Spot On. At 1 min 30 I was holy crap. at 7 mins I had to pause and recruit other people to watch this.

I required breathing assistance from a C-pack machine 35 minutes in. I don't have CPOD or asthma. Uh oh where did I get a C-Pack machine & a cannula?

​@@stephenpmurphy591CPAP

and a good chunk of that was people not treating an animal actor with proper care/healthy fear/respect

The second most horrific part of this video is when he admits that the video could've been so, so much longer

Reason of the AI push

A chilling statement of movie executives notions of people’s worth.

He is the manliest man to ever be manly, he lets us exploit him and never complains, what a man!

And they haven’t gone so ‘mask off’ since!

My employers talking about me

I was thinking the same thing when the director yelled at Joe AGAIN.

It's crazy he didn't just quit the movie immediately after that happened. I guess people would rather take their chances with a wild animal than a movie studio's lawyers.

In his defense it wasn’t intentional nor a result of negligence, he had no way of knowing about radiation that was being released

@@mediaguyking7045that just makes it even more tragic. The survivors guilt of that would wreck any human being

I mean, if it was me, I'd rewatch it once a day and force myself to remember each and every name.

@@yammerrryeet511 he;s a millionare e's fine

​@SuperRat420 I don't like 1%-ers either, but he was not fine 😂

They treated him as a real celebrity

ROAR triggers the part of your brain that remembers how dangerous nature can be. The fact that you have real lions with real humans displaying the subtle signs of distress most people never have to see in other people puts you on edge. It's not the "scariest" movie ever, but it's easily the most stressful film ever made.

It's what I thought of when I first saw the title of the video.

I held my breath when any cat jumped or pressed their face into the actors

Really makes you think, ''damn, nature. You scary.''

I had a chance to watch it and declined because I suspected I would feel the same way while watching it.

tbf if you go by statistics & assuming they listened to anyone, most people in countries with hippos warn how dangerous it is, much more so than cats in everyday life. Obv ROAR was nor real life. God I wonder if Tippi's divorce proceedings are public record; they'd be wild.

@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 I wonder why they listened to experts about the hippo but not all of the numerous experts that warned them about the big cats.

@@KasumiKenshirou The difference was likely lions may possibly kill you versus the hippo WILL kill you.

@@KasumiKenshiroueven Mativo, who was an African native & friend to the Marshall-Hedren household, refused to be anywhere near the lions. A direct interview quote: where I come from, we don’t cuddle them, we don’t kiss them. He was the only cast/crew member who wasn’t injured cause he knew better and kept his distance from the big cats

@@bluemooninthedaylight8073the lions nearly killed Jan De Bont who working as cinematographer where he was, no joke, scalped and had to get his head stapled back together. Credit that the man finished the film

Yes. Nope was the first thing I thought of

probably for practical effects, done at a safe distance but got mixed up

After WW2 they started using real explosives a lot more because so many vets couldn't be fooled by faking it anymore. I would point out public enemy number one for a movie that uses real explosives in shots with their main actors.

This is just such an insane, hilarious thing to read

Because nobody gave a damn.

It was in the Ryder for the producer's contracts. "At least one person needs to nearly die for every million dollars!"

he wasn't a good person

​@@SuperRat420 never said he was - i can still empathize with that feeling

@@workingclassbrat1989 not fuckin me

​@@SuperRat420jeez, get over yourself

@@SuperRat420 He's a better person than John Landis and Alec Baldwin, based on what is presented here. Those two guys didn't even feel guilty about killing someone. Note that Baldwin wasn't merely an actor on Rust, but is also a producer, and was responsible for hiring unqualified people to handle the firearms after the original people that he had hired quit over safety concerns.

By the late 60s into the 70s, tv studios were re-packaging famous scenes from Silent era movies to make it them all appear as silly, primitive, slapstick comedy shorts. Harold Lloyd refused to allow his films to be used that way. His knew his films were deep, complex undertakings, and refused to let his films be disrespected and lumped in with "Keystone Cops" Benny Hill type foolishness.

Also Harold Loyd was the HOTTEST man from that era - ya'll were sleeping on my dude.

Eww, what are these tigers doing my lions movie??

cries in Chatrán

That list of movies with aviation deaths was so sad. Almost none of those films had any legacy. Those people died so the producers could make a quick buck and then the work was forgotten.

two whole IPOS vids in one week? dont mind if i do! btw, this is an old question, can you share the music list of the chucky video? loved those tracks ❤

Seriously. I wonder if we will ever get to the point where we stop using child actors as well. It can be so toxic.

​​@@Strega_del_CorvoThe idea of cgi children in films... sounds like too much. People just need to treat them with respect like every one else and not exploit them. I'd hate to think we have a future of A.I. children running around in otherwise serious films. Talk about horror. Either that or we just phase children out of our stories, which seems arbitrarily limiting. ​@Strega_del_Corvo

They should have told that bit of his story during COVID. He could have been just the GEICO Caveman/Smokey the Bear hybrid that we needed.

Very true.

"'Great meaning large or immense. We mean it in the pejorative sense."

@@KasumiKenshirou great as in the absurdity of it left me awestruck.

I think it’s referenced in the movie Nope.

Maybe don't have a real Orangutan in it though?

They shoud turn this into an event at worlds strongest man.

@@skogsmongo155 Only if the orangutan also gets a shot.

I was thinking the same thing. He must have done it in one punch too because if one punch hadn't done the job, he certainly wouldn't have gotten a second chance. No strongman, not even that particular guy would have stood a chance in a prolonged fight with an adult male orangutan

It’s absolutely horrible what happened on that set. If only someone had gone to the unions and ratted them out, Melanie, her brothers & the various other crew membership have been spared from the nearly fatal encounters

Not that I fully disagree with you...but...it seems like you overlook the focal point of stunt work. The purpose of stunt work is taking risks that might potentially lead to bodily harm. When you create a movie without those risks, you don't need stunt actors. Knowing that, of course, doesn't lessen the drama at all, when an accident happens during a stunt. What I can't see, though, is how it would help to highlight those accidents, once the movie is released. Can you enjoy watching a movie when you know that a person died or got seriously harmed during its making? Should the movie not be released when that happened? That would make the sacrifice even worse, wouldn't it? A stunt person tries their best for (maybe) many great scenes, dies, and then their work is never even shown to anyone. What a waste, no? Even the idea of giving more spotlight to stunt people, by e.g. giving oscars for best stunts, would mean creating an environment where people compete for the most dangerous stunt works. Meaning that people would increase risks for a bigger spot in the lime light. Not a desirable consequence. It seems like there is no good way to deal with this subject, other than to leave it in the background, quietly.

@@Kijinn I think you have good intentions, but I disagree with your conclusions. I didn't say movies with a death on set shouldn't be released, but it does feels grotesque to think of the cast going on about their day knowing someone died on set. I also doubt a dead stunt actor would care much if their movie got released or not. While I have no clue how most stunt people feel about their work, If I died while building a house for someone else, I wouldn't care what happened to the house, I was doing my job. I would want people to know what happened and my collogues not to act as the house is amazing and nothing bad happened making it. Finally, I disagree with the assumption that an oscar for stunts would increase danger as there's no proof of that and it seems weird to decide the best think to do is leave the topic in silence instead.

@@Riccardo_can Nowhere in my text does it say that you suggested movies with a death on set shouldn't be released. I asked that as a rhetorical question. Please read more carefully. Your idea of how stunt people might feel about their work after passing away doesn't hold much ground, because there's very little chance it applies to all of them. Humans differ. Additionally, there's more involved in making that release decision than just how the stunt person might feel about it. Tons of people work on a film. So, you don't think that there's people out there who'd do anything to get an oscar? If you really need proof for that and don't get the impression that there's already lots of proof that some people would do anything for fame, recognition and money...I don't know what to tell you...other than...nice pink glasses you're wearing.

@@Kijinn mmh I think you should have another look instead: how does the fact that a few people might want to do dangerous things for an oscar mean we shouldn't give Oscar's for stunts? Does the best song award pushes people to write songs more dangerously? Maybe 1 in how many? We still give those though. Seem like starting from a conclusion and going backwards. Anyway :'D don't know why you decided to get weirdly confrontational about this, guess that the end of the conversation, have a good day.

@@Riccardo_can Not to linger on the conversation, but I'd like to apologize for becoming confrontational. I may not be in the best mental condition for having discussions on personal opinions. Peace and a good life to you!

The 'It Was A Shit Show' podcast episode is also fantastic!

There are rumors about similar circumstances with the making of *Stalker* (1979).

Behind the Bastards is good if you want to overdose on the mistakes, disasters, and crimes of the past. I worry that indulging ourselves in the horrors of the past might prevent us from recognising the good parts, and may lead to people "throwing out the baby with the bathwater"

@@mattgilbert7347that podcast sucks, but anyway if people are too stupid to look at history as a whole because of media they consume then we are doomed

@@neonwallacewells7818 I wouldn't go that far. If you have your head on straight, it's entertaining.

That's *not* the story of Roar. It's never presented in a way that suggests that the cats want to eat or murder anyone. The story focus is: There are a lot of wild cats that coincidentally end up in the home of an unsuspecting family. Naturally, the humans panic and try to get out of that situation, while the cats are mostly driven by curiosity or "reaction" (meaning they only react to the events around them). Cat aggression primarily happens as infighting. I watched the movie as a child, with my family. There's mostly tension and comedy but no horror or "wild cat" defamation. Although, how you perceive that might also depend on individual sensibility, to some degree.

@@Kijinn I see Roar as being the cat version of Jaws. Here's a wild animal (or in Roar's case, multiple animals) made out to be deliberately targeting humans for no reason other than to kill. The humans are just living their human lives, when they're viciously and unprovokedly attacked by wild animal(s) because 'dangerous animal gonna dangerous animal'. At least the guy who wrote Jaws realised the damage his book and the movie did to people's perception of sharks, and has worked to support research and preservation. Hedren and Marshall were never really about educating people on big cat behaviour.

@@EveryFairyDies You're far off with that comparison. As I already said, Roar wasn't a horror movie. It was more of a comedy with high tension elements, like in a family adventure movie. That said, it was certainly also a wild attempt to market it that way, due to the craziness of the production. Still, within the story, no animal tried to harm any person (beyond accidental scratches) and no one died.

​@@Kijinni find your comments to be pedantic, condescending and annoying. All you've done is argue over nothing in all of your replies. Its crazy how you've seemingly made arguing in youtube comments your hobby.

@@bece00 Yeah...those are always the greatest random comments, criticizing someone for being condescending by being condescending to them. An especially great example of how to be a better human, when you derail the conversation to make it entirely about the person you're attacking. Is that *your* hobby?

It's crazy that all the omens saying "the universe says nope to this" were taken as signs to double down by Tippi & her hubby with forgettable name. The part where the lion is playing with the boat, he looks just like my tomcat when he's hanging with me near the bath & plays with some floating thing...like the cocked head & expression were so similar but ONE IS A LION & THAT IS A FULL GROWN ADULT BOAT. My tomcat is a rescue & had obviously had abusive owners before I came along & I still have to be very present & watchful in our interactions bc he can be set off really easily & he can do some real damage --- which is MY FAULT when it happens bc it's quick but I can see when he's getting overstimulated. I also don't manhandle him bc it just increases his distress & I don't want to hurt him, even if it's a reflex to shake a cat off once they're sunk into you, but their claws + teeth are built to go harder if you're pulling away, so you have to counter-intuitively go further towards the cat, & force yourself to be stiller + quieter & to calm them enough to release you. If I panicked & flailed, I'd hurt us both more. That's a rare occurrence yet I cannot imagine the risk if he was even 10% bigger/stronger. A full grown lion is insane to just roll around with. Like you said, aside from the people, just the damage done to the animals who never asked to be in that situation. I'm glad Zane talked about how they lied & did it behind union backs & how the trauma lingered.

Kaufman is so cool, I genuinely really admire how consistently with it Troma was on their projects despite outwardly seeming like they wouldn’t be at all

It is pretty ridiculous. That said, hippos are responsible for far more deaths in the wild than big cats of any species. Unless you count the "man eating lions", a specific familial line that had a birth defect that deformed their teeth. Tigers more actively attack humans as prey but hippos still beat them out despite not hunting humans as prey. Hippo's are just freaking vicious.

Absolutely pleased when Roar was mentioned. What a nut house of a production that was.

Sees In Praise of Shadows upload, I grab a snack

like the happy merchants of the chosen tribe who run hollywood

Sees title, rubs testicles together excitedly

Very,very true.

Hard disagree. It's gratuitously existential in a way that serves no purpose except to reinforce the nihilism it's supposed to be challenging. It uses fundamentally bad process and bad art as an excuse to belittle a form that's perfectly capable of being both enduring AND humane so long as the same fundamental humanity is represented by both its intent and execution. "No one's going to remember you" has never been an effective message by which to dissuade people from taking senseless risks. It's been proven endlessly that this is the very suspicion that causes most human beings with a creative impulse in them to double down on their own pride and excess. "Hey, filmmakers! Yeah, you guys! You know, self-proclaimed geniuses with religious trauma and repressed sexual dysfunction and drug problems? Have you tried reminding yourself to do a better job of looking after everyone's needs and safety and folding your reputation for decency and integrity into the larger legacy of the art you're making by more wholeheartedly embracing the very void you literally got into this business specifically to run from?" An absolutely tone-deaf, philosophically decadent coda to an otherwise brilliant video and an extremely disappointing and frankly baffling choice. Oh yeah, and fuck Tippi Hedren.

@@zorantaylor3190 I was referring specifically about the politics of AI and how its accelerating the demise of what little empathy and human dignity people in creative fields have historically been given. AI is and will always be purely a tool to remove the need for a living or ANY wage at all. And no humanity is being considered in the process. No law makers are raising the red flag. Capitalism is devouring at a pace never before witnessed, and there is no solution at all for the suffering it's causing.

I guess it might have been helpful that George Miller had been an emergency room doctor, still working shifts at Saint Vincents Hospital while making the first Mad Max film ?

@@FionaOfMountLawley that might explain the *Mad Max* films. Imagine constantly seeing the results of people crashing in their cars and motorcycles going over 60 and 70 mph, and then deciding to make a movie that revolves around the carnage you deal with everyday.

Were the humans biting ankles, breaking arms, beating monkeys to death, and throwing people down the stairs?

Yes, I just don't understand that. Even if the movie studio was going to sue you for not fulfilling your contractual obligations or something, I would rather risk the lawyers than a wild animal.

_"This is exhausting."_ *- Rich Evans*

Nailed it!

Landis infamous helicopter scene must

Chatrán, worst case of animal cruelty

Who would direct it? Tim Burton?

@@richardcooley6061 Burton? Ew No. It would be any of the several directors who make Movies about Making Movies.

Allegedly. Not proven.

@@fmsyntheses You can tell just by watching the movie that animals were at least put in danger. Especially the original Japanese version 子猫物語 The Adventures of Chatran, which has many scenes of animal peril that were cut from the Milo & Otis version. You can see a cat thrown off a cliff in one scene! And a cat being confronted by a bear. And either a cat or a dog with a broken leg. (I don't remember which and I'm not going to watch that movie again to find out.)

@@KasumiKenshirou I'm actually watching it for the first time right now. I'll keep an eye out. I loved the Milo and Otis version when I was a kid, but the Japanese movie has a soundtrack by Ryuichi Sakamoto that's as amazing as everything he wrote.

The “Rust” incident is just the latest in the long line of on-set accidents that have cost lives. There’s a reason why so many productions immediately ceased use of actual firearms after Hylena Hutchins was killed

😯

Also, the local Native Amazonian tribesmen have still had enough with the notorious Werner Herzog, so are the Mestizo snowbirds.

I mention later in the video that this covers less than a quarter of the history of injuries, I didn’t mention that one just because it’s so well known

It wasn’t a criticism, I’m sorry if it came across that way, I was just curious!!! I’m sorry!!

Oh no not at all! I did not take it as one in the slightest, I was just explaining why that wasn’t there is all, you’re good!

That was definitely a murder that got covered up

@@j.2512 Yeah...definitely...because you were there and witnessed it yourself. You basically know everything about it and are *the* expert on the topic. Only question is, why are the police not asking *you?*

Haruo Nakajima was a vulnerable badass for sure!