Right!!! I wonder if they will add a 3 pt line at some point......

@@Andy-cj7bu Maybe...but wouldn't that be Icing!!!

@@OldGuard53 yeah and that icing will get ya yellow carded every damn time......

@@Andy-cj7bu I'm pretty sure a first offense is a one-stroke penalty

@@OldGuard53 right right. And that sets the score at 10 love if I'm not wrong

Good bc that’s bs. First they wanted to take kick returns out of the game, now they’re trying to persuade kick returns.

Yes safer ones... This was the compromise. Have you seen modern day , I call them missle tackles and clotheslines on kickoffs.​@@tyronewilson7890 Plus it'll be better than the 23% return rate we saw and maybe teams will find ways to return more for TDs who knows.

It used to be at the SB at the moment of kickoffs, there would be tons of noise and cameras would flash from the crowd because the kickoff was an exciting way to start the game. In the last SB I don't think either of these happened and everyone just waited through the formality of kicking the ball til the offense and defense came on the field. So at this point I would say some sort of kickoff is better than the formality we used to have.

That’s because they moved the ball up to the 35. If that wanted to fix it they should just move it back to the 20 like the old days, way more returns

@@cowtowncaptain7649 exactly, idont know why nobody thought about that, probly safety reasons

@@cowtowncaptain7649 way more traumatic head injuries too

@@Legault397”that’s football”

thanks for speaking truth to power. The instant a touchdown is confirmed, I hit ten-twelve jumps on the DVD for a five-six minute hop (except for two point conversion attempts). If the receiving team isn't past their 35 when the offense is out, I just see if the score changed for the made extra point and am done with that boring ritual nonsense. This new rule also looks boring, but not as boring as a thuderfoot touchback. Maybe there will be fewer blocks in the back and holds as well. I'd bet more yards were lost on those than gained on all the successful returns (relative to the 25 touchback spot). Thanks Isaac for the numerous XFL clips. It looks like a low risk gamble if coaches try schemes. I do wonder if the muff factor is going to be a bigger deal - that damn ball ain't round! And you know there is going to be a ton of punching at the ball for turnovers with more people swarming at slow moving runners.

Cleveland Browns' kicker Don Cockroft back in 1980 used to kick the ball higher, instead of farther, and that resulted in lots of kickoff returns and the Browns setting a record that year for the shortest average kickoff return for a season. There's a coach-scheme scenario for you.

Rule 4 is gonna cause a stupid touchdown early into the season next year.

Thanks for the breakdown..

I hate the immediate touchback rule. I'm glad that's gone.

Seems like the least risky thing is to just kick it into the endzone.

Okay that is a good clarification thank you. I like the ability for teams to create formations and blocking schemes. I think this will breath some life into the kickoff. Will be fun to see how coaches play with it.

The main issue is what about penalties. You'd have to eliminate automatic first downs and make DPI at most a 10 or 15 yard penalty and no automatic first down. And it would have to be much harder than 4th and 15, maybe 4th and 25 from your own 20 or 25.

I miss Jon Bois on his own! Secret Base (or whatever they're called now) is trash by comparison.

Hell no thats insane

​@@jandrew1994 Fair point about the penalties but I certainly don't want it to be harder to convert. I'm all for removing as much garbage time as possible.

Or they will make small adjustments to it until it works the way they're wanting it.

Honestly this would be the most interesting outcome by far but I hope they keep it. At some point there will need to be more receivers then it becomes a game of how many receivers VS blockers are needed to deal with the skill of the kicker. Also more AFL kickers or even some from rugby as this is how rugby kick tennis basically works at the moment.

Exactly. Atrocious idea. They should just move the kicker back 5 yards and move the kicking team five yards forward.

It's not the exact same rules as the XFL. There's more leeway about where the return team can line up some of their players. The special teams coaches had a lot of say in developing this version and think there's enough room to allow them to implement some strategic moves. Just moving the kick back isn't going to fly because the teams and the union want to minimize injuries.

They have to make it to the landing zone, so no.

Next you won’t be allowed to grab their legs. Might as well just give them all flags.

If anyone is wondering: if you try and take a touchback in the CFL, its a rouge and the opposing team gets 1 point

No! Players of the side kicking off (and onside players generally) do not have to give yards in Canadian rules. That applies only to offside players, and all players are onside at a kickoff.

@@goodmaro this is right from the CFL rule book Article 7 - Interference By Team A Before gaining possession: A player of the kicking team shall not be permitted to interfere with an opponent who is attempting to play or recover the ball until that team has gained possession. In other words, you have to allow the receiver get the ball before making contact. Also when punter punts the ball in CFL, you have to give the receiver 5 yds when they receive the ball.

@@goodmaro They have to allow the receiver to field the ball, but as soon as he touches it, he's fair game.

@@darcywalker1546 but if you’re behind or beside the kicker you’re considered ‘onside’ and you don’t have to give the returner 5 yards

But then football players get hit

@@Cornpop69 😱😱😱

@@Cornpop69 Yea, the thing the NFL got sued over...

What does the CFL do if the ball goes out of the end zone? The NFL used to have more players running the ball back, but then they moved the kickoff from the 20 yard line to the 30 or 35 and so most kicks go right into or beyond the end zone.

​@@grondheroin the CFL, if the offensive team kicks the ball through the end zone they get a point, a rouge. Usually doesn't happen as they'll go for a field goal instead. A missed field goal that goes through the end zone is also point. If the missed field goal is caught in the end zone, the catching team can either try and return the ball, or take a knee and concede a point for better field position.

I don't think that is accurate.

Not me. I can't stand watching the ball go into the end zone with no return. When I saw the XFL kickoffs I knew that was the better way.

I don’t know anyone who wanted the XFL rule. Most people want them to go back to kicking the ball from the 20, more returns, more action

@@cowtowncaptain7649more players hurt

I never asked for it. You know it may be entirely possible that different people can have different opinions

First XFL touchdown return was exactly that. Even if it's not quite as exciting as the old kickoffs, it will be better than what we've had the past few years.

How the hell is this “no fun”? This is a step in the right direction. Yes, they’re a bunch of old guys who want to protect their billions by making slow changes. Keep commending them for the good steps they make so they make more.

No fun? Almost anything is more fun than the current kickoff format.

Snipers stop the kicker moving after the boot. On an unrelated note, NFL rosters have been expanded to 275.

The kicker can move but can not go past the 50 till the ball lands

If the ball lands in the zone, they have to return it

The touchback is designed to penalize the kicker for not hitting the landing zone.

@@MyLibertyTV Didn't workout that way did it? If the teams actually viewed it as a penalty, we wouldn't see kickers pasting the ball out of the endzone.

That wouldn't work bc kickers would just boot it out the back of the end zone every kickoff, even moreso than now. That's why the only solution is to disincentivize touchbacks for the kicking team

We’ll see how Matt Araiza does.

Was looking for this comment. Also change the touchback to 20 yard line like it used to be and you’ll see way more returns

They don't want returns and they don't want high-speed collisions like the ones that happen every kickoff. They are trying to decrease injuries, not just at the pro level but have this filter down to the HS and junior levels. Too many moms are stopping their boys from playing football because of all the injuries.

@@cvn6555 Right. It's all about decreasing easily preventable injuries. Kickoffs have been falling for years in the "excitement" category. Do not get rid of punts. Punt returns are still one of the most exciting plays in the game.

@@cvn6555 I hear you but the new kick off doesn’t seem to reduce returns or get rid of high speed collisions so I’m confused their reasons

@@thesilence4456 The rules previously in place had reduced returns to practically zero. They wanted to INCREASE returns without having the kicking team's tacklers getting a 40 yard run to maximize their speed. High speed collisions are reduced (kicking team players have no more than five to ten yards to build up steam), and most if not all kickoffs will result in a return. If they had just moved the kickoff back five or ten yards that would give kicking team players five or ten more yards to accelerate resulting in more high speed collisions.

This year, like shown in the video, and yes

Where? In the US.

Mid but knowing the next step if this doesn't work is getting rid of the kickoff entirely I think we can live with it

Yeah. I don’t even care if this works out in the long run, something had to change and at least new ideas are being tried to optimize on field product and player safety

As soon as the ball touches the ground, everyone else can move.

They can. They can move as soon as the ball is caught or hits the ground...or presumably someone on the line.

Defense was the best it’s been in years. Passing yards and rushing yards were way down.

inside kick

onside kick

No. The ball is placed at the 35 when kicked into the end zone.

@@abc_12333 Yes, but, still, no one couldn't move until the ball is moving, so just kick it to the end zone then nobody has to run...hahaha...hehehe

as opposed to endless touchbacks that completely killed kick offs?

The kickoff couldn’t have gotten worse, so I’m up for anything different at this point

You like watching 20 touchbacks every game? Why even line up at that point

I'm so sorry. Maybe you can get some friends together to kick footballs at each other, make hand signals, and then walk off the field without doing anything. It's not the real deal, but maybe you'll get a little taste of the old timey magic.

@@STREAMSONLY-vt6gx Exactly. May as well remove kickoffs from the sport entirely at that point

You say that as if people hated Oklahoma drill 🤨

@@Rastafarianinja you clearly weren't a lineman

@@ivdeadelendaest I played defensive tackle and guard, Oklahoma drill was my favorite lmao

@@ivdeadelendaest Oklahoma drill was my favorite because I rarely got the opportunity to lay the wood on someone in the open field, and sometimes my coaches would fuck around and let me carry the ball lol

@@RastafarianinjaOklahomas are fun compared to most of the other stuff you'd do in practice, but pretty boring compared to how the game used to be.