers fault" most people think her content itself is cringe. like the dancing itself is really cringy. i don't think her parents or managers make her do those tiktoks

this is a perfect synopsis of the video thank you!

@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw Okay and your point is??

@@thatssoari3533 What does society hate? Teenage girls What happens when a teenage girl ends up blowing up on tiktok? She gets targeted hate, plus the other stuff in her life. And she is a good dancer, so much so I think she honestly does tik tok dances for fun. Because it's rather easy compared to competitive dance. I wish her parents cared enough to see the impact it is having on her though. Teenagers should not be famous. It just wrecks your mental health and I'm pretty sure she already needs therapy. Like being 17. Seeing so many people be angry that you're not dead? You dont get out of something like that unscathed.

Exactly! I’ve watched my 3 kids navigate social media, and the second they start comparing themselves to others, or hating themselves because of what others say, or even hyping themselves because of how many likes and positive comments they get, I explain how FUCKING STUPID it is to let other people, mostly strangers, dictate how you feel. Then I’m like, hey y’all each find a recipe and go to the store and get the ingredients and let’s put on some music and cook a meal and dance together. Social media is intended to give us good recipes, not self esteem. Cause fuck everybody, you do you. NO “SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE”, at least not til you know what you want to be like.

@@TheRadiostar72 "Social media is intended to give us good recipes" i really like this. social media for kids shouldn't be completely demonized or controlled, but they shouldn't be allowed to get so absorbed in the worst parts of it

@@TheRadiostar72 you sound like a wonderful parent

@@TheRadiostar72 you are truly a wonderful parent. Ty for making this world a better place for people👊

@@TheRadiostar72 Love that xD. Your right. What good recipes have you found online? I'm always looking for more lol.

Ngl her new song psycho is actually good. I think she improved a lot.

my thoughts exactly!!

No Rebecca literally looks normal

RB voice is average and she doesn't exactly have a singing career after all that

Its a rare path, to have your sanity at the end of. Childhood fame will literally mess up your sense or self, worth, reality, and relationships, at the very least. A lot goes into a show like this on top of those other binders they will have to do.

This is one of the best parts about him and his channels. He'll totally roast douchecanoes, but he can pull out the seriousness and compassion when it's called for. So many commentary channels miss the second part and end up being cruel to people who don't deserve it.

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Aptly said. That's why we stan a funny, empathic and a logical king. 👑 🛐

Well said!

I'm glad he didn't choose to be yet another hater bashing them cause it's so very easy to do, he choose to be understanding.

Yes exactly, we all know what has been happening to child stars for decades. Sometimes it doesn't end well, sometimes it does but after many years of avoiding the spotlight and healing. There is no fame at a young age without struggle and trauma.

Thank you! When did parents stop being parents??? My siblings and me got some recommendations to be child models and stuff like that when we were little, my parents only took my younger brother once (because we asked for it 😬) saw that he wasn't really into it and never took him there again, I didn't really understand before, I was like 'but why didn't you take me? We could have more money now!' but I think all along they just wanted us to be regular kids and do nothing most of the time 😅

I agree with most of the stuff except for the age really. I think most young people have at least now a solid grasp of mental health. I would say if you aren’t old enough to drive, you shouldn’t be famous. I know with the fully developed brain thing, but tbh I also know plenty of people who are older than 25 the don’t even know the full ramifications of their actions. I would say it has to do more with parenting. One example is Shawn Mendes, dude got pretty famous pretty young and turned out fine, not to say he didn’t struggle, cause I don’t know if he did. I would definitely say it’s not necessarily always an age thing (depending on the age) but more of a lifestyle thing, plenty of adults wouldn’t know how to properly handle being famous.

this is extremely well worded. Thank you for your opinions. One thing about lorde I would like to add, is that in her recent album she talks about being a popstar while being a teen (california) and then now that shes finally taking the route to heal up from her immediate fame and pressure, people are starting to hate on her. They are upset that she's no longer providing them comfort from her songs and upset that shes taking a more satirical view on things. I just wanted to say this, thank you for listening (reading) and thank you for sharing your opinions op o7

@@jacobherrera8735 I see your point for sure, but let’s take the driving example. Teenage drivers have the highest level of accidents and risk-taking behaviour on the road, which is why they are required to have higher insurance rates than most people. Brain development is a large part in that risk-taking behaviour. So, when you’re that young and your brain physically cannot have a grasp on itself, it’s a little more dangerous for it to take on the high amounts of stress involved in being busy and being held to such a high level of scrutiny. Like other trauma that induces higher cortisol levels (for example, adultification due to absentee or abusive parents), later down the line that can cause depression/anxiety, alcoholism, post-traumatic stress, etc. You’re right in that plenty of adults would not handle fame well, but that’s less about neural connectivity than it is about personality, life circumstances, childhood trauma and the nuances that come with more life lived.

i swear i have seen you in the comment section of every video ive watched for the past 2 hours

Literally I would hate life

As a college student that has no idea what to do with my life. not going to lie I kinda just a want someone to tell me what to do.

especially when youre like 15, it's insane

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Nice to see you here!

Exactly!

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honestly- i can’t think of anything *more* horrifying and their ages. if my failures during adolescence were broadcast to hundreds of millions of people, it would ruin me mentally for a very *very* long time.

very true and shes just doing it in fromt of thousands of people i feel bad

Plus she probably has a bunch of people on her team kissing up to her and lying to her about how good the songs are cuz they know it'll make money either way, then she goes on the internet to see millions of people hating on what she was (probably) told was an amazing song by the people closest to her. The trust issues I would get...

She would be much better off lead singing for band that has completely ghost written songs tbh. She has a voice and an audience. Why waste time with terrible lyrics lol

Cant they just pay someone else to write a song for her and then have her sing it? I thought that is what a lot of singers do

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Agreed. That's why he's my favorite UKposts commentary channel

Well said!

You nailed it👌

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Fr that part looks straight up out of a nightmare. Isn't she still in school as well? Imagine all of that on top of school work.

must be hard getting all the works just because u dance-

@@xXInfinityDiesXx I do hope she finishes school and go to college so that way she has a back up plan if something were to ever happen. Sense I know some child stars do drop out of school.

@@shinobusfan7306 well yes, when you are literally one of the most famous people on this earth making 100x as much as any career would likely make you in a few years, it's pretty tempting to drop school and do THE THING that is making you millions of dollars

No its her own fault