They did a CT Scan on the Bust in 2006 and found that it's in fact genuine. This attempt to discredit the Bust smells a bit much like sour grapes to me. Unless it's proven fake I have no reason to doubt it's authenticity. This documentary is in bad faith and pre youtube version of clickbait.

It is a crime against history and an insult to the ancient Egyptians, Nefertiti was a black African woman not a white woman.

Nefertiti she was the greatest queen but since her death here enemy they wanted to wipe here from history just because she wasn’t Egyptian she was from Hittite empire and she could change the religion from worshiping leaders and priest to worship the sun in the sky and even here civilization to be wiped out the Hittite and the Kurds who they use to be Hittite was not given a country and the countries who they dominate the Kurdish land paying just to wipe any history related to the Kurds including Nefertiti and here originality

@@Alanz2023 Quite some gibberish.

​@@Alanz2023она Нефертити была одна из самых красивых женщин Древнего Египта, не была она из Хеттской империи царица Нефертити, она могла быть не египтянкой, а внеземной инопланетянкой Нефертити.

It was found in a sculptor's workshop. Her husband was the one hated by royal egyptians for turning things upside down. Her bust was possibly spared by those tasked with defacing their likenesses.

@@2degucitas That doesn't explain why a painted bust, left lying in the elements, retained perfect paint for thousands of years. I'm not convinced it's real, especially considering the state of the rest of the dig-site.

@@anniedarkhorse6791 in fact....does NOT really maters....'couse THE PEOPLE REALLY LIKE TO SAVURATE VERY GOOD STORIES . .. about kings and queens. . .....about ancient times.....about love.....and people in power.....and hate and revenge.....about exotic lands ....and so......☝️😃

It looks insanely modern; lifelike, whereas most other art from the period was stylized.

@@anniedarkhorse6791 This theory has been up for debate a few times. There are surprisingly well preserved items found in the dry sand, like some naturally mummified humans and animals. Some of them have been found in better condition than the ceremoniously mummified counterparts. The artifacts in Tutankhamun`s toomb was in good condition. Art historians have always pointed out that among the more stylised portraits and statues there are some that are much more naturalistic, all made in the same period, even of the same person. Hard to make any final conclusion either way.

That's because the priesthood believed letting Amarna degrade into the desert will ERASE his memory, but archaelogy proved quite the opposite. It was unintended consequences

@@kanadashyuugo873 They did a fairish job, admittedly, but lost after the stabilisation of the timeline gave stronger context to the Moses legend.

@@JelMain Akhenaten was UTTERLY DESTROYED after TutankhAmun

@@kanadashyuugo873 So how come Tut changed his name from the original Tuthankhaten? Aten was his monotheistic pharaoh's Sun God, and once the Priesthood destroyed his memory, everyone with an-aten name changed it to the traditional -amun.

@@JelMain He died at... 15-16? It was very likely NOT his choice but his handler's. Lucky he died charioting in the desert, for Kemet at least.

The San Jose Rosicrucian center really is a incredible museum!

Yep,

This would never have been sculpted for Meritaten. And it looks nothing like her. If you look at Tutankhamun's funerary mask, you will see there is a resemblance to Nefertiti. That's because it is almost certainly her mask repurposed.

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@@jamesforbes2205 I agree!

It's possible Museum directors rather don't want such a famous statue being debunked .Maybe they have doubts and know It would be a huge blow to the image of the museum, certain careers, etc . They can refuse acces to people who want to do any testing just to be on the safe side . But implying German secular 'authorities ' are involved in some conspiracy , and send 'men in black ' around to discourage independent historians is very far fetched .

Logical conclusion

Its just an Egypt documentary masquerading as a mystery to grab your attention.

The bust is made from plaster, and the only plaster busts found in Egypt were made during the Roman era. Do you think a plaster bust would look like the Nefertiti bust after 3300 years?

@@tarharqataseti9261 Limestone with plaster to finish and touch up certain areas, dig deeper

eatiegourmet1015... Well then go and check the label snd let us all know what it says....

@@MadMomma-kj9ks Ok... Next time I'm there -- it's 2 hours away!

Actually thats a remarkable story. The bust must have had a lot of exposure so a souvenier copy would be in demand..@@eatiegourmet1015

And?

and what?@@MarllonFerrari

Good theory

But they'd have to destroy it to get at that evidence.

The eye is not sealed by plaster. It consists of a shell made of rock crystal with a pupil made of colored beeswax. It has already been removed to examine the material. That's why parts of the pupil are missing today.

@@zehnthaus really you think they would vandalize it like that and then leave it that way without replacing the pupil? I doubt it

@@a.alberts2224 Look at detail photos from 1912 and from today, to see, if the right eye's pupil has been intact, and if it is today.

Yup. Naive folks make this assumption that because it's so important to us now, that it must have been so important to people back then. I don't think people understand just how much sculptures toss aside or trash. Or how many copies of one painting some artists will make just to get it perfect. LOL. If they saw Raphael or Michaelangelo's studio they'd be shocked by how much they must have ruined or never used in public. Things that would be worth millions now, were not even seen fit to see the light of day. Heck, they even occasionally ruined incredible blocks of marble in their attempts. Which was and is no joke financially. But plaster is just like, completely disposable.

I agree with your completely.

When I studied Art history we learned of the sprezzatura. The art of hiding working drawings and sketches so that the finished piece appears completed as if no hard work had been necessary.

@@helenamcginty4920 Si, assolutamente bella. Sprezzatura is a way of life. Not just a part time practice. Or as the French might say, l'art de nonchalance.

So, a documentary about a bust, stolen by the Germans, that should belong to Egypt

ofcourse it matters. it tells the story of history and culture.

@@BubbleMix-96 The story of the toxic full of hot air YT nitwits feel an irresistible compulsion to speak out of turn, too

To me it real I used it to get the colours right in the large tapestry I made.she hangs on my wall with her name so everyone who see it knows who she is

Ramses II was notorious for carving his name into everything. And this is how much of what's dated in Egypt exists, by simply attributing the name that is sometimes just scratched into the object.

@@HorizonsleatherBlogspot2012 True, friend, yet the artifacts on display WERE 1000's of years old.

There reproductions unless there in Egypt

@@chriskarsseboom2200 The display at our museum was one stop on a worldwide tour of Ramses II-period artifacts from the Cairo museum. BTW, there are many authentic ancient Egyptian artifacts, such as this Nefertiti bust & mummies, in museums & private collections all around the world.

Most artifacts were made to go straight into the tombs, weren’t they? So the fact they seam ‘brand new’ makes complete sense.

You make very plausible theories..the idea the they have not tested the paint , clay etc for these things is highly suspicious to me.

Nonsense, plaster is brittle and breaks easily.

@@fryertuck6496 yup, that's why so many statues are missing noses. They are usually the first parts to crack off. The issue is not helped in Egypt as Muslims later went around defacing a lot of art out of superstition.

He was IGIGI, his father is Marduk.

@@fryertuck6496 I'm not here to teach art lessons, but plaster made from gypsum does not break easily. Please look it up for further information.

Zahi Hawass was himself caught stealing and that is why he was replaced and his position was given to another academic. This is what I have heard. I know something went wrong and he was caught.

Because he's still one of the most legitimate and highly respected Egyptologists out there. And what did he steal exactly? As far as I can tell, he was always serving the best interest of the artifacts. Ensuring they are in the safest place possible. Artifacts don't belong to any single country. There was no Egypt when these were created. The only reason we have 90% of these artifacts is because people like Hawass and Museums protected these items. Just in the last 15 years, tens of thousands of artifacts have been destroyed throughout Iraq and Syria, and in the 20th century Egypt wasn't much better. And he was given his job BACK. That's how respected he is and that's how much they actually cared about this so called "theft".

@@robertagardner5461 Oh then why did they give him his job BACK? Because he was always working in the best interest of the artifacts and science, to protect them and ensure they were in the safest place possible. He was ACCUSED. And no one actually cared because Egypt was going through some things and he made the right call.

Those charges never stuck and to this day he is considered innocent of any wrongdoing by the Egyptian government, who have the right to have the final word in such matters, as opposed to foreign authorities, European experts and you, who obviously hasn't studied the case but has taken the word of non-Egyptians with a vested interest in the accusations made against Hawass. At the end of the day, even, let's say, if Hawass WAS guilty of stealing Egyptian antiquities, well, hell, at least he's FROM there. You do realize that practically the entirety of Europe raped and pillaged Egypt for artifacts and shamelessly shipped them back to their countries, where most of them remain to this day, for most of the 18th and 19th centuries, right? For at least 200 years Britain, Germany, France and Italy, along with other, smaller European countries excavated without any serious opposition and even used dynamite to uncover hard to access sites and reveal the treasures below, Work-crews reduced many architectural features to rubble while looking for art-treasures, gold and jewelry and some of the most perfectly preserved and impressive pieces were shipped back to Europe without as much as a thank-you. The Egyptian authorities have recently begun legal proceedings to recover many of these pieces from European museums but by the amount of push-back they're getting you'd think the stuff never belonged to them and that brings me to Hawass. Hawass, a successful and respected archaeologist and Egyptologist was hired by the Egyptian government to combat that very legacy of European theft of the material culture of Egypt, he was given free reign to regulate and supervise the sites all over Egypt and to negotiate terms for continued excavations and he was and is doing exactly the job for which he was hired and therein lay the problem: European (and now, American) researchers grew impatient with Hawass and in a great show of hubris and entitlement complained to the government in Cairo that Hawass was standing as a roadblock to their continued excavations and they wanted more of a say in the process and, much to their credit, the governmental officials said NO, Hawass is doing precisely the job he'd been chosen for and they had no reason to change anything...soon after that the accusations began to surface claiming that Hawass was a thief...I wonder why? Foreign researchers should be grateful that the Egyptians allow them any access at all to sites in Egypt, given their history of theft and destruction and colonial-advantage, their activities have been destructive and Egypt itself has been treated with contempt by these European powers so before you go repeating the accusations of a bunch of self-interested white people you should do some research into what was really going on, that is, if you don't want to look and sound like a parrot.

He is an idiot. He has been fired from his position.

While DNA analysis appears to show that the remains (Akhenaten?) in KV55 and the Younger Lady (Nefertiti? Kiya?) are siblings and that Tutankhamun is their son, the possible consanguinity I note earlier could mimic a sibling relationship. There is no record of any sort to suggest that Nefertiti was the daughter of Amenhotep III and Tiy, but there is attestation that Ay's wife (and later queen) Tey was Nefertiti's wet nurse. I suggest that Nefertiti's mother may have been an earlier wife of Ay.

And there we go. I was wondering how far down I would have to scroll before some one would point out that the binder for the paint or the eye glue could not have been faked and that is carbon datable. Now we have an answer. This bust just got perfectly lucky and was buried quickly and didn't suffer a nasty fall before it was covered. Makes you wonder how many masterpieces are still out there in the sands or lost to time in Egypt with this bust and the amazing works found in the tomb of Tutankhamun being as remarkable as they are.

@@KnightsWithoutATable Either way, time for the Germans to return it to Egypt. They took it out illegally. If people want to see it, they can see it in Egypt and thus benefit that society. They need to money to preserve other relics. The Germans have a way of not returning looted and stolen property, even looking here at stuff they took in WW2.

Indeed radio carbon dating! Borchardt essebtually STOLE the item as well! (it went through a "journey" sometimes in Secret and it's amazing it survived at all!) WWII (Hitler raided and looted these museums) and she was moved to a "bunker in Berlin"!!! Found by the American Army (given to the Monuments, Fine Arts and Archives branch) (many other travels until her final resting place) (I was in NYC when many Egyptian artifacts were on display ie loan) Stunning!

It proves the authenticity of the eye not the bust. Those eyes are not common but are often found and any good forger will add in real bits. The selective damage proves it a fake the damage to the crown would have to have knocked the nose off as well but the nose is pristine.

​@@KnightsWithoutATableno it means the eye is genuine not the bust.

Is it a coincidence that her bust resembles a toilet? Asking for a friend...

She was Irish....like a few other pharaohs....she asked to be buried in her homeland and her tomb ..along 4 other....some believe the continent of Atlantis sstretched Up from the Americas almost to Ireland...and when the teutonic plates started shifting the dark skinned Atlantians sailed into Egypt to settle there......this would explain why these pharaohs are buried in Ireland........pyramids in the Americas are found from Halifax...Nova Scotia all the way down through Wisconsin into south America...and evidence shows that the pyramids in the Americas are much older than those in Egypt.... . Underwater evidence shows this could be true.....

Very right!

That's what I was thinking also they would have smashed his but she fell naturally over time and it was most likely stronger many years ago when it fell 😊

rubbish. plaster drys and decays over time. pigments fade and fall off. your theory doesnt hold water. looks fake. there is nothing in comparison to it. nothing. looks 100 years old. not 3000

Why and how would a forger would make a bust and hide it in forgotten ruins Amarna, city long lost because Akhenaten was cursed for trying to change Egyptian religion?

@@KasumiRINA no one saw it unearthed. it was “brought out” on site as a found object for a high profile politician. it was likely a masterpiece made by a forger imo. tons of insanely talented forgers. best way to make money as an artist. when was the last time you personally bought an original work of sculpture art? art is rarely considered valuable until after the artist dies, but thats too late to make a living for your family. this theory is extremely plausible. he was also known to visit a talented forger. what archeologist visits forgers?

I wonder if they found the PLAIN bust and then had someone paint it with the pigments found in the area to make it so profound? It took a great find to one that rises above all else.

Most forgers are

This Nefertiti is a German manufacture. If you look at the children of Nefertiti for example: they have elongated skulls. Populations with elongated heads still live today in Central and East Africa. This tradition of lengthening the skulls of children during their childhood does not exist either in the Middle East or in Europe. Queen Nefertiti, like her entire family, was a black woman. Shame on the people who made this!

Османы турки, арабы, и персы, никакого отношения к древним египтянам не имеют. Персы, османы турки, арабы, завоёвывали Египет, и потом завоеватели персы, турки, арабы смешались с коренными египтянами.

​@@user-jp5xl1ui7xso the current inhabitants of Egypt have looted the entire country

But how else can archeologists know about history, distort it, lie and hide it, and then tell the people their political 'historical' version they were paid to create to push their evolution belief and racist plots?

@@sunnydays8270 You're a fool if you think "archaeologists" are doing any of that, or that it even works like that. Do you know anything about the scientific process or peer review? What you are suggesting is not plausible. What you are suggesting is a paranoid delusional conspiracy theory. Get help. And learn something about how actual archaeology, and academia in general, work. Peer review generally speaking, doesn't allow for ANY of what you are suggesting.

That's outright preposterous. You have no idea about the genetics of ancient or modern Egyptians, who are essentially the same population, with slight differences. You are clueless to the FACT that modern Egyptians are the direct descendants of ancient Egyptians. You've never studied genetics, archaeology or actual history in your life and probably didn't pass highschool biology. Ancient Egyptians only had 12% genetic affinity with populations of sub-Saharan Africa. Today they have 20% affinity with populations of sub-Saharan Africa. Really after the Roman period. Islam brought MORE sub-Saharan ancestry into Egypt than there ever was. Not less. So please, stop opening your gob and flatulating all over the place. Hawass like other Egyptians, is a direct descendant of ancient Egyptians, as is the entire Egyptian population. Stop trying to discuss topics that you are ignorant about. Just because YOU want to push some paranoid, delusional political rhtoeric, and because YOU don't have any identity of your own. Modern Egyptians are directly descended from ancient Egyptians, and are genetically closer to ancient Egyptians than some ADOS American or modern Nigerian or modern Tanzanian or modern person from the DRC. It's not even close. Modern Egyptians are still very much Egyptian. You just can't accept the fact that most Egyptians have NEVER EVER looked like you want them to. Ever. Not 6,000 years ago, and not today. You can't stand the fact that ancient Egyptians, were an Afro-Eurasian population. And that North Africans have been Afro-Eurasian for at minimum 12,000 years. LONG before the 1st Egyptian dynasty. And you don't have the education to discern the reality of the situation. Again, more paranoid conspiracy theory, narcissism, envy and jealousy out of a community with one of the worst education records on the face of the planet, despite being in one of the world's wealthiest nations. There are people living in tin shacks in the middle of the woods with better education than the community you come from. Modern Egyptians are more Egyptian than you or your ancestors will ever be. They re Kmt. And their ancestors did not look like you think they did lol.

j'ai bien rigolé quand j'ai vu la taille du morceau de plâtre prélevé pour faire les analyses des pigments 😂 il on t pris quasiment une brique !!! c'est censé être un chef d'ouvre et eux on tapé dedans comme dans un jambon !🤣🤣🤣 bref c'est un fake.....

He got hired back.

He’s Worst thing to happen to antiquities since Elgin

​@@cruisepaigewhy say that

Because he acted like a dictator ask Joanne Fletcher.

@@shable1436because he has a perspective of history that he pushes, and by doing so prevents any research that might negate that. I'm sure he hasn't set out to do this specifically, but his actions have only reinforced his historical belief. Now, those beliefs might be correct but they also might not be. He is a controversial figure. Not saying he is a bad person, only that he is controversial in Egyptology circles. Also, he loves the camera which rubs some people the wrong way, also not a crime.

The Germans should have created one based on their history if they were serious enough

Radiocarbon dating can be done. And many sculptures were altered (even I doing sculpture in MODERN times do so.) Sculpture. And they would enhance her "looks" to what the "Priest" at the time deemed "appropriate". This bust underwent CT scans in 1992 and was prover authentic. (which also showed layers underneath - limestone core, stucco outerlayer so on. Then another scan in 2006. More details shows up. These UKposts videos are not the REAMS of archilogical records found in various museums. Who knows. Borchardt first broke the "rules" of "division of architectural finds" at the time under Egyptt in 1913. Under Hitler many ancient finds were raided ie stolen. The scholars so on at the time dictated all AND these crypts were of the correct humidity, dryness so on. I lived in NYC and have seen amazing artifacts from ancient times. Preservation is amazing - some not so.

Go to 15:16 look at those stone walls reduced to dust... Now how tell does a plaster bust survive almost like new missing an ear.....not even needing a paint job? Something is very suspicious dont you think? Or do you?

Even this dokumentary is just dumbbecause they say this= 1. The composition of paste to sculpture it, is 1:1 the same as it was common in that region and in that specific Time period. And The people digging it out would have never been able to recreate the Paste composition, as they didn't have had any analytical tools like in the recent modern era to know what it's made of. So they conclude that there was still 3000 year old paste laying somewhere around, which they then used to fake the sculpture??? - My question how was that paste still in such an perfect form, that they wrere able to reactivate it with watter, without any debree and sand in the paste? If they had facked it, the paste woud not have been smooth, but full of imperfections and very brittle, and how where they able to cure it so fast that visiters woud not notice that its a fresh paste? 2. The colors used, and their composition is 1:1 the same as it was common in that region and in that specific Time period. And The people digging it out would have never been able to recreate the color composition, as at that time period they had no such tools to test them and fake it. So they conclude that there was still 3000 year old Colors laying somewhere around in that workshop area, which they then used to fake the color of the sculpture??? - my question how was that color still in such a perfect form, that they were able to reactivate it with water, without any sand ever mixing into it, which would have ruined the color when putting it on a surface? The sand would be embedded in the color surface, and it would be very noticeable… Also, it's not like the 40s anymore where people were able to fake age paintings, because now we can analyze everything, like they did with this statues color... This is also the reason since the late 80’s there are rarely attempts to make fakes as nearly all are found out...

Paint by numbers......@@m_lies

I saw it in Cologne beginning of the 1980s and Neferiti (Nofretete) in Berlin. Travelling to Egypt some 20 yrs later was fulfilling a wish I had held since buying archaeological calendars and dragging to whole family to said exhibition. Having to sketch Egyptian sculptures in art class added to the passion and made seeing some of them like meeting an old acquaintance.

I saw it in Hamburg, Germany, in a large, darkened room, and I had to leave it sooner than intended, I felt a little sick among these artefacts. There seemed to be magic involved or the air condition worked less than magic.

I saw the mask in San Francisco in 1979. I got to stand right in front of it for a good twenty seconds. It was mindblowing.

I once read that the eye is missing as in all wall paintings the head is in profile so no need for it.

I read also that to find another authentic eye was impossible...🤔🤔

……i wonder if you think the same if you paid 16 million for a painting tht is beautiful but a fake….

The fact that the beauty stuns so many people is sufficient proof to me that such an artist wasn't alive in the last two hundred years. The sculpture is too exceptional; were it the work of contemporaneous sculptor, he would have made many more similar breathtaking objects and became famous in our time. If it fell later, it could have landed on the sand which could've save the face.

"Nefertiti" significa "A Bela chegou"

Nefertiti is beauty in perfection, no matter if she is 3000 or 100 years old. A masterpiece anyway.

Made in 1912 and sold to German finder whom used it as example of what the site he worked on could be. He did not wish to say it was real until he could say nothing else but it was real

the amun priest were out to destroy anything related to ank. nef and tut couz of their allegence to aton the new god.

Nefertiti was Anunnaki/human...Thus the elongated skull.

There is also a second bust (of the same proportions) of an older woman with Nef's features. It could be her after Akhenaten's departure. BTW have you come across Oedipus and Akhenaten by Velikovsky? He put this idea forward?

Yes not for long. 8 years?

I grew up with a bust of Nefertiti on the family book shelves. It was plaster with a dark bronze finish. Mom was a history buff, Ancient Egypt and the Third Reich. I was thrilled when the Tutankhamun treasures were exhibited in Chicago. They are breathtaking viewed in person.

Just how big WAS her bust?

Well if the sculpter faked it then it is still accurate to the 2-D depictions of the queen excavated well after the bust was found ...

I am so glad you never questioned the authenticity of Nefertiti's bust. I can't imagine what a huge problem it would be if you decided to question it.

@@anacletwilliams8315 I wish you peace and contentment. May it not be always--elusive!😊

@@BeveC21E Thank you! I wish you peace and prosperity.

The architecture of hitchibsut temple is hard edged modern The umda ( because he looks like the chief of the village ) small statue is in perfect condition ( in the Louvre )

True. Akhenaton's memory was erased.

Posted the Liar ho failed to cite any credible sources

what you write doesn´t make sense. The bust wasn´t found in Paris neither at a workshop.

So? Get Over It @@-_YouMayFind_-

​@@-_YouMayFind_-plaster of paris is the material used and means Gips in German and the head was supposedly found in the ruins of an antic workshop

It is a fantastic work of art, but it definitely does not come close t the more crudely done and very damaged other busts found right along with it, it makes no sense how a bust of her husband the king looked like an amateur student made it, and it was all broken, and the other stuff was rough, damaged, and noses smashed etc but the fact that this one had all it's pigments, fragile nose and thin neck all intact, supposedly laying there 50 cm under gravel for over 3,000 years to me is highly suspicious. I'm also a sculptor and have made models based on photos, I know the processes, so sculpture is not foreign to me, I also know how fragile and soft limestone is- it's composed of many sedementary layers of tiny dead foraminifera which had shells they left behind that became "cemented" into the limestone rock at the bottom of the water, you can see the tiny shells under a magnifying glass. Amateur and student bust sculptors tend to overlook a couple or three important areas on the human face and the face winds up looking rather "flat" with a projecting nose- the areas are the little cavity directly under the nose connecting to the upper lip in the center, the two creases that run from both sides of the nose at an angle towards the corners of the mouth, and the little indentations in the corners of the mouth, the Nefertiti bust is way different than the others, I don't buy the idea it was found where claimed, or that it's 100% genuine and laying there for 3,000 years.

Yes, even if it is a forgery, it is still a masterpiece in its own right that it held so many people spellbound.

It's obviously original, it was just discovered in a safer spot in the Artist's Studio than Akhenaten's

some believe the archaeologist's wife was the muse..so she may very well have kissed him.

It does matter. Fraud is Fraud and it's an abuse if Archeology. Yes, it's a beautiful piece of art but that's not the issue, when you are dissecting human history.

Two things - it was protected from winds by being behind a wall that would have taken time to disintegrate. And secondly it was buried for most of its time in the ruins. As the wall crumbled, its sandy remains accumulated on the side protected from wind. The bust being on a shelf and then falling is speculation, but if it did, sufficient sandy material had already built up to give a softish landing. The only time when the sculpture experienced any wind would be the period after the roof (probably thatch made from palm leaves) had fallen in, and the wall had decayed sufficiently for the shelf to fall, and the time for sandy material to bury it completely. I am familiar with so-called ghost towns in both the US and Australia. It is surprising how quickly abandoned towns disintegrate, especially if built of ephemeral materials such as adobe block, but even more substantial materials degrade relatively quickly when there are no people performing maintenance. In this case I would expect the burial process for the bust to be as little as five to ten years, and maybe up to twenty. Even if it took 30 to 50 years, it is certainly not 3,000 years of wind blown sands abrading its surface.

If you spent time in Egypt and saw what miracles of preservation routinely come out of the desert and the still vibrant polychrome on the temples of Edfu and Edsa says otherwise. It was buried. In perfectly dry and walled in sand. Paper and textile survive in that desert. It's not anything that miraculous.

Yes sucker bait.....

@robynw6307...?. .would only be suspicious if the bust had been exposed to all kinds of weather. But then the Brits would have discovered the bust before the Germans what is not the case. It could also be suspicious that the documentary is essentially only based on Stierlin's assessment and according to this documentary he is officially quite alone with his opinion...

I heard that the bust is a fake. It was made for promotional purposes and was misunderstood by the nobles as an exhibition piece. To avoid embarrassment the exhibitors left it at that.

It’s fake!

What do you think of it now? An artist has license to offer us his or her vision...

@@Black_unity597 Yes she was black.

That bust has not strictly realistic human shape, they did proof that. Art non only copy perfect forms, art also invents them

I love it! Thanks to all brothers!

You are fully right! This Nefertiti is a German manufacture. If you look at the children of Nefertiti for example: they have elongated skulls. Populations with elongated heads still live today in Central and East Africa. This tradition of lengthening the skulls of children during their childhood does not exist either in the Middle East or in Europe. Queen Nefertiti, like her entire family, was a black woman. Shame on the people who made this!

now we know there's a guy who works from home that says he could make a copy of anything 😀 it'll probably be pricey though since it'd be a custom job. ohh maybe in the future 3d printing will make all sorts of things possible... wow they sure had much better prizes in the past sounds like, that'd be a cool thing to win! (though maybe not to carry around a park, but maybe if one just took it back to the car and came back to enjoy the park that'd work out fine)

I am so very sorry to hear that your bust was destroyed. I know from experience that it can be so devastating when something with sentimental value is destroyed. But I am puzzled when you say you cannot find a replacement. There are literally millions of copies of the Nefertiti bust available everywhere. In any style you want----white, ivory, black, matt finish or shiny, colored, etc. and in any number of sizes. For almost any price. Of course, it is never possible to really replace a cherished item, but you should be able to find something that suits you.

The museum makes copies for outrageous prices.

It might have been a plaster one that you could finish / paint, how you wanted to. I have one that I painted many years ago.

That was a great story. My cat kept rubbing his face on my big beautiful ceramic tile of a couple standing in front of the Eiffel tower ostensibly kissing. When l came home one day Sunny (my cat) was waiting at the door for me. He meowed loudly and headed to my room. There lay my beautiful broken tile. He meowed again loudly. He never did that. I forgave him and took the time to convince him he meant more than my pic. Even though l loved that tile, I love him more.

Then where is that Camcorder Timecode from? 😂 Didn't they have camcorders in 1910?😅

Actually color photos were used constantly in the late 1940s and were popular from the mid-1950s to the present. Interest and usage of color photos certainly did not become popular "only after the 70s."

@@garylbb 🙄🙄🙄 We are talking 1013 here! “Renowned as America's pre-eminent black-and-white landscape photographer, Ansel Adams began to photograph in color soon after Kodachrome film was invented in the mid 1930s. Was there color photography in the 1940s? Between 1939 and 1944, a group of photographers working for the government's Farm Security Administration (FSA) and then the Office of War Information (OWI) shot about 1,600 color photos. These photos depict life in rural America and the mobilization efforts for World War II. When did color photography replace black-and-white? Beginning in the 1960s, Kodak's Kodachrome, along with other film brands, had begun to establish a presence in the market, but they were still much more expensive than standard black and white film. By the 1970s, prices were able to decrease enough to make color photography accessible to the masses. When did colored photos become common? 1970s Popularization. It wasn't an immediate ubiquitous switch from black and white to color. The everyday home photographer who used their camera primarily for occasions like birthdays and vacations likely didn't switch to color photography until the 1960s to the 1970s.”

I agree. The features are suspiciously European.

Hawas é agente do GOM (governo oculto do mundo) !!!

He's crooked?!

Exactly the amount of artifacts in private collections is probably crazy

Not really. Its materials, stylistic motifs, and coloration are consistent with the more idealized style of the late Amarna period. What makes the sculpture unusual is its exemplary state of preservation.

And the modern day make up style!

@@timhazeltine3256 Ahh, no it's not. LMAO It's not the first time a museum or a "archaeologist has tried to pass off a forgery. Besides, the Egyptians HATED Nefertiti and her husband, they destroyed every likeness they could find and crossed out their names wherever they found it.

Early 1900s fake. And a poor one.

@@therewdy4038 I's the other way around, modern make-up styles came directly from the make-up of the Egyptians and other ancient peoples. this is confirmed by a glance at the depictions of women in other examples of Egyptian art, statuary, cartouches, etc.

Why wasn’t the eye replaced I wonder🤨

My idea is they may have simply not noticed her bust, so focused on eradicating his memory.

The referral to vandalism is about how the digging was done.

Um you mean the people who protect these human artifacts and ensure their safety? Tomb robbing? Really? Do you know where 90% of these artifacts would be right now if it weren't for these "tomb robbers with PHDs"? Lost to time, destroyed, sitting in a junk pile in some real tomb robbers abode etc... Just in the last 15 years, tens of thousands of irreplaceable artifacts have been destroyed in Syria and Iraq. Some significant items were returned to Syria when it was thought stable. And more were uncovered by archaeologists who worked with the Syrian establishment, when they were stable. And then one day, they weren't stable. And literally, tens of thousands of items are now missing or destroyed. And this is common in unstable countries and regions. WHY in the world would anyone leave them to that fate? They don't "belong" to anyone. Egypt the nation, did not exist when these were created. And Egyptian heritage is part of the heritage of ALL "Western" culture, meaning Western Afro-Eurasian culture, everything west of the Himalayas, from India and the Stans to Morocco and Iceland. But especially Mediterranean and related cultures. Do you know why half the ancient murals in Egypt have their faces rubbed off? Not because of aging or time. Because superstitious Muslims, over the last 1300 years went around defacing them, intentionally. There were hundreds of thousands of artifacts destroyed just in the first 200 years of Islamic expansion. And then in the war between Christiany and Islam that would rage for 1000+ years, countless other artifacts were lost if they went against the particular theological and ahistorical narratives that say Crusaders and radical Islam push. These "tomb robbers" have protected these items. And there is absolutely ZERO reason to return them. Especially, when in many cases their safety can not be assured by the nations and institutions demanding them returned. Do you seriously think like DR of Congo or Iran are capable and trustworthy enough to protect all artifacts, with NO bias? That they are stable enough? Egypt wasn't stable for most of the 20th century. Do you know HOW many of these ancient Egyptian artifacts would be losst to us, just since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, if they had remained in Egypt? It's not even debateable. These things belong to all humanity. And they belong whereever they can be kept safe, and made available for the public and researchers to view whenever they want. Anyway, no institution has hoarded a bigger stash than the Vatican. Their basements contain more artifacts than the entire Smithsonian, and probably most European Museums combined. The issue with the Vatican isn't that they have these things, it's that they refuse to disclose and display them. In some cases they have culturally significant items that should be considered being returned IF the country of origin is equipped to protect them. But these museums are absolutely vital in antiquities. And they do the right thing by them. By protecting them, and making them available for all humans, and researchers. The Vatican is doing things the wrong way. These museums are doing things the right way.

@@jessereichbach588Very well said👍🏻It’s a bit wearying reading the usual comments on these kind of videos, usually from the ignorant, demanding that X or Y artefact be returned to its country of origin. Usually it’s the British Museum that gets most of the criticism. But you are absolutely correct that if it weren’t for these antiquities being “looted” or “robbed” and then placed in the care of Western museums, they would most likely not exist at all, or be in a much worse state of preservation. The Elgin Marbles is one such example. Those would’ve ended up in a pile of rubble instead of being treasured and looked after by the British Museum.

Tell the Arabs the Africans want Egypt back

In the Early years Egypt had nothing better than a wooden warehouse to store the stuff. Their museum was out in the desert. Now, Egypt has a modern museum with Temp. control & Humidity control and laboratories & X-ray & "2 Cat Scanners other non intrusive methods to scan a Mummy and scads of Egyptologists. It is a 4 story museum and they NEED more room. Some of it still sits in storage unexamined since Carter found King Tut. There is THAT MUCH STUFF. And it is a public museum too. Everything is a treasure as it is a piece to a puzzle of the early days. . My dad had a chance to go to Egypt before he died hoping to see that stuff in person. He was dismayed to find that much were in other museums in OTHER countries.[Germany, Poland, France, England, Italy, the U.S. and in private collections too= no one saw it] or the pieces were on tour. It would cost more money to chase after something that has been dead 3000yrs. Fortunately, the pyramids were still there(now was a bad time to find out he is "claustrophobic" as everything is in the ground or in a cave.) Most stuff was "off Limits" because of people breathing emit moisture which is detrimental to stuff that has remained moisture-less for thousands of years I have probably seen more than he has because of the Internet. No, I never rode a camel nor did I float on the Nile River or meet the people.(so this was before Covid 19) Right now is a bad time to go because of the unrest in Russia/Ukraine so you learn never tease a lion or puddy-tat.

@@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew😂😂😂😂😂😂

Still can come to grips that Egypt wasn't built by black Africans, I see.

Stollen is nice at Christmas time.

Left eye of Horus brusued busted Out.. masonic LIE.. it's totally BullshAt

The ears are the most delicate and easily broken part. They go first.

That is just what a faker would want you to think. I don't know if it is a fake. But no other image that far finished was found there. It is in the correct style and materials.....so everyone has to pick their battle .. @@jamesforbes2205

@jamesforbes2205 Hasn't the official narrative, for delicate sculpted structures, identified the nose as the most delicate? After all, no one has given an adequate explanation for the reason for the multitude of "denosed" statutes. No reason better than, having just recently watched comrades die at the hands of Haitian Blacks, as well as the humiliation of losing, the soldiers of Napoleon took their frustration and anger out on statutes' noses. A feat easily done with a musket butt. My favorite reason as to why it is so pristine is that it so brilliantly fortifies the fantasy that the Kemetu resembled this work of fiction. Simply put, this thing is too white to be real.

My thought on the nose destruction is it from People offended by images that they think are anti religious... we saw this in Iraq not long ago. We forget that these relics have been around for thousands of years.. I'm not accusing anyone in particular it just is a general statement. @@johnhorne9977

With boxing gloves....

but Stierlin is educated!

You do realize they have found many other (often unfinished) in various locations patterned off of this exact bust and done by many ancient artist sculpters right? As well as they found many incompleted from this same site. So not sure where you get this 'very 19th century quality' from. The only thing it differs from is relief carvings which are typically lower quality due to being more quickly made. Now this does not prove or disprove. But he would have had to have one of those from another artist in his possession, or based it on one of the incomplete carvings and guessed correctly the finishing details.

Oh good lord. Find out where you get that idea from, from what art in particular and then meet Egyptian revival one two and three.

Yep the statue is definitely a fake.

There may be something in the Hittite connection, especially given the post-Tutankhamun Zannanza affair. However, the most frequently cited hypothesis I have run across is that Nefertiti was the daughter of Ay, who in turn is proposed to be the son of Yuya and Tuyu, grandparents of Akhenaten and in my view the key couple of the later 18th Dynasty. Not only were Yuya and Tuyu parents of Queen Tiy, but Yuya MAY have been the brother of Mutemwiya, mother of Akhenaten's father Amenhotep III. This complicated consanguinity could be compatible with the DNA analyses of Tut, mummy from KV55 (Akenaten?) and the Younger Lady (Nefertiti?).

Oui!

But the Mona Lisa and the Last supper were not found in the same environment at the same time. That is the difference

Did you not see the difference in the artefacts ❓️❓️

​@@micheledix2616in any earthquake some artifacts within a house can be totally destroyed and others remain intact. It's a desert, just as many Egyptian tombs were found.

Es cierto eso, pero objetivamente coincido en que tiene rasgos y un estilo de expresión artística que a primera vista no parece coincidir con la época de Nefertiti. A mi particularmente me sorprende esa impronta de "top model" exótica que difícilmente haya visto en ninguna otra obra egipcia. Hay un misterio profundo entre tanta mentira en esta historia. Será por eso que la hace tan atractiva. Yo me hubiera enamorado perdidamente de una mujer así. Me hubiera dedicado a mirarla en silencio por largas horas. Saludos desde Buenos Aires, Argentina. ---- That is true, but objectively I agree that it has features and a style of artistic expression that at first glance does not seem to coincide with the time of Nefertiti. I am particularly surprised by that exotic "top model" imprint that I have hardly seen in any other Egyptian work. There is a deep mystery among so many lies in this story. That may be why it makes her so attractive. I would have fallen madly in love with a woman like that. I would have dedicated myself to looking at her in silence for long hours. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

@@microlatinamicrocontrol1240 There are thousands of women who look like that all over the planet. Just go to Brazil. But I'm sure they have them in Argentina too. Definitely in the US, Canada, Germany, Egypt, Israel, Ethiopia......... At least in terms of factual structure and everything. And in many different tones!

There is sand all over the place in Egypt, and theres all kinds of ways

The archeologists that found it found it buried in a rubbish pit behind what they determined to the sculptor’s studio/workshop. It was buried before the town was razed, they estimate when the order went out to expunge all imagery of Akhenaten. The shattered bust of Akhenaten was found in the same pit. So it escaped damage because it was already safely buried before any of Amarna was destroyed.

Yes, my thoughts exactly, I do not see how, especially if sitting on a shelf in a prominent position, in a place that would have been pretty pristine, (and the city I assume, before it was looted and destroyed by the later pharaoh), that it would have escaped any damage. I think it is a fake, or a copy, as intimated here, made by a man desperate to garner kudos for himself and his country, it is far too perfect no matter how artistically technically brilliant those ancient Egyptians were, to be left in that condition in such shallow ground, and being of such delicate material.

Agreed. The bust would have had no protection from rain and chemical deterioration being buried just beneath the surface of the ground for 3,000 years! Common sense tells us that it must be a fake. Had it been discovered INSIDE a sealed chamber, as Tutankhamen's treasure was, its perfect condition would be understandable.

@@mysticone1798 That is purest ignorance. LOTS of things excavated under just INCHES of sand in egypt were found with their paint intact. MOST of the temples that have been exposed to the elements for a century or more STILL have paint surviving on the inside of their roofs, where the sun doesn’t shine. And the bust was buried in a deep pit, that had then been covered up by the demolition of the building it was behind, and then that covered up by 5 or 6 FEET of sand. That is as protected as any artifact that that dry climate needs. Oh, and if its such a fake, if there’s no compelling proof its genuine, then WHY would the Egyptian authorities want it back?

Yes. Me too. It looks like half formed raw clay.

Its not fired in any way, it's stone with plaster smeared over it, xray scans showed the shoulders were way off and plaster used to fill in to make them even. I have to wonder if the guy didnt find a crappy bust and had a forger "restore" it with plaster and pigments taken from the site

They knew nothing of firing it up to make ceramic so it is still in sun baked clay.

I don't know if the ancient Egyptians ever used clay for the outside of a sculpture, but it's definitely not what we're talking about with this famous bust--so what are you on about? You don't name the film, date it, or even give reason to believe it wasn't fiction.

I think its fake but very beautiful all the same.

That says a lot! 👍

This Nefertiti is a German manufacture. If you look at the children of Nefertiti for example: they have elongated skulls. Populations with elongated heads still live today in Central and East Africa. This tradition of lengthening the skulls of children during their childhood does not exist either in the Middle East or in Europe. Queen Nefertiti, like her entire family, was a black woman. Shame on the people who made this!

yes, but it would require more extensive removal of samples from it

No, as that is destructive testing as they need to scrape off some plaster to put it through a chemical bath to analyze that for possible pollen grains.

Die Pieta im Vatikan ist auch ein Wunderschönes Kunstwerk von Michelangelo das ich persönlich sehr viel höher bewerten würde vom Schwierigkeitsgrad. Die Nofretete Büste wird viel zu hoch bewertet, natürlich auch ein wunderschönes Stück aber viel leichter herzustellen!

200 years ago, nobody in the world could read ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. I'm glad Europeans showed up to study and preserve what had been lost for thousands of years.

1 good deed does not justify theft. It's like i come into your home and clean it spotless, but then I steal your title deeds. Would you say "At least he shined the floor"?@@customsongmaker

@@AlternativPerspectiv I wouldn't say that if I had been dead for 4,000 years and other people had already taken most of my things

Glad you have 1st-hand experience of your forefathers' bones being carried off by thieves and another nation making millions off showing them off @@customsongmaker

Many artefacts survived thanks to the Europeans who took them and preserved them. For example, the Pyramids of Giza were almost destroyed by local people who took the stones to build houses. Most of the artefacts were preserved THANKS to scientists from Europe, because the Egyptians did not realise their value. Now they are proud of this and call it theft but in fact many of these objects were sold off by Egyptian officials.