You're telling me Apple avoided anti-trust laws by being MORE monopolistic?

It is just astonishing how apple avoided this lawsuit by being a complete monopoly.

"I think it's wrong that only one company makes the game Monopoly." -- Steven Wright

Being labeled as a monopoly has a lot more legal implications than just "you can become one without breaking the rules." Once you are legally assigned the status of a monopoly, you automatically become a highly regulated entity by the government. The problem has been that the government has not stepped in and labeled these very obviously oligopoly corporations as such, so they are not being regulated to the standards that a legal monopoly would. It's a bit of nuance that isn't covered very well, in general, but I think people need to have a clear understanding of it. We CAN control monopolies through regulation (like limiting the amount they can tax people that use their digital stores), but we need to assign them as a monopoly under the letter of the law.

I’m in that photo at 1:38. It was taken over 10 years ago at the University of Missouri School of Business… but was a journalism class. Apple showed the same photo in a WWDC keynote. Wasn’t staged, you got a credit with tuition towards an Apple or Dell laptop… Apple was way more generous.

What did we do to deserve daily FireShip reports?

Not to mention it's pretty much impossible to use degoogled Android in India, all the major banking platforms have made play test attestation necessary.

Imagine being an open source project is an disadvantage

Apple really pulled out a Savitar lol, "the more you do it, the less the rules apply to you"

Stop distracting me at work Fireship, I'm the only dev left at Spotify scrambling to fix the play button.

What people often miss about monopolies, as you stated is monopolies are not illegal. What is illegal is you can't use your monopolistic status as leverage against other companies squashing potential competition.

Stop distracting me at work Fireship, I have Splunk dashboards to pretend I'm updating

So wait, how is Google paying devs to get them to publish on the Google Play Store for not even exclusivity but to launch at the same time as others is a no, no, but Epic paying devs to publish games exclusively on their store and hold it behind bars for x amount of time is fine?

apple must also have a monopoly on good lawyers. Them winning is outrageous

This seems a bit rich considering this is also the same company that pays devs for exclusive video game deals regarding epic vs steam ... and then even complains that most people like steam more ..

"Everybody has to think different in the exact same way." - Jeff @ Fireship Thanks, it's an epic quote 😅!

I’m almost certain that the recent Spotify news where they barely get charged by google was the nail in the coffin on this for google

Super tragic. Heartbreaking for the techies... A blatant motivation for companies to be less transparent and more closed off 😢

Legal lesson: Anti-competitive practices with self: Not-monopoly Anti-competitive practices with others: Monopoly This is America.

Absolutely amazing summary, as always. Thank you!

Laughing writing this comments from an ubuntu with Android Studio installed making apps for a living. WTF. Apple is so closed and so rigid that it's legally unattackable. It's quite magic.

So in other words, Epic is pressuring Google to change Android into a full Walled Garden, whether they realize it or not.

the main difference was really that apple case was settled by a judge and the google one by a jury

"Everyone has to think different in the exact same way" 👏👏👏 *He comments on his Macbook*

I still don't understand why this doesn't apply to App Store though? Yes Android is open source but the Google Play Store is a private product so how can they be held accountable for creating a monopoly but App Store can't?

@Fireship I love your videos!! Could you make a video on how to do fullstack? As in how to properly split the frontend & backend and how to connect them? Thanks!!!

Amazing info. I would like to listen more of these.

LOL, the headline here is that Apple has better lawyers than Google.

Always great content

Was not expecting the project hug clip. That one got me xD

I'd never though I'd hear a positive characterization of Tim Sweeney.

So, Google lose because they did Android as the Open Source. And Apple win because they make iOS as the Close Source. Looks like Open Source is not the good options for business and everyone want to take the commercial advantage of it.

So glad that you finally back

My question would be what will they do after they allow side loading and stores are created to complete Will they reopen another lawsuit?

What would be interresting, if the EU now forces Apple to open up.... :D

I feel like Google's just doing intentionally bad decisions at this point, or now that i look back at it thats always been the case 😅

What about third party apps on app store ? Is it due to EU or Epic Games ?

"everyone has to think different in the exact same way" shots fired

why this video became private for an hour*

If the google play store rules change, do you think developers will start releasing Andoid-exclusive apps?

Your use of memes for perspective is unparalleled. i.e.: 1:49 had me rolling.

1:02 Remind me of a certain company that thinks that their platform is competitive to steam but it's actually not.

We need a real open source phone OS, running compiled native applications, urgently.

It’s so much better to create your own exclusive platform than to join an open platform and monopolize it

Bro, do u have an ai to find or generate short videos and photos to ur exact needs?

Hey what happend earlier upload? I just start watching it and then it somehow went away and reupload changed the title. Did google/youtube do something about it?

I just kept getting more respect for Tim Sweeney as you rattled off some of his accomplishments and goals. Hearing that he buys land just to preserve it for nature was beautiful. What a gentlemen!

I sure wish we would have gotten the same result with Apple. Aren't they the biggest player in terms of phone adoption rate anyway? Seems like every app prefers to be on Apple before they hop to Android (if they even make the hop)

Another thing with Play Store is, most people blindly believe every app on Play Store is safe, not to say that shady games that target kids

this is the news i need with the voice i need with the info i need with the edit i need, please, don't stop. also in need: a mod for operagx where every time there is a need of a sound you hear "this is the code report", and now I have a new task in hands

"Everyone has to think different in the same way" dro ain't wrong 😂

I'm not sure about the Google case being valid, but it's crystal clear that Apple is much more of a monopoly, why didn't they lose their case?

Every one knows Apple is more restrictive and has no alternate store for iOS unlike Android. Heck, even developers can't run their own app on their own iPhone without paying developer fee to Apple 😂 so this ruling simply means Google lawyers are bad, Apple's were great.

I have watched most of your videos and sometimes i wonder how you get all these knowledge from 😮😮😮😮😮 I will be so happy if you can do a short video on explaining frontend , backend and app development with js and python

Hey ... you know ... I get really excited when I see one of your videos. I already know it's gonna be faya

Would this not threaten Epics own store which also uses exclusivity dealings to hijack the market?

We’re living in a world where less monopoly means more monopoly, and more monopoly means less monopoly. This is all because we treated Harambe wrong.

another smoking gun is that some chat logs literally went "hey remember to turn on disappearing messages." and it's the last message in the log. I believe the judge called it an open attack against anti-trust laws.

Like every time, UE only can make changes in Apple rules pushing them. How they did to lighting port switch to type C.

Apple brides the judge for sure

Jeff, i don't know about your skills as a developer, but you are super entertaining and your references and quotes are always top notch and witty. Don't ever change!

cant wait to support the more free and open software environment by playing my favorite game fortnite on the one truly open operating system, its not like some greedy corporation would ever want to get in the way of that

Stevies' quote should be sub-tended 'with how the current conditions & procedures in the world are laid out'.

Man 30% is ridiculous number its just too much man this is absolutely insane

Hi @Fireship, I hope and pray, you are happy, healthy. I have a question => I have been using Jetbrains IDEs for sometime now but now I feel like I can get stuff done on vscode and it feels like getting expensive for me. What should I do cant makeup my mind. I have a macbook and mostly .net dev at work and js or go personally there is no such requirement of ides work wise. Why did you stopped using Jetbrains products and what should I do?

the code report is so helpfull thx

Great video crazy ❤

Epic Games speaks of monopoly when they are actually making exclusivity deals.

I hate Apple so much for their monopolistic behaviour

On that note, why xbox and playstation doesn't allow other stores? What is their cut?

this seems like the type of thing that will ahve huge ramifications 10-15 yrs from now in a way we couldn't understand now. and probably will end up being negative

Epic did win against Apple. Why else would Google and Apple change their terms to only take 30% after the first million and not before it. We all owe Tim Sweeny a debt.

The long-term impact of the Epic Games vs. Google lawsuit remains uncertain. However, it has undoubtedly created a significant shift in the mobile and game development landscape, with the potential for increased competition, innovation, and fairer terms for developers. As the industry evolves in response to this landmark case, developers will need to be adaptable and strategic to succeed in the new app ecosystem.

The iPhone 111 pro max and boba tea image cracked me up

Its crazy that in america they think about monopolies as somthing good

Epic needs to do this with Roblox, taking 75% of developers earnings for a game they created has gotta be stealing

Well, thanks to EU sideloading is coming to IOS

How in the world did Apples walled garden live this but Android with its ability to allow sideloading and installing other matketplaces didnt??

Now that the EU is forcing Apple to open up “shops”, will this restart the process for them?

I'll share a couple of points that should help clear confusion as to why Epic won against Google & not Apple, despite the latter being arguably "more monopolistic" on account of their walled garden. 1. Epic managed to show that the existence of alternate app stores on Android was a sham - they're all controlled by Google. For eg., they showed emails b/w Samsung & Google execs negotiate a deal where Samsung's app store would only have the front-end developed by Samsung's engineers. Essentially the entire back-end infrastructure including payments, would continue to be handled by Google's App store. Of course Samsung would be compensated for giving up control. 2. Google arguably miscalculated by agreeing to a jury trial, as opposed to having the matter decided by a single judge, as it is common in these types of cases. Companies don't like unpredictability in these matters & having a judge bring the parties together to hash out a settlement is the usual way to go in these cases. Post jury selection, Google did try to remedy this by walking back, but then it was too late. This is a significant reason for this verdict which caught legal analysts by surprise, as normally Big Tech usually wins.

It's funny how Epic and Tim Sweeney blasted Linux as a trash OS, and wanted nothing to do with it. Believes that Windows is superior. Is suing Google and won to have more control to run their software, on a Linux based OS. Can someone please tell me the logic here?

Bro how are you producing videos this fast

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 Google *vs. Epic Games Legal Battle Overview* - Epic Games wins a legal victory against Google, challenging the 30% cut for in-app purchases on the Play Store. - The case highlights the debate over the fairness of app store fees and the potential impact on the mobile app development landscape. 01:11 Apple *vs. Google Legal Contrasts* - Epic Games won against Google, citing anti-competitive behavior, while a similar battle with Apple resulted in a loss. - The closed nature of Apple's ecosystem compared to Google's open-source platform plays a significant role in legal outcomes. 02:06 App *Store Strategies and Developer Treatment* - Google's Project Hug and financial incentives for developers to launch on the Play Store are discussed. - Internal documents reveal strategies to maintain dominance, treating top developers differently, and preventing competition from alternative app stores. 03:04 Epic *Games' Objectives and Tim Sweeney's Role* - Epic Games seeks fundamental changes in app store operations rather than monetary compensation. - Tim Sweeney's bold approach against big tech, despite being an outlier, results in a legal victory and echoes Steve Jobs' quote on changing the world. Made with HARPA AI

Jeff, you've been spinning up video so quickly lately... AI is your right hand?! Line of cocaine on the other... 😅

Imagine praising Epic and Sweeney when they are as anticompetitive as they get. Look no further than how they run the Epic Games Store, and how they bribe developers to launch exclusively on it; as opposed to how Valve runs their store with no exclusivity deals. Epic tries to force consumers to use their platform by buying up games and IPs and forcing them to only be sold on EGS, whereas Valve entices consumers to use their platform with an amazing feature set and user experience.

This at the same time helps adblockers and trackign blockers in their fight against Google.

What's the name of the meme in the thumbnail? The shouting man

These platforms shouldn’t take more than credit card companies. We need to nail them to only getting 0.9 percent of sales rather than 30%. These buttholes have gotten away with this for too long.

Classic google

0:46 afaik one needs to sign up to something with Google in order to even see the source code

Why did this video go private?

Google and Apple should just remove Epic from there platforms..

Steam is next. Steam charges 30% apparently too. But if Apple, Google and Steam are all doing this, is it really even a monopoly? Or just the current industries pricing standard?

"everybody has to Think Different in the exact same way" is a powerful summary of Apple these days

Why did you private the video

Playstore allows side loading for payment methods while Apple store does not . Epic is crying so much for no reason. 😅

So you saying Epic games are Giga chads ?

"No way!" "Forget it!" best parts of the video.

"Think different in the exact same way" - apple

One thing that doesn't sit right with me is that this presents Tim Sweeney on a good light. He's a major league a-hole. Ever since the Epic store was launched for PC he actively encouraged Epic to pursue anti-competitive tactic after anti-competitive tactic just to sabotage Steam. To this day they still give away games for free, and for quite some time they literally bribed developers and companies to release their PC games exclusively on Epic and delay the Steam release. Who wins from this? Not consumers, that's for sure. Epic always plays the same charade. They disguise themselves as pro-consumer and anti-monopoly, but the only thing they want is for any ecosystem they enter to bend to their will so they earn as much money and users as possible. Sabotaging the competition and making everything worse for the users in the long run are just unavoidable yet unfortunate side effects that they couldn't care less about.