its an extended tentacle of yet more to come plunder, exploitation and colonialism by the powers that should not be. one can only hope humans never get off this unfortunate rock

This is truly the ultimate form of taxpayer dollars. I know not much funding goes into NASA. But... Damn if I don't love what they do with the mere pennies they likely get from my tax deductions. If they put more funding into space and education I think I'd be so happy to put money into their programs.

:)

@@stagdragon3978 Plus… we (that is, the wealthy folks who run everything) get a good return on investment of tax dollars since technological innovations turn into profit-making opportunities here on Earth.

The helicopter might be a better option long term but the solar panel design needs to be improved

Ditto

Wait till you hear about most humans thinking they are inherently good, gonna blow yer socks off

I wonder when we will get a jet ski over there?

I know rìght?

Absolutely! There's so little atmosphere to support flight. The thing had to be made out of lightest carbon composites. The speed of sound is even lower on Mars than on Earth, and you don't want blades go anywhere near supersonic. At the max design rotation rate of 2900 rpm = 48 rps, the tip of the blade moves at 0.75 Martian Mach. And look how big the blade airfoils are! This makes the coaxial counter-rotating rotors even less efficient, because of the larger overlap, but they had to trade a bit of efficiency for compactness. And still, the lift is so small, I'm really surprised it can lift its motor, battery and camera-dense things you won't make of carbon fiber or styrofoam no matter what-for 15 min of flight on end. Marvelously bizarre!

Or eye 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@terrafirma9328 the eye version would be a rock in the camera.

@@koharumi1 Okay, so maybe a fly stuck in your teeth ?.... Or, a piece of steak stuck in your throat. Or a chipped tooth, broken filling. Or....just...rocks in your head.(an American expression.)

Something stuck between its teeth, then?

@@mathmusicandlooks 😬😬😬😬😬🤣🤣🤣🤣

Double true! ;)

I hope their search for Spice is successful, that those core samples finally reveal some.

@@spacewolfcub if there were spice it is surely already mined out by the Pykes

Imagine just how operating blind scientists are really working on mars with communication relay time.

Stanley Kubrick was the director. Oh, and he didn’t really die in 1999. That was just a cover story so he could start training for the Mars mission. And Paul is dead.

It's my personal theory Mars was Eden. The Apple was the Atom. Hence why Mars us covered in a radioactive isotope that is only known to be produced during an atomic ignition..... We ruined Eden. Then we either transplanted or were transplanted. We of all creatures do not have circadian rhythm that fits Earth. Neither does it fit Mars, but if you account for slowing of planets and dividing the difference it appears to fit. Many scientists will say off record,abd few in record...it appears our dna was modified and not natural evolution. Perhaps we were slaves once... Or perhaps we we're gods once... Perplexing and thought provoking nevertheless....

Billions of years ago, Earth and Mars both had rivers. However Mars is too small and no longer has useful air or any water.

I have to admit, I feel a sense of regret and sadness when I think of Mars. It once had water, possibly rivers and lakes . It could have had life. If things had been just a bit different we could have had a sister planet with life of it’s own. We could have had Martians.

@@mikoto7693 you can watch cartoons.

@@mikoto7693 It would have been pretty incredible if life had evolved on Earth and Mars at the same time.

The drone is controlled by artificial intelligence like a Tesla car only better (hopefully lol). The really amazing thing is the rover transmits it all up to a Mars Satellite with a considerably higher power transmitter or talking to Perseverance would be like dial up on top of the six to twenty minutes signal lag depending on planetary positions. Satellites save a lot of space on the rover for other instruments besides a powerful transmitter.

@@MountainFisher Thx for the details! I knew it is AI controlled (also awesome), but i meant that you have no real way of correcting errors due to the signal delay. That must be nerve wrecking sometimes for the guys on earth, but they have to confident in their work. I hope they are proud!

@@deadralynx1288 I worked in aerospace starting in the 70s and the care put into just a satellite is astounding. Our tolerances were cut down so a simple bar that was plus or minus .010 inch (yes the shuttles were based on the inch) would be .003 or hand fitted with no tolerance to speak of. People wondered why they cost so much.

@@MountainFisher "Why they cost so much" ... The tech benefits of the space age are MRI and countless other technology that we take for granted now. The money we spend on fusion and space are a JOKE compared to weapons and playing power games with foreign politics. This makes me so angry, as you can clearly see how far we have come with the titan probe for example. Wild tangent here ;) - i recently rewatched apollo 13 and how that whole space mission was nothing but EXCEPTIONAL humans and calculations on PAPER to bring people to the moon. Someone said NASA's whole computing power was that of a 2005 flip phone. We have to reach for the stars or stay and fade into the cosmic night.

@@MountainFisher .... Would you explain what you mean by "tolerance"?

@@sirensynapse5603 I agree with you.

Brilliance.

It'll be a movie one day. Probably called Stowaway.

Nah, since the movie would last about two months, it would be extremely boring. I bet half the audience would have run out of popcorn and left by the end of the first week...

@@Quickened1 I don't disagree with you.

"They're rocks, Hank!" "Jesus Marie, they're minerals! How many times do I gotta tell you?!"

Ok Hank

I prefer extra virgin olivine in cooking. Cold pressed.

Important distinction indeed. Rocks are defined by their mechanism of formation (i.e. their geological origin), while minerals are defined by their chemical composition.

You seem to know your minerals. I suppose olivine is igneous. Is olivine a semiprecious stone? Are you a geologist or rock hound?

Especially after the solar panel failures of past missions I know this rover doesn't use them but them amount of accumulation should be an obvious problem by now

I think it's because every single step and movement is planned. It took them a full month to actually do something that seemed seamless and straightforward in this video.

I'm of two minds about a manned mission. The robots are already so advanced, and certainly beat humans in resilience in such a harsh environment. These robotic explorers roam the Martian surface for years on end. A manned mission would take a year to get there, and another to get back, in a high-rad environment. And people... you know, they eat all the time to stay alive, and quite a lot! Even with a space-tailored diet, 4-5 times the body weight per year. An average US food consumption by weight is about 12 times the body weight a year; you can reduce that below ×4 but the food will be disgusting, and astronauts would have to endure it for years. It would be an achievement to chalk up in the end, no question here, but... to what end, besides the very getting man on Mars? They'd do their sciencing with the same tools the robots already do. In your mind, what is that what humans could do on Mars that the robotic explorers cannot? I'm drawing a blank, as much as I want to think of something useful.

@@cykkm think of it as 'baby steps' vis a vis the colonisation of space.

​ @Cy "kkm" K'Nelson In hours they could do what takes months for the rovers, no need for a lag to take a decision, a human cna manipulate more easily and quickly the objects, they could explore faster and better as well. They can repair broken tools if needed, clean up too, one person would be able to do alot, so I imagine that a small team would be quite productive. As Attila Juhasz said before me, there's also the colony angle that will be observed with this mission. We could get some neat video recordings, audio and even have an idea of how the place smells, at least for those who will be going. They also will have the privilege of being the first humans on another planet.

@@cykkm This is a VERY common thing I hear btw, and tbf it has some merit in the short-term, although imo a Creation has never truly surpassed its Creator in every way. People will need to leave the planet for some reason or another. If they don't need to, they will anyway because that's who we are. So long as it's done safely and with as less waste as feasible, it's a worthwhile venture for NASA and the private sector to do.

​@@dylangtech It's hard to disagree, and, personally, I think this is what defines us, the humans. I can only quote Robert Sapolsky: “It strikes me as one of the most irrational, nutty, magnificent things we are capable of as a species: the more something cannot be, the more we have to make sure it is… The more clearly, irrefutably and arguably it's the case that you cannot make a difference, the more that must be the motivation to make a difference.” This is why I said I were of two minds about this. We have to do that, but today's technology is so feeble for such an endeavor. Are we ready to commit to such a project? How long will it take? Perhaps, with a firm commitment (meaning funding, of course), we can do it in 35-50 years. We can't pull such a feat with today's technology; we'll have to bet on the technology that will be developed for it. Can we hold on to it for such a long time, given the project will slip on the schedule many times, due to this uncertainty? It's a generation's project. Now, let's look at two currently active government-funded projects. JWST took 25 years from proposal to launch, and was nearly canceled-twice. Realistically, its cost and allotment for the next 5y, total $10B, is negligible compared to the US military budget; using $500B as DoD's average slice of the pizza in these 25+5 years, it's 0.07% in comparison. And we the people could hardly tolerate this expense, and that's for non-reasons, such as a momentary political gain. Will we stick to something at the very least 10-20 times more expensive for twice as many years? When the politics gets into the scientific and technological game, this is where I'm getting rather doubtful. So, enter the SLS (a.k.a Senate Launch System), which consumed $25B in 10 years already, and will be ready at teeny-tiny $4B+ per launch exactly by the time that figure will be ROTFL-high, assuming the SpaceX's Starship project won't hit an unlikely serious snag. And this thing gets a non-stop financing at nearly 10 times the yearly rate the JWST got. It won't be for nothing, certainly some new tech will come out of it, but it's certainly not rolling toward a thundering success... The comparison is discombobulating. Are we even _rational_ enough to keep our irrational, against-all-odds commitments? I only know we ought to be, but in fact am carefully pessimistic about it. Kinda sad.

Dust is so fine on Mars, and so ubiquitous, one o Would have to be resigned to the fact it is eventually going to get into every part of the rover. If only they had built the flying drone with a high pressure air sprayer gun that they could use to circle around it during slow times and blast it clean. .... Or, "Cleaner". If I had my way, they would have included a third auxiliary rover just to clean the other two, and maybe make some simple repairs.

Yeah they dont have a protective layer from meteors on Webb too lmao

@@TheNoiseySpectator Good idea and hey; maybe little drone buddy "can" fly over rover and blow it off. I dunno. We lost that other one cause it got covered in a storm and couldn't charge. Maybe.

@@shastatrinity9081 They void them well and the rover is only a few years comparing to ours. its not aging and the weather on mars is far more in Conflict with ours and helps the rover also ? strange not much happened as of when or yet it might be more Closer than we may think.

I've heard of a few proposals. I think SpaceX drew up plans for "MarsLink" but these haven't been funded yet. If I'm not mistaken, the best approach is to have comms sats stationed in orbits around Sun-Earth, or Mars-Earth Lagrange points (or both).

Good plan

we cannot leave the earth. space is not real.

The Internet cannot exist without satellites in space. So go outside since space, and ergo the Internet, doesn't exist, as you say

@@luisostasuc8135 99% of communication happens via terrestrial and undersea cables

Why? it´s just click bait topics with misleading names.. For example this video is called "Perseverance's Most Unexpected Discovery on Mars" But there was no discovery what so ever.

@@oneone8318 The discovery was of igneous rock, proving volcanism.

@@joelaut2605 pff. It was not interesting at all. Not finding it would have been More interesting

That's just Algerian Sahara...

Calm down, Hank

Calm down, Hank

Olivine crystals can also be found in meteorites, which makes me wonder if that sample is entirely native to Mars (I hope it is, though)

The presence of Olivine everywhere indicates a period of time of strong volcanism where most, if not all, Mar's water was mineralized.

A volcano on any planet can likely spit out a rock into space that could travel to another planet, so don't get too excited. Samples need to be taken from various spread out locations to determine how widespread it might be on Mars.

It's coming. I wanted a nice selection of images to talk about before I made the video. You're very kind to have waited this long though, I wasn't expecting people to do that.

yoo

Broom would scratch instruments

There are no solar panels. It's nuclear

@@crazywileycoyote there is air

The dust is electrostaticly charged. The rover is equipped with systems to remove dust but they are not 100% effective.

They are not designed and not expected to last this long. So the broom and air blowers is not a consideration in the design.

The air on Mars is 1/100th Earth surface pressure... EXTREMELY thin, so "blowing out anything" with such thin air is next to impossible. Later! OL J R :)

You can't have human explorers on mars if you want to find life. As soon as humans land on mars we have no clue if life came from mars or from the earth. Due to the bacteria and microorganisms that live in the human body.

Is there a reason for the saying?

@@Lemone_99 It's like wishing good luck in a different way.

I'm pretty sure, they thought about a million things that could go wrong. That was a 1 million and one. To see that they could even overcome that is a testament of ingenuity.

Engineering note to future NASA builders. Add a on board mini air compressor the robot can use to blow off dust😉

@@terrafirma9328 it will add to the weight and be quite situatational and run out of gas, its always a comprimize. I would advice some nimble and strong robot tools/fingers that can do some cleaning and maintainance

Spatula city...spatula city? spatula city!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!

Dealing with dust, dirt. rocks, and distance, making it so you could dump it out, should have been, a given. even if they never used it.

Before we decided to spend ourselves into oblivion on war... OL J R :)

The Romans came up with concrete with which modern civilization would be hard pressed to do without.

But yet humanity does regress at times as we see so often in the timeline of civilization and can only theorize has happened in times even farther back in our past. It’s part of the endless circle of time. What has come before will come again.What goes around will come around. Progress is not a continuum like space and is not even a constant but more an erratic series of jumps and false starts in which life span is not a factor.

Other factors come to play in technology such as feasibility, economics, need, etc.

They had a contest. Preseverence was named by Alexander Mather a middle-schooler from Burke, VA. Ingenuity was named via contest by Vaneeza Rupani, a high schooler from Tuscaloosa, AL.

@@blacksage2375 Ha... Kids can be SO clever . I say kids, coz am a grandma 🤣

Gandalf!!!!

It might be easier to digest in individual books. Its also not nessesary to finish all of the books because Frank Herbert died before he finished the series and the last two books are really a different (unfinished) story set in the same universe. Of the first 4 books, the first two are about one character, and the second two are about his son. And the first book really is unique in the series, nothing else really like it at all.

Nothing is "very" unique. The word means "like no other". A thing can't be VERY "like no other", nor MORE "like no other". It either is, or is not.

"So due to perspective of earthly experiences NASA assumed all rocks are hard." nope. we know earth rocks can age and become brittle over time as well. "The Earth is very unique " Now THERE'S an assumption.

So when seeing the nutrition pockets on mercury ... Hmmm... Ok. I am nerding out now!!! ...so hi. Im the East. Nice to meet you.. My question to you is... Ok my dad and I had a telepthic connection with Mars last year first week of June.. The passageway was supposed to be blocked but. There were rainbow vapors left behind. Its on Nasas databank on its website. So.. I just thought it was interesting we saw ufos got raided and then had a supernatural experience continuous with the atmosphere of Mars... Is there a reflective barrier maybe on Jupiter deflecting the ion harvesting? I'm Shatter Star. Nice to meet you. Your knowledge is refreshing.

They're minerals. Jesus Marie!

I love it! So cool 💚

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If anything it will be roachlike or ratlike or some form of tardigrades

Corn chips.

@@terrafirma9328 I will love to see what those look like

Why is your cat trying to defect? Unless you meant defecating.

@@projektkobra2247 nope I meant defecting : abandon one's country or cause in favour of an opposing one, in this case the cat was attempting to become a traitor.

@@dullaf4099 -That damn cat!!!!...

Sounds like the sequel to That Darn Cat.

@@dullaf4099 elaborate? traitorous cat? how / to who?

Needs charged gas of some type. To burst where cleaning is required...

Or a small can of pressurized nitrogen!

A lot of government programs are encouraged to spend money and not to be efficient. They already had a rover die because it couldn't clean its own solar panels.

@@zualapips1638 NASA accounted for opportunity to gather dust, which meant that they wanted for opportunity to only last 1 Earth year. They received eight instead, which would be a win in my books. A rover relying on a broom, or gas to clean off its panels would be an extra point of failure, which is why curiosity and perseverence is nuclear powered.

@@zualapips1638 Exactly

Hum... never?

FedEx maybe can help?

@@martinlatvian5538 you mean Spacex 😎

2035 - if all works out, it will be complicated ... pick them up, send them up to an orbiter, ship them back to earth and land them safely.

@@danihz5610 Oh, yeah! SpaceX can and they will.

Put a repeater satellite in the position of the Earth-Sun Lagrange points, L4 or L5, which is at the point of a triangle intersecting Earth's orbit around the Sun, with the Earth and Sun at the other two points of the equilateral triangle. IOW one point is ahead of us in Earth's orbit around the Sun, the other is behind us in our solar orbit. It would be far enough away from Earth to be able to maintain a radio link between Mars and Earth when the Sun is in between us. Later! OL J R :)

How come we don't triple our budget on every project to make it slightly better?

Maybe having done it with James Webb will spark an idea that makes such a relay a decent use of NASA's poverty budget but until there's actual people there constant communication with Mars isn't strictly necessarily. For a long term rover mission its more of an inconvenience. As you rather note its still not like we command these things in real time. Indeed the average lag is I believe around 20 minutes each way which is more then enough to rule out a lot of time critical responses, never mind knowing what to do correctly once you hear the problem. If something is going to keep for a few days while NASA brainstorms what to do... it will keep for a few more to implement the solution.

It's moves at .01 mph 🤣

Lol It's funnier you think that