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Fredrik Knudsen

Fredrik Knudsen

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As the world recovers from World War II and fears of overpopulation swell in America, one researcher begins constructing horrifying experiments to model it.
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@sheimy1588
@sheimy1588 4 роки тому
Male rats: *bullies * other male rats: stfu before I kiss you
@echotheneko7346
@echotheneko7346 3 роки тому
I swear this is how fanfic works xD LMAO
@Mr.imperfectking
@Mr.imperfectking 3 роки тому
Yoooo am fucking dead
@baldgagits2107
@baldgagits2107 3 роки тому
Goddamn it💀💀
@dantethespoon1087
@dantethespoon1087 3 роки тому
I swear this is a yaoi trope
@tsuol7296
@tsuol7296 3 роки тому
@@nippon9429 shut
@frankdupreez
@frankdupreez 2 роки тому
There was a rat in New York that trained turtles to fight crime, saw a documentary on it when i was a kid.
@kransencrates
@kransencrates 2 роки тому
That made me laug out loud in all this doom and gloom in the comments.
@crm9934
@crm9934 Рік тому
Underrated comment
@sridevimogilineedi1310
@sridevimogilineedi1310 Рік тому
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES
@Lush_Produce
@Lush_Produce Рік тому
I know that made a childrens cartoon and teenagers comic based off the documentary
@Sergeant_Stiffy
@Sergeant_Stiffy Рік тому
Wow sounds like an amazing documentary
@NorthwestNicholas
@NorthwestNicholas Рік тому
Think makes me think of corporate offices and their “open work environment” mentality. I always felt like a mouse packed into a over populated cage. They say open work environments aid communication between teams, but spending 9+ hours a day packed into a corporate office stressed me out more than I ever imagined.
@MrKoalaburger
@MrKoalaburger Рік тому
A former job I had tried that and everyone just put ear buds in lol
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 11 місяців тому
It's a punishment room, the reward is to get to an office. The "pit" is a fine place to visit but a terrible place to stay. Though I think the true reason "open plan" is used is bad management, they don't know how many people they'll need and just try to cram more people into the space that they have, open plan gets more bodies into a unit area.
@stuarthall3874
@stuarthall3874 11 місяців тому
There are times I very much enjoy working around other people in a communal environment and other times that I need space for myself. Of course providing that flexibility is an extra expense for a company. One would have to convince them that the benefits outweigh the costs.
@tomo1168
@tomo1168 10 місяців тому
@@Treblaine the open plan is much cheaper then closed offices. you can put in there much more people on the same area.
@dumyjobby
@dumyjobby 10 місяців тому
it's done so that there is collective oversight, this why if you don't work everybody notice. seems horrible
@Exitof99
@Exitof99 Рік тому
I had just over 50 rats at one time, thanks to a friend mixing up and putting two girls in the boys home. I had 10, 6 boys and 4 girls, and a couple weeks later there was over 30. I don't remember how the third pregnancy occurred. I had built a large cube in the living room with two plexiglass wall for the boys, which outnumbered the girls. Everyone was happy and healthy and no fights. The most incredible moment I saw was when one boy was taking the dry spaghetti from me and placing them equally next to his brothers/cousins. He literally would eye how many they had and once they had enough, he'd finally take some for himself.
@mrcontroversy222
@mrcontroversy222 Рік тому
I had a white rate named yo-yo. I could leave his cage open. He would never leave my game room. He would be all over the place. Up on shelves and under stuff. He would always come to me when I walked in or came home. Miss that little bastard.
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
Willard
@Exitof99
@Exitof99 Рік тому
@@mrcontroversy222 They truly are sweet creatures with big hearts. The mother of my brood was like that, free-reign in my room and would run up to me when I came in for scritches.
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
@@Exitof99 i had two as a kid, Pixie & Dixie, they were used rats, my folks were divorced & so my dads place became home to other peoples pets, critters that their kids neglected or got tired of, the rats had cages bul we let them out to explore all the time. so they were semi cage free free range good natured little cheese weasels
@HyenaOnTheRoad
@HyenaOnTheRoad Рік тому
I have 4 rats (and have had about 15 in total over the years). They are the sweetest friends, if socialized well. Little dogs.
@ghope5448
@ghope5448 4 роки тому
That awkward moment when the dominant male rat bullies you but then he lookin kinda cute
@DidObamaCare
@DidObamaCare 4 роки тому
Fuck. You got me 🤣
@FilipSrdic
@FilipSrdic 4 роки тому
no homo ahhaha
@justas423
@justas423 4 роки тому
Stockholm syndrome/abusive relationships.
@byua1835
@byua1835 4 роки тому
@@justas423 LMAO
@shmod4135
@shmod4135 4 роки тому
Bruh
@hana-chan420
@hana-chan420 5 років тому
>tries to conduct an allegorical study on over-population >ends up creating rat-cels and chad-rats
@Baltimore_Hood_Vines_2014
@Baltimore_Hood_Vines_2014 5 років тому
>fucking rat-cels
@extragroovy735
@extragroovy735 4 роки тому
@Jökull Tinni Ingvarsson more like rat-shaquishas
@mattyboi7491
@mattyboi7491 4 роки тому
One main difference the rats are much cleaner then the incels
@htf5555
@htf5555 4 роки тому
just like real life
@aestheticgarbage6671
@aestheticgarbage6671 4 роки тому
i mean, it was sort of inevitable that creating a social setting would lead to a hierarchy.
@moatddtutorials
@moatddtutorials Рік тому
Social media also strikes me as a sort of rat utopia as well. Inescapable, overpopulated and full of behavioural sinks.
@stuarthall3874
@stuarthall3874 11 місяців тому
Good point, though I think it is possible to escape. Maybe the pressure to be "connected" in that way is greater on the younger generations (i.e. inescapable) than I experience as a 53 y.o.?
@joeljustjazzing
@joeljustjazzing 11 місяців тому
@@stuarthall3874 yeah just smash up your device and your done, or maybe plug out your router and turn off your data.
@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman
@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman 10 місяців тому
not really... its more comparable to alcohol abuse than anything...its escapable
@brovid-19
@brovid-19 10 місяців тому
@@joeljustjazzing or butt stuff
@user-nf6nm8lz7t
@user-nf6nm8lz7t 10 місяців тому
Social media is of the devil. Has damn near ruined humanity especially the younger generations
@paulsmith5469
@paulsmith5469 Рік тому
The newest mouse utopia was on "horders" tv show. This guy loved rats so much he just let them take over the house. He slept in the shed in the backyard so they wouldn't lick his eyes for moisture while he slept.
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Рік тому
holy crap!!!!!
@salamantics
@salamantics 11 місяців тому
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Not being sarcastic, very well put.
@aygwm
@aygwm 6 місяців тому
Bruh
@wojakthecrusader1410
@wojakthecrusader1410 2 місяці тому
If he loves them so much they should just let them have their house, and you become homeless amirite fellas?
@robbertbobbert1177
@robbertbobbert1177 Місяць тому
What’s even wilder, is that after he got rid of the rats someone broke into his house and killed him. Guess he should’ve kept the rats
@joebob4091
@joebob4091 3 роки тому
That awkward moment when you make a rat utopia but forget to add the utopia so you just add more rat
@notevenjoe
@notevenjoe 3 роки тому
@@dtyj2815 rg NJ u it guy ugh ukuuuh
@Ohflipsnap
@Ohflipsnap 3 роки тому
@@dtyj2815 No, the food and water are the preset conditions in this experiment. The horrible stuff about segregation, rape and slaughter came as a result of not being able to cope with the changes to the rodents' natural way of life. You cannot have a utopia if the people within it are not enjoying it, and those rats clearly weren't. If anything, this is one of the most dystopian stories to ever exist.
@Ohflipsnap
@Ohflipsnap 3 роки тому
@@dtyj2815 You're missing my point. Rats are naturally scavengers, so when everything they need for scavenging is suddenly just available on a whim, the rats need to adjust their new living situations accordingly, but they don't really know how to do that. Calhoun created a utopia, yes, but that same utopia quickly dissolves into a dystopia since the rats cannot figure out how to live in their new environment in a way that is beneficial for everyone. A utopia is a world where everyone (or at the very least the ideal citizens) are living in relative harmony. These rats were not experiencing any of this, at all. The preset conditions are one of a utopia, yes, but a population that cannot adjust to that which goes against their very nature as rodents forces these utopias to quickly become dystopias. This is what I'm trying to say here. Maybe this isn't quite the same, but let's take Nazi Germany for example: It was suppose to be a utopia for the German people. World War II aside, Nazi Germany was anything but a utopia. This is because of the persecution towards jews and political opponents, and the obsessions over a "master race." Also the only people truly able to benefit from the Nazi system were of course Nazi party members, and even then it was only the ones who had the support of Hitler and his subordinates. Do you think people enjoyed having their friends and neighbors "disappear" overnight? Or even having to take part in the departure of their friends? Do you think they enjoyed watching others being arrested and killed in the streets en masse? Or having any of their criticisms of the system heavily censured and receiving death threats if they continued this opposition to the Nazi system? For a Nazi, their Germany must've felt like a utopia. For everyone else? A dystopia; Hell. They would've wanted to ditch the country soon as possible. Hell, in the Mouse Utopia Experiment, the rats tried to escape, but they couldn't so they had to cope with segregation. Obviously, that didn't work.
@AhmadPhilips
@AhmadPhilips 3 роки тому
@@dtyj2815 its not a utopia if you cant escape. Also they got nothing to do. Nothing new to explore. Just eat sleep have sex and fight.
@connorohare1808
@connorohare1808 3 роки тому
All Utopias produce the worst Hell
@alicequinones1717
@alicequinones1717 3 роки тому
He forgot to mention but a lot of the outcast males got into swords and anime
@taxevasion4870
@taxevasion4870 3 роки тому
Lmaoooo
@ckw4244
@ckw4244 3 роки тому
Hah I thought this was my comment! How weird
@thevisi0naryy
@thevisi0naryy 3 роки тому
Lol
@jackieweaver3884
@jackieweaver3884 3 роки тому
LMAOO
@colton7373
@colton7373 3 роки тому
@@ckw4244 lol
@TheReubenShow
@TheReubenShow Рік тому
I connected four fish tanks with 8 foot clear plastic pipes, they had been four separate worlds, two for goldfish, one for tetras, and one tank for a 12 inch pleco. The water is circulated between tanks and the whole system has one filter. The behavior stuff has been the most interesting. Two of the tanks are always crowded and two are underpopulated. Two goldfish readily take the tunnels, two stumble into them occasionally, and two won't go in. One goldfish likes living by herself with a hundred tetras and minnows, another alternates between a crowded tank and the ghost town next door. The giant pleco travels the 30 foot length to see a pleco in the far tank. The book says never put them together, but I guess it means never trap them together. Only one fish acted worse, a pink shark catfish. When the worlds came together, he realized what happened and went from tank to tank, beating up the goldfish.
@Arkansas532
@Arkansas532 Рік тому
Brilliant
@CriticalThinker27
@CriticalThinker27 Рік тому
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@woodyharrelson2624
@woodyharrelson2624 Рік тому
Pink shark catfish are generally assholes
@cerradin
@cerradin Рік тому
You could unironically write a scientific paper with this data
@TheReubenShow
@TheReubenShow Рік тому
@@cerradin I am keeping better data, now, since you mention it. We tried to use trail cameras to monitor the transits, but the cold blooded fishes don't trigger the sensor! I call the system The Metropolis.
@mariobroseins
@mariobroseins Рік тому
I think there were 2 key problems: lack of challenges and lack of activity. Too much challenge could led to stress, hopelessness and similar; similar with having no rest has bad effects too. However also the opposite too little or none leads to results like in the rat experiment. So fora healthy live, activity and challenges are needed. Like when people retire, they need hobbies, social life, physical activity and so on. Sitting only on a coach watching TV and snacking, even if it feels like I am so free, will surely end badly.
@mariobroseins
@mariobroseins Рік тому
I'm wondering if running wheels similar these for hamster were added the result would have been devastating. So there would have been an activity and aggression could have been consumed by running (maybe)
@humbertovargas1211
@humbertovargas1211 Рік тому
they are rats........
@AnonYmous-gg9oq
@AnonYmous-gg9oq Рік тому
Seems like the way we are headed now there is AI.
@therappingdog1117
@therappingdog1117 Рік тому
​@@humbertovargas1211 and? They are living beings just like we are
@MrKoalaburger
@MrKoalaburger Рік тому
That's my take away from this study too. What he created was a literal prison, not a city. (and the rats acted more like prisoners than city residents, too).
@fourfangrooster272
@fourfangrooster272 4 роки тому
Less dominant male rats: imma clap them cheeks Dominant male rats: sure thing
@jedisentinel4879
@jedisentinel4879 4 роки тому
Definetly the weridest part of it all.
@Spalbeert
@Spalbeert 4 роки тому
😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️
@gomibak514
@gomibak514 4 роки тому
ha big gae
@salvadorramirez4114
@salvadorramirez4114 4 роки тому
Maybe what we thought were the less dominant ones were actually the "pimps"
@gs-nq6mw
@gs-nq6mw 4 роки тому
That also happens at prison
@noahalien4665
@noahalien4665 4 роки тому
Basically near the end young having gone through extreme child abuse (neglect and physical) don’t want to have kids, and when they do have kids have no idea what they’re doing.
@donquesewilliamswilliams3497
@donquesewilliamswilliams3497 4 роки тому
Millenials
@DeandreSteven
@DeandreSteven 4 роки тому
@@donquesewilliamswilliams3497 i also got that feeling
@LumbrerasD27
@LumbrerasD27 4 роки тому
The explanation for the mental health issue of XXI century
@TheJasonjd11
@TheJasonjd11 4 роки тому
Daleth Lumbreras you’re such an edgelord you had to type in Roman numerals hahaha you sad fuck
@MaestreVV
@MaestreVV 4 роки тому
@@TheJasonjd11 wot
@knightsoftheroundbagel6254
@knightsoftheroundbagel6254 5 місяців тому
This proves that when locked in a room with rats, the rats do, in fact, make you crazy.
@perseus274
@perseus274 3 місяці тому
*This proves that, when living in a city with many people, the people do, in fact, make you crazy like them.
@Mysterysciencepiratedtheatre
@Mysterysciencepiratedtheatre Рік тому
It’s really nice to see content that is not the same old regurgitated top 10 lists found on countless other channels. This is both interesting and well done.
@guytorie
@guytorie 5 років тому
Calhoun sounds like a man who had a deep psychological need for The Sims. But unfortunately for him and those animals, The Sims didn't exist yet.
@feihtyt2063
@feihtyt2063 4 роки тому
Sims! The game that helps people not murder each other.... or kill innocent animals.... (Yes I know this still happens but people, just create a sim verison of them and kill that one. Repeatedly)
@SalahEddineH
@SalahEddineH 4 роки тому
@@feihtyt2063My sister was so good as killing Sims. She'd go full on genocide, by organising a party, having everyone come over, then wall them in and kill them in a house fire. She would also feed rotten food to her guests to poison them.. Yeah I should be worried, shouldn't I?
@feihtyt2063
@feihtyt2063 4 роки тому
@@SalahEddineH keep an eye on her. I kill someone people in sims, but not like.... that. Keep a eye on her
@deathzombee
@deathzombee 4 роки тому
@@SalahEddineH have her start a youtube channel
@parrotshootist3004
@parrotshootist3004 4 роки тому
He was associated with Eugenics groups. This wasn't an experiement as presented. Not when you look at those critters and our society and then look at things like the assocation of Orwell, 1984 and the Fabian Society found in 1884(also deeply assocaited with Eugenics) ..
@jacobdrum97
@jacobdrum97 6 років тому
"... he would need more data." Is rarely a comforting phrase to hear.
@snorlaxx420xx8
@snorlaxx420xx8 6 років тому
Jacob Drum I forget the name of the story, but this reminds me of a creepypasta where a father has no choice but to lock his family up in their basement with very little food to study their behavior for some fucked up science experiment.
@Nebularban
@Nebularban 6 років тому
+Shin Christzilla What's the name of the creepypasta?
@bigidiotdumbstupidguy9329
@bigidiotdumbstupidguy9329 6 років тому
Shin Christzilla Yo, please tell [the chat] us if/when you find/remember the name of the story. It sounds like a combo of SCP, the rat utopia, and parts of the MHE series or River God.
@jacobdrum97
@jacobdrum97 6 років тому
I looked it up, and it sounds like it's this one: creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Psychologist.
@deltoroperdedor3166
@deltoroperdedor3166 6 років тому
Shin Christzilla the Psychologist. Starving Dogs is a prequel to that story. The Harbinger Experiment is also interesting
@devenp.5508
@devenp.5508 11 місяців тому
As someone who grew up in the country and moved to the city I’ve found it extremely uncomfortable having so many people so close to me.
@meoff7602
@meoff7602 Рік тому
Being trapped in a box. No matter how much food and water you give. Is not Utopia. All this did was show that a limited space without the ability of expansion. Leads to violence. Space is just as important as food and water.
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 Рік тому
The study was flawed from the beginning! You are right. Can you guess another glaringly obvious "mistake" that would lead to a skewed conclusion? BTW, humans will not suffer this fate. We have a way out. BSC/PHDS/8&3
@notrius7754
@notrius7754 2 місяці тому
Mices didn't even reach 2/3 of the boxes population capacity, they could easily continue to reproduce as there was plenty of more space, its an issue of complete lack of any goal in existance, the mices had plenty of food, water and space to reproduce, they just didn't want to and decided to commit suicide.
@notrius7754
@notrius7754 2 місяці тому
@@cherilynnfisher5658 Have you even read the study? The autor said that the box had a population capacity of over 3000 mices, whilst the population started declining at around 2000
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 2 місяці тому
@@notrius7754 I have been studying U25 for over 40 years! It has been my life's work! I lead classes about it. You did not answer my question. Can you guess one or more of the glaring flaws in the original study? How much correlation/similarity do you think there is between the collapse of the mice and the collapse of humans?
@notrius7754
@notrius7754 2 місяці тому
@@cherilynnfisher5658 Well my guess for the flaw is that the experiment wasn't repeated but done only once instead. And the correlations are so many i don't even know how to begin with, i won't even name all of them since it would take too long, instead i will over generalise is: Industrial revolution, which in my belief was a tragic accident that was not supposed to happen to our race has led us to a point where mices were at the start of the experiment (at least for the western countries) basically unlimited food, water, electricity, warmth, mass housing, welfare programs and so on, this was not that much of an issue when life itself was still very hard in 19th century or when world wars happened, but when life became insanely easy and big wars stopped happening after WW2, our population boom happened which then ended and was met with population stagnation, or in some places (including my country) decline despite the fact that our living of standards remained mostly the same for this time, and we have just as much space and ability to reproduce just as we did before, yet we choose not to. The only places in the west where population is still rising (Like US and France) are only caused by mass migration to this countries (to US from Latin America and to France from Africa) its native population though is reproducing in very low numbers compared to more normal times in history of thier countries. In mices, the population broke down, started seperating each other, some mices became hyper-masculine, other hyper-feminine (there was also this whole thing about the "beautifull ones" which are basically what we people consider "transgenders" or "femboys" to be) violence, fear and stress was also in big increase, mices would have thier tails bitten or even be killed by other mices in numbers never observed in mices in thier normal living environments, which is also happening to us Humans. Now the best example is China, they industrialized quickly, population boom, then decline, society starts hating itself and tearing itself apart, people are seperating each other, men are becoming hyper-feminine, isolated, people don't want to reproduce, China is already facing an inevitable population collapse which at this point is unpreventable, Japan is experiencing this thing even more in fact where population decline is happening for 20 years already. This leads me to believe places like North America, Europe, China, South Korea or Japan and many others will be depopulated and made insignificant by the end of this century, and will be replaced by African countries, which might too experience thier fate when they become "developed" ultimately, no industrial society will ever last , the only thing that can keep those societies going is when they constantly fight wars and make life difficult for thier population, but ultimately, it would simply have been better off for everybody if industrial revolution never happened in the first place.
@RockyGems
@RockyGems 6 років тому
Oh sure, when he does it, he's "fascinating," but when I do it I'm "no longer welcome at Petsmart."
@Anhviet19
@Anhviet19 6 років тому
Rocky Gems try Petco
@gregnubody3871
@gregnubody3871 6 років тому
Petco puts animals that don't sell in a freezer to die.
@lauriebot3941
@lauriebot3941 5 років тому
Petco did nothing wrong...
@pizzabuffeyy8942
@pizzabuffeyy8942 5 років тому
I heard Petco doesn't sell pets
@AtaMarKat
@AtaMarKat 5 років тому
“Million Dollar Book Deal” vs “Fired, now get out, or I’m calling the cops.”
@vallisdaemonumofficial
@vallisdaemonumofficial 4 роки тому
*TURNED THE FRIGGIN RODENTS GAY*
@tkayshakur2500
@tkayshakur2500 4 роки тому
(Ruffles papers to get your attention)
@peterbills4129
@peterbills4129 4 роки тому
CITIES ARE TURNING THE FREAKIN' HUMANS GAY!
@MattKismet
@MattKismet 4 роки тому
Vallis Daemonum lmao
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 4 роки тому
*SLAPS TABLE IN CAPS*
@jaysonklein6018
@jaysonklein6018 4 роки тому
Rabbits have a place perchance to pansexuality... NOT because of "cities", but because the species have little differentiation between genders (rabbits be lookin androgynous).
@turnip4wutofficial
@turnip4wutofficial Рік тому
shoutout to this video for not only getting me into down the rabbit hole, but also inspiring me to cover this topic for an informative speech project in high school. watching this years later on the bus to my job and remembering the childlike wonder of learning new things of my own accord.
@pyropagerik
@pyropagerik 8 місяців тому
I loved the rats of nimh story as a child, I had no idea it was based on a real story.
@user-rr3ci3ky6w
@user-rr3ci3ky6w 9 днів тому
How did you hear this as a child ??
@pyropagerik
@pyropagerik 9 днів тому
@@user-rr3ci3ky6w Google search the book and movies "The rats of nimh" it was read to me at elementary school. I highly recommend the books before the movies.
@diegov1743
@diegov1743 День тому
​@@user-rr3ci3ky6w The experiment inspired a novel which inspired an animated movie. It has little to do with the real thing, NIMH makes the rats super smart instead of disturbed.
@cass_is_a_fork
@cass_is_a_fork 4 роки тому
Society turned the rats gay, what’s next? The frogs?
@seignee
@seignee 4 роки тому
*TAP WATER MADE THE FROGS GAY*
@Professionaldumbass6998
@Professionaldumbass6998 4 роки тому
Nah the frogs are getting turned by the water, not society
@poppedcorn652
@poppedcorn652 4 роки тому
Hoomans gey
@chloequattlebaum997
@chloequattlebaum997 4 роки тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/cXqDgHl5mW2irGw.html
@nipsarecomingoff1902
@nipsarecomingoff1902 4 роки тому
Obama did that years ago. I got the shirt that proves it.
@jonbainmusicvideos8045
@jonbainmusicvideos8045 4 роки тому
Must have been 1 rodent going: "I think there is a conspiracy here, we're living in a matrix." But the others reckoned him a conspiracy theorist and bit his ears off.
@maisies515
@maisies515 4 роки тому
Jon Bain makes complete sense
@misaamane2850
@misaamane2850 4 роки тому
The human was literally just standing there lol
@duckgo2296
@duckgo2296 4 роки тому
Neo the rat never got to see the morpheus behind the experiment. Rip
@rhiannonhooper1508
@rhiannonhooper1508 3 роки тому
And the creator just stood over and took notes..
@ryhanzfx1641
@ryhanzfx1641 3 роки тому
The problem is that its the opposite, they all knew the matrix aka the humans and fake environment there, just that some think its either controlled or not, but rats all have instinct anyway so it doesn't matter
@mrxinnovations809
@mrxinnovations809 Рік тому
wonderfully made video , one can really tell how much effort went into making this.
@kskeel1124
@kskeel1124 Рік тому
Funny that no film or pictures have been released to the public to this day...
@ikannunaplays
@ikannunaplays 10 місяців тому
It was a experiment to influence society, you think they're going to release much of anything. There is no coincidence they made a movie in 1982 called "The Secret of NIMH" featuring lab rats that escaped their cages after being altered genetically.
@casadegaitan
@casadegaitan 4 місяці тому
@yourmum771
@yourmum771 4 роки тому
2% of the comments: actually helpful advice and information 98%: *lol rat has the big gæ*
@bobbycarroll7161
@bobbycarroll7161 4 роки тому
*Faks.....LoL jk
@Hath.0
@Hath.0 4 роки тому
Pretty much the entire internet summed up in one comment.
@lanzervynbelsonda128
@lanzervynbelsonda128 4 роки тому
Yup, still digging the comment section for that 2%. The comments section is so overpopulated with LOL LE BIG GAE commenters it's really just one big circlejerk utopia for it.
@GayBrain
@GayBrain 4 роки тому
I really wish there are more creative people in this comment section.
@tazmania7785
@tazmania7785 4 роки тому
@Arya They don't even know they're part of the Utopia.
@sadisticanonymity
@sadisticanonymity 4 роки тому
“What are we gonna do tonight, Brain?” “The same thing we do every night, Pinky.” *”Clap some gay rat cheeks.”*
@stvxofcorpses
@stvxofcorpses 4 роки тому
this comment needs to get to the top of the comments 😂😂😂
@who_is_oni
@who_is_oni 4 роки тому
Yesssiiiiirrrrrr
@scott8591
@scott8591 4 роки тому
Lolz.
@carolinejohnson6402
@carolinejohnson6402 4 роки тому
Try to take over the world
@TheFatestPat
@TheFatestPat 4 роки тому
Zort!
@colonelbiscuits8564
@colonelbiscuits8564 10 місяців тому
Regularly take breaks from society for your health. Go camping without your phone. Try an isolation tank. Take a trip somewhere natural and untouristy. Go somewhere where you can let your animal body breathe and make sounds and move like it wants to. That and finding what kind of role/work/vocation speaks to our soul seems like the answer to this societal problem in our modern model of humanity.
@Christopher-nl2kb
@Christopher-nl2kb 10 місяців тому
And be careful too... anything can happen camping alone...
@beeawesome2869
@beeawesome2869 9 місяців тому
I think many people including me have accidentally created similar experiments. Rats and mice breed quick. I got 2 boy rats for my kids. They were living in my daughter's doll house. All went well and it was cute until one of the boys turned out to be a girl and had babies in the doll house. Of course it was too small for 2 adults and a litter. I built a large habitat for them all and the "experiment" may have gone on much longer but the mother mouse kept escaping at night. My "cage" wasn't that great though it was large. They were all taken to the pet store after she escaped and ate most of my weed that I used for my insomnia. She must have ate some from her behavior. But a year later I found a lot of it buried in carpet in a corner under furniture. She had stashed it. I'm glad for the experience but they were overwhelming for me to care for. Another time I had two hamsters. Once they were adults they would fight. Get this, I learned by accident that if I rythmicly played a little drum i had they would stop fighting, sit side by side, bow there heads with their little hands together as in prayer. It was one of the strongest things I had ever accidentally caused. If you have hamsters you should try the drum with them and see what happens.
@r3fus32d13
@r3fus32d13 6 місяців тому
Lol the weed part was so unexpected. Made me laugh
@fireblood280
@fireblood280 3 місяці тому
What the hell are you smoking?
@beeawesome2869
@beeawesome2869 3 місяці тому
@@fireblood280 I'll tell you if you tell me first.
@whattheshit4936
@whattheshit4936 4 роки тому
"in a natural setting, those which find no social niche will leave the colony - but in this experiement, immigration is impossible." man i felt that lol
@Benny5889
@Benny5889 4 роки тому
Emigration*
@EzraMerr
@EzraMerr 4 роки тому
It's too fucking hard lol, Being from a "developed country" (UK) the only places I can migrate to legally are other European countries which are almost similar Socialist shitholes
@7schlafer886
@7schlafer886 4 роки тому
@@EzraMerr coincidentally all developed countries offer a social system, maybe there is a connection you are too dumb to see ;)
@richardroberson2564
@richardroberson2564 4 роки тому
@@7schlafer886 Yeah, like Russia and china. Great places to live.
@kingaha3657
@kingaha3657 4 роки тому
@@richardroberson2564 Russia yes China no
@archer4514
@archer4514 4 роки тому
Chad Rats : Yo get outta here or else Incel rats : You gon make me act up, you gon make me do something I’m gonna regret
@sudipanand7898
@sudipanand7898 4 роки тому
😂😂😂
@timbroski4487
@timbroski4487 4 роки тому
My middle name is rat
@limicoline
@limicoline 4 роки тому
*ACT UP BY CITY GIRLS INTENSIFIES* _-act up bouta get snatched up-_
@IQbelowaverage
@IQbelowaverage 4 роки тому
omllll💀💀
@JD-os2kr
@JD-os2kr 4 роки тому
Basically yes
@k0walsk
@k0walsk Рік тому
Props. Fascinating. Scary. Can't help but compare myself and view my life choices through this lens. Having chosen to live abroad, away from my family and main friends for the past 10 years and foreseeable future, I cannot help but imagine I'd be stuck in the middle section if I had no way to travel. Add the frequent passivity in my days and you have one uncomfortable k0walsk thinking he should start recording himself.
@dinkyduffy5026
@dinkyduffy5026 Рік тому
I too was viewing myself and the past choices of myself and those around me from this perspective . Although we are not identical creatures we have formed similar habits to these creatures. 😮
@TheB00Man
@TheB00Man Рік тому
"The Secret of NIMH" would be a great selection for Drag Queen story hour.
@user-bs4kg7db5v
@user-bs4kg7db5v 4 роки тому
everybody be talking about the rats being gay while I'm here thinking this concept of a whole species self destructing within a few generations is low key terrifying
@Wearywastrel
@Wearywastrel 4 роки тому
It's definitely terrifying. It's also happening.
@TheTriggerhappyhippi
@TheTriggerhappyhippi 4 роки тому
@@KDGaming175 ok unoriginal trend follower. I'm a millennial BTW.
@alabastardmasterson
@alabastardmasterson 4 роки тому
@@TheTriggerhappyhippi there are similarities but your "examples" aren't well thought out
@TheTriggerhappyhippi
@TheTriggerhappyhippi 4 роки тому
@@alabastardmasterson how so.
@ybunnygurl
@ybunnygurl 4 роки тому
@@TheTriggerhappyhippi metro sexually? What year is this 2002? The reason most of us millennials and younger people are not having kids is we can't afford them; we have to have a side gig, or hold two jobs to pay for housing, utilities and food. That rules out time for dating, and socializing. Those who tend to do well now are lucky, or living off mom and dad (boomers kids). I'm 34 and this is my life and Community in the DC area.
@user-zf2gy7mr4t
@user-zf2gy7mr4t 4 роки тому
“In this final stage called Death, Calhoun noted that the female mice began to eat hot chip, charge de phone, lie, and Twerk. As this period went on, certain males would begin to make music citing the movie Scott Pilgrim Vs The World as somehow being closely tied with the females current status”
@fintanmathewes5587
@fintanmathewes5587 4 роки тому
Bpd and ecstacy...
@user-zf2gy7mr4t
@user-zf2gy7mr4t 4 роки тому
Fintan Mathewes I hate the I know where this goes
@fintanmathewes5587
@fintanmathewes5587 4 роки тому
@@user-zf2gy7mr4t i mean, the song is OK, but some people took it too seriously Both in veiwing it as seriously anti-woman, and as something to fawn over and protect. Its just a musical shitpost, playing as a critic on a specific style somd people.follow
@yoko3173
@yoko3173 4 роки тому
Bright dyed hair but dead inside.......
@hotlinerevachol5436
@hotlinerevachol5436 4 роки тому
@@yoko3173 Plan B lifetime supply
@eddiebendigo7317
@eddiebendigo7317 Рік тому
Five years later and it still bugs the hell out of me that he uses "mouse" and "rat" interchaneably
@Balrog-tf3bg
@Balrog-tf3bg Місяць тому
Like for real, idk when the “rats” became mice
@benshapiro9731
@benshapiro9731 24 дні тому
I had sexual relations with ur mother, good sir
@dembeku346
@dembeku346 3 роки тому
Rat: *bullies one other rat* Other rat: "Uwu harder daddy" Rat: *confused bullying*
@dananaditya9347
@dananaditya9347 3 роки тому
*bullies harder
@user-fy5sg9rg7d
@user-fy5sg9rg7d 3 роки тому
@@dananaditya9347 bruh
@io4340
@io4340 3 роки тому
o w o
@hola-tg9nl
@hola-tg9nl 2 роки тому
i haven't started watching the video and reading this without context is concerning
@jonnythedemon
@jonnythedemon 2 роки тому
*confused graping*
@DIABETOR
@DIABETOR 3 роки тому
I clicked this video because the thumbnail looks like a quesadilla but I stayed for the psychological terror
@A-No-One
@A-No-One 3 роки тому
I like pain
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 3 роки тому
That's what's wrong with their society... They don't have El Queso Bandido to save them.
@seamusmckeon9109
@seamusmckeon9109 3 роки тому
Now I’m hungry
@dizzyfett5495
@dizzyfett5495 2 роки тому
I came for the psychological terror and stayed for the comments lol
@jlllx
@jlllx 2 роки тому
never change
@exegotbeats
@exegotbeats 2 місяці тому
This is so crazy, i wonder why youtube doesnt recommend more things like this
@jayceejr85
@jayceejr85 Рік тому
I still watch The Secrets Of NIMH as an adult. Great movie knowing the history and events that inspired it.
@motherfuckerunlimited69
@motherfuckerunlimited69 6 років тому
Ratatouille 2 looks good so far
@kouyasakurada5547
@kouyasakurada5547 6 років тому
Check out the prequel, Ratatoing.
@buffalowill1614
@buffalowill1614 6 років тому
Rad the Rattata word
@just_going_mads
@just_going_mads 6 років тому
Rata2e
@thequestmaster2008
@thequestmaster2008 6 років тому
You said it gun sound!
@gabriellagoodyear9914
@gabriellagoodyear9914 6 років тому
What about flushed away 2 you uncultured swine.
@EragonShadelayerGR
@EragonShadelayerGR 4 роки тому
"Their behavioural repertoire became largely confined to eating, drinking, sleeping and grooming" 《Insert quarantine joke here》
@lmao2302
@lmao2302 4 роки тому
After quarantine everybody gonna be a snack.
@peepeeweewee1573
@peepeeweewee1573 4 роки тому
Wheres the react where the guy laughs and then he realizes a further implication of what he saw and his face drops and his eyes go wide
@somedude8346
@somedude8346 4 роки тому
Quarantine has me so deprived from human contact to the point where the idea of passionately making out and cuddling with my guy friends doesnt make me feel weird
@gypsygypsy4561
@gypsygypsy4561 4 роки тому
@@somedude8346 bruh what?
@skrungly6839
@skrungly6839 4 роки тому
@@somedude8346 I felt that
@ineptpacific3974
@ineptpacific3974 Рік тому
Considering the timeline for these experiments, I wonder if this influenced the ideas of the anti technology unabomber at all. The parallels between the experiment and modern society would’ve been certainly clear to a man like him.
@TheClownWorldShow
@TheClownWorldShow Рік тому
He was right.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Рік тому
I’m sure he already had much of these thoughts. I wouldn’t say influenced maybe just justified.
@silly_on_
@silly_on_ 11 місяців тому
E
@thisiscarltones
@thisiscarltones 7 місяців тому
E
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 6 місяців тому
Based Uncle Ted
@aquanote2694
@aquanote2694 7 місяців тому
You could’ve gone on for hours and I would’ve been tuned in.. this is wild af
@jaaykaay
@jaaykaay 4 роки тому
Maan.. Stuart Little 2 looks *intense*
@crazyfulla
@crazyfulla 4 роки тому
yeah theres a reason they had to redo the script.. original version was not too family friendly
@aleixiaprof7155
@aleixiaprof7155 4 роки тому
Actually, it’s a prequel to the first Stuart Little. Stuart is raised in one of the Universes and must overcome the abuse, trauma, and psychologicL horror that haunts him throughout adolescence. After being kicked out by his mother and brutally assaulted by fellow mice in the Utopia, an elder mouse tells him of the simulation he is living in, and that his life is a lie and that he must escape. Months of training and hiding prepare him for the escape from his Utopian society and revolt against collectivism and the matrix he is a slave to. He violently attacks his brothers and the mice around him, slaughtering hundreds of innocent women and children in cold-blooded revenge. He finally breaks through the walls of his city, and set out to murder his human captors. However, he manages to get hit on the head in a comedic fashion. From the trauma, he has been given amnesia and increased intellegence. In a Truman-esque fashion, producers of a popular television show take him in and force him to relive his life in a forced ideal simulation with his family, the Littles. Film theorists say that Stuart Little 3 will expand on the further plot-points. He will remember his past, become his rage full self again, and discover the truth of his television series currently being filmed about him. The final moment we will see of him will be him unable to escape and committing suicide inside of a washing machine with help from enemy Snowbelle.
@imanuelpeter8897
@imanuelpeter8897 4 роки тому
@@aleixiaprof7155 wtf
@ZeFluffyKnight
@ZeFluffyKnight 4 роки тому
You mean 4?
@endsieg302
@endsieg302 4 роки тому
isn't there already a stuart little 2?
@biel1351
@biel1351 2 роки тому
then the outcast realized he could cook and manipulated a human into opening a restaurant so he could cook in Paris.
@duifmethoed
@duifmethoed 2 роки тому
They should make a movie about that
@user-ix7ew8yp2k
@user-ix7ew8yp2k 2 роки тому
@@duifmethoed well....
@nicolascoast9653
@nicolascoast9653 2 роки тому
I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERRENCE
@ppurpleduck
@ppurpleduck 2 роки тому
@@duifmethoed movie would never take off. probably be forgotten
@Josuh
@Josuh 2 роки тому
@Coo Chi Bold of you to assume little kids would be remotely interested in watching this when there's epic fornite funny moments amogus fnf compilation #57
@davidhoracek6758
@davidhoracek6758 11 місяців тому
Modern-day versions of these experiments should focus on ways that we could adjust the dense environments of mice so they could stay healthy and functioning properly even with high density. It seems like Calhoun wanted to engineer pain and doom, and he succeeded. I would want to engineer satisfaction and flourishing. I bet it's doable with some architectural tweaks. It's strange that we never tried. It's like scientists don't want to even consider the possibility of an actual utopia. Somehow the most disturbing thing I found in this video was the banner ad at 23:09. Слава Україні!
@Briskeeeen
@Briskeeeen 7 місяців тому
He did, his later experiments were focused on trying to reverse the behavior sinks. Nobody ever seems to care about those experiments though
@azrasashima3733
@azrasashima3733 Рік тому
his statement at the end of the death squared segment really describes the current landscape of humanity.
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 Рік тому
Humanity has a way out. BSC/PHDS/8&3
@EIlmo
@EIlmo 10 місяців тому
​@@cherilynnfisher5658what?
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 10 місяців тому
@@EIlmo Robust discussions of the differences and similarities between mouse and human behavior in a U25 environment never ended. Note: The original mouse studies had some glaring flaws! The mice in the studies had no "control" over their environment and were forced to just "react" to behavioral sink eroding and destroying their society. Humans are WAY different! We can do what mice can't! We have the capability to engineer our environment and even whole societies to achieve desired outcomes. "BSC/PHDS/8&3" is the way that humans do this. It is the actual "Recipe for Civilization".
@EIlmo
@EIlmo 10 місяців тому
@@cherilynnfisher5658 I still don't understand what U25, PHDS and 8&3 mean.
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 10 місяців тому
@@EIlmo NOTE: What follows is seriously incomplete! Just the tip of an iceberg! "BSC/PHDS/8&3" is known in my circles as the actual "Recipe for Human Civilizations"; How they rise, and how they fall. Here's a loose (Real "LOOSE"!) translation; "BSC"= Sometimes a LOOSE reference to "Building Sustainable Civilization". NOTE: BSC also has some other interesting meanings. "PHDS"= Sometimes a LOOSE reference to intellectual critical thinking processes. The knowledge and wisdom necessary to analyse data, and manipulate outcomes. PHDS also has other interesting meanings. "8"= Sometimes it's not a number! It's also a shape used to denote "repeating loops" of predictable patterns. We can learn from history. We can learn from past achievements or mistakes, and change course! This is why knowledge of history is so important! Again, 8 can have other meanings. "3"= Sometimes LOOSELY used to denote the 3 parts of a timeline; the past, present, and future, or the beginning, middle, and end of some era. Of course "3" can have other meanings. I already know that I have now left you with more questions than answers. GOOD! STAY CURIOUS! "Some people have some of the answers. Nobody has all of the answers. Way too many people are not even asking the right questions"! In order to avoid the tragedy of losing our entire civilization to the "Big Bad 3" of Insanity, Stupidity, and Apathy, we as a species must come together to "solve our problems"! Blaming, and killing each other for all the things that are going wrong is NOT a "solution"! That is just behavioral sink, and we know where that leads. . . p.s. U25= "Universe 25"
@MrAceMcGee
@MrAceMcGee 3 роки тому
"...on day 690, the rats seemed to have developed a religion. Building paper mache statues that appeared to resemble the likeness of Calhoun."
@azaleaslight7243
@azaleaslight7243 3 роки тому
Too FUNNY Thankyou 🙌🌞
@feralgecko9727
@feralgecko9727 3 роки тому
I read this in his voice
@sharkn3rd
@sharkn3rd 3 роки тому
LMAOOOO
@Anino_Makata
@Anino_Makata 3 роки тому
Pay homage to All Father Calhoun! Father to all ratkind!
@mikeoxmall3847
@mikeoxmall3847 3 роки тому
He would be the boogey man they would all fear and resent If they knew what their natural,lives were supposed to be like!
@ultrafer5022
@ultrafer5022 5 років тому
I'm sure this guy would have loved to play Sims
@Sensiav703
@Sensiav703 5 років тому
It certainly would have been a better use of his time.
@codybess1288
@codybess1288 5 років тому
Come on that's not fair to say...everyone loves the Sims
@lemightypants327
@lemightypants327 5 років тому
AI does not compare to real animal social behavior
@codybess1288
@codybess1288 5 років тому
@@lemightypants327 you're right you can only program an animal to do exact things in exact scenarios and the only way to know for sure would would happen in thoses exact scenarios is to do live trials programmed trials for animal experementarions will never be ground breaking the can only be preprogrammed to what the programmer thinks would happen
@endurabledude4264
@endurabledude4264 5 років тому
@@codybess1288 digest.bps.org.uk/2005/11/02/why-perform-psychology-experiments-on-rats/
@radicalundoing
@radicalundoing 4 місяці тому
Great videos, man. People need to know about this stuff. Thank you.
@maxxflame
@maxxflame Рік тому
This channel blew tf up what the hell congrats 🎉
@chickenpermission1861
@chickenpermission1861 2 роки тому
Okay, for everyone commenting on how, “well, duh, of course they were depressed, they were bored, why didn’t he think of that!” He actually did! His later experiments were all focused on trying to fix the behavioral sink issues of his firsts, and involved giving the mice things to do. This is actually where the Author of Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH (the book Secret of NIMH was based on) pulls much of his inspiration! The rat utopia the rats from the book sought to make was based on these later experiments. He even got the name of the main character, Mrs Frisby, from the Frisby Calhoun kept on his lab door for when he needed a little bit of fun too! The problem is that no one really cared too much about Calhouns later experiments, with some fellows saying, “ everyone wanted to hear the diagnosis, no one wanted to hear the cure.” And the fact that they weren’t even mentioned in the video kinda irks me.
@yugimumoto1
@yugimumoto1 2 роки тому
Yeah. But Fred usually goes for the bigger hole leaving out the smaller less important subjects. As the experiments as you mentioned were not popular, It would make sense to not cover it as it had less of an effect on the nation's psyche outside of "The rats of NIMH" (great book and movie I might add). For example his video on the SCP foundation mainly covers the original controversy with no update on the lesser arguments in the community or newer ones that have cropped up. I believe by the time he made his Mother Horse Eyes video the book had unofficially been cancelled as you can tell from the responses on the subreddit. I don't think Fred does it deliberately because he has a certain image he wants to show (In fact he has denied this on his second channel), It more had to do that those later experiments and stories would be ground for an entirely different video, and sometimes (especially in this case) there isn't enough content for an hour or half hour video (the general length of this series)
@susanivy3619
@susanivy3619 2 роки тому
@@benchoflemons398 short response
@TheTriggerhappyhippi
@TheTriggerhappyhippi 2 роки тому
@@susanivy3619 user tag
@idrisa7909
@idrisa7909 2 роки тому
Kinda annoyed this video didn't mention rat park, which I do get because its a separate experiment with different researchers, but it's strikingly similar to me in regard to aspects of what provoked it and the difference in result
@scottsmith7969
@scottsmith7969 2 роки тому
So did giving the rats activities change the results of the experiment by reducing the social sink?
@KevinoftheCosmos
@KevinoftheCosmos 4 роки тому
This is the most fascinating documentary on Detroit I've seen yet.
@JACKSTAY
@JACKSTAY 4 роки тому
Kevin Carpenter wait a minute
@GM-qq1wi
@GM-qq1wi 4 роки тому
I've been laughing at this comment for 2 hours.
@entropyfan9417
@entropyfan9417 4 роки тому
BITCH STOP EXPOSING OUR CITY
@dboot8886
@dboot8886 4 роки тому
"Ever since the cheese factories shut down, Hold up... EY FOOL! FOREVER REPPIN' VELVEETA LANE SWISS GANG. WICHO CHUCKY CHEESE LOOKIN ASS... Sorry, like I said..."
@ktlee08
@ktlee08 4 роки тому
Well played
@NymphTheDanube
@NymphTheDanube Рік тому
Chock-full of information! Although his first experiment was rudimentary and in a small scale I find it to have had the most raw and uncompromising data.
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 Рік тому
By the time he got to U25, his most famous experiment, many of us had pointed out multiple serious flaws in the studies. The BSC was born, and the experiments and studies never stopped. They're still ongoing today. U25 was just the beginning! After 40+ years of this stuff, I can tell you it's really exciting what we are still discovering! BSC/PHDS/8&3
@biscottigelato8574
@biscottigelato8574 7 місяців тому
@@cherilynnfisher5658 Can you elaborate on BSC / PHDS / 8&3 and what they are?
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 7 місяців тому
@@biscottigelato8574 The actual genuine first use and meaning of "BSC" is not to be disclosed or discussed openly in public because the original whole deciphered phrase is now a password used by a tiny band of exclusive elite intellectuals who know about the original conferences where it was born. For colloquial use (like for you) the accepted secondary meaning is; "BSC: Behavioral Sink Conference". There were many more conferences discussing and debating the Universe 25 findings. These never ended! Over the years, "BSC" became an inside joke, of sorts, because so many do not know what it actually means! People started speculating and making stuff up. This has been loads of fun! "PHDS/8&3" refers to stuff that has to do with human evolution and civilization. With it, we have a desirable future. Without it we go extinct! Again, constantly being discussed in never ending conferences with global implications and consequences for everyone. Many blessings! Stay curious! Please stay safe and be well.
@bobbarclay316
@bobbarclay316 10 місяців тому
Its easy to notice behaviors in other mammals that seem to mimic human behavior. But humans are not only mammals. Despite what behaviorists may tell you, humans also exhibit the behavior of ethical decision making. Humans can and do decide to change their behavior in ways and for reasons that would never occur to non human mammals. Thats why we regulate damn near everything.
@Christopher-nl2kb
@Christopher-nl2kb 10 місяців тому
That's not true...
@Happyhenzo
@Happyhenzo 9 місяців тому
@@Christopher-nl2kbit quite literally is true
@heronekkotheanimer7386
@heronekkotheanimer7386 9 місяців тому
That is true for a small percent of people, most just seem to behave like a mindless animal. So we wont go extinct thanks to our intellect, but sure will go through very hard times thanks to it.
@nickshinault870
@nickshinault870 2 роки тому
Imagine how this would have played out if the rats had discovered alcohol
@cirroc213
@cirroc213 2 роки тому
The same but faster
@idrisa7909
@idrisa7909 2 роки тому
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park
@randomanun4278
@randomanun4278 2 роки тому
I'd imagine q potato famine would ensue...
@idrisa7909
@idrisa7909 2 роки тому
@@randomanun4278 dude wtf
@nickshinault870
@nickshinault870 2 роки тому
@@idrisa7909 that was actually very informative, thank you!
@heathermasonfan
@heathermasonfan 3 роки тому
I like how he didn't account for the fact that having nothing to do but eat sleep and reproduce in a small place might just drive any creature insane
@heathermasonfan
@heathermasonfan 3 роки тому
@@mitchellfrancis8978 that is true, however I still think being trapped in one place would affect them, seeing as how I didn't leave the house much before the covid quarantine but when the quarantine happened I was itching to get out
@gutkatze8472
@gutkatze8472 3 роки тому
@@mitchellfrancis8978 he even sayd that mice that cant find anything to do there normale leave and search for a new colony. Wich would solve overpopulation and the behaverial sink problem
@TheUltraDinoboy
@TheUltraDinoboy 3 роки тому
Rats need enrichment
@WillowTDog
@WillowTDog 3 роки тому
@@mitchellfrancis8978 Except rats are quite intelligent. Not as much as, say crows or dolphins, but still very smart. Not to mention, these days, we know that almost any animal needs enrichment materials to be happy. Things to interact with are essential. Almost all mammals need to be able to play.
@MegaBanne
@MegaBanne 3 роки тому
Even Karl Marx recognized the importance of work to keep any human healthy.
@shirleyandrews1152
@shirleyandrews1152 Рік тому
I remember this study from my college yrs. saw Calhoun’s study & decided to have only 2 children. Of the 2, I have 1 gr’child. I’m doing better than most🥰 I’m 82 now & have seen this experiment come, almost, to fruition. Sad😪
@alexisandersen1392
@alexisandersen1392 6 місяців тому
20:50 I like how the subtitles which often differ from what is actually said, crescendo into full on contradicting even the plain text on the screen being read.
@kingkooki7761
@kingkooki7761 4 роки тому
Imagine being the person that had to count all the mice and rats
@melainymcdonough1986
@melainymcdonough1986 4 роки тому
"1..2..3.....umm 10..20.30 ..100? Lets just do approximately"
@evocative01
@evocative01 3 роки тому
Imagine the smell
@kingkooki7761
@kingkooki7761 3 роки тому
evocative01 oh god I didn’t even think about that
@TonyStarkCLC
@TonyStarkCLC 3 роки тому
The calculations are made by sampling the average number of mice in several determined areas, and that's how you get the approximate number of individuals.
@TonyStarkCLC
@TonyStarkCLC 3 роки тому
@Caleb nobody is going to great lengths so as to count each one of the mice. So sampling the number of mice on several locations and averaging the number of all samples, gives an approximate, yet closely accurate number with a minimum margin of error, the same way statistics average the samples of representative populations in polls and census.
@andreyleonel255
@andreyleonel255 4 роки тому
Props to the Rat Class who gonne just like "Yo, i'm gonna just chill and play games, walk slow, live life by myself" and ended up being the healthiest class in there.
@friedlemons5201
@friedlemons5201 3 роки тому
the actual chad rats
@Smokiezzzable
@Smokiezzzable 3 роки тому
Lol if we as a human race thinks dying as a breed and being so unhappy with life we avoid social contacts being a success... Yes then your right 🤔👍
@andreyleonel255
@andreyleonel255 3 роки тому
@@Smokiezzzable I am talking about mice, in a failed Mouse Utopia You know that, right?
@Able542
@Able542 3 роки тому
@@Smokiezzzable If you think mice have the exact same social intelligence and intellect as humans and thus this experiment is undeniable proof of humanity's demise... Yes then, you're right.
@Able542
@Able542 3 роки тому
@Michael Scott Just because people act a fool online doesn't justify comparing humanity to a shite experiment because it's pessimistic. The people who say 'It's the internet, respect isn't here' say that to justify that they are just assholes online. And no, I'm not new.
@imjustsam1745
@imjustsam1745 11 місяців тому
What I would be interested in is how different his results might have been if he'd used a species that engages in cooperative hunting. If my understanding of human evolution is to date, it was when our ancestors started cooperative hunting that we became hominids. I come from an engineering not biological science background but, I never thought of rodents as having cooperation. I'm not sure what I would expect it to change just observing that I find my dog relatable, I believe she and I understand each other very well. I don't know how human rodents think by contrast.
@briggs5569
@briggs5569 9 місяців тому
Have watched this a few times. Always fascinating
@karenabrams8986
@karenabrams8986 3 роки тому
What i got out of that is the way we design prisons makes people sicker.
@aWomanFreed
@aWomanFreed 3 роки тому
And now we know why
@wilmagregg3131
@wilmagregg3131 3 роки тому
well duh prison is a punishment and so to avoid back breaking labour or torture of the old days they just make everything ever so slightly shitte so it punishes people in a more subtle way.
@agares-kun872
@agares-kun872 3 роки тому
Nahhh, the structure of prisons is different. The structure of these Utopias doesn't focus solely on enclosure that you see in prisons. Population growth in an unhindered society is what most likely causes the changes in behavior. You don't see that in a prison where reproduction is not a thing.
@wilmagregg3131
@wilmagregg3131 3 роки тому
@@agares-kun872 yeah i ment more of saying the effects of confined living and relativly semilar in lack of stimulation though even the most crappy prisons tend to have free librarys at least now days
@HorkSupreme
@HorkSupreme 3 роки тому
It's one of the most torturous things we can do to people but somehow it isn't seem as cruel or unusual.
@phiro4305
@phiro4305 3 роки тому
I knew New Yorkers were weird but this is on a whole other level
@MrSuperJayJay84
@MrSuperJayJay84 3 роки тому
😂😂
@bunnybunowo5967
@bunnybunowo5967 3 роки тому
We aren't weird, it's just taxes...😎 WHY THE FUCK DO WE PAY TO MUCH FUCKING TAXES AHHHGHHJRUFHDFH
@hah-vj7hc
@hah-vj7hc 3 роки тому
@@bunnybunowo5967 You seem weird
@acek2016
@acek2016 3 роки тому
Defender DON yeah
@Thekingkhari
@Thekingkhari 3 роки тому
Lmao
@JACKWEASEL
@JACKWEASEL Місяць тому
This study has absolutely fascinated me! Some crazy parallels to today.
@dx5soundlabs939
@dx5soundlabs939 Рік тому
Its not terribly difficult to draw parallels with modern society
@CanadianTopG
@CanadianTopG 2 роки тому
He was able to easily distinguish the outcast males by their neckbeards and fedoras.
@davehoward3645
@davehoward3645 2 роки тому
Don’t forget about the ones dressed in black and colored hair
@youdontknowme2913
@youdontknowme2913 2 роки тому
@@davehoward3645 goth?
@davehoward3645
@davehoward3645 2 роки тому
YOUDONTKNOWME and Antifa and the loke
@youdontknowme2913
@youdontknowme2913 2 роки тому
@@davehoward3645 ahhh okok
@fpopee
@fpopee 2 роки тому
Along with shitty overpriced craft beer
@Iyiouseismouse
@Iyiouseismouse 5 років тому
I had pet rats when I was younger and a few mice once also. One thing that I remember is that having a wheel was important not only for them to stay fit but to burn off excess energy and not get bored or depressed. I wonder if having a bunch of wheels in there would have helped things?
@KelniusTV
@KelniusTV 5 років тому
The dumb thing is, you're not a scientist... but I think you're right. Where was the recreation?
@joserobinho356
@joserobinho356 5 років тому
This is why utopia is impossible. If something has no reason to work as it is completely provided for, eventually the system will fail.
@danielgockerell
@danielgockerell 5 років тому
You’re right. They only had basic living needs. Nothing else. Although i wonder if all a bunch of mice treadmills would’ve done is just prolong their inevitable fate.
@danielgockerell
@danielgockerell 5 років тому
Nope. Wait that didn’t make sense. I meant prolong their lives until they eventually would’ve ended up like they did regardless.
@danielgockerell
@danielgockerell 5 років тому
Ok I’m fucking too stupid to comment lol
@JulianHibbert
@JulianHibbert 10 місяців тому
Wow, mind blowing!!! Great content thanks!
@caseythompson9561
@caseythompson9561 Рік тому
I think it's interesting that the rats behavior improved after they were given more to do. On one hand, that tracks...on the other they had to be given something to do. Similarly, it's like that in life. All of our national and state parks, owned and allowed, our roadways are owned and allowed, our business's are practically owned and definitely allowed etc etc.
@NotHardcore95
@NotHardcore95 3 роки тому
“The rats became hyper intelligent, developing a nuclear arsinal, and worshiping a giant bell”
@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290
@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 3 роки тому
Damn Skaven!
@raalzuune871
@raalzuune871 2 роки тому
Yes yes worship great horned one!
@benrytheman1314
@benrytheman1314 2 роки тому
[insert Warhammer joke]
@tonyrod4388
@tonyrod4388 2 роки тому
the word is "ARSENAL"
@jont2576
@jont2576 2 роки тому
didnt know u watch the original planet of the apes movies.....men turned into a race of condom headed humanoids worshipping a giant nuclear missile in the shape of a golden dildo ten stories high like a church altar.
@flayym1889
@flayym1889 3 роки тому
When I clicked on “Rat Utopia” I was not expecting hyperactive hypersexual pan sexual super rats
@ChloroformHM
@ChloroformHM 3 роки тому
It’s my only goal in life to be a hyperactive, hypersexual, pansexual, aggressive super rat.
@brycegladwin8087
@brycegladwin8087 3 роки тому
So what phase are humans in now I wonder?!
@user-dxvzkh
@user-dxvzkh 3 роки тому
@@brycegladwin8087 Probably phase D
@brycegladwin8087
@brycegladwin8087 3 роки тому
@@user-dxvzkh okay, I’d better get back to my grooming routine.
@fishboi6051
@fishboi6051 3 роки тому
🍳💖💛💙🍳pan rights
@kennyragin
@kennyragin 5 місяців тому
Why am I just finding this channel? Instant subscribe! And I rarely do that.
@chrissayeranderson5710
@chrissayeranderson5710 Рік тому
There was an English tv presenter named Roland rat who lived beneath King's Cross railway station in The Ratcave and also in Ratcavetwo under the Hollywood Sign in Los Angeles. Which I saw in a documentary also a kid.
@munnypantz
@munnypantz 6 років тому
Yes, another episode of "wow, that was fascinating! I wish I could unlearn that!".
@DravenWolfe
@DravenWolfe 6 років тому
munnypantz lol, as someone who enjoys the Post Apocalyptic setting. I was both fascinated and disturbed by it.
@mattiasljungblad4827
@mattiasljungblad4827 6 років тому
You just summed up this entire series.
@LegitAverageZombie1
@LegitAverageZombie1 6 років тому
how could you want to unlearn chris chan
@SiiriCressey
@SiiriCressey 6 років тому
Ignorance is bliss?
@firepro6743
@firepro6743 6 років тому
Give this man a beer
@KJ-nw8ge
@KJ-nw8ge 4 роки тому
What was left out tho: he did one more experiment with the mice. Where he made puzzles to release food. Those mice who completed the tasks were deemed more dominant and the social structure would change occasionally. Thus meaning, if there is a challenge and you stake it on, society will continue .
@maziedelsordo2114
@maziedelsordo2114 4 роки тому
Give them a job and entertainment and they will not revolt.
@yyg4632
@yyg4632 4 роки тому
it would be nice to see that in the video
@ThatGorl8
@ThatGorl8 4 роки тому
No it just means he learned proper mice husbandry smh.
@harryrobson3181
@harryrobson3181 3 роки тому
Chad rats
@mateussilva635
@mateussilva635 3 роки тому
@@maziedelsordo2114 The mice don't revolt, their social order (how bad it may be be) collapses.
@moviesignsol
@moviesignsol Рік тому
12:05 At their conclusion he would take the four healthiest males and females and allow them to breed but their behavior had been so inexorably altered that none of their pups survived beyond weaning.
@Liberty_or_Ded
@Liberty_or_Ded Рік тому
>looks around at modern cities >looks especially at cities in California hm... ...well he turned out to be rather prophetic, huh?
@whiskeyjackedup
@whiskeyjackedup Рік тому
The introduction to that last article is insane. Just listing all your extreme biases so plainly, no way the scientific community would take an intro like that seriously today.
@enderman6777
@enderman6777 3 роки тому
Before y'all discredit his findings by explaining away the mice's behaviors as simply due to boredom... That's exactly what he tried to draw a parallel with in humans
@josephine1468
@josephine1468 3 роки тому
japan
@spets234
@spets234 3 роки тому
@@josephine1468 Indeed
@jackr2287
@jackr2287 3 роки тому
Bill Whittle has a video entitled "The Utopian Curse" breaking down this experiment, and offers a take on this experiment that seems pretty accurate to what took place. Worth your time if this still has your interest folks.
@arnigeir1597
@arnigeir1597 3 роки тому
The issue is more that the conclusions that were made were to support population control and eugenics, and this experiment has been used by certain groups to justify sinister ideology's. The findings were closer to representing prisons then society as a whole and the subjects were still just animals.
@kekula69
@kekula69 3 роки тому
japan
@Laetu
@Laetu 4 роки тому
I’m surprised that Prisons weren’t radically reformed after this.
@kikifromholland6469
@kikifromholland6469 4 роки тому
People don't care about prisoners...
@Laetu
@Laetu 4 роки тому
Kiki FromHolland I know... it’s sad.
@hueman4719
@hueman4719 4 роки тому
Most of the time if your in prison you deserve to be there so. Dont wanna do the time, dont do the crime 🤷‍♂️
@kikifromholland6469
@kikifromholland6469 4 роки тому
@@hueman4719 that's easy for you to say. Maybe think about what you say. People are getting put behind bars when they are not guilty all the time. People who spend more than 5 years in terrible circumstances without doing one damn thing. So please, have some respect
@hueman4719
@hueman4719 4 роки тому
@@kikifromholland6469 how about you have some respect for the words I said and use your brain? What part of MOST OF THE TIME, did you not comprehend? I didn't say let them all rot you peon. Respect? this is the internet lady. Have some respect for yourself and realize there is none of that here.
@adamhauskins6407
@adamhauskins6407 Рік тому
It seems that the stimulation of struggle is needed for success. Transcontinental transportation, expansion of borders, insane infanstructure projects, victorious wars, are deeply needed. Or at least fighting off predators from livestock or crops or even chasing the next catch of fish
@beetlebailey7037
@beetlebailey7037 Рік тому
This is completely unrelated but when you showed that clip from the secret of Nimh it made me realize that that was the movie I had been trying to find for a while now cause the scene where the house sinks into the mud traumatized me as a kid
@kellharris2491
@kellharris2491 14 днів тому
That movie scared the crap about me.
@kathrinapayton2911
@kathrinapayton2911 4 роки тому
i think the bareness of the cages might have had something to do with it, at least a little bit. there is no stimulation for the mice and rats outside of interacting with eachother. no toys or things to climb. that might also explain why prisons reflected the rat utopia the most, because they dont have anything like a career or learning to focus on
@alabastardmasterson
@alabastardmasterson 4 роки тому
Your thoughts are infantile and without merit. Nature has little use for "toys"
@kathrinapayton2911
@kathrinapayton2911 4 роки тому
@@alabastardmasterson :D
@bloodstoneore4630
@bloodstoneore4630 4 роки тому
@@alabastardmasterson toys, predators, unevenly designed environment, or any other stimulation would work
@vudi2103
@vudi2103 4 роки тому
@@alabastardmasterson ok boomer
@liamkerr7183
@liamkerr7183 4 роки тому
@@vudi2103 it was an unevenly designed environment and nothing would "work". Rat City as an exception, all of the experiments were made to prove the theory of behavioral sink. Rat City was the only one where he had utopia as the goal and his mistake was forcing the rats to live with unwanted members of their society. They would have played with eachother and entertained eachother. That's not the problem. Even I used to think it was until this video explained to me that they were forced to live with the social outcasts.
@bigfinstudios181
@bigfinstudios181 4 роки тому
that mouse city scene in zootopia got a lot more disturbing...
@GayBrain
@GayBrain 4 роки тому
Oh god...
@oziku1816
@oziku1816 4 роки тому
Huh maybe that was a reference to this?
@bigfinstudios181
@bigfinstudios181 4 роки тому
oziku that would be cool.
@suzaku3573
@suzaku3573 4 роки тому
Mickey Holmes LMFAOOOOO
@GayBrain
@GayBrain 4 роки тому
@@stefaningleston5735 Hello
@Degenevesting
@Degenevesting Рік тому
Literally what’s going on right now in our society 🥳 thanks hedonism
@jessicamontville3433
@jessicamontville3433 Рік тому
This was really well done. That scientist was interesting also
@tanthai3653
@tanthai3653 4 роки тому
I’ve fallen so far down the UKposts rabbit hole that I ended up on a UKposts series called “Down the Rabbit Hole”
@listerinestrips1156
@listerinestrips1156 4 роки тому
haven't we all lol
@listerinestrips1156
@listerinestrips1156 4 роки тому
one can only sit and wonder just how deep we are embedded in cyber space..at this point in time we're all half robotic...
@peternorth1721
@peternorth1721 4 роки тому
No you didnt lol. You saw this posted somewhere else and came to it.
@jimmybean420
@jimmybean420 4 роки тому
This is not far down the rabbit hole. This isn't far down the rabbit hole at all. You haven't even touched the surface yet. There's so much shit out there, and this really aint it. (it is weird but not rabbit hole weird)
@timboardman4916
@timboardman4916 4 роки тому
@@listerinestrips1156 nah this is where I start. These videos are great
@aaronmoreton
@aaronmoreton 4 роки тому
He obviously didn't address every need of the mice. They had no entertainment. When you don't need to spend time and energy on finding food/water and avoiding predators then you have a lot of leisure time. That needs to be filled with something especially in such a high energy creature.
@pockiiee2
@pockiiee2 4 роки тому
aaronmoreton yes i agree - through the lens of today and years of research on animal intelligence, seems obvious that he ignored emotional and intellectual wellbeing - the rats were essentially bored to death.
@anmolpatel793
@anmolpatel793 4 роки тому
But I think rats don't have the intellectual and imaginative capabilities of a human , they only need food sex and water and basic things required for survival rats don't ask why or how or attempt to manipulate their environment on a human level their main focus on life is survival they have no concept of entertainment and probably their brains are not built to feel it
@TheRibbonRed
@TheRibbonRed 4 роки тому
@@anmolpatel793 rats that were previously straight became gay (or as Calhoun would like to say, "pansexual") though. I don't think they completely lack the need for entertainment/engaging activities, even if those needs are in a far less culturally-developed form in comparison to humans' need for entertainment. Also, just as it is a biological need, the process of sex and the hunt for food are entertainment to the brain in themselves. Having those needs easily attainable without doing much work leaves something to be desired in the brain, often cultivating to overeating and hypersexuality as seen in the end results of the experiment (and in small part of humanity ourselves).
@SC-ce3vp
@SC-ce3vp 4 роки тому
@@anmolpatel793 do you know what a treadmill is?
@DENAY1968
@DENAY1968 4 роки тому
@@anmolpatel793 why do they love to run on wheels and toys are available for them in pet shops? Believe it or not, I sprayed wd-40 on a windmill decor in my yard because it was squealing and a wasp's nest was in the location I sprayed, after at least 10mins I walked thru my yard no where near the windmill but a wasp landed on my upper arm stung me a flew away????? So, it recognized me from spraying the nest, ruining the home, and possibly killing its offspring after time passed??? Critters are smarter than we give them credit for.
@LorchVHS
@LorchVHS Рік тому
Such a poignantly strong close to your video. Thank you.
@matthewharris-levesque5809
@matthewharris-levesque5809 5 років тому
The conclusion should have been "the inability to escape abuse leads to degradation of the body, mind and spirit"
@t16205
@t16205 5 років тому
I think you may be on to something there
@Nyah420
@Nyah420 5 років тому
To the time machine!
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 5 років тому
"Once ... Upon a time ... There was a little girl ... And her shadow who was tethered to her ... The girl lived up above ... And the shadow lived down below ..."
@TheGreenTaco999
@TheGreenTaco999 5 років тому
Except that what's really interesting about this experiment is what caused the abuse in the first place, we all know that abuse is bad
@LoryskaEntertainment
@LoryskaEntertainment 5 років тому
TheGreenTaco999 I think OP is suggesting that despite the supposed care given to the rats, they still lived in a designed squaller. They had no toys, running wheels or other means of entertainment. Most mammals need this sort of stimulation before madness sets in, and shit like this experiment happens. In my opinion that is a huge source of error in this experiment.
@Max16032
@Max16032 6 років тому
I really like how the music turns more and more frightening the deeper the theme goes.
@peteaxe2067
@peteaxe2067 6 років тому
Jack Alchem chill lmao
@lizatanzawa7910
@lizatanzawa7910 6 років тому
Jack Alchem (look how jumpy this creepy video made YOU!!! Omg, I can feel my heart beating faster, this is horrible experiment!!)
@KingRumar
@KingRumar 6 років тому
The mice and rats, oh my!
@olivialee5280
@olivialee5280 6 років тому
Does anyone know what the music is at 1:03?
@ScienceBabbleMusic
@ScienceBabbleMusic 5 років тому
Grab a bass guitar and ringout the 5th fret on the G string every 2 measures if you REALLY wanna freak yourself out
@GreenfieldPortfolioResearch
@GreenfieldPortfolioResearch Рік тому
marvelous summary. thank you very much.
@mralexsambo
@mralexsambo Рік тому
Interesting experiment. Although humans would have many factors that has to be added, we can use this data for a base level of analysis.
@aristocraticrebel
@aristocraticrebel 7 місяців тому
It's literally what's happening to us.
@wm-fm1ts
@wm-fm1ts 4 роки тому
What he unintentionally created was a study on "cabin fever," not the effects of overpopulation. Stick a any number of people inside a building they cannot leave, with nothing to do except eat, sleep, and be social, and their behavior would fall apart just like the rodents in his study. Real life is full of things to do - mice explore, forage for food, escape predators, *live.* Enrichment is extremely important in both animal welfare and to human lives. After all, without falling down the UKposts rabbit hole and finding this video, I would've gone as stir crazy trapped in quarantine as the rats and mice trapped in their "utopias" :P
@FlaviusMaximus1967
@FlaviusMaximus1967 4 роки тому
From what I understand his later studies addressed those concerns. And they yielded positive results.
@zagreus4438
@zagreus4438 4 роки тому
Go for a walk bro
@FlaviusMaximus1967
@FlaviusMaximus1967 4 роки тому
@@zagreus4438 I don't think it was so much getting out, it was more the ability to be creative. I'm finding it hard to find those results though. But yea, going for a walk and getting out would definitely be beneficial.
@goatcvlt2926
@goatcvlt2926 4 роки тому
Yea but we are animals meant to run hunt breed etc too. People are dying right now because of too many people. Notice all the uprising in mass shootings? Population
@akshay_creates
@akshay_creates 4 роки тому
I'm just throwing it out there, but wouldn't/couldn't mass overpopulation lead the ENTIRE WORLD to a state of cabin fever in a way? But at the same time I feel like we'll explore and inhabit different planets by the time the population reaches such an unfathomable level.
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