The Greek Alphabet (Koine Era Pronunciation)

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Tim McNinch

Tim McNinch

8 років тому

An introduction to the Greek alphabet, using the pronunciation of the biblical era.
[There are a couple (slightly funny) typos in the example words-extra credit if you spot them!]

КОМЕНТАРІ: 575
@user-fp2jy5sv9k
@user-fp2jy5sv9k 2 роки тому
I ‘m here to see how many characters can be used for Covid-19 variants.
@lukapainter9038
@lukapainter9038 2 роки тому
Haha same
@rightsmite
@rightsmite 2 роки тому
😂😂😂. When they get to the end they will Start again with alpha alpha
@drgeorgek
@drgeorgek 2 роки тому
Ha ha ha that’s hilarious
@ronnym1977
@ronnym1977 2 роки тому
HA HAAAAAAAA! That's funny.....
@johnsayre2038
@johnsayre2038 2 роки тому
@@rightsmite You may be correct. That's what I've been wondering, what's going to happen when they run out of mysterious sounding Greek letters? Perhaps South Park is correct, it will be the Delta super duper plus mega variant.
@randolphwalker
@randolphwalker 5 років тому
Great teaching video. Your patient delivery makes it easy to follow. I appreciate the work you put into this.
@Moharani21
@Moharani21 3 роки тому
I am a polyglot with a very good set of ears. Glad n delighted you fooled me. Your intonations were superb. Your method of repetition is excellent.
@xouleposxoulepos4506
@xouleposxoulepos4506 2 роки тому
Really my polyglot friend? He fooled you? He fooled me too...I thought this would be a lesson in Greek...but then I realized...what a load of shit. And another thing...Do you really think that starting a sentence with the statement that you are a polyglot (which is a Greek word btw) will make your opinion matter more? You might be speaking 50 languages...but you still talk shit
@user-dj3is2qh2u
@user-dj3is2qh2u 2 роки тому
@@xouleposxoulepos4506 Wtf is your problem? Μαλακα
@xouleposxoulepos4506
@xouleposxoulepos4506 2 роки тому
@@user-dj3is2qh2u Δεν ξερεις Ελληνικα χαζουλη? Let me guess...you are half Greek...you kinda speak Greek, but not really. Who is the foreigner ? Mommy or daddy? Do you really think u r fooling anyone? You dont speak Greek,you d like to..but u dont...and you dont need the o in your fuckin nickname...it looks stupid
@user-dj3is2qh2u
@user-dj3is2qh2u 2 роки тому
@@xouleposxoulepos4506 Lol you are pathetic and probably a Turk
@xouleposxoulepos4506
@xouleposxoulepos4506 2 роки тому
@@user-dj3is2qh2u Oh man...I nailed it...you really cant speak Greek...Man I am sorry...you have a mountain to climb...Seriously...its hard...So don't waste a sec arguing with me...Hit the books....You win..I am definitely not a Turk..don't know how you got that..but anyway...N I am not joking ...you dont need the o in your nickname...When you learn and understand Greek, wth this movie ''Τι εκανες στον πολεμο Θαναση ?¨¨
@user-ek9iw6xv3i
@user-ek9iw6xv3i 6 років тому
Despite some few errors, this is such a good lecturing and enjoyable film that I share it to my foreign friends that want to learn the Greek alphabet. After all, the pronunciation is so close to the modern one, that the smaller differences can be excused to a foreigner! Than you, Tim! I even enjoy it from time to time myself!
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 6 років тому
ευχαριστώ πολύ!
@denizmetint.462
@denizmetint.462 5 років тому
Athanásios
@Michail_Chatziasemidis
@Michail_Chatziasemidis 4 роки тому
Αναρρωτιέμαι πού είναι τα λάθη. Αφού η αποκατεστημένη προφορά των αρχαίων ελληνικών (τόσο εκείνες των ομηρικών χρόνων και της κλασικής εποχής, όσο και αυτή της ελληνιστικής, που όλες εντέλει, άλλες περισσότερο, άλλες λιγότερο, διέφεραν απ’ τη σύγχρονη νεοελληνική) είναι πολύ προσεγγιστική, όχι-ακριβής, και αφού δεν έχουμε ηχογραφήσεις της εποχής, δεν μπορούμε να κατηγορήσουμε για λάθη όταν προσπαθούμε να την προσεγγίσουμε.
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 4 роки тому
@@Michail_Chatziasemidis τα λαθη ηταν κυριως ορθογραφικα (φονη, εσκατος κλπ) αλλα και μια καπως σημερινη αγγλικη προφορα, που σιγουρα δεν ειχαν οι αρχαιοι
@deithlan
@deithlan 2 роки тому
@@giorgiomiami7447 Koine is the ancient greek dialect from which modern greek descends from, so while there are some pretty big similarities, they are not the same languages and Koine is not really spoken anymore.
@anonimaquenada
@anonimaquenada 2 роки тому
An impressive teaching. I like it! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. 👍
@fraukeschmidt8364
@fraukeschmidt8364 6 років тому
Very helpful, with the word examples and repeating the whole alphabet up to the point. Thank you.
@dgrewar
@dgrewar 5 років тому
Hi Tim, thank's for sharing this lesson on how to read write and pronounce the koine era Greek alphabet. I'm starting from scratch and have been at it for two weeks on and off. I'm now able to read and recite the the alphabet and have today practice writing the words you used to explain each letter. Im quite pleased with my progress being able to write down a few of the worsd correctly just from listening to you saying them. Thank you for helping me to get started on learning to read and write in Greek using Koine pronunciation
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 5 років тому
I'm glad you found it helpful! Good luck with your continued studies!
@UserE_.
@UserE_. 2 роки тому
How is that going it's great seeing people who are not from my country try to learn Greek.
@inkyguy
@inkyguy 7 років тому
I really, really like this presentation. I like the repetitive, rote way the alphabet is presented. It allows me to listen and repeat many times what is being said and shown on the screen which allows it to enter my mind and my memory so much more effectively. Thank you.
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 7 років тому
Thanks, inkguy! Glad you find it helpful!
@user-gb3cz7wn8y
@user-gb3cz7wn8y 2 роки тому
Εξαιρετική δουλειά, συγχαρητήρια!
@aqnickyuwu
@aqnickyuwu 2 роки тому
Ναι
@burningjohn579
@burningjohn579 2 роки тому
Ναι
@burningjohn579
@burningjohn579 2 роки тому
Πολύ ωρεές λεξεις
@obrigadob692
@obrigadob692 2 роки тому
@Vagia Katsikarou θαυμάσια προφορά... (?) Τα αυτιά σου, είναι εντάξει????????? Τι είναι αυτά που λέτε... Ελληνικά με αγγλική προφορά... Αυτό ακούσαμε, έλεος πια... Ε όχι και θαυμάσια προφορά... Απλά , ο άνθρωπος το προσπάθησε , μέχρι εκεί. Τίποτα παραπάνω , τίποτα περισσότερο.
@eva6107
@eva6107 2 роки тому
Συγνώμη, προσπαθεί αλλά η προφορά δεν είναι καλή. Και στο γάμμα γράφει το ρήμα γιγνώσκω λάθος. Γράφει γινώσκω. Τουλάχιστον αυτό πρέπει να το διορθώσει.
@OtterLakeFlutes
@OtterLakeFlutes 7 років тому
Thank you so much. I am currently enrolled in Christian Leaders Institute's Biblical Greek I in the free ministry courses. They have quality materials, and in other subjects a lot of great videos , but not much video priming in this one, so thanks a lot. This is phenomenal. I feel like a real pro practicing this with you. Thanks, I haven't had this good of a teacher since Mrs. Bineau in the 80's teaching the way ancient Latin was thought to have been spoken. Peeking at your favorite channels, I'd love to see a note-takers' bible you've been adding educated notes and comic-quality drawings into, in the wide margins! Edit: I have reached an interactive portion of CLI's course and I should give that props, quite nice, but still irreversibly gleeful to have found you and your adept pronunciations..
@wessikes
@wessikes 5 років тому
My thanks to you, from a beginner in koine Greek. Before I can learn the grammar and vocabulary, first I must learn the alphabet. Your UKposts post is very helpful....
@steelrose7342
@steelrose7342 5 років тому
Thanks for this video. I begin to learn koine this semester and this help me to study.
@DevinAkin
@DevinAkin 6 місяців тому
The greatness continues. Thanks Tim!
@frouxfroux
@frouxfroux 3 роки тому
Best video for learning the Greek alphabet! Thank you!
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 7 років тому
Andrew, thanks for your comments! See my video on vowels and diphthongs for clarity on tau. As far as the song goes, I'm singing "and" which in Greek is kai, pronounced "keh". Hope that helps!
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 7 років тому
Oh, and at the end of the song: και τω τελω, ομεγα... "and at the end, omega."
@xouleposxoulepos4506
@xouleposxoulepos4506 2 роки тому
No it doesnt help at all...we dont sound like that
@ianinachaninah
@ianinachaninah 3 роки тому
Great video! I hope you can post more lessons. 😃
@joseorlandoladinov.8588
@joseorlandoladinov.8588 4 роки тому
Gracias profesor por esta lección.
@birdieh1716
@birdieh1716 Рік тому
Thank you so very much. I have been studying the book of Aсts in the Bible and have been frustrated by American preachers who massacre the place names like Derbe and Samothrace. i think it’s the conceit of the English speaking world who presume that all non-English words ought to be pronounced as if they were some odd form of English. I can’t thank enough for your very clear and very patient reading of the alphabet. Cheers from New Zealand. Kia ora.
@Flamesofthunder
@Flamesofthunder 4 роки тому
9:35 is when the rhyme starts. I use that rhyme to help me study
@AndrewFlower
@AndrewFlower 7 років тому
What an amazing video... I'm about to start studying biblical Greek on my own and after learning Japanese, I know the first thing I want to get is the correct pronunciation. This video is so well structured. The repetition of the characters will really help. I'm hoping that this is indeed the correct pronunciation, as I have no way to verify ^_^ Thank you for making this video!
@Missramy100
@Missramy100 4 роки тому
Any tips you can share with a beginner? I am starting with this Alphabet. It seems like I would have needed another lesson before the alphabet. :))
@christopherskipp1525
@christopherskipp1525 3 роки тому
@@Missramy100 The alphabet is the place to start--don't get too hung up on letter pronunciations, as there is a fair amount of disagreement/variation among Greek teachers on this.
@Missramy100
@Missramy100 3 роки тому
@@christopherskipp1525 Thank you! I actually used the Duolingo app for Greek. :)
@user-if7lp1bq8n
@user-if7lp1bq8n 2 роки тому
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME, BIBLICAL GREEK IS ROMAN GREEK, FAKE STORYS TO CONTROL THE NEXT GENERATION OF GREEKS.
@JKRedStar
@JKRedStar 4 роки тому
Big thanks for this video!! Good job!!
@leonzhou5480
@leonzhou5480 2 роки тому
I just love the visual design so much. It would be perfect if IPA is added!
@marthamontoyabencomo5156
@marthamontoyabencomo5156 8 місяців тому
thank you so much, love your presentation. Martha
@angrybeluga1697
@angrybeluga1697 4 роки тому
Very helpful, thank you. 😊
@sorena81
@sorena81 6 років тому
Thank you very much for this wonderful video, would you please be able add the pronunciation of diphthongs as well?
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 6 років тому
Hi sorena81, thanks for the compliment! Please see the companion video on vowels and diphthongs here: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hamCn26FsWii2Hk.html
@nanigopal7268
@nanigopal7268 3 роки тому
Very good video you havd made. It is centpercent cleat to me. Thank you very much for offering a good video.
@johnsummers9790
@johnsummers9790 2 роки тому
I loved the tune at the end for the whole alphabet.
@mariagalanopoulou2935
@mariagalanopoulou2935 2 роки тому
Τέλειο βίντεο! Nice video! Greetings from Greece!
@mariamentis3428
@mariamentis3428 Рік тому
Τέλειο με μερικά λαθάκια. Ας μην υπερβάλλουμε
@MarcosCapaz
@MarcosCapaz 7 років тому
your phonetcs are very very clear, help me alot. same videos confused me.
@jpaleas
@jpaleas 2 роки тому
Πολύ καλά μπράβο ! It’s hard to hear your native language’s alphabet been massacred over the years, especially from college sorority students! 🤣 Love love love the song in the end ! Not bad over all ! Thank you !
@Beastinvader
@Beastinvader 7 років тому
Thank you so much.
@JohnCroweSongwriting
@JohnCroweSongwriting 9 місяців тому
thank you so much!
@alez1154
@alez1154 2 роки тому
Great video!perfect for studying Greece~!
@peakbagger7682
@peakbagger7682 4 роки тому
This was a big help for me. I am an auto-didactic learner and want to learn enough Koine Greek that I can one day read the New Testament in the original language. I think this will be easier than learning the Hebrew syllabary and its diacritic markings, that is, I will learn Koine Greek much quicker, I think.
@uneasyrider6533
@uneasyrider6533 4 роки тому
Peakbagger I am on the same journey. May we both gain a greater understanding of the Word of GOD. GODS speed!
@RafailFytopoulos
@RafailFytopoulos 2 роки тому
αδελφέ μου θα χαρώ να σε βοηθήσω να μάθεις την γλώσσα. Αρκεί να μπορείς να ερθεις στην Ελλάδα κι Εγώ αναλαμβάνω τα υπόλοιπά.
@PatrickPease
@PatrickPease 2 роки тому
Hebrew is super easy, if you aren't sure just assume "ah" for the vowels and you're 90% there. just learn "oh" and "oo" and you got another 5 percent. the rest is י and just assume it's an "ee" sound and your 99% Percent there. you'll never ever chat with a Hebrew speaker anyway so don't be too hard on yourself
@lancelot07ray
@lancelot07ray 2 роки тому
Thanks for your video!
@AndrewFlower
@AndrewFlower 7 років тому
Tim thanks so much for making such a great video. It's awesome that you've spelled the pronunciations of each letter. One question regarding the song. What are the extra sounds between π and ρ, and between ψ and ω? Thanks! Also, why is ταυ pronounced as "tav" and not "tau"? is it a special diphthong?
@Michail_Chatziasemidis
@Michail_Chatziasemidis 4 роки тому
Andrew Flower By the time after the 1st century AD, αυ was pronounced more like /aβ^w/ ~ /aφ^w/ rather than /aw/. Its pronunciation was nearer to modern Greek /av/ ~ /af/.
@rafaeltheodorou9474
@rafaeltheodorou9474 2 роки тому
When υ is after a vowel its pronounced as a v. Otherwise its the same as ι and η
@jacobhuang8427
@jacobhuang8427 5 років тому
Thank you, Tim, for a very clear and understandable teaching. Jacob Huang
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 5 років тому
Thanks for the compliment.
@gazzapax56
@gazzapax56 2 роки тому
Thank you for the video and the effort you put in. I’m trying to find a trustworthy audio/video reading of Mark’s gospel in Koine Greek. I’d like to compare the distinctiveness of the Erasmus sounds, so I can hear the difference…. I don’t wish to learn the wrong one, or, mistakenly hear modern Greek rendition (although I acknowledge comments on here from Native speakers that modern Greek is quite close to koine)…. Any pointers would be helpful. I’ve see the Impressive LUMO project, and while their Mark is using the Byz text, I’m not sure if this is modern Greek sound or 1st C. Sound. Many thanks.
@arsenios1
@arsenios1 2 роки тому
Πολλά συγχαρητήρια σοῦ ἀξίζουν Τίμ διότι χρησιμοποιεῖς πολυτονικό καί πάλι μπράβο!!!
@ExLibris-Alys
@ExLibris-Alys 2 роки тому
That was so interesting! Thanks.
@vasilikiyannos
@vasilikiyannos 7 років тому
Excellent accent Tim!!! Ο Κυριος να σε ευλογει!
@tipotenios7062
@tipotenios7062 2 роки тому
δεν υπαρχει θεος
@vasilikiyannos
@vasilikiyannos 2 роки тому
@@tipotenios7062 Nαι υπαρχει!!!!!! Ερχεται με δοξα και με δυναμη, ΜΕΤΑΝΟΙΣΕ!!!!!
@tipotenios7062
@tipotenios7062 2 роки тому
@@vasilikiyannos οχι δεν υπαρχει
@vasilikiyannos
@vasilikiyannos 2 роки тому
@@tipotenios7062 Ενταξει οπως θελεις, αλλα αυτοι που πεθαινουν χωρις ΧΡΙΣΤΟ, πανε στην αιωνια κολλαση!!!!
@vasilikiyannos
@vasilikiyannos 2 роки тому
@@tipotenios7062 Ο ΙΗΣΟΥΣ σε αγαπα και σε θελει κοντα του, θελει να σε σωσει!!!!!
@sandyhendricks3120
@sandyhendricks3120 6 років тому
For a 'first exposure' to the Greek alphabet ~ I thought this was great repetition! The only thing I didn't like was the 'sighs' when the alphabet was repeated each time. However the song at the end was encouraging! : )
@Tzuriah
@Tzuriah 2 роки тому
I like this but I wish you had gone a bit slower. What do you think about doing a ‘chalkboard’ video with this like your Hebrew Aleph-bet? That way we would know how to write upper/lower case along with pronunciation. I would really appreciate it. Thanks!!!
@petera4565
@petera4565 Рік тому
Thank you very much for this helpful video! I greatly appreciate it. It is interesting to me that by the time of koine Greek, the pronunciation of beta has changed from [b], as in Classical Greek, to [v], as in modern Greek. Similarly, delta has changed from [d] to voiced [th], as it is in modern Greek.
@boblovell519
@boblovell519 8 місяців тому
I wondered where he had gotten a "v" sound out of beta. Thanks for the info!
@robertolyra59
@robertolyra59 Рік тому
Muito bonito e elegante a sua animação do vídeo. Parabéns profissional
@cpolychreona
@cpolychreona 2 роки тому
Good work. I hope that some high-profile new testament scholars learn something from it. A tiny speller, έσχατος, not έσκατος (risks being misunderstood for a dirty word☺). If you ever update this video, don't forget the diphthongs. Do you have a strong opinion about the historical period to which we can date iotakism, the pronunciation as iota of all diphthongs containing this letter?
@user-vo7hm2jk2v
@user-vo7hm2jk2v 2 роки тому
Thank you very much !
@agathadiananarba1248
@agathadiananarba1248 3 роки тому
So helpful❤️
@endlessnameless7004
@endlessnameless7004 8 років тому
Hi, thanks for such a helpful video.What would you say is the difference between the 'epsilon-iota' diphthong and the 'eta' vowel?Thanks
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 8 років тому
Using koine-era pronunciation, ει sounds like the e in tree. It's also the same sound that iota (ι) makes. Eta (η) on the other hand, makes an ay sound like in day.
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 8 років тому
Also, take a look at my video on Greek vowels and diphthongs. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hamCn26FsWii2Hk.html
@saadschool8357
@saadschool8357 9 місяців тому
very nice 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@TaxEvasi0n
@TaxEvasi0n 3 місяці тому
You're making me want to learn Koine Greek now. At least remembering the alphabet and able to read it.
@mikescarlett4704
@mikescarlett4704 2 роки тому
Thank you for Sharing 💫 🎶♾️🌎☮️🕊️🎶🌞
@raquellochoa
@raquellochoa 2 роки тому
What's that thing right before omega in the song at the end? Beginning to learn Greek over here 🙋🏾‍♀️
@georgechristoforou991
@georgechristoforou991 4 роки тому
Well done. Decent attempt at Greek pronunciation
@sapereaude6339
@sapereaude6339 4 роки тому
George Christoforou This is early first century Koine Greek, this is what it sounded like when Jesus was on earth. It’s not meant to sound like modern day Greek.
@Michail_Chatziasemidis
@Michail_Chatziasemidis 4 роки тому
@@sapereaude6339 But of course.
@munziroon6585
@munziroon6585 5 років тому
physics made us learn half of this language...
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 5 років тому
I know, right?! I majored in Physics in college, and when I visited Greece I couldn’t understand a word anyone said, but I could pronounce the street signs!
@angeliquaserenity5009
@angeliquaserenity5009 4 роки тому
Mathematics and Engineering too
@macvena
@macvena 2 роки тому
@@timmcninch Unfortunately, modern Greek is as different to Koine or Hellenic Greek as modern English is different from Old English, or modern standard Italian is from any variation of Latin.
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 2 роки тому
@@macvena Yes, of course. Here I'm only referring to my ability to recognize the Greek alphabet from my physics/mathematics training.
@macvena
@macvena 2 роки тому
@@timmcninch I understand, and I extend my compliments. Your pronunciation is excellent. Well done.
@georgevidalis4260
@georgevidalis4260 4 роки тому
I'm glad that you pronounced ipsilon and not upsilon, two thumbs up!!
@theminecraftfox8912
@theminecraftfox8912 4 роки тому
Upsilon is used by american greek letter organizations like fratternities
@theminecraftfox8912
@theminecraftfox8912 4 роки тому
Upsilon is used by american greek letter organizations like fraternities and sororities
@uigrug
@uigrug 2 роки тому
Εντυπωσιάζομαι, I am impressed
@perinestor2717
@perinestor2717 2 роки тому
If you ever going to visit Italy,there is an archaeological site close to Napoli called Cuma Κύμη an ancient Greek city 800 b.c. Greeks build when they migrate that time to the area.So there is a sign from the Italian ministry of culture said ,These people greeks Hellenes who emigrated 800 b c.and build this city cuma give the name of their home city Kymi Κύμη back in Greece to their new city to remember. (Cuma in Latin) "bring with them the Latin alphabet".Thats what they said.
@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos
@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos 3 роки тому
Thank you so much for your pronounciation!!! It is very encouraging that there are also students of ancient Greek who don't use that Erasmian crap
@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos
@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos Рік тому
@@Snogubb3n I am Greek
@naartarnegol9448
@naartarnegol9448 4 роки тому
...your pedagogical skills are but AWESOME! Merci monsieur!
@kostasarchontis3624
@kostasarchontis3624 2 роки тому
Μπράβο φίλε μου. Ωραίος...
@hmldjr
@hmldjr 4 роки тому
Upsilon was still pronounced as u with a umlaut over it in the koine dialects of Greek. It didn't change until the 11 century AD.
@cacao_0000
@cacao_0000 5 місяців тому
Thank you for this amazing video! I have a question though; why does there seem to be a combination of accent marks on some letters, and what does it mean for the pronunciation? Thank you!
@AhmedVlad
@AhmedVlad 6 років тому
thank you for this wonderful video. I am learning Greek and this was helpful, but is this pronunciation is the same as modern Greek ?
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 6 років тому
Not quite. It represents a dialect that would have been used during the Koine era (including the time the New Testament was composed). The language has evolved since then, and in particular, many of the vowels have migrated toward the sound of iota.
@xanthogenos9827
@xanthogenos9827 6 років тому
Actually, only the pronunciation of eta turned to iota. Otherwise, the pronunciation is the same. Pronunciation of Classik Greek was different from Modern ones. A NATIVE GREEK
@thischannel973
@thischannel973 3 роки тому
@@timmcninch How do we know what somebody sounded like in the Koine era?
@leokal2383
@leokal2383 2 роки тому
Nice job my dear friend, still i have some thoughts about the pronunciation of "Η,η" ητα, which even you call it ita you pronunce it as long ε. As far as i know the only chance this happen is probably at some archaic form of greek not even in classic times and as an example i m thinking of the early orthodox chants that they were writen in koine and being used non stop till today from the close cast of the orthodox clerics and definitely they pronunce it as long "i". I believe there is a misunderstanding here and in the west some people tried to recreate the pronunciation through Latin mostly and not with the help of the natural greek speakers which would be more helpful. Also i believe that for the long ε that is missing they used the diphthong "αι" and to support this, i 'll remind you that some of the diphthongs are there all the time like "ου" and also is the reason that after the turning from the more "singing" like way of the classical times pronunciation to the more dynamic of the hellenistic times, the dialytics invented which shows that there was a reason to know when the vowels its pronunced together or not.
@Claroscur0Astral
@Claroscur0Astral 2 роки тому
I am really feeling this
@mongia20003
@mongia20003 2 роки тому
Excellent
@dimitriosfl
@dimitriosfl 5 років тому
Very good!
@Alex_K7777
@Alex_K7777 2 роки тому
Coming from a Greek, you have a really good accent, congrats
@TubeVision2
@TubeVision2 3 роки тому
Hey, I'm learning Greek and am frustrated by Erasmian pronunciation. Finding koine pronunciation can be challenging. Logos software has some. Would you record the diphthongs? That'd really help.
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 3 роки тому
Hi aiorr - See: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hamCn26FsWii2Hk.html
@burningjohn579
@burningjohn579 2 роки тому
I am from Greece
@darcy6698
@darcy6698 2 роки тому
Great video! May I suggest using IPA notation for the pronunciations as well? It might make it easier, if one cannot hear as well, such as myself.
@ems4884
@ems4884 4 місяці тому
IPA is very helpful ... For those who know it. Sadly no one seems to learn it except for linguists and their students. It can be difficult to get others to learn it.
@b.c.7741
@b.c.7741 3 роки тому
How much does this vary from modern greek alphabet and pronunciation? I'm starting on the journey to teach myself biblical greek and dont really know where to start , what books to buy,
@hayambelahcene3067
@hayambelahcene3067 2 роки тому
J'adore cette video , lettres absolument necessaires pour un prof de maths ou de physique .
@philipgibson138
@philipgibson138 Рік тому
Thankyou I was learning NT Greek alphabet in COVID LOCKDOWN. Fortunately I did NOT find this excellent video. I would have remained in strict lockdown until I had read all 4 gospels AND Acts out loud to my wife and daughters!
@timmcninch
@timmcninch Рік тому
Hahahaha!
@philipgibson138
@philipgibson138 Рік тому
@@timmcninch Tim, I am doubly glad that my joke made you laugh. It is true to life but it was actually a very SAD private family reality that I had worded as joke in hope of a positive response. Back in 2021 my wife was actually thrilled to see me taking up new retirement hobbies like Greek and Welsh. I did not understand at the time why she was so unexpectedly supportive since she had no interest in ' strange tongues' of any sort. As it turned out hobbies like learning NT Greek and singing Welsh Hymns have literally become a life saver for me recently. An extended voluntary lock down from 'normal' social activities like Church on Sundays has been forced upon me by the extremly sad fact that my wife actually died suddenly back in November 2021. I have been reluctant to overload the internet with sad news at a time when the world is so full of real tragedy but this feels like a safe place or warm spot to explain WHY I am enjoying tge Greek alphabet right now. I can now thank you publically that your laughter above made me smile today when nothing else could. I was able to IMAGINE my wife responding positively to your reply, and that is often all a widower needs to get up and face a tough day ahead. She rarely laughed directly at my jokes, but she always joined in the conversation when another person saw the funny side. She would have grabbed my smart phone to make a very clever joke at my expense. I was my wife's hero only if I could make our daughters and grandson laugh in the middle of a family crisis. At times that was my most important job in life. "Make sad people laugh at their own sadness". That skill became extremely important when she was very poorly and physically not able to laugh herself. Seeing the genuine joy of family around her was an essential part of her paliative care in 2021. I was teaching myself the Greek letters and their sounds by using soft toys and giving them all Bible names on labels. She would recognise the names audibly even if MY handwritten letters like zeta and xi looked like what she called " unintelligible squiggles ". It was possibly reminding her of our own daughters trying to write at age 2. As her cognitive skill deteriorated, but still in lock down at home alone with me, I swapped from Greek to WELSH where there are no squiggles in the aphabet. It is a familiar accent here in the UK. She did not know any welsh vocabulary but she found the smooth sounds of the language 'familiar and comforting' . So I learnt the song CALON LAN, with the occasional letters LL, CH, and NG that didn't look too foreign. Ruth knew several Welsh hymn tunes from childhood so I could even change the TUNE to add variety... "What a friend we have in Jesus." Her final weeks were as pleasant as we could make them by all of us just " being ourselves" and enjoying what we liked doing in a manner that she would find amusing. You may never know what ETERNAL good can come from a you tube video that you post when you are motivated by a " Calon Lân ". Phil. G. Feb 2023
@timmcninch
@timmcninch Рік тому
@@philipgibson138 I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm glad my video could prompt a fond memory.
@UserE_.
@UserE_. 2 роки тому
Θα ειναί λίγο δύσκολο για άτομα καινούργια στην ελληνική γλώσσα να αρχίσουν από αρχαίους τονισμούς αλλά πιστεύω πως θα βοηθήσει κάποιους πολύ. Καλή δουλειά.
@burningjohn579
@burningjohn579 2 роки тому
Και εγω ετσι πιστευω
@preussenuberalles1682
@preussenuberalles1682 7 років тому
Very helpful work, Tim, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have learned that the sound of beta is between 'b' and 'v' as in English and its IPA symbol is just beta. Now, I have two questions. 1. Isn't the sound of ypsilon like 'u' between consonants in French or 'ü' in German? 2. Isn't the symbol ̔ stand for a hard breath like 'h' in English? Maybe those were the sounds in Ancient Greek. Thanks for your answer.
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 7 років тому
Thank you for your questions. 1. To my ear, the υ does sound like German ü. But I should say I don't know very much German and don't have much experience utilizing the IPA - unless we're talking about India Pale Ales. ;-) 2. In the Erasmian pronunciation system, ' does indicate a rough breathing. But research shows that the rough breathing was not pronounced during the Koine era.
@shauntighe1758
@shauntighe1758 7 років тому
Tim McNinch what are you singing between Psi and Omega?
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 7 років тому
at the end of the song: και τω τελω, ομεγα... "and at the end, omega."
@Michail_Chatziasemidis
@Michail_Chatziasemidis 4 роки тому
Tim McNinch I think that «και εν τέλει» would be more correct.
@dio8882
@dio8882 2 роки тому
Είμαι ελληνίδα Και πραγματικά η προφορά είναι και η άρθρωση είναι εξαιρετική
@burningjohn579
@burningjohn579 2 роки тому
Ναι
@burningjohn579
@burningjohn579 2 роки тому
Και εγω
@Kagkvo
@Kagkvo 2 роки тому
I need this for my Latin exam thank you
@budekins542
@budekins542 6 років тому
Does anyone know roughly how many extra-biblical texts there are that were written in Koine Greek?
@BelieveGrace5
@BelieveGrace5 3 роки тому
Can one substitute a digamma (F) pronounciation with the phi (f) sound? The reason I ask is because it is understood that the digamma has a ( wau sound ) yet in English and Latin it has the sound of F. What are you thoughts on this?
@watchmakerful
@watchmakerful 2 роки тому
I don't think so, it was [w], not [f].
@kla631
@kla631 7 років тому
Question about kappas symbol. I've seen it the way you have it on the video, and I've seen it as a K which one is true. Is one modern and one Koine or just like handwriting changes from person to person, another way to write it?
@timmcninch
@timmcninch 7 років тому
First of all, there is not much difference between a capital kappa (Κ) and a lower-case kappa (κ) beyond the size, so that can be a bit confusing. But both symbols look much like the English K. Other minor variations are just matters of font choice. The lower-case kappa in this video uses a font that is a bit stylized.
@kla631
@kla631 7 років тому
OK, Thanks for clearing that up.
@watchmakerful
@watchmakerful 2 роки тому
@@timmcninch Modern fonts often have two varieties of lowercase kappa. And in LaTeX they are independent characters with different names. The same happens to theta and phi, sometimes also rho.
@user-zc7kh8bu7g
@user-zc7kh8bu7g 2 роки тому
Συγχαρητήρια που χρησιμοποιείς το πολυτονικό σύστημα...και λέξεις απο τα Αρχαία...
@rennyskiathitis8178
@rennyskiathitis8178 Рік тому
What are the differences between Koine Greek and modern Greek in regards to how the alphabet is pronounced? For example when did Beta turn into Veta?
@Rightlydividing-wx1xb
@Rightlydividing-wx1xb 2 роки тому
According to C. C. Caragounis, a prominent Linguist and Grammarian of Greek and scholar of the history of the Greek language, including pronunciation, and native speaker, instantiates by ancient inscriptions and documents that the pronunciation has been the same since the 24 letters of the Greek alphabet today were made official in 403 BCE. The koine is pronounced- keenee. The main proof of HGP, today's Greek Pronunciation is spelling variants, the most common since the 5th century (and earlier) are the interchangeable vowels. Clear examples of words spelled two or three different ways, the difference being the interchanging of certain vowels and digraphs and many found within New Testament manuscripts are a result of orthography, sounds from scribes writing what is dictated in scriptoriums . Plato is quoted concerning this problem. Various letters being used equalling the iota sound: n, u, oi, ei, I. The pronunciation being used by English speaking seminaries for the New Testament is manufactured by Erasmus in 1528, he was duped by colleagues of his, a new pronunciation of Greek they claimed and he introduced it in a story of a conversation between a lion and a bear, this is documented. Caragounis and Dr. Philemon Zackariou both have written on the History, morphology, syntax, phonology, etc. of the HGP=HISTORICAL GREEK PRONUNCIATION. They present evidence, they also present opposing argumentation, and they present phonological, including orthographical spelling differences, and all other aspects of the phonology of Greek. They discuss the whole issue of the language and pronunciation.
@luukstokhof5727
@luukstokhof5727 2 роки тому
At 2:00 minutes. Isnt it hemera? Like with a H pronunciation ? Dont know it for sure tho only learned old greek at my school with no actual focus on the pronunciation.
@jorgedominquez9322
@jorgedominquez9322 2 роки тому
Felicidades , Συγχαρητήρια , Congratulations .
@thiagoeduardo4421
@thiagoeduardo4421 4 роки тому
What source are you using? I found it pretty
@piotrrybka318
@piotrrybka318 11 місяців тому
Very nice video, but what I personally miss are the following: - IPA symbols and/or at least information on sound features (place and manner of articulation, voicing etc.), - differences in pronunciation depending on location of the letter. After listening, I'm not sure if your γ is velar or uvular and if in every context (especially if doubled--how would you pronouce αγγελος?) or if your η is monophthongal (it seems you used both, monophtongal and diphthongal pronunciations, but the names of the letters may suggest diphthongal pronunciation). In case of ι, I know is either [i] or [j], but for a newbie it may not be that obvious. And how the heck do you pronounce υ? [i] or [v] depending on the context? And what about digraphs, spiritus asper, accents, and iota subscriptus? The alphabet itself is not enough to be able to read Greek texts. If you describe or have alread described all of that in other videos, only then you may be forgiven. 😉
@romanheinemann1549
@romanheinemann1549 7 років тому
there are actually 2 types of Koine Greek:one is Early (1st AD) and one is Late (4th AD) tthe Greek in this video is a Roman period (1st AD) Koine Greek, when eta is not identical to iota yet, but in 4th AD (still Koine, also called early Byzantine) eta merged with iota along with ei digraph, ypsilon (ipsilon, upsilon) and digraph oi not yet iotacized( sound like German ü). by the way, your kappa k sound is too aspirated (otherwise mistake as digraph kappa-chi's sound), chi sound became almost identical to the English "h" sound (soft plosive).
@MarcosCapaz
@MarcosCapaz 7 років тому
your comment helped me alot. thanks
@guillaumemidelton9152
@guillaumemidelton9152 6 років тому
Can you please tell me more about the greek koine? I'm studying ancient greek and "Koine" is the pronunciation that I chose (not too near from the current greek or too far from the classical greek). At that time was gamma pronunced like the french "r" and has delta a light "z" sound? Didn't the sound "b" exist? I know the digraph épsilon-upsilon was prononced as "ev" or "ef" ( as in "evangelios") but was it the same for alpha-upsilon? And for example, how would you pronunce μυῖα, ποιητἠς, εὐειδής?
@HAL-kd7ve
@HAL-kd7ve 6 років тому
all wrong
@alphasaith8349
@alphasaith8349 6 років тому
Omicron is very similar to Omega, but there is a difference. Omicron is a short O, like in "on", and Omega uses a long O, like in "show". Do note that I'm still learning, so this may not be 100% accurate, this is just what I've learned.
@KoineGreek
@KoineGreek 5 років тому
I have a whole page on pronunciation on my website with plenty of examples, see: www.KaineDiatheke.com
@nareshmalla337
@nareshmalla337 6 років тому
Sir can you somehow covert these English name "vidur" and "Kiran" to Greece.
@Michael5iLVEr
@Michael5iLVEr 5 років тому
Naresh Thakur It depends on which form of Greek you want to transliterate them. Homeric Greek: ϝιδύρ (widur), κιράν (kiran). Ancient Greek βιδούρ (bidūr), κιράν (kiran). Hellenistic Koine/Medieval Greek βιδούρ (vidhur), κιράν (kiran). Modern Greek βιντούρ (vindur), κιράν (kiran).
@nareshmalla337
@nareshmalla337 5 років тому
Khatz Mikhael thank you sir a lot .
@MetalReactions
@MetalReactions 2 роки тому
It is amazing how many mistakes there are in this video. Espacially the way you pronounce the example words and even more specific the letter "η"
@MetalReactions
@MetalReactions 2 роки тому
@Konstantin Trehagyrevopoulos και στο βήτα βάζει ένα έψιλον μέσα.
@simonbedenbender3087
@simonbedenbender3087 4 роки тому
Which font are you using? Its very beautiful.
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 4 роки тому
I think its a Times New Roman font
@mitrahispana4119
@mitrahispana4119 Рік тому
For the word “pneuma”…is it pronounced NOO-ma or P’noo-ma? 🤔 is pi silent? EDIT: your singing at the end was so cute ☺️ made me feel like my family was teaching me letters like when I was a kid
@benjiang9789
@benjiang9789 3 роки тому
For the first vowel in "B" and "Z", some speakers use [e] while some [i]. Are both correct?
@user-wg4tv4fg1d
@user-wg4tv4fg1d 3 роки тому
Η,Ι,Υ,ΕΙ,ΟΙ all of them is pronouncing e
@piercesmith1465
@piercesmith1465 Рік тому
Hey is the upsilon sound the same as the German ü? For the consonants and vowels, how much have they changed? I'm just starting a Beginner Ancient Greek Textbook--but the authors are from Melbourne, Australia! So they try to use English words (rather than any IPA!!) as examples for the different sounds, but they're bonkers how far off--and how little they care--from the correct pronunciation. I guess it's just a reading course, but I'd like to be able to read the Ancient Greek with confidence that I'm at least trying to approximate the sounds
@timmcninch
@timmcninch Рік тому
Yes, to my ear upsilon and German ü sound the same (I should add, though, that I am not a native speaker of either language-so there may be nuances of sound I don't pick up on).
@piercesmith1465
@piercesmith1465 Рік тому
@@timmcninch Thanks man! I agree about the nuances. There are some sounds that are the same in IPA across a lot of languages, but each language just has that tiny nuance different from the others in how the sound is enunciated.
@gloriosatierra
@gloriosatierra Рік тому
Y is elongated u follow by i: ui “u-i”
@el_teacher_gus74
@el_teacher_gus74 2 роки тому
Is there any difference between logos/rhema, teknon/juios, zoe/bios? please!
@GREEKTEDDY
@GREEKTEDDY 7 років тому
Good Job
@luisperez3979
@luisperez3979 3 роки тому
great!
@whatsminenamebrooo7084
@whatsminenamebrooo7084 2 роки тому
Good job είναι τέλειο το βίντεο σου
@shauntighe1758
@shauntighe1758 7 років тому
At the end what are you singing between Psi and Omega?
@dieselface1
@dieselface1 6 років тому
kai to telo o-mega -- and the last/end Omega
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