The Run In! | Fan Debate 2024
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День томуWelcome back to the Fan Debate, brought to you by SkyBet, with Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher alongside some of the biggest fan channels in England.
This week we begin with the fallout from the international break as Gareth Southgate England side prepare for Euro 2024.
The title race hots up at the weekend with champions Manchester City hosting leaders Arsenal at the Etihad in one of the biggest games of the season. Can Mikel Arteta get one over his mentor Pep Guardiola? And can Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool take advantage to potentially go top of the table?
Aston Villa, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United are all in the hunt for Champions League football, and we’re joined by fans from each club as they make their case for who will secure European’s top footballing competition spot.
David Moyes’ West Ham still see themselves in the Europa League and currently sit in the final European spot, so is the criticism he has faced as manager justified?
Finally, Nottingham Forest have just appealed their four-point deduction which has seen them drop into the relegation spots with Everton and Luton Town above them. How big of an impact will the financial regulators have in the final stages of the season?
We’ll be back next week where Gary and Jamie answer the panels questions.
CHAPTERING
00:00 Promo
00:37 Introduction
01:00 International break chat
02:20 The Anfield Wrap’s Abigail Rudkin
05:30 Arsenal Vision Podcast’s Clive
11:02 Jay Motty from Stretford Paddock
14:58 Oliver Lowe from City Xtra
17:29 Man City vs Arsenal
36:25 Tottenham Fighting Cock’s Alex
45:55 Luke Robinson from UTV Podcast
55:09 Liv Elliott from Blowing Bubbles Fanzine
1:02:25 Greg from Forza Garibaldi
01:22:59 Finley from Oak Road Hatter
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@mintygreen8760 Місяць тому
Arsenal supporter here - for the love of god please keep Clive on
@Rudi_Mentary723 Місяць тому
Man United supporter. For the love of God..yes..keep Clive on. Such a gent. A complete opposite of that Robbie.
@kudoskallum Місяць тому
He says Trippier weirdly though…
@Luke-ym9ys Місяць тому
Speaks very well. Calm, composed and knows what's he's talking about
@DanielS10291 Місяць тому
Where is DON ROBBIE
@pauljones8218 Місяць тому
clive talks well for a arsenal supporter not often you can find one that can talk proper dribble comes to mind
@zaid22287 Місяць тому
Clive is a great arsenal rep
@asid28 Місяць тому
Waffler. Chris Eubank vibes. Takes him twice as long to make a point😵💫
@darthpepe2994 Місяць тому
A breath of fresh air from Ty in the earlier episodes. I remember that I actually respect Arsenal
@darrenpearson8451 Місяць тому
Lovely and calm but talks absolute rubbish.
@YouLoveItBiatch Місяць тому
Assured arsenal fans rattle some 😭 god help you in these coming weeks!
@raidenafc6576 Місяць тому
@@darrenpearson8451if someone speaks well they talk rubbish?
@Cbart23 Місяць тому
Where’s that big bald city lad? The one who’s not an accountant. Not an attorney… but he’s on the 115 FC team sheet.
@calholden9627 Місяць тому
Rent free in your head it looks like😅
@garrettkelly5546 Місяць тому
😂😂😂
@garrettkelly5546 Місяць тому
Is he not Haaland's replacement? 😂😂
@Erysx12 Місяць тому
“He’s part of the team”😭😂
@stcr1980 Місяць тому
Didn't ask him to come back because he's an absolute womble
@user-rx8no1zt4c Місяць тому
Clive is so softly spoken and articulates his points well…great lad!
@cbc899 Місяць тому
Anyone else delighted Robbie from AFTV isn't on his anymore lately? New Arsenal supporter is much better
@TheMarmara2023 Місяць тому
Make sure Robbie sees this and it crushes him
@Bantod Місяць тому
Nah some of us miss Robbie though. More entertaining
@pezushka Місяць тому
Behave, he's called Don Robbie for reason, Lives only there under his consent.
@joshbracken5450 Місяць тому
Yep. Clive can speak eloquently and get his point across. Robbie is dreadful to listen to.
@kingEbs2023 Місяць тому
Nope we love Don Robbie.😂
@DamienIRL Місяць тому
Thank you for getting rid of members of AFTV!
@RT-far-T Місяць тому
The way Carragher disses Neville, as though Gary's career wasn't one hundred times better in every way!!
@allelaw7015 Місяць тому
You think AFTV members are bothered? Of course, they do not like anyone standing in their biased faces and telling them the truth and the stupid conclusions they make about players.
@MrBaronCabron Місяць тому
@@RT-far-Tit's called punching up...Neville hardly punches down
@NavyaSagittarius Місяць тому
@@RT-far-Tbetter career how? England didn't have any right backs so Neville got in the team because there was literally no one. Lets not pretend he was prime Cafu lol
@JohnnySins___ Місяць тому
@@NavyaSagittariusno one’s pretending he was like prime Cafu but he was better than Carragher and his accolades are second to none👍🏻
@jamestrant4409 Місяць тому
Clive is so well spoken 👏 he's like a pundit
@ponteterrier4789 Місяць тому
could put a glass eye to sleep jesus
@virupakshawalla5734 Місяць тому
Like a pundit 😢. Like clueless Carragher 😂. Don't be do rude 😮
@seanOG12 Місяць тому
@@ponteterrier4789Troopz and Ty videos are ready and available if you want to wake up 😂
@taylormade2826 Місяць тому
That Clive is a proper arsenal eubank
@tomstrainsandbuses6611 Місяць тому
Clive is such a joy to have on this he's a top lad 👍
@jigsawkid95 Місяць тому
npc
@makeshift112000 Місяць тому
he's deluded & annoying like Chris Eubank. like's to think of himself as a softly spoken coach.
@stevekettel188 Місяць тому
@@makeshift112000he is softly spoken, and he is a coach. What’s your point?
@makeshift112000 Місяць тому
@@stevekettel188 My point is he's not nearly as intelligent as he's trying to come across & he's a "coach" in the same way a guy taking the school football team is a coach, not at this level.
@tonysoprano2912 Місяць тому
Greg mitchell doing the forest family proud 👏 the Villa & Arsenal fans came across well too
@t0mes Місяць тому
I'm glad Clive set the record straight on Ben White. Southgate mismanaged this and now he's on his hands and knees begging for him to come back.
@WeeleyTube Місяць тому
We have too many right backs, especially ones that are actually right backs and not converted cbs. Hed be exposed with England's system.
@e4superfly Місяць тому
@WeeleyTube you obviously don't watch him
@cjc9827 Місяць тому
Nobody is begging for Ben White 😂 bit of good form this season in a good team and acting like he’s world class, do me a favour. 4th choice right back for England.
@miniman2132 Місяць тому
@@cjc9827which 4 are infront of him in your opinion?
@cjc9827 Місяць тому
@@miniman2132 3 (as James isn’t fit) - Walker, Trent, Tripper. Trippier has had a bad run of form which is why he’s 3rd but he’s been great for England and very good for a few years now. Walker is so clearly 1st choice though, nobody really gets near it if he’s fit.
@masegoamogetswe60 Місяць тому
Clive is perfect perfect perfect to represent arsenal prefect.. Can't stress this enough
@MajinPorunga Місяць тому
Never understood the Robbie hype. Just looks like and talks like an oaf.
@cormacpro Місяць тому
Footballisticly is a great word
@1Lance1984 Місяць тому
Bring back Ty 😂😂😂
@bmeshack1021 Місяць тому
@@MajinPorunga Robbie>>>>> Example: Just because Cara and Gary talk trash like normal football fans sometimes, doesn't mean they ain't great pundits.
@WizzWins Місяць тому
Say perfect again
@ashlfc4eva Місяць тому
that’s 4 wins in 26 against top 10 opposition for Gareth Southgate…. His track record at comps is due to playing teams you should be beating! Having favourable draws.. 4 wins in 26 against top 10 teams says it all
@KR-jg7gc Місяць тому
Seems like something Stephen Howson has been saying... and it's all facts!! 😂
@GH0ZT77 Місяць тому
On the flip side of that though, only one team in top 10 FIFA rankings has a better record than us against the top 10 and that’s France. So swings and roundabouts ain’t it 😂.
@Ujio1140 Місяць тому
Ben White has been part of the best defence in the Premier League this season. He's been fantastic defensively and going forward. He plays every week with Saka on the right side. If Southgate was choosing according to form and merit, he should be starting for England, no doubt about that. Carragher saying that he is behind James and Trippier is just ludicrous.
@RossCo.H Місяць тому
He is FFS he's more interested in sunbeds
@henrybaringfowler2061 Місяць тому
Init bro trippier and James is a joke
@AshHalls Місяць тому
Apart from walker is better
@billbaggiotmua372 Місяць тому
For all the Hype over TAA , ben white has the same amount of assists and goals (white isn't on freekicks or corners), and ben white has 2 goals and 2 assists more than kyle walker. White definitely has better defensive stats than trent, and he's probably similar to walker. On the pitch Ben white has been better than both of these players allround, i agree.
@niklaswikstrom78 Місяць тому
His "problem" is that he doesn't offer any of the extremes that the others have. Kyle Walker's pace, TAA and Trippier's deliveries and offensive qualities. He's just a very good full back
@okankaleli6175 Місяць тому
Clive is an absolute legend. I can listen to him talk all day! … great Arsenal rep! 👌🏼
@joekirui6110 Місяць тому
Jamie sounds like he hasn't watched Ben White this season at all
@peawackpurps5004 Місяць тому
😂😂🤣behave will ye Ben white doesn’t get anywhere near that England squad
@kehindeonibada4822 Місяць тому
@@peawackpurps5004Gareth said he wanted to call him up and Ben rejected so your objectively wrong
@MrEwragg Місяць тому
@@kehindeonibada4822I think if we are talking about first team and not just being on the plane he’s probably correct. He’s 3rd or 4th pick at RB. He’d have probably only made the plane because Southgate loves to pick a squad full of RBs
@antonyrainsbury4333 Місяць тому
3rd or 4th based totally on name, not displays this season. Walker getting older and not as great as he was, same for tripper, was good last season. Trent isn't a better right back than White, but better creatively. White can overlap, invert and cover at centre back. White walks into this squad and should be 1st choice RB.
@MrEwragg Місяць тому
@@antonyrainsbury4333 that’s ludicrous. You’re purely looking at Walker based on googling his age. Yes he’s getting older (that’s how time works) but he’s not showing it. He’s still one of the quickest players in the league and easily clear of White. Trent is also clear by a margin. His defensive game has improved dramatically this season and he’s looked solid but going forward he is miles ahead. Trippier is showing his age a tad. Last season he’d have also been clear of White but this season I’d probably say White is just ahead. Same for Reece James really. He’s a much better player but injuries bring him down. I can easily see how you could make him 3rd choice. 1st choice is crazy to me. He would play in either that Man City or Liverpool teams (or the Arsenal team if you had all your players fit)
@197Jack197 Місяць тому
Clive is a fantastic rep for Arsenal, talks well, what a gent
@adamoumchiche5512 Місяць тому
Exactly what I was thinking!! Much better rep
@SteveAustin-zv1nn Місяць тому
"Keiron Trippy-eh" 🤣
@miniman2132 Місяць тому
@@SteveAustin-zv1nn focus a bit more on what people say, not how they said it. You might learn something, you know?
@SteveAustin-zv1nn Місяць тому
@@miniman2132 Not learn how to pronounce people’s names apparently. Also, if someone still doesn’t know how to pronounce someone’s name after hearing it for 10 years, then how am I supposed to take anything else he says seriously?
@miniman2132 Місяць тому
@@SteveAustin-zv1nn because you’re a troll with nothing interesting to add to the conversation.
@joshuahudson5250 Місяць тому
Jamie saying ben white wont play CB for england because he doesnt for his club but 15 seconds earlier stated trent will play in the middle when hes never done it for liverpool, make it make sense pal😂
@virupakshawalla5734 Місяць тому
Ees a Scouser inn ee.
@GoonerBoiz Місяць тому
It means more!
@khayanyathi7114 Місяць тому
He said he’s too similar to England’s number one defender…John Stones. Learn to listen
@joshuahudson5250 Місяць тому
@khayanyathi7114 Yes, but he also said that because he doesn't play there for his club, learn to listen to more than one thing.
@khayanyathi7114 Місяць тому
@@joshuahudson5250 learn to apply context, it’s important with the English language. I would say you know the main point he was making, but clearly you don’t.
@larrysanders27 Місяць тому
Clive is way too level headed and intelligent to represent Arsenal on this show, bring back Ty and sit him next to Buvey
@miniman2132 Місяць тому
You’ve got a point. Clive is the perspective football fans need, Ty is the perspective these shows deserve.
@WreggGallace Місяць тому
Felt like they kept trying to get him involved in the daft conversations that Ty would get drawn into and Clive was having none of it 😂
@ohheyitskevinc Місяць тому
It’s Motty! Not sure which I’m more surprised by - Jay being on or Carragher showing his face post-FA Cup and Abdo.
@garypring2658 Місяць тому
why would carragher not show his face it's his job would you say that if that was neville
@adamalexander6058 Місяць тому
Your biggest match of the season left. Was our least important thats why. Its was annoying that day yes but nothing to be annoyed about for longer than a day
@haywoodchablowmee2372 Місяць тому
@@adamalexander6058than why was he gone for over two weeks
@johnmichaelson9173 Місяць тому
And you seriously think he didn't come into work because Liverpool lost a FA tie? Mate, get a grip.@@haywoodchablowmee2372
@PyrexPiccaso Місяць тому
@@haywoodchablowmee2372international break???
@TheLifeOfFredPodcast Місяць тому
Clive is absolutely wonderful, knowledgeable and calm . Not screaming madness. Also. the inhales of the bloke 👏
@NffcR Місяць тому
Neville saying why employ Clattenburg to explain a decision they already know the answer too when they have Mike Dean explaining decisions on commentary now....
@JimmySands-pd7xt Місяць тому
Completely different how can you compare an ex-referee explaining decisions to millions of viewers to a referee explaining decisions to a group of players
@NffcR Місяць тому
@@JimmySands-pd7xt For a start, Carragher n Neville or whoever else is on commentary can tell the viewers, and the average viewer knows enough about the game to make their own mind up anyway
@AndrewClements-hu2eo Місяць тому
Clattenburg say is roll for the high up to explain the rules as they no more with Greek football and want to explain how the Premier league works
@drSvensen Місяць тому
Pretty sure Gary isn't the one making those kind of decisions.
@lukemccabe340 Місяць тому
@@NffcRmaybe because carragher and Neville weren’t referees mate. All the ex footballers have their biases
@NffcR Місяць тому
Forest 11 that won the playoff final... Samba (left that summer) Spence (loan) Worrall, Cook, McKenna, Colback (midfielder playing out of position) Yates, Garner (Loan), Johnson, Zinckernagel (Loan), Davis (Loan) We also lost Grabban, Figueiredo and Lolley that summer. Our subs bench on the opening day at Newcastle had Lyle Taylor, Mighten and Cafu on it. Two currently play in League one, the other doesn't always get a game for Rotherham We had to have a massive rebuild just to have a squad. We also had the most injuries in the league last season that meant we had to then make further signings... Henderson for Navas for example
@Rzarecteh Місяць тому
Don’t waste your time mate, if they can’t be arsed to understand it at this point they never will
@goofysmp Місяць тому
It’s no excuse. You didn’t need to fill your team with loans. You could’ve kept building your squad in the championship until you were ready to be promoted. It also doesn’t justify giving Lingard 200k a week, signing multiple players in the same position, signing players like Origi on loan when you don’t need them. Reyna has only played 3 games because you’re biggest signing Gibbs-White occupies that position. You’re defending and owner that’s so evidently known the rules and broken them anyway. What you’re saying is totally right. They had to invest heavy but they had to do it smart too and they didn’t. The recruitment was reckless and that’s putting it nice
@futurememories1660 Місяць тому
You make it sound like you were in that position due to some external influence. It was all your own (mis)management. When Forest go down, the general feeling will be that it's good riddance for the Premier League to make space for a proper team from the Championship.
@phil-anthrophist3960 Місяць тому
There is no excuse for cheating,, what are you actually gaining by doing that?? 1 extra year in the prem?? It's not worth it,, now you're looking at relegation anyway,, if your club couldn't stay up without breaking the rules it means you shouldn't be in the league,, you should take the relegation on the chin and move on!! Once August/September comes the previous season is forgotten,, but now it'll be remembered as the season you cheated just to stay up for 1 extra season,, that's a ridiculous reason to cheat,, atleast do it like city and get trophies out of it
@dontchatbreeze Місяць тому
Whats your point. Surely thats your clubs fault for mismanagement, they should be aware of the financial rules of the premier league, no one is forcing you to sell, you just got promoted so have massive financial gain
@captainhowdy9845 Місяць тому
Redknapp saying that Forest, when they came up, 'bought 4 goalkeepers' is just stupid. They lost their main keeper to Lens, signed Wayne Hennessey on a permanent contract and Dean Henderson on loan. When Henderson got injured, they signed Keylor Navas on loan.
@rebelcitylad4422 Місяць тому
Forest spent the same amount of money in their first season back in the PL as Burnley have this season but they have a £105m threshold where as Forest only could spend £61m
@JimmySands-pd7xt Місяць тому
Not sure what your point is… doesn’t matter what the rules are for other clubs, you have to stick to the rules for your club
@Rzarecteh Місяць тому
@@JimmySands-pd7xt Doesn't mean you can't call out the BS rules for what they are. I accept that Forest have broken the rules & accept our punishment, but the rules are a complete disgrace geared towards 6 clubs.
@rebelcitylad4422 Місяць тому
@@JimmySands-pd7xt the point is that it should be a level playing field, Burnley are a promoted team just as we was last season and it also shows that we needed to spend that kind of money because look where Burnley are after spending £130m and we came up with a far less established and depleted team
@Pjj878 Місяць тому
@@rebelcitylad4422but its not a level playing field
@blakem2667 Місяць тому
Clive!! The voice of reason
@mduzungu3146 Місяць тому
Clive is God's gift to football punditry. I've listened to him for 5 years on the Arsenal Vision Podcast and he still amazes me every single time. So articulate, well-spoken and his football knowledge and tactical insight is top. It's about time he gets some airtime.
@rajbos29 Місяць тому
they spent 10 minutes trying to downplay ben white and then 10 minutes again trying to overhype mainoo. Thats why very few English prospects grow because as soon as he has one or two bad games they will start dismissing him
@MainooFan Місяць тому
Not really, White’s in the most stacked position on the pitch for England, Mainoo’s in the most bare position for England with far less competition. When players refuse to play for England (For whatever reason) you’ve got to understand that a lot find it disrespectful, hence the “Downplaying”
@uduakise8312 Місяць тому
@@MainooFan Whose better than white? you have an elderly mancity veteran on his last legs, trent and a poor trippier on his last legs as well. Ben white should be playing for England on merit.
@mezzala1014 Місяць тому
@@uduakise8312So White is the best English RB?? 😂
@MainooFan Місяць тому
@@uduakise8312I think this season, Ben White’s been the second best English Right Back. But, that’s my opinion, not Gareth Southgate’s. Southgate still gives Lewis Dunk minutes ahead of Branthwaite, he clearly values experience & performances in an England Shirt.
@Totas2406 Місяць тому
@@mezzala1014He’s definitely up there yes. Downplaying that or finding that funny tells me someone doesn’t watch Arsenal games all that frequently or at all
@chrismeakin7830 Місяць тому
It would be great if the mainstream pundits actually knew what they were talking about. Forest had no squad after promotion. They also moved 40 players out over the next 2yrs, but no mention of that. The breach only happened because we didn’t take 17.5m less for Johnson, which only took 2 months longer. If it was a level playing field, instead of allowing 2yrs at the championship reduced rate of allowances, Forest were way inside the limit! It really should be the same for all clubs, because teams without the parachute payments have no chance.
@karanvinod2593 Місяць тому
Spot on, mate. Why should Forest settle for less when all they have to do is wait another two months and Spurs came in offering nearly 20mil more for Johnson. If anything, it’s the sustainability rules that’s a joke.
@wr2899 Місяць тому
If my aunt had bollocks she’d be my uncle… if the rules were different we wouldn’t have cheated…😂
@khadijamohamed9175 Місяць тому
Ben White is better than Trippier and James. He is dependable, reliable and apart from a better final ball not much difference.
@joekirui6110 Місяць тому
Possibly Arsenal's most underrated player this season.
@eddiejohnson2201 Місяць тому
No hes not hes a centre back playing right back because hes not good enough to play centre back and arsenal dont have any other options.
@Kzeditzzz387 Місяць тому
Yeah stop he is good rb
@VR46314 Місяць тому
He was poor around the winter time and cost arsenal points , he also looks like Madge from Benidorm
@KarenandKats Місяць тому
@@eddiejohnson2201 He's been playing RB since he was a teenager. He was developed to play both RB and CB and Bielsa added DM to his game when Kalvin was injured.
@5football56 Місяць тому
Well done Greg representing Forest fans. I think Gary and Carra need to let you speak your point at times instead of taking over! I see why neither Gary or Carra don't understand the situation any of the lower clubs are in, and breaking PSR rules. Because there clubs are those that are protected from it. Shame really
@Destiny51090 Місяць тому
Clive is Better than Robbie breathing like a dragon in the studio
@as8603 Місяць тому
The never ending coutinho fee 🤣
@AM2K2 Місяць тому
The never ending 'you bought VVD and Alisson' 🤣
@alexbailey7787 Місяць тому
Carragher has been found I guess he has finally recovered from losing to Utd 😄 plus nice to see Jay rep us for a change… I love Macca but nice to see someone else from SP
@johnmichaelson9173 Місяць тому
All the people I know couldn't careless about the FA cup If Liverpool lose the league game they'll be pissed off but the domestic cups are nothing other than a day out.
@garypring2658 Місяць тому
could have been on holiday somthing you cant afford other then a day trip to north wales
@alexbailey7787 Місяць тому
@@garypring2658 how convenient…
@alexbailey7787 Місяць тому
@@johnmichaelson9173 that’s just a bad thing cause a trophy is a trophy… if Utd get into UCL next season and manage to win fa cup… and Liverpool come 2nd or 3rd and win only EFL cup they have had the same season…
@johnmichaelson9173 Місяць тому
@@alexbailey7787 It's obvious Liverpool's priorities lie elsewhere. They'd played on Man City March 10th. Thursday 14th Sparta & 17th was the FA cup game. The FA cup, extra time, it's a pain in the arse.
@EatMyShorts12 Місяць тому
Clive speaks so well really love hearing what he has to say.
@kickbackrelax365 Місяць тому
This Arsenal lad is miles better then the other guy
@nathanthompson8652 Місяць тому
Why not punish teams with transfer embargoes rather than points deductions? Easier to manage and has a similar effect on the team, possibly even more punishing. Avoids any asterixes against teams and uncertainty around how many points a team has
@Nico2024-ds3ze Місяць тому
What these guys are missing when they spoke of the create combination play by England, is that Toney was actually playing as a striker occupying defenders. Kane comes deep and changes that dynamic
@CglxDowson Місяць тому
Much better people on this now. Getting rid of the AFTV and Adam Mckenna melts
@CimbomFanFiction Місяць тому
🤣 its true. It is a bit weird not everyone gets a chance to talk. Theres def a few guys just sitting there like can we talk about sheffield or burnley now? Do they talk to them off air? Lol whats the point
@virupakshawalla5734 Місяць тому
Extras. Payed a fiver and a packet of crisps@@CimbomFanFiction
@jaketeall9665 Місяць тому
@@CimbomFanFictionthey talk to everyone over the course of 2 videos. This is part one
@brendanosullivan7002 Місяць тому
Stick with Ten Hag
@KratosIsSick Місяць тому
at least 1 season. hopefully learns from mistakes.
@Fmfcg Місяць тому
Erik GOAT Hag
@Peter-mw3wj Місяць тому
We should only stick with him if we play like we did against Liverpool for the rest of the season and get results. We’ve been terrible this season and he hasn’t been good enough and our style of play is a massive red flag for next season.
@DonLonghorn. Місяць тому
Southgate IN! With Potter as assistent... Egghead Out ! 7 Hag out!. 90 mill Anthony, 70 mill Mount Hag OUT !!!
@DonLonghorn. Місяць тому
Egghead and MU have been Lucky FC this season. They should have less points. 90 mill Anthony Hags player out !
@avenellroad Місяць тому
Clive always top. Right balance between emotion and tactical insights✨👌👍👍👍👍
@Pumbz Місяць тому
Just because you CAN cheat doesn't mean you should do it. Blame the owners and the fans that says its OK.
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Місяць тому
- Lpool,Utd Owners conspired S.League - Lpool,Utd not considered Cheats - City Owners collapsed S.League - City are considered Cheats?🤣
@TheBingbong2002 Місяць тому
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsUtd and Liverpool owners were slaughtered for it at the time and it’s still held over there heads and it’s not cheating to try form another competition there was no benefit for the competitions they were in, city are considered cheats because potentially they could’ve been financially doping and breaking rules for multiple years taking revenue and titles from other clubs
@Pjj878 Місяць тому
That wasn't his argument, what else did nottingham have as an option? Play a season with 5 players? Is that the fans fault?
@MFDOOM4635 Місяць тому
@@Pjj878ye but they clearly didn’t need to give Lingard 200k a week as one example
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Місяць тому
- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not considered Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City are considered Cheats?🤣
@Nacho_22439 Місяць тому
Great seeing Jay Motty, would to see him represent Man U more.
@hamonryechinaski180 Місяць тому
Anything is better than the sperging of Adam M!!😂😂
@robbiehumphreys8197 Місяць тому
Clive is the man.
@ronitagarwal40 Місяць тому
Instead of discussing football, the experts and fans now have to discuss finance and accounts. What a joke the premier League has become.
@Tarek_ElMaddah Місяць тому
Football is a business now with a lot of money pumped in and a lot in stake. That’s an unfortunate fact.
@txbill2512 Місяць тому
Gary has answered his own question where Forest are concerned. It isn't on Forest, it's on the league and what's at stake for staying in the league much less trying to break into the top six. Easy for Gary to throw stones from the cheap seats when Forest are going to do whatever they can to stay in the league. It isn't Forest, or Everton or Leicester. It's on the Premier League and their allowing it to get where it is today.
@nameanteater4772 Місяць тому
“This March friendly” it’s literally for the Euro final qualifiers, the start of the World Cup qualifiers starting for CONCACAF and Asia
@3MonkeysOnAUnicycle Місяць тому
Loved hearing Clive for The Arsenal talk
@PhilBerry83 Місяць тому
Good to see Jay on here
@MrBlonde2222 Місяць тому
Spurs spent €270m this season but you’d think they spent nothing listening to this 😂
@RobinHood-us7sg Місяць тому
Exactly - £47.5m on Bren - we’ll always love him but jeez !
@conor459 Місяць тому
That’s innacurate, Kulusevski was signed 2 years ago but full fee put in 2023 accounts and Porro was signed last January
@hotspurash4825 Місяць тому
Bro don’t just type nonsense…the point is spurs need to go out and make 80-10 million type players to compete ..we always go for potential and tier 2 players so to speak..Allison, Van dyk..Declan rice calibre type players…have some logic 🤦🏽♂️
@hughmcneillie1032 Місяць тому
The Gary O'Neil mention is related to Mitchell Van Der Gaag could potentially be going back to manage Ajax. United would look to replace him with a good first team coach.
@MrDazzaboi1 Місяць тому
My view (and I may be completely wrong here but go with it), I think Ben simply decided to not put himself in a situation where he obviously isn't comfortable. I think it this was a qualifier international break, it would be different. I think he looked at it as 2 non important friendlies, getting ready for a tournament that he probably wouldn't be picked for so why risk an injury or similar. I think he simply put club football above friendlies with an England team that wasn't even close to full strength for these games.
@paulcasey4282 Місяць тому
These top games are very rarely won by the away team. In the history of Pep vs Klopp in the Premier league in front of fans, the away team has NEVER won. You then add Arsenal in this season and still no away team has won away against another top team. Pundits like to do lots of bluster because they are paid to provide insight but I feel these games are decided by something as simple as home vs away.
@nicholowski4766 Місяць тому
Well done Greg! Despite not being able to get a word in without being spoken over. Here’s hoping the rules are changed so that teams like Forest, Villa and Everton are able to invest, just like the big 6 have been doing for years, and grow their clubs. All well and good fans of the big 6 slagging off teams for breaking the rules yet they’d be nowhere near where they are today if these rules had been in place and enforced in the way they have been for the past year.
@gannonmanu09 Місяць тому
Thats why England won't win cause they're picking players based on what they done for England. May aswell bring back Rooney if that's the way they're picking a squad
@UTVPODCAST Місяць тому
Thanks for having me again, Great show UTV
@ulricjude Місяць тому
Liked your segment a lot! The league needs a firing Villa in and around the European spots. Good luck to you!
@UTVPODCAST Місяць тому
@@ulricjude thankyou mate
@Paulav719 Місяць тому
U have it spot on the way u talk about the villa and we are on a up ward spiral love your chanel keep it up
@happy_camper Місяць тому
Good voice to have in the discussion, well done 👏
@UTVPODCAST Місяць тому
@@happy_camper thankyou
@viperskyboy Місяць тому
Clive bossing it as per usual
@twiistaaaa Місяць тому
Jay Motty finally 🇾🇪
@PainX Місяць тому
At least here we don't have to hear him say "dont forget to like subscribe and get involved in the comments" every 30 seconds
@degeautdfanfirst Місяць тому
Finally🟥ETH
@NicholasMcIlveen Місяць тому
I need a browser extension that skips forward any time Carragher is speaking
@PodCuts101 Місяць тому
Ben white is currently and has been the best in form RB in the prem for 2 years. Let’s be real
@gtpliquid1290 Місяць тому
The thing with international breaks is that because England usually qualify without a bother, people just take it for granted. If your national team doesn't steamroll through qualifying, international football is absolutely brilliant and so thrilling. So many games really matter and when you get excited about almost all of your national team's games, even friendlies are something to look forward to.
@CityXtra Місяць тому
Thanks for having us on everyone! 💙
@scottmoffatt5754 Місяць тому
You bored everyone to sleep
@atlasgemz7996 Місяць тому
💙
@kaaro4832 Місяць тому
Yknow
@faris_02 Місяць тому
Yes yes yes jordy!!!!!
@Cantbearsed447 Місяць тому
@@scottmoffatt5754your mum was excited
@stuartclarkson48 Місяць тому
Keep getting Clive for the Arsenal side of things so much better informed than the AFTV muppets
@bookread4919 Місяць тому
Like Clive. Great viewpoint seems balanced
@sly_numero Місяць тому
I support Ben White's decision not to wanna play for England
@rew0rked Місяць тому
Don’t get why it’s a fuss 😂 it’s not an obligation
@werewolf1803 Місяць тому
@@rew0rked you would, wouldn't you. Half of the Arsenal fans are from Africa and India
@jackwebb987 Місяць тому
@@werewolf1803 It really doesn't matter if he's rejected his call-up. We don't know what's gone on behind-the-scenes.
@rew0rked Місяць тому
@@werewolf1803 what
@rew0rked Місяць тому
Are you taking overtime on your holiday?
@thkollias Місяць тому
The rules are ridiculous. The transfer window cannot be different from the psr deadline...
@Itz3asy Місяць тому
I don’t understand how Tottenham fans so feel entitled to win the big trophies. They had a their golden period recently and won nothing. No one in football is has a right to success. They are the biggest pretenders in the league and I’m surprised why no one calls them out on their unrealistic expectations.
@hellohi1445 Місяць тому
Wait a minute…they’re on a 16 year trophy drought and you’re saying they just had a golden era 😂 closest to major trophies ≠ golden era Also they’re the 6th most successful team in England. On a trophy drought. And you’re saying it’s unrealistic for them to expect to challenge trophies?
@Joker-yw9hl Місяць тому
First English team to win the Double and first British team to win a European trophy. Put some respek on the bottler's name
@Amberle73 Місяць тому
@@hellohi1445 Of course it was a golden era for them, they even got to the Champions League final & finished above Arsenal for 6 years as their fans love to crow about. The fact they didn't win anything in that time despite being that good by their standards is precisely why they shouldn't be feeling entitled to trophies.
@hellohi1445 Місяць тому
@@Amberle73 it was their best couple of years but it wasn’t a golden era bro. U man act like Tottenham is Crystal Palace 💀💀💀 They’ve got good history. As I said, 6th most successful. And they’re on a trophy drought. And what ur trying to tell me is that the fans should just accept that? Ur trying to say that it’s unrealistic that spurs fans should expect their team to have the right to challenge for titles?
@kronix955 Місяць тому
@@hellohi1445I mean I understand fans not wanting to accept constant disappointment but 6th most successful team within your country is evidence enough to say yous have never been a big threat for titles in the first place. Look at Torino, Sevilla in their respective nations we don't expect them to win leagues or even win domestic cups often
@user-eb6vj3rd4i Місяць тому
Good on ya Baz for getting the last word in!
@kasjr3790 Місяць тому
You just have to love how the English talk about their football…so entertaining ❤
@hjc9912 Місяць тому
Trippier made a few mistakes and everyone's forgotten how good he is. 10 assists this season and he locked up Mbappe twice. Last year was the main creator in Newcastle's top 4 team and got Premier League TOTY. Before that was the catalyst in Newcastle staying up. Before that he won La Liga with Atleti and got in their TOTY.
@dontchatbreeze Місяць тому
Trippier takes every set piece for newcastle, which is why he has 10 assists. Defensively he has been poor, and hes old now so its unlikely he will recover his form. Its not like reece james, whos only 24 and is recovering from a long term injury, so will go on to be the best english right back
@hellohi1445 Місяць тому
He didn’t lock up mbappe twice lol?
@hjc9912 Місяць тому
@@hellohi1445 Yes he did?
@robertcampbell661 Місяць тому
I love all the hype of the England squad and players, we all know they aren't winning the euros. But gary gives himself the out of the CB's not being good enough, England will struggle to score goals in the knock outs or against any decent team
@BennettIsAmazing Місяць тому
So grateful to have Clive on to represent us. It's not vibes with him it's solid facts, represented fairly, and with an authentic insight that isn't afraid to go against the narrative we all get fed.
@Collerz7 Місяць тому
Southgate won’t play that midfield, he said after the game it felt too open for him. How can a midfield of Bellingham, mainoo and rice be unbalanced? Any good manager would love that trio and make it work easily. Henderson will start most games.
@Rzarecteh Місяць тому
Neville is so out of touch with anything outside the top 6 clubs. The pile in on Forest was ridiculous
@stevenglansberg4468 Місяць тому
Bloody hell clive tell us what happened with Ben White. Im not paying to read the Telegraph
@splinter360 Місяць тому
Lmfao right? Was like he was doing an ad for them. Someone should have prompt him.
@Hinderz Місяць тому
The story was something like Holland asked walker a tactical question about city in the run in and walker gave a detailed answer. Then he asked White what went wrong for Arsenal in the run in. White said he didn’t know. Holland used that response as an excuse to try and humiliate White in front of the squad by questioning his professionalism and whether he even cares about football (referencing an interview he once said they didn’t watch football on tv in his house growing up). This has put them offside with each other and White knows they aren’t going to play him. Holland’s characterisation flies in the face of everything that all of White’s coaches have said about him in the past and his professional pride. Southgate then given a choice between resolving the issue or letting it lay for the time being, decided to protect Holland and throw White under the bus in front of the media. Terrible leadership
@DTblocks Місяць тому
It’s £29 for a year don’t be a cheapo 😂
@JimmySands-pd7xt Місяць тому
White sounds like a soft character for getting so worked up over something like that
@paulangeloff400 Місяць тому
@@Hinderz thanks for that very succinct explanation. You’re right. Terrible management. Exactly what we’ve all come to expect of Southgate though.
@Claznay Місяць тому
Ben White is a big loss mainly because of his link up with Saka, they play week in week out have a really good understanding and support each other, even if the other players are technically better they don't offer that element
@JackoLid Місяць тому
Baz should be a third host of this show, up the Toffee TV
@sideshowbob9501 Місяць тому
Clive really knows his stuff!! Great person to represent us Gooners.
@CourageOfMyConvictions Місяць тому
Can’t even listen to Gary bullying his way through the Forest stuff. Had actually respected him as a pundit at one point. Not anymore.
@10ZvonimirBoban Місяць тому
You English fans are so lucky to have a civilized debate about football. Thanks to the fans, Carragher and Neville.
@jordanfox1622 Місяць тому
Jay Motty Top bloke 👌🏻👌🏻
@thefootballpunnedit Місяць тому
Gary is well off… he recons Forest spend and staying up isnt working… most of our best players in that side that got promoted were loanees. Not only did we have a poor squad by promotion standards… we then had half that squad disappear. We had half of a midtable Championship team upon arrival and stayed up with a game to spare. No parachute payments to get up and half the psr wiggle room of the rest of the league. It was VERY successful to stay up. You can’t look at everything from the eyes of a big club or an outlier like Brighton. That squad wasnt one of the best 3 in the champ at all… we had no parachute payments… and half the team vanished and we still stayed up. It was incredible if you give it full context. They signed a lot they should do xyz is so over simplified it begs belief.
@Hearyehearye515 Місяць тому
Phew, I’m glad you’ve said this because it’s saved me a rant! 🤣 it gets boring the ignorance to the situation but I understand why it gets so easily criticised. Nobody mentions that after all that spending we still didn’t have a squad value in the first season that matched any of the top half of the table or that Leicester went down with a squad value that was twice ours was after all our signings! I think our squad value when promoted was around £15m or something like that 🤣
@Aus_Blade Місяць тому
Cry me a fukn river. You had to cheat to stay up ?? Then you should have spent within the rules, been relegated, strengthened with parachute payments and tried for promotion again … you know, like every other promoted team ?
@dontchatbreeze Місяць тому
Wdym “parachute payments” you just got promoted, you got given all the money from premier league tv rights etc. no one forced you to rely on loan players for promotion, or forced you to sell other first team players, and spent £200 million on like 16 new players
@Rzarecteh Місяць тому
@@Aus_BladeWe didnt cheat to stay up, we were only over the limit for 2 months in July & August this season.
@EmBwoz Місяць тому
Too bad. Nobody forced you to choose a squad full of loanees to get promoted from the Championship in the first place. You did that of your own volition. Luton barely have a squad fit for the Premier League but here they are, trying their asses off and putting in a good effort at surviving. There is zero reason you need to be buying 30 odd players in a season whatsoever. I can see 11-15 players in extreme situations but what actually happened is just bizarre.
@robertmacleod7851 Місяць тому
So nice hearing less argumentative and more balanced views from all sides. Keep the good ones got ride of of the ranty shite, regardless of team.
@Sha_Lom999 Місяць тому
So good to have Jay on 👏🏻
@rustywarrior5288 Місяць тому
PSR - until the deadline for submission of accounts aligns with the closing date of the transfer window, then the rules aren't worth the paper they are written on.
@SantaDeerhound Місяць тому
The Forest lad was right. What he's describing is the equivalent of a professional foul - breaking the rules to prevent an outcome and taking the punishment - which all teams including Gary's do all the time (unless you are Man City and receive no punishment on or off the pitch.)
@Hilly14HD Місяць тому
Well played Greg. Trying to explain our situation to Non Forest Fans is a nightmare and they just don't or want to understand the fact we had a squad of 5 Players when we came up. We HAD to sign Players. Well Represented.
@JimmySands-pd7xt Місяць тому
34? You could have signed half of that amount. Also you only have yourselves to blame for having 5 players at the start of a season. Poor management from your club
@stewartbanner Місяць тому
But who's fault is that? Certainly not the PL or the other 19 teams. I couldn't win a cycling race without doping, should I just be allowed to do it?
@EmBwoz Місяць тому
Nobody forced you to take a squad full of loanees just to get promoted. That was your own choice.
@TheOrlandoTrustfull Місяць тому
I've got this on full volume and it is still really quiet. Just a heads up for future episodes. You can always turn the volume down, but if it's low on full volume there is nothing you can do.
@gfinlay5855 Місяць тому
I know we all complain about Man City, Chelsea, Forrest and Everton about breaking FFP rules, but surely you should not be allowed have debts like Man Utd of 750 million under FFP rules either, that needs to be seriously looked into and I've heard the Utd waffle about it's been there before FFP but surely it still shouldnt be allowed be in a club debt as its not for as Gary says a stadium or training ground module, so Utd need docking too...
@cambatson8740 Місяць тому
Carra came off a bit rude a couple of times though, great video.
@ssmufc9941 Місяць тому
Jay Motty! 🙌🏽
@BlackRuum Місяць тому
Yes Luke... UTV... Keep flying the Villa flag mate... We never get enough credit in the media but you keep us in the conversation... We March On... In Unai We TrusT
@liammcnichol3369 Місяць тому
Good show as always but disappointed at the lack of NUFC representative
@Owl1995TTB Місяць тому
Gary, if you're going to ask someone a question. Can you not at least allow that person to actually answer rather than interrupting them after about four words? That isn't a debate.
@RobinHood-us7sg Місяць тому
Forest x Wednesday 👊🏼
@bencoleman1037 Місяць тому
Jamie grew some balls and finally came back
@FurioussBear Місяць тому
Keyboard warrior alert
@MH-vp7lf Місяць тому
Or maybe he actually has a life outside and went on holiday with his family........
@splinter360 Місяць тому
@@MH-vp7lf Nah mate. He was obviously hiding from "bencoleman1037" on UKposts lmfao
@tommygun6559 Місяць тому
Takes time to recover from a defeat like that. He needed that time.
@atikurrahman9304 Місяць тому
Ok mate.
@tolulopesoetan9999 Місяць тому
The interlude tune always comes as a shock
@samuellamptey8564 Місяць тому
Clive is the perfect representative for Arsenal on this show. Top top analysis and brings nuance to the convo that usually lost with these show. Keep him!
@aaronryan8979 Місяць тому
Carra cutting off Clive on the Ben white over trippier chat is very poor
@joncoish Місяць тому
To be fair they cut off everyone, I don’t know if any of the fans were able to just finish a thought. I guess they have to keep things under control, some of the fans do go on and on…
@SteveAustin-zv1nn Місяць тому
If the hosts didn't cut people off then Clive will still be there, whispering to himself about Trippy-eh and White.
@aaronryan8979 Місяць тому
@@SteveAustin-zv1nn he was correct in what he was saying Ben white has been far better this season then trippier but English media bias has been stopping england winning anything for years so I shouldn’t be surprised
@anonymous7egend Місяць тому
He needs to get to his point faster
@AFCN7 Місяць тому
Keep getting Clive back on here, he's absolutely fantastic
@Ianw236 Місяць тому
Sorry if Man U or Liverpool broke FFP and they said 6 points deduction if you do they would both take it. So not sure why you’re having a pop at Forest doing it.
@aneeshmenon3379 Місяць тому
Point deductions should be for next season. This in season point deduction is just odd.
@obchoseme Місяць тому
big up Baz. top guy.
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