This was a great analysis for Disney and it really goes to show how domineering they were and arguably still are as a company. The Nickelodeon episode is even better. P. S. You should do an episode about Silento, the "watch me whip and nae nae" dude and exploring what happened to him.

@@IncredibleLynx didn't he go to jail?

Patrick you should consider doing a follow-up video where you discuss on why Disney Channel failed to make stars in the 2010s.

2 artists you forgot: Ally and Aj. Ally was in Phil of the Future and they had a short music career around when Hillary Duff did

Why you forgot Raven Symone and Bridgit Mendler

@Mia Broekmans Grandayy

@Mia Broekmans Giancarlo "Pete The Dolphin" Grande

@@BD-yp3ew Not really

Nick ignored adventure time which went on to basically revitalize cartoon network, and technically they also missed out on Drake's success if you count Degrassi as a Nick property

Did you seriously forget about Big Time Rush?

Dead Man’s Bones

I was mad confused when he didn't point ryan out LMAO

@loveutill theendoftimes could have forgotten the h. That's a way it could be worse.

@loveutill theendoftimes ever heard of Auto Correct?

@loveutill theendoftimes sad I didn’t see this before the edit lol

So was J. C Chaze from Nsync

He’s literally me

And Keri Russell

He's in the picture, don't know how he doesn't see him lol

In the case of Bridget and Zendaya they just decided to do other stuff. Zendaya didn't like the music industry and Bridget wanted to study (i think she even has a phd now). Bella Thorne also choose to not do the music thing, she also talked about how they wanted to market her as a Rachel McAdams type but she didn't want that either.

Abt zendaya, even though she didn't become a pop star, she's a respected and acclaimed actress and even won an emmy and is part of the mcu!

@@fardiachowdhury9758 absolutely! She’s doing incredible things with her acting! I was talking mostly about the actress turned mega pop star trope Disney used to do and how that didn’t exactly work with these people. Doesn’t take away they don’t have thriving careers in other fields ☺️

Ross Lynch would have been on bar with Harry Styles, Shawn and JB if he had left his family band early. Such a wasted potential.

Ngl bridget would have but she chose to not stay in the limelight

Saaaame such a good video

i saw u on the mgk video

Omg LLusion I love youuuuu

@@themeaningoflife1215 which video was that

@@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 machine gun kelly video that was trending

I'm surprised The Cheetah Girls wasn't mentioned at all. Miley literally toured with TCG to promote Hannah Montana.

it even effected the kids who grew up past that! I barely caught the end of the hype but as a kid i still new they were very prominent in Disney culture lol

Raven Symone was the Miley Cyrus for black girls of the 00s and then Zendaya and China Anne McLain picked up the pieces left behind when she left

And Ross Lynch!

I agree, I thought the cheetah girls would be mentioned too. I was born on 00 but I was still able to know them before they weren't as talked about. That's so Raven was my most watched Disney show before Hannah Montana and even when HM came out, I was still watching it lol

But Olivia was also on the Disney show HSM the series. That’s basically where she started to get recognition

I’d say Thomas Brodie-Sangster. He has to wear a mustache to look a day over 15. And even then. The dude is 31.

@@unemilifleur He voiced Ferb in Phineas and Ferb

what about tony hawk

@@unemilifleur Is he the actor from Queen's Gambit

@@theawantikamishra yeah he’s in that, and also in The Labyrinth and in Game of Thrones

At least he got a small part in La La Land lol, yes he played piano more but still sang a bit

@@thanosmaster-abel559 it has been a really long time since I have seen LaLa Land but as fair as I remember he did sing a lot in the movie. He is really good dancer too.

he is actually. he’s got a band called dead man’s bones.

You mean that guy from bladerunner and drive

And Shia Leboeuf from even Steven’s got into acting!

what songs trend on tiktok can be manipulated. it´s not all organic as people think it is...there was a report about it

@@couturend and a lot of songs trend on tiktok after a long time from when it got released

@@livie2907 yeah but also is a strategy that big companies use is waiting till a song start doing well to pop them up on tiktok

@@couturend alfo media has a really great video about this

@@kittykittybangbang9367 thanks will check it out

Everyone knows that

yess

Personally, I like Weird Al's parody of the song, Party in the CIA. It's hilarious and very clever.

@@goldranger5182 cool but not everyone

@@goldranger5182 I didn't know lol

Omg... Never thought of it like this. To me, it was High School Musical.

@@lalaland2107Before HSM premiered 3 years after, TCG broke records and made history for not only Disney but TV period….There’s an article online titled “How ‘Cheetah Girls’ Paved The Way For Disney Channel’s Future Musical Movies” and it breaks down everything🙂

@@lalaland2107 But you can argue HSM is the only ever show to go from Disney Channel Original Movie to an actual Disney Movie

@@naylani7790 damn!!! That's so interesting

@@lalaland2107 the cheetah girls were a actual singing group tho

yeah thats fair. Social media has redefined what is "cool"

@@Jinaria101 BOOOMER ALERT

@@Jinaria101 balls 2 also. POC and LGBTQ people aren't inherently political you're just irrelevant go watch leave it to beaver or something

@@Jinaria101 Wanting diversity in media is political...?

@@Jinaria101 Fair. I understand the criticism. But at the same time, can’t it be possible to focus on both good character writing AND diversity? Why must it be one or the other? Minorities groups are so often underrepresented in media and even if they get representation, it’s often in form of a stereotype or they’re being villainous. By perpetuating these stereotypes in media, the same (often toxic) stereotypes will be applied to a group of people. REAL people.

because no one cared about them

Hey had a band as a side project! I can’t remember their name off the top of my head but their music was really good!

👁

@@OfficialVarsityDropout dead man’s bones

I suspected that was him!

@@BRMF yes!

look at little mj junior, she doesnt cry

Marvel is owned by Disney though

@@sadi215 omg she lowkey went full circle then lol..

She still works for Disney and never left lmao

@@shaina8947 technically yeah but she’s more respected now because of marvel and other movies and shit and at least marvel will let you say things that mature audiences like

She never had a good voice tho

@@nella8555 she actually has a nice tone and a decent range which is adequate popstar material

@@nella8555 it was okay.

I’m gonna, I’m g-g-g-onna swag it out

@@nella8555 have you listened to something new?????no you are just a hater, period!🤣

Exactly

Literal genius

I think this is why all those stars got big upon leaving disney, and those that stayed like Selena struggle even in to the current year.

@@tr33main Selena music career is actually pretty decent rn. Not as big as here Disney days but her music career has always been solid. I think she more focus on acting more so than music anyways

@@tr33main Selena is huge, more Hispanic followers but she’s doing very well. Selena did take a step back but she’s very successful and tame

Disney Channel peaked during this era

frrr

I remember watching the debut of several of the shows and movies mentioned. It makes me feel so old now. It didn't feel like it had all happened almost 15 years ago

2002 -2010 actually that was Disney’s golden years

Wouldn't say crazy.

i think the names fun to say, i like it plus free promo if everyones talking about how hard it is to say 😭

As a teen currently, I can say that in general we watch A LOT of tv, but we basically binge whatever we're watching and it's all stuff from streaming services. Like, compared to when I was a kid and actually watched kid shows on tv, now I just binge multiply shows at once. Also, the popular "teen" shows now are all super dark compared to old teen shows, like, when I think of teen shows now I think of Netflix or CW. But also you're right in the fact that there are a lot of times we just watch youtube or tiktok. I can only speak for people around me and myself so obvs it does differ a bit depending who you talk to and where you go, but this is my insight

@@nevehughes6111 Right, I just can't imagine most teens these days binging sitcoms on Disney Plus. When I was a teen (10-12 years ago) it wasn't uncommon for people my age to be watching Glee, iCarly, and Hannah Montana all in the same week.

@@nickit7655 I think you'd be surprised. I know plenty of people with Disney+ who binge show on it (including hsmtmts and glee) as well as cartoons, maybe not on Disney but they are targeted towards kids. Maybe not the same shows as 10 years ago, but mostly because there are just other shows now. Also for people like me who are late teens, we still kinda grew up on hsm and some of those 2000s shows. I know a lot of people who watch more kid targeted shows as well as adult targeted shows, I think it's just more a case of we binge TV a lot and there's so much out there available that we aren't limited to channels

The first season of that show was geared toward fans of the movie. The second season felt way more kid-ish and was a huge step down.

right!!

Cheetah licious Xmas still my jam

Maybe he didn’t count her because Raven was already successful as an actress before Disney. Her come up was different but I do agree he shoulda mentioned the cheetah girls because the formula was still similar

Cheetah girls omg that takes me back. I love those songs

@@ThaCanvasDon Jonas Brothers was successful before Disney as well. That's actually why they got their own show.

They were literally so overworked and working with people that were not so safe to have around children, Demi was literally raped by someone who worked at Disney as a child which is so sad.I’m sure Disney was just worried about money not about their well being which is why so many of them lashed out to leave

@@YenellyT yea Demi was in an unfortunate situation, but I wouldn’t say they were overworked, majority of actors from kids shows say their time on set was fun and it didn’t even feel like work. Even skye Jackson in a recent video she made that everyone always had a great time and and she would often hang out with the cast of other shows cause they filmed in the same lot , and everyone would get together and play basketball or something when they weren’t shooting. Now maybe Selena , Miley and Demi probably had a Bigger load on their shoulders because they were pushed as the role models, were the leads of their own shows and they had to keep up with they’re music careers. Even tho they were young , without all that hard work they probably wouldn’t have been as successful as they became and till this day they still a lot more relevant compared to other Disney stars. And others that had bad experiences were put into the industry by their parents and didn’t even really have the passion to be in the entertainment business to begin with like jennet Mccurty. The media doesn’t help either when they make minor things that most teens do seem like a bigger deal just because they play a innocent character on tv, that adds to the pressure for some people.

@@YenellyT that’s not Disney’s fault she was raped tf without Disney they would be nothing period Disney made them dance lessons vocal lessons period

@@YenellyT also just like Hillary duff they could have left at any time

@@person8520Uh it is definitely Disney's fault . They should have put measures in place to protect their actors, especially if most of them happen to be kids and teens. It's not a coincidence that most of their actors later on come out with stories of abuse of some sort. But does Disney learn a lesson? NO!

People underestimate Radio Disney. That was escape to listen to while doing homework or chores. I didn’t know anyone my age at the time that wasn’t listening to it, regardless of what they looked like. A lot of people think it was just rich suburban white kids listening when at the time, they honestly targeted every audience. So we all ended up talking and becoming friends with one another in a way that wasn’t common before. I think it’s one reason why so many of us loved Disney growing up. The only time Disney became less interesting was when it became mostly very white after 2010 to the point that it wasn’t as fun to look at anymore.

I remember Radio Disney would also constantly play short versions of the songs during ad breaks which kept it in kid's heads even more.

Radio Disney we’re all ears! C’mon everybody do the hamster dance! Lol

Speaking of Radio Disney, remember when Fall Out Boy was on the Radio Disney Music Awards? And when they were in Big Hero 6? And they got P!ATD for Frozen 2? Next thing you know Disney probably will get MCR or Paramore for their next animated movie.

Omg I totally forgot Radio Disney was a thing.. unlocked memories I forgot existed

I'm convinced that in order for her to be successful to gen z kids, Disney actually asked her and is going to ask its new stars to pretend they aren't releasing music under Disney and have their own "creative control". This is the exact narrative that would make her seem edgy and not just some kid in the Disney machine. So you are expressing exactly what Disney wants you to express and makes it more likely for everyone to listen to her. I mean, isn't it odd that everyone knows about her little "rebellious" attitude about signing under a Disney contract? Seems like its being overly marketed as part of her image.

@@talksweet5397 very interesting take. And also coincidentally, hayley williams helped worked on a couple songs I think with Olivia Rodrigo and one of those songs sound kinda like a Paramore song. Which Paramore is more known as like this pop rock punk band

@@talksweet5397 Kinda far fetched in my opinion. That sounds like some conspiracy theory lmao first of all it isn't that weird to market her creative control over her songs(and its not that hard to believe that she DOES have creative control when she's been posting her songs on her social media before hsmts was even a thing). Plus she's signed under greffen records.

@@seb______ It sounds alike because they use the same chord progression. The same chord progression that hundred other songs also use.

@@PrincessNana08 yes, for example boulevard of broken dreams- Green day and We are never ever ever getting back together- Taylor swift

She's iconic, probably the best disney protagonist imo

Um no

@@panda22518 um yes

@@fakename8713 Raven: am I a joke to you??

12 y/o me literally took her personality

Exactly

Right! Raven was THE original Disney Channel it girl. The Miley blueprint came from Raven

It might be because of how nasty she turned out. She literally complained about being over sexualized since she was on the Cosby's as a kid, and is now repeating the process as an adult on her new show.

THIS!!

@@the.artist72263 Hilary Duff was that.

Nah but definitely happening with these tiktokers

that's an overly simplified way to say that she's an industry plant, but a lot of people would agree.

Tiktok maan

Taylor's backing her help a little in some ways, since medias left and right putting a spotlight on her being a taylor swift fan and one of the biggest fandom of course she's a swiftie - so majority of swifties hyping her up on social media really boost her name and music.

Course. Lol.

Yeah she seems to have a better career in acting than in music

She was the best actress out of all of them.

She tried her hand at music for a while, but realized she liked acting better

look at little mj junior, gonna cry?

@@lilxtasy4936 Stings doesnt it??

facts.

I loved Ashley’s music and yes the album Headstrong so underrated! Love that album! My favorite is Suddenly.😇😍

@@andreasmeelie1889 suddenly is a beautiful song. It used to make me cry for some reason lol. I also really loved he said she said.

She is too Britney thats why she dindnt make it

he said she said was a BOP.

The last clear memory I have of my now dead aunt was us watching the high school musical 2 premier. She made popcorn and we sat and watched it. We loved it, I didn’t know she would die two weeks later. It really was such a nostalgic and fun time. We will never have anything like that again. Especially with the rise of Disney plus.

@@Honey-rp6zx so sorry for your loss

Girl, I remember Lizzie McGuire, as I was part of that era! Oh, it was such a wonderful time! I miss that era.

i wish i could've experienced this. alas i was too young.

Right I was born in 1999 and I experienced all of that but I do remember Lizzie McGuire because my sister was born in 94 and was a huge Hilary Stan. My son was born in 2019 and I sometimes think about how he would have never experienced any of what I experienced as a child.

That's a really good point. I think with the rise of social media, a more "progressive" media, and even youtube video essays like this one have all contributed to this sort of demystification of the entertainment industry. I mean, Britney Spears has been all over the news recently, not because of new music, but because of a legal case that is a clear example of how these huge popstars can be exploited and controlled. As you said, aritsts have more self-advocacy than before, and even fans are more aware and sympathetic to the artists they support. I did not know Olivia owned her masters, that's great! I know at one point The Weeknd had exactly that advice to new artists starting out: own your work.

Taylor Swift is not the first artist to talk about and being exploited for music. There were many artists that were vocal and huge who talked about being explolited from their labels that were bigger names than her. Prince, TLC, Toni Braxton, Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey. Taylor really didn't do anything special in terms of getting artists progressive record deals. It's just about having a good lawyer at the end of the day and how bankable you are as an artist.

what does "owns her masters" mean? my mind is thinking a masters degree but she's 18 so i doubt that's it 😅

Additionally Taylor made a lot of money on her music unlike the artists listed above.

@@SR-zv5ue They never said she was the first. She's just helped put a spotlight on it because she has a huge platform.

Aly & AJ aren’t famous outside the US and outside of the 2000s. All the others in this video are famous world wide still up to this day.

theyre making cool indie poo nowadays, i love their stuff

*late 2000s

honorable mention but not nearly on the same level

@@RR-js4nl yep, also the cheetah girls

Selena’s music was not the stronghold. If anything it’s Miley by a landslide. Don’t you remember how big Hannah Montana was? All her tours sold out quickly and her albums were number 1 in the country for a while. And Selena is heavily manufactured with her music, she doesn’t write any of it and all her songs cater to the pop scene when Miley and Demi have taken a different route.

@@Ashley-km4qi I think you miss the part when she said "the *last* stronghold", not "the".

@@Naahi95 she still wasn’t the stronghold

Demi “fell out” by 2010 because they went to rehab that same year. It basically stopped the trajectory their career with Disney was going in. Fortunately they maintained their fame with their music when they came back and had more creative control over their music

@@Ashley-km4qi idk if u can actually properly read but she said "THE LAST STRONGHOLD"

The same happened to me. I started to find myself not nearly as interested in the newer Disney shows once I was in 6th grade. Occasionally, I'd watch an episode of a show that I had already started watching and enjoying when I was younger, like Good Luck Charlie or Wizards of Waverly Place, but I tried to get into watching shows like Ant Farm, Jessie, and Shake It Up, but I just couldn't enjoy them. It's not that the shows are bad, but I was officially coming to terms with the fact that I was now "old".

True

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 yes exactly! I would still watch ant farm, jessie, GLC, and other shows released during that time and would enjoy them for the most part, but they weren't as good IMO compared to HM and wizards. So once THOSE shows ended I really stoped watching

also it should be mentioned that in that gap, while Disney US wasn't doing anything, Disney LATAM was constantly trying to put artists out. Disney LATAM had peter punk which was basically the story of Peter trying to be big with his band, then there was Violetta which basically created one of Argentina's currently biggest singers, Brazil had que talento that was a series to promote College 11 that was a duo signed to Disney. And it also had Soy Luna which was kinda like violetta

I was born in 2001 and in 2013 everyone i knew was in their whole teen beach movie phase at 12 and 13 years old.

Not if you're an animation fan like I was.

It was the best hey girl!

@@Launchpad05 the whole CN Real thing….

2009 was like the biggest year of the Disney channel. The brand recognition was off the charts. It kind of crashed in 2011 when The Jonas Brothers, Miley, and Demi were no longer there losing like 3 major groups at once. It probably wasn't a good idea for them to cancel jonas after the 2nd season even with low ratings.

@Jackie Stevens I was a preteen during the 2002-2004 era when Disney Channel was called “Zoog”. Back then it features shows and movies that were kid-friendly and portrayed realistic teens/tweens doing regular teen stuff.

at this point shes cut all ties with disney, minus her finishing the last parts of her show and thats it. after that she has 0 ties to disney

@@DR-fc1ey yeah only her acting career is with disney which many people have already forgotten about so she just needs to finish the shows contract and she’s free from the mouse

Oh trust me, Disney doesn’t need anyone

@@killerqueen9120 Exactly. They always find new ways to make money.

@Kirsten A like every other big artist

Popularity can only take you so far when it comes to music , you still have to consistently drop top 25 billboard hits to say relevant . Even with lots of money and promo that’s tuff to do. Plus it’s hard to get the mainstream to listen to pop music targeted towards kids

Nick only succeeded with ‘’The Naked Brothers Band’’ IMO Victorious had one hit I believe and it was ‘’Freak the Freak out‘’ I don’t believe any of the songs charted after that Victoria Justice music career was a flop. Jennette Mccurdy didn’t even really want to do music, Miranda Cosgrove wasn’t that invested in her music. BTR had one Gold song I think which was ‘’Boyfriend’’ which it went gold prolly cause of Snoop Dog, the show cancelled Its not really much to look into to be honest mostly all Nick stars flopped besides Naked Brothers Band

@@Solavation Damn you forgot about ariana grande lmfao

@@idk4435 No Arianna Grande doesnt have any records with Nickelodeon Records as Arianna Grande, theyre all victorious tracks. all her records as Arianna Grande are on Republic she went on to a music career after Nick. They really didn’t have anything to do with her post victorious as far as I know and I wouldn’t say Nick built her pop star image she managed by Scooter Braun Lol

@@Solavation Nickelodeon made her tho

@@Firedogies noooooooo not the case at all Arianna was on broad way before nick lol they didnt make her die they boost her visibility sure but, saying Nickloadeon made her is like saying she was nothing before victorious which is hardly the case

To me, HSM WAS the beginning of it all. It swept the nation, even for teenagers like myself at the time. Everything that came after it was part of that hype train and no one knows why HSM was lightning in a bottle, it just WAS.

Not a precursor to it since kpop has been there even way before (if anything it was inspired by some jpop before growing into its own thing iirc) but i guess that's the closest thing we got that's still iconic to millenials 🤔 as spice girls was to other gens and even the more risqué PCD lol

I remember during high school, when we were given group assignments to make a musical, we all went with HSM, even if I never fully watched it at that time

kpop dance videos was just inspiration from black artists like janet jackson etc not hsm 😭.

We had to do a All in this together dance routine at school. HSM for me came out just at the right moment, I was 7-8 years old and it was the one thing everyone in my class was talking about. After that of course my interest in dance routines and music in general (especially music in English from Disney) peaked. So for me HSM was indeed the beginning, what a time…

You could argue the whole school system is a children's experiment to make them functional and productive adults. Not giving them an education and letting them experience the harsh reality of capitalism is equally as bad too.

@@triadwarfare Not having a normal childhood usually fucks somebody up later down the line when they're adults. Now it's not always, sometimes they are able to avoid complete breakdown if they have a good support system.

@@triadwarfare capitalism

Oh no, some kids made millions, poor them.

@Emily R You are neither, so talking hypothetically isn't so mighty.

it has that Gen Z appeal and it suits the demographic of the audience, that's why it's so famous.

Yea I wouldn’t say homegrown but “industry plant” is a reach. Simply because she wasn’t necessarily hiding label connections it has been straight up and embraced it since the beginning.

@@JRNova11 definitely agree. for someone who has huge label and industry connections she definitely has a lot of free agency with what she writes and that’s super cool

I wonder if dan nigro is related to laura nyro....

@@ladiorange I just looked it up, it appears not. that would be pretty sweet though.

You want REAL 'girl power', watch 'Iria: Zeriam The Animation' instead.

@@Launchpad05 Lmao, thats a throwback classic

I honestly preferred the Cheetah Girls over most of the Disney Channel musical shows/movies. Especially the first movie (I didn’t like the sequels much). It was a good role model for diverse girls of color and teenage girls following their dreams and working hard for it. That’s the kind of message that todays youth desperately needs.

That’s because she was already signed to RCA Records, that mulan song she recorded was just a side gig.

They missed out on Christina when she was like 13-14. She was already 16-17 years old when she recorded Reflection.

@@hotepx2935 not true, “After recording the song ‘Reflection’ for the Disney movie Mulan (1998), Aguilera signed a recording deal and released a self-titled debut album of dance-oriented pop music in 1999.” She got signed BECAUSE of Reflection

@@qiqisongs but she didn’t sign with RCA until after she made reflection, Disney should’ve heard her talent on that and signed her themselves instead of letting her leave.

@Kirsten A she wouldn’t even have had the opportunity to record Genie without Reflection

Underrated comment

😂😂😂😂😂

Ironically, that line was from an animated film, and animated films were being pushed aside in favor of tween crap.

Yup I said the exact same thing!

Damn

Didn't predict everone in the world simultaneously being famous in infinitesimally small spheres of influence though.

Seems pretty egalitarian, I wouldn't mind if we didn't let individuals influence us for decades at a time.

Where's my fame bro

@@astrofish6163 Slavefluencing!

It's one of the best for sure

for me it's phineas and ferb and gravity falls

Same

Seriously, how could he have forgotten Ryan Freaking Gosling?!

He was talking about musicians that got their careers started because of Disney Channel. Ryan Gosling is an actor so it makes sense why he wasn’t talked about in the vid

@@eyesack2007 Ryan Gosling also has a band called Dead Man's Bones

@@kittykittybangbang9367 yeah but he is most known as an actor, whereas Christina, Britney and Justin are all best known for their music

Oh yeah, I'm from Poland and I still remember how big the show was around here (same with "Soy Luna" actually). I was really surprised when he mentioned the years of their peak popularity as a gap, but then I found that these shows have never been aired on Disney Channel in the US (apparently they thought the telenovela format wouldn't apply to the American audience). Disney was still thriving, just not in the States lol

From the US, I love Soy Luna and Bia, and saw them on Disney+. The Violetta soundtrack went platinum in a bunch of countries. Tini was 14 when Violetta first aired. In 202, Tini was named Billboard Argentina's Artist Of The Year. I love her music too. I feel like she would get so much more recognition if she went with a record label with less ties to Disney. She's really talented.

ooh i loved TINI's song "Got Me Started"!

@@user-ih4so4gx3r They rarely air foreign programming on English-language TV networks in the US. Even shows from the US, AUS, NZ are rare; Canadian shows have a slightly better shot because the accent is similar. So non-English programming wasn't going to be dubbed into English on Disney Channel, and they don't own a separate Spanish-language channel.

They pushed mexican Karol Sevilla with Soy Luna as well. Disney Latam tries to make shows from time to time but those were the two major musical ones.

@Call Me, BLEGH Me, If You Wanna Reach Me Yeah, true, but it wasn't directly piggy backing off of a certain TV show or movie for success. They were the only ones who started with an album first and then went on to do movies and other stuff.

@Call Me, BLEGH Me, If You Wanna Reach Me Jonas Brothers did actually have music before Disney, Nick Primarily they got signed a bit later. But youre right SOS used to play all the time; But I also remember other movie tie in songs like Year 3000 and Hold On. Also they used to play the hell out of ‘’Look Me In The Eyes’’ I’m honestly not ashamed to say some of those songs were bops and I was a fan of JB. I havent played there new shit tho at all

@Call Me, BLEGH Me, If You Wanna Reach Me The Jonas Brothers did a remake/cover of “Kids in America” to promote Disney’s Meet the Robinsons movie. They covered “I Wanna Be Like You” for a re-release of the Jungle Book. They covered “Poor Unfortunate Souls” for a re-release of The Little Mermaid. Their song “Hold On” promoted Disney’s Johnny Kapahala: Back on Board. The band sang a new version of Disney’s TV show American Dragon: Jake Long. They stared in the Camp Rock franchise and had their own TV show. Disney premiered their own 3D concert movie like what they did with Hannah Montana.

It was also when the internet and social media was picking up! And they leveraged it. They posted everything on UKposts and they used to do livestreams and stuff

Yeah cause the formation of their band had nothing to do with Disney at all. They were also musicians first, that's why even after getting a show on the channel, what they did onscreen and what they did for themselves could be seen as separate entities

As a South american Violetta was such a huge sucess is South america

I’m from Europe, Violetta was the big thing here too

I love her

Oh my God I completely forgot abput that show. Im eastern european, and I just remember how all the girls were obsessed with it and we all hated it. I’ll give her a second chance though .

Also Patito Feo at the same era with Violeta was huuuuge thing and Disney Latino America bought the rights of the show and the second season was on Disney Channel.

Exact

I was in hs when the show came out and it never really interested me, but once I became a fan of Olivia I def watched the show simply because of her😩

Yea I only watched the show because I wanted to see Olivia

That's a very good point. This might be because I'm older and kind of stopped watching Disney Channel in the early 2010s, but I didn't know that Bizaardvark and HSMTMTS existed until Olivia's music came out (I know Bizaardvark is slightly older, but still). Honestly, when Driver's License came out, I thought, "Wow, what a great song. Who is this girl?" and when I looked her up, I thought, "Huh? She's a Disney kid? Man, I'm old..."

@@cadiieboii8221 bro same😂 it was actually pretty good, as well. tho when she wasn’t in s2 as much (because of sour ofcofc) i stopped watching 🥲