Trump put him in business, for him to abide by the unitparty even slightly is a betrayal of the citizens

the whispers in his ear were from Kevin McCarthy

@@zachary_attackerythe guy who trump endorsed for speaker, and who DeSantis opposed while in Congress. Stop being retarded

Oy vey, stop noticing so much.

the sudden trip to Israel and then even more sudden anti antisemitism hate speech laws on his return were the dead give away the zog cant help itself but always show its hand pulling the strings

He knew he didn't need to go... And why.. so 8 candidates could just jump him??? So knowing this he said I won't go... That's why he is President!! Because he's a leader not a follower!!

@@darkshad0wbee483 I slightly disagree. He should be going to simply own all of them and to remind them exactly who is in charge.

President Trump's decision to skip the debates was a masterstroke.

@@michaelmacleod6517 He doesn't need to be there. It's a waste of time. Look at his poll numbers and look at how the debates are tanking in views.

What was it I heard today? Desantes got 4 points in the debates, Nikki got 2 everyone else got 1 and Trump, not even being there, got 18. Something like that, but if that ain't telling of which way the winds are blowing the GOP better stop fuckin around and actually get some actual candidates and not a bunch of weak, corrupt and disingenuous mouth pieces

Quiet. He went there to please his puppet masters

Absolutely true. Yet, the whole monoparty is Israel First.

The fact that DeSantis thought that would be smart idea, perhaps even thinking he'd get a popularity boost, shows me that the man is a complete moron and controlled.

What happened in Israel on 10/7 was evil and I hope they get justice but man, the amount of control they have over politicians on both sides is absolutely nuts. Things need to change.

You mean the law that bans putting signs/objects on someone else's property to intimidate them, like burning crosses?

Yep. You aren't aloud to criticize those who control your government!

Every single time

That is a weird virtue signal to the jewish community. His advisors suck.

Oy Vey

Why is the US Government essentially Israeli led anyway?

I don’t know if it’s patriotic or not, but it deserves a medal for going above and beyond the call of duty…

It was a beanbag chair originally. Now it's a yoga mat.

Be careful. If you keep insulting Chris Christie like that he might just call you Donald Duck.

You sound like a mobster. The debates were pointless because you guys put absolutely zero thought into your decision to back Trump. You haven't even imagined a scenario where he loses. I don't want him to lose, but I can easily see this going down in the history books as a famous case of misguided loyalty. A thoughtless gamble. DeSantis is better in every conceivable way that actually matters. Trump is more entertaining, but president and entertainer are two separate jobs.

@@tombailey1059 Nailed it. He is not the Trump from 2015 anymore and people are still acting like he is. And this idea of Trump walking to the nomination in 2024 is such an inversion. Trump shouldn’t debate? Trump shouldn’t be opposed by DeSantis, his closest competition (even if there is a wide polling gap)? I don’t understand why MAGA supports softening up Trump for the nomination.

@@tombailey1059 Have you seen the Republican debates? Cause everyone who has keeps mentioning Ramaswamy and Nikki Haily as the winners. DeSantis is fighting a LOSING battle for second. Say what you want about those who continue to support Trump, but DeSantis fumbled hard. The Twitter/X debut. His campaign woes. Pack leader resigning. I still respect DeSantis as a Governor. He's done real good for my State, but holy hell is he not ready for the president's office. Maybe Trump is unqualified, I'll let you have that. But DeSantis is only more unqualified.

​@tombailey1059 Yes, how dare I vote for the best president of my lifetime, and not child-drone-striker Obama, Dementia Joe, George What'cha-doin'-Sadam Bush, or p0rn sax Clinton. How dare I not vote for a guy that comes off as a RINO light. Trump's economy got the US finally out of the '08 slump, was involved in three historic peace deals, and was nominated twice for the Nobel Peace Prize. How dare I not consume corporate approved, uniparty slop.

@@tombailey1059 Every time I think DeSantis simps can't cope any harder... they find a new way to utterly embarrass themselves.

Democrats have called Republican presidential candidates 'Hitlerian' since at least Thomas Dewey in 1948.

Yep, it's killer more so because it couldn't be any more true.

Raz0r got the coof for two days, the most productive two days of his life

The man has been cranking vids out like nobodies business

But, how can we bring the Everglades Swamp to Dunsinane Hill?

At this point, I'd elect that guy head of my nation if it meant getting rid of the 388 nitwits in the great white north as arguably that madman in Shakespeare's play didn't do as bad a job as they did.

He served the MIC, always. If you took a more critical look at what he did during is tenure there, none of this would surprise you.

My guess, is Desantis probably thought that the same angry media quagmire that tailed Trump in 2019/2020 would occur again in 2027/2028, greatly impeding his chances of a presidential run. He might be right on this, but the cleaner 2028 run without Trump splitting votes is the much better long term plan, possibly even for 2032

“Fall of DeSantis.” You’re a trump fanboy

I'm not from Florida but I got bad vibes from the guy when I saw how long he dragged his feet on constitutional carry.

@@regbar0 Cool, but most people don't have time for a deep dive on gaggles of politicians. Ron beat local lizardman Charlie Crist in '22, and socialist cokehead Andrew Gillum in '18. He's been doing a pretty good job of not letting Florida turn into New England's back yard, and he put Bob Iger in a mousetrap over Reedy Creek. All in all I'd say he's done a pretty good job.

Almost like he desperately needs those UKposts dollars.

Must be an early Christmas gift.

@@KryMoore or maybe he wants to send off the new year with a bang.

Razorfist summoning his doppelgänger Styx.

​@@TheY2AProblem ☕️ 🥄

I see it in my head . . . .

But no, you're wrong about DeSantis. Trump is the shiny new toy on the top shelf that we want want want. Even though, we've already spent our money on shiny new toys and the toy wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Desantis on the other hand, is like our parents saying, you don't need that shiny new toy, you need go home and practice guitar, do your homework, or eat your vegetables. And all the people in comment sections trying to bash Desantis are simply like the kids the toy isles throwing a hissy fit about having to do their damn homework.

​@@jimbosmith6327What's it like, having TDS? Does lithium help, like with bipolar disorder?

@@jimbosmith6327 Because doing all those things for the past two decades really put the country in a great place, didn't it? Hey, it's fine if the country burns down, so long as we still have our dignity in the end!

​@@SomeDigitalGhostwhat's it like supporting someone who thinks men can become women? Do you spend a lot of your time trying to get men pregnant?

A lot of people, both professional politicos and regular people told him to wait for post Trump. Win or lose, Trump was going to be a political wrecking ball in 2024. Best to get out of the way then either follow the path he cleared and present himself as a logical successor, or run against whoever takes over when it becomes too obvious that Capt Potato Brain isn't up for the job no matter how much they "fortify" Biden's numbers.

Like it not, they both need a worthy rival if they want to win. No one on the Democrat side will put a worthy fight, and those two are the only ones on the Republican side who will put up a worthy challenge.

On the sixth day of Christmas, Razor gave to us: 6 Liz cheneys lying 5 F*** you I was rights! 4 inch boot heels 3 Battletech Mechs 2 Yellow flags And a hero cape in a pear tree. 😂

On the seventh day of Christmas, Razor gave to us: 7 social/political breakdowns 6 Liz cheneys lying 5 F*** you I was rights! 4 inch boot heels 3 Battletech Mechs 2 Yellow flags And a hero cape in a pear tree.

The 10th day should be: 10 percent for the big guy

On the eigth day of Christmas, Razor gave to us: 8 corporations croaking 7 social/political breakdowns 6 Liz cheneys lying 5 F*** you I was rights! 4 inch boot heels 3 Battletech Mechs 2 Yellow flags And a hero cape in a pear tree.

You got it. It seemed so obvious and easy so of course it didnt happen

If anything I think all this election cycle has done is set-up Vivek for 2028. Haley exposed herself (even more) as a neo-con, Christie has made permanent enemies of Trump voters (never will win a presidential primary due to that), and DeSantis has definitely hurt his standing with Trump voters while also having some of the worst debate performances until this recent one. Vivek on the other hand is the most likely successor to Trump's voterbase, and unlike other candidates doesn't need to rely on special interest. When 2028 roles around I wouldn't be shocked to see Trump endorse Vivek, unless someone new comes along or proves themselves during Trump's presidency.

You think this flop will hinder a Desantis run in a future election? Nah, most people will have forgot by then.

This is Greg Abbott's plan.

So what are we conservatives suppose to do? We're *not* voting for Trump. If Desantis didn't run, we'll have *no one else* to vote for.

Sad but true tbh 😔 not to mention whether DNC or GOP everyone is pissed they're getting priced out of their own homes too.

Lol. Even if what you’re saying is true, it takes a lot to erase a 20 point margin

Fuck that noise! We DON'T want a Democrat who will kill Florida, so of fuckin course we'll take a republican! Also term limits. I think DeSantis has until 2026, if I remember correctly.

​@@noneofyourbusiness1114that's a zoning problem. NIMNH and HOAs are causing the pricing problems in Florida, but the locals refuse any sort of change

@@noneofyourbusiness1114And that’s Ron’s fault? Are you retarded enough to call for price controls on housing?

Just a short stack.

Wasn't in short supply at least.

Benny keeps the best ones in those platform lifts of his

Changing a state 'color' is more important than a sitting president if one understands how government is supposed to work. A president can always be bypassed in most all things - it just takes more red tape. This is why it's hilarious to think of any president becoming a dictator. A puppet at best.

Why is this "trumps election"? Because he started operation warpspeed? Or because he thinks men can become women?

This is Trump's election to lose just like he lost us the Senate in 2022, lost his white house in 2020, and lost us the house in 2018.

His team doesn't even approach second rate. I otherwise agree.

What books? The only also-rans people remember are Dewey (thanks almost entirely to the Chicago Tribune), Hilary Clinton, and the ones who lost to Lincoln.

It was so obvious from the outset that were Trump to run, he'd run as an incumbent (ie unassailable by new challengers from within the party), that I'm convinced someone at Conservative Inc got Ron to believe early on that Trump was gonna sit this one out, so it was therefore his time to shine. He awkwardly bided his time as long as possible despite clearly telegraphing he intended to run, because he knew that to run against Trump was suicidal, but Trump hadn't formally committed one way or the other, yet. But eventually his backers told him to put up or shut up if he wanted the backing of the establishment in the primary (against Trump), and it would be either him or some other pawn (like Haley). So Ron made his move toward the establshment, and in so doing barred himself from acting as the New and Improved Trump Sequel (TM) that got him noticed in the first place. Then Trump announced his run, Ron's campaign was immediately doomed, and as expected from such treacherous vermin the RNC establishment types immediately toss their martyr in the trash heap for the next willing victim, after he lost his utility in defeating Trump for them. In 2016, the wilingness of these people to abandon their golden boys one after another is what truly revealed how unserious they were about defeating Hillary, and how dogged they were in opposing the will of their electorate. Sure, it was largely due to entrenched DNC fraud operations in Miami Dade that his initial election as governor was so close...but it was also due to his RINO predecessor passing huge volumes of gun control and other such betrayals of conservative voters...and Ron failing to sufficiently differentiate himself from that legacy due to having strong party establishment support. It demoralized the base badly.

​​@@DefunctDisneyThey're 3rd-rate political scientists with 4th-rate ideals, as Kaiba Seto famously said when running for mayor of Duel City That was my favorite part of Yu-Gi-Oh, the political intrigue and terrorist actions like that entire company building getting flattened by a satellite.

​@Eye_Of_Odin978 we need to raise the voting age.

Spot on! The RINO states are filled with "surprises" like that.

I just keyword searched the mess out of it. Got a Bill #? or a link. All anyone is talking/writing about is bs "voter suppression" in those searches. So, not taking your word for it.

But but that sounds like a conspiracy theory. LOL of course he did. Elderly man River just keeps rolling along in the foreground trying to distract us. Also, guess what happens in 2028 I'll give you a hint it's directly related to the children. Specifically the alphas. Also page 37 of course.

@@resonanteamarilla7 so rhinos are basically a siop of the new way forward, got it.

HB 7-B from special session 2021B removed the ability of emergency management to forcefully vaccinate people, but go ahead and keep lying by omission.

All he had to do was wait for 2028 and he would have been on the short list to get into the general. Not like he had to wait for 2032 because both Trump or Biden would be out by then.

Problem being, there *isn't anti "anti-Trump BS" coming from DeSantis.* Trump has been campaigning against DeSantis since motherfucking 2020, the minute Florida shucked off Trump's covid bullshit. Trump hated, HATED, that Florida proved that his covid policies were complete garbage, and he's been pettily flicking peanuts ever since.

Trump still has a lot to answer for from his right flank and he needs competition in the 2024 primary, and DeSantis was the best alternative (even if he does lose). This idea of DeSantis hanging back so that Trump can walk to the candidacy is extraordinarily weak for the guy who in 2015 couldn’t wait to get in there and hit Ted Cruz and Jeb! and has instead decided to not answer for things like Operation Warp Speed, tweeting “LAW & ORDER” while America burned, and not pardoning the J6ers to save his supporters some legal troubles. His leadership should be challenged. If it isn’t, it’s an indictment on MAGA for giving him a pass. “I’m a victim because the deep state wants me in jail, so make me president” is a weak-ass argument for Trump in 2024 and is reminiscent of the victim mentality his supporters are supposedly against.

Desimp located.

@@bigmclargehuge3832 Trump would have never gone after him if it wasn't obvious that he was going to run. Before he ever announced a run, I saw Ron was tanning up and losing weight, it was super obvious he was about to jump in the race. Even if Trump did insult him, he should have ignored it and waited. Only the people too close to the political sphere didn't know this was going to be a disaster for DeSantis.

Dave hasn't been updated since 2015.

Dave was a psychotic Marxist for most of his life. While I’m very glad he has moved away from that, there is something deeply engrained in him that keeps him from going too far right in his mind. Sad really, because I like some of his stuff, and he has some amazing interviews. But his DeSantis SIMPing is painful to watch.

They haven't once thrown anything at him that he can't shake off. The facts are that there's still a market for TDS, and Newsom's been breaking deals to keep his friend safe. Don't believe me? Look it up. Razorfist citied the Washington Examiner, but that site has an article or 2 on their friendship.

@@johndoe-lp9my Dave just regurgitates what he sees. He has no thoughts of his own.

If the RNC hadn't orchestrated events so as to put Ron and Trump at opposite corners of the squared circle...all those concerns about Trump's health and Ron's charisma would be moot. Almost like this was done to put the two most prominent RNC candidates in the weakest position possible, or something.

I voted and encouraged other to put Ron in office. That he's trying to quit what we put him in to do early, says much about his character. Should've finished out his term, taken a year off and then run, not this bullshit. He's as shitty as Rubio. Won't complete what he set out to do.

DeSantis went all in on "anti-woke." Simple as. It's the economy, stupid. Floridians (I am one) loved what DeSantis did for schools, how he handled Covid as it developed, etc. But that shouldn't have formed the basis for a national campaign.

​@barnbwt funny how that worked out. People were warning about a bloody primary last year before it even got going because they could see the writing on the wall. Unfortunately, they were kinda right. They did pit parts of the Republican electorate against each other. Thankfully, however, Trump has been so dominant since the first indictment that the primary fight has been really one-sided. I think the goal to start a Republican civil war was predicated on the mistaken belief that Trump was far weaker than he actually is and that DeSantis was far stronger than he ever was. They may have gotten their civil war, but it kinda blew back on them. Ron and his campaign were too impotent, Trump found his second wind, and the Democrats were to incompetant to capitalize on the division, so all the establishment got for their trouble was exactly what they didn't want. They got a solidification of Trump's dominance, the continued rise of America First, and exposure of the stupid people and the wolves in sheep's clothing. All we have to do is implement the right election strategies and vote in large enough numbers to capitalize on the opportunity.

You don't live in Florida... The Job he did to destroy the woke agenda,neo marxist and communist in our educational institutions is something no other state can say.... Communist control every other state in America

im drinking coffee but also smoked some weed so im still neutral

He would have had 2028 locked in. Imo. If he would have just endorsed trump and did his job as governor.

Not a RINO but certainly a bad move. Not a mistake if it comes down to RD or Biden, I'll take Ron because he's infinitely better than Joe.

What do candidates do with unspent campaign money?

@@terrylandess6072 They get pizza and hot dogs flown in from Chicago.

​@@terrylandess6072usually goes to pay lawyers and staff and such

Exactly, the Roves and Romneys are eyeing to cement themselves as power brokers of the RNC.

It makes perfect sense for DeSantis to run because Trump is a terrible candidate, he's an actual good executive leader, it's been proven that waiting to run doesn't help your future chances at winning, and frankly even if he doesn't beat Trump in the primary we've all seen that losing elections doesn't mean you can't run again.

@@bigmclargehuge3832Exactly

@@bigmclargehuge3832 Trump constantly aligns himself with people that betray him, big surprise

@@zachary_attackery - Yeah I think that's the biggest issue with Trump is his poor judge of character. I still think he's the best option though and the deep state has thrown everything they had at him for some reason. To me voting for Nikki Haley would be the same as any Democrat...she will happily sell America's soul for a few extra digits in her bank account.

​@@zachary_attackeryyou mean Trump constantly backstabs people that he aligns himself with

​@@zachary_attackerybecause trump is a moron and a coward.

those are and have always been grifting his response and actions during covid showed who he was and every trump tard maga chud forgot the moment he started shilling “anti woke” stuff to you all hes a rino in bed w corpos and now the zog always has been

Some may say that it's impossible for DeSantis not to step on Trump's feet with his high heels, but Ramiswamy's treatment of Trump is evidence that it was entirely possible the whole time.

I admire Trump for two things. The state of the union while he had input, and the fact he didn't bother with local or state politics - he went right to the top AND won which brings us back to the first thing. :)

Most of the milquetoast RINO party are the reason why I'm not a republican.

SC was pretty close.I didn’t miss a day of work or the gym due to lockdown

Every place I stopped at in Georgia had mask requirements.. fuckouttahere.

@@breadnaut3087 Cuss your heart out but after the first two weeks, Governor Kemp signed into law that mask mandates were up to each municipality. The Democratic-controlled Cities of Macon, Atlanta, and Savannah mandated masks. Outside those cities people were free to wear them or not. You had streets that divided the city of Atlanta, and the suburbs. On one side of the street people had to wear mask, on the other side of the street they didn’t. 🤣 Facts are like a sunburn, you don’t notice it’s coming until the damage is already done. Don’t bother replying I won’t read it. Not because we disagree, but because you obviously want to take this conversation in a direction that is beneath me. Bless your little heart.

@@breadnaut3087They were complying with Trump’s CDC recommendations. Are you retarded?

@@breadnaut3087 As it turns out, 'lockdowns' and 'mask mandates' are not the same thing.

MERRY CHRISTMAS! 👍

He could have just been non-committal (not usually difficult for a poli) and said something like "Our party usually picks the incumbent for a Presidential race" and then kept his mouth shut on the topic.

If that’s your criteria, what about Loomer and Fournier? Yikes

He had horrible advisors. I think he’s on adviser number four now.

The Jeb! crew went to Jeb, and many of them signed on with Trump or Hailey. Also, can you even define "neocon"? Because at this point, it simply is the right-wing equivalent of the Left's "Fascist".

Neocon? Trump is endorsed by Graham and McCarthy, you fucking idiot

@@GreyWolfLeaderTW He takes advice from a bunch of florida GOP'ers who were on the Jeb! train a few years ago. As for neocons, his policy advisor is a fellow at the Heritage foundation which was founded to push neoconservative ideas during the Nixon years, but are most known for their work in guiding first Reagan's CIA debacles, then the polices of both Bush'es into the numerous clusterfucks they caused. As for a definition of necons they are like progressives, except they want to invoke change for the sake of change in other countries rather than domestically, thinking they can shape events to their liking and are morally obligated to do so no matter how many other people they kill for it.

@GreyWolfLeaderTW neo-cons are the anti-Reagan Republicans, interested in expanding federal power, but not meaningfully pursuing any other conservative goal or opposing Democrats; see abortion, the border, gun rights, Amnesty for illegals, Nikki Haley endorsing puberty blockers for kids, no federal spending cuts, happy to raise taxes, PATRIOT Act, globalism, sabotaging GOP politics against actual conservatives (TEA Party), etc., ... The only policy they actually support is lower taxes for businesses. Everything else they hide behind the veneer of Christian piety as they always tell you, "this isn't the hill to die on, we just don't have the political capital" as they stab the base in the back. Hope this helped you.

It's 2024 or never You strike while the iron is hot and DeSantis is still popular with the GOP

@@dkmenace1990Amen

Then...don't vote for him.😅

That's certainly what Jeb! thought in 2016...

By blundering do you mean run against your guy?

​@@shawnnichols7573no. Stumble and fall trying to take on Trump

You thought that would be a slam dunk? Newsom is intelligent and a world class slimeball, I wouldn't underestimate him like that.

@@mrb152 you ain't wrong on that. But there's so much against him that attacking him should've been easy. And I felt like DeSantis really held back.

He did destroy Newsom. Stop listening to the MAGA spin

Oy vey

I think some people realize Trump is not very likely to win at all. And wanted a plan to throw the country away because of loyalty to Trump. And there are others but they're trying to make Nikki Haley happen etc.

Democrats had nothing to do with this, lay blame at the feet of the GOP establishment where it belongs

​@@Doc_HolidayI mean, George Soros endorsed him..

No Desanctimonious had his own Ego HE chose to Do this he wanted all the Smoke he Thought could Take Down Trump after winning a second term as Governor of Florida this momentum he'd carry over to his bid at the presidency fortunately for us Trump called him out on it because he was aware that he (Ron Desanctimonious) was running a shadow campaign behind scene disguised as a book tour all The usual suspects began to push that is until The Dilley Meme Team made him the Target of ridicule weather is making fun of his facial expressions horrible wife shoe lifts and him wiping boogers on people's faces! 😆🤣😂

The only betrayal is Trump attacking DeSantis 3 days before the 2022 election and having his entire campaign dump all its money to this day on character assassinating DeSantis. The Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush staff Trump hired must have really been scared of DeSantis before the indictments boosted Trump Nostalgia

"betrayal " So rich coming from Trumpsters. Trump has literally betrayed anyone who has ever been close to him.

Same here. I'm glad he didn't wait, considering...

Have fun n with 16 years of Democrat rule. This is gonna be FDR/LBJ on steroids.

No you wouldn't have, some other idiot do nothing "republican" would have told you that Ron was bad because of his boots or whatever and you would follow their lead.

They're all the same it's doesn't matter.

@@American-Motors-Corporation Wrong ….

@@goldbud2287 I'm correct. The trump worshipers and followers of the right left Paradigm are stooges and don't at least wanna see they are in fact the same, they instead go on making excuses for their favorite politicians.

Great news, by glomming onto Trump, you'll get the latter and never the former.

He’s definitely low charisma. And I like him as my governor. Not for president though.

How did 2017-2021go for wrecking ball? If you think rhetoric = policies, you're wrong.

No. Desantis founded the Freedom Caucus, which has tried to fight back against the corporatist GOP for Years. So sick of people who don't follow politics making shit up