"Hollow" is the word for describing this gaming experience indeed. There's no feeling of magic or wholesomeness, and love is NOT in the air. There is dead silence, a feeling of total disinterest from the guests - A far cry from the smiling, crying, clapping people we were sold in the advert. It's joyless, dull, and robotic. Where's the heart?

I mean, we should know at this point that EA is great at making trailers not gameplay

Okay, at this Point the vanilla weddings seem to be working a lot better than whatever comes with this pack 😳😬

No one suspected a thing when that kid brought a full pantry worth of random cooking ingredients to the wedding in a bulging backpack. The time to strike was at hand.

Honestly wish they would just bring back Sims 2 cutscenes. Made special events like first kiss, births and weddings WAY more special. Plus then you wouldn’t have to deal with all of Sims 4 frustrating bs. (Not taking seats, doing random stuff like push-ups or just not doing anything at all!)

This is where rehearsals should have come in. Rehearsals should have been used for players to set a time slot for everything so on the wedding all you have to do is watch it unfold. Wedding at 9am, toast at 2pm, etc. I tested the base game wedding lot and sims only ran in a circle on the lot as if they had no idea about what to do on it.

The amount of micromanagement in this pack is crazy. The Sims 4 usually looks like a movie set and now you actually control it like one, telling all the actors what to do

I really want to make a compilation of simmers when they are yelling at their sims while playing this pack =)))

I wish there was variation in the sim's reactions at the wedding. Like family/parents with good relationships might cry over their child getting married, some sims might imbibe too much at the toast and become dazed... Sims that help the spouses get ready in the bathroom. And if one spouse sees another's wedding outfit early, "bad luck" as in a chance to comically fail some or all of the wedding activities. And if the activities dont go perfectly, a chance for one of the spouses to lose it and become a "x-zilla" and rage in a unique way. Oh yeah, and little things like "jumping the broom" Also, where's the unrequited love possibility? The trailer seemed to imply that'd be a feature but I've yet to see it. I thought there'd be an attraction feature added (like bolts from sims 2 maybe?), to provide depth to relationships..? But maybe that was my assumption? There are so many little ways they could've been creative with this pack. And the fact that its mostly set dressing, and that cake decorating isn't even a career too... Like, c'mon.

we all won when Carl started making mods

I love that they make sure everyone says "this is not the final product" even though we all know that functionally it is.

You know what would've been nice? If *everything* in the trailer was actually part of the GP. The planning. The preferences. The drama. And where are the other wedding traditions? They made such a huge deal out of finally adding functional tea sets... but even that is just a skeleton base instead of something nicely fleshed out, and barely any different from the drink trays...

"and the child is probably going to make a mess" never fails to happen 🤷🏼‍♀️

It‘s kind of odd that they don‘t watch the first dance on their own, because in a way it is much like the dance battle from gtg (dance floor gets cleared and everyone gathers and watches) and those usually work for me … or worked, now I scared to check if they still do.

The way the sims throw rice at the bride over on the toilet was hysterical. It was like they were cheering for her poop success. Lol

“Hollow” has been the gold standard for The Sims 4 since release day.

I forget where I saw this suggestion, but seeing how messy the event was even after you fixed things made it so much more apparent how needed this is. The rehearsal dinner should be for arranging the order of things to happen at the wedding, and the wedding itself should run as a playlist of actions like a cutscene. That would leave the player space for photos, screenshots... or a whole album like in Dream Home Decorator where they make a montage with your pics... or just an auto-generate album of preset wedding photo poses with your sims copypasta-ed in.

It seems insane to me that a pack is so close to release in a state like this. In a normal game, a wedding is next to impossible to do. Nobody will ever sit down or do the (only) available interaction, which is watch the damn ceremony. This is true for a lot of group activities, Sims would just stand around and either talk or literally go to sleep in your bed for hours instead of doing the activities. They never bothered to fix any of it, but release a pack that assumes it all works? Sure why not who cares, they're all gonna buy it anyway...

Why they don't hire modders to do the scripting in the first place is beyond me. I mean, you're better than whoever actually works there, and you're used to working for peanuts. Unless their scripting is done by garden gnomes or something, I am not sure how they could lose. They have already left a lot of the house building to UKpostsrs in recent packs, I see, and it got better finally.

Carl in Thanos' voice: "Fine, I'll do it myself"

Can EA just hire you already please. This is ridiculous, how much you're showing them up. You're a blessing to this community.

The fact that a mod is needed at all to make the scenario actually work is kind of sad.

This makes me nostalgic about my Sims 2 weddings. The nice music playing, the cutest cut scene of couple exchanging rings at the arch, other sims watch and react. Then cake cutting, toast, sims dance, slow dance, eat from buffet table and talking to each other. After that couple gets a memory of a great wedding. Or you can easily sprinkle in some drama 😏 It was so much fun every time and wait… IT WAS ALL BASE GAME. And if you have bon voyage expansion couple goes on ✨actual✨ honeymoon in one of the THREE different vacation worlds with a lot of unique activities and omg HOTELS. And the best part of it is EVERYTHING WORKS PROPERLY! Now, my question is… do we really need Sims 4 in our lives? 😂

Am I surprised? No. Am I disappointed? I MEAN HELL YEAH. HOW IS IT SO BAD?!?!

I appreciate your amazing modding skills but they shouldn’t release a broken game and rely on modders to fix it. I will pass on this.

Child sim - You didn't choose ME to be the ring bearer, have flour and chocolate all over your floor, repeatedly as i stare into your eyes. I know they say they're gonna 'fix' it, the day it releases, but that's gonna have to be one hell of a patch to fix all that, though watching those who got this has been both amusing and kinda what the hell in general.

This to me just further shows that the bulk of the big important devs at the studio has been moved to TS5, and only a skeleton crew is left to scrounge up what few content areas are left.

I’ve always wondered if EA has ever taken note to how much Carl improves the Sims. I also wonder why and how they never thought to hire him onto the team. The franchise as a whole would be so much better

It's really disappointing this is not only a lackluster pack (Really, EA? Just wedding functions?), but it's also another buggy mess they'll probably take a few months to patch up, or... not at all, just look at Dine Out still. Sigh.

As a mom of two can confirm kids will make messes or get into things no matter the environment and they will make eye contact. 🤣😂

I'm so sad. I've been dying for more family gameplay and this is what we get. Thank you for all your work on this game!

This is why I can't get back into Sims 4, you did a great job, Carl, fixing the broken wedding release, rallying the sims attention, and making them sit in and go to their proper places, but you're 100% right about "busy work"; there's no soul, there's no expression, it doesn't really feel like anything is happening, it feels like a bunch of robots doing what they were programed to do, in the most mundane way possible. The Sims 4 is the first game I've ever played that made me feel like I was playing a game; a LIFE SIMULATOR, the first game in my 29 years of life, to make me think "X can't happen because the game didn't program it", the first time I've ever contemplated a game's limitations, and I've played Pong. The older sims had personality, you can get the sims to listen and participate, but their reactions were unique to their personality and relationships with all the parties involved; when sims didn't pay attention, it was to do something silly like start a fight, or slap a cheating partner, or monkey around with friends because the adults were too boring. It was annoying if you wanted a uniformed, magazine wedding, but it was drama, it was funny, it was REAL. No mod can simulate this, because the game didn't program it; the sims doesn't have personality, the "depth" we've all been screaming for. You won't have parents crying at the alter for unique reasons (happy their child is growing up, or worried their child choose poorly), or ex gate crashing, angry cheaters delivering slaps, or drunks acting a fool once the they had one or too many. Sims idles are to just dance, swish their hips and tap their feet, or grin like idiots, even the cellphone fiddling just seem lampshaded as "idle"; and since there's no personality, every. single. sim will do this, even the crotchety scrooge or the intellectual elderly, which makes it feel hollow and pointless, no matter how buggy or fixed the finish product is.

Great Job Carl!! But I’m starting to think nobody on the Sims team can program for jack or they need a better testing phase before getting stuff out to the game changers so the dlc in question is in a better condition than what it is. Cuz Wedding stories is a disaster from what I’ve seen so far.

once again we praise carl

I don't even like or care about weddings in the game but I clicked on this because I knew you would be entertaining and probably give me some ideas on how to enjoy them. Thank you for continuing to make content.

i think it would be nice to make sims watch the first dance and then give them a push to slow dance the couple’s done

In Sims 2 the guest and wedding party (bride and groom) automatically changed clothes. What happened to the meter that would show you how well the party/group/date is working out and how long you have to fix it. I thank EA for adding this to Sims 4, but they did it better in Sims 2. Oh, and somebody need to "talk" to that child on how to act in public.

Wow. This is just upsetting. So many love this game and EA expects us to just hand over our money for hot mess, to be fine with the bare minimum…. I appreciate you and all the mods in this community. It wouldn’t be a playable game without you all. ❤️💕💜

Taking your seats, watching bride and groom exchange vows and then throw rice on bride while she's sitting on the crapper. Sounds like traditional ceremony.

I don't even know what to say Carl. You've been saving me with this game for years and years. You're like the king of the Sims franchise. Thank you!

YOU'RE MY OFFICIANT! 😂 AAAAAAAA that laugh killed me. Love you Carl!

Thank you for releasing your fix for free. I appreciate that. I'm your Patreon, and I was just thinking how irresponsible of EA/Maxis is to release a pack that is not even functioning properly. I mean this is one aspect of the game, and they couldn't even expand that aspect of it without bugs and glitches. Or at the very least have it function decently. I remember when they released Cats and Dogs, they said they wanted to focus on those two pets, so that they feel more than before. But honestly, Cats and Dogs don't feel more than Sims 1,2 or 3 cats and dogs (my pets in the Sims 2 can have careers). And I feel this is the same thing with this pack, I initially would have loved this to be more of a romance pack rather than just a wedding pack. But when they announced it to be a wedding pack, I was honestly excited-- especially when they said that you could ask for parent's blessings, which by the way, I have not seen yet in any video. Is that even something you can do? But now after seeing (SOME) EA game changers highlight the bugs and glitches I am very much so disappointed at this pack. I am not buying it until they fix this pack. I know it's "not the final build", but c'mon, let's not kid ourselves, we all know they're not gonna fix anything when this actually release. This pack feels more like a stuff pack.

The sad part is, even when you fix the pack to work as it’s supposed to, it’s hollow like you said. My base game wedding has more life and personality. Like these sims look like they’re having no fun. It’s sad because I would like some of the new parties and clothes, but it would totally ruin my weddings. Absolutely not getting this pack

Carl, you are so appreciated! Thank you once again for your stellar performance on this ever-buggy game.

You really are a godsend to this community. Thank you for all that you do to make the game better!

Carl, this community would be lost without you. Your amazing guide for Sims 3 and 4 and now your mods. ❤

I am here to watch this even though I know full well it’s going to make me sad because I can’t use mods seeing as I’m on console 😂😂 but I also want to support your work so here I am!

What would EA do without Modders? Seriously. Thank you for clocking in, when EA clocked out. You've saved this pack for the whole Sim Community. THANK YOU !!!

I will not be buying this pack as it is pointless, however you are a true gift Carl, honestly Sims 4 does not deserve you!

I'm not buying this pack before it's on sale, and then only for the world, but thank you! I'm very curious to see what happens at release, because this is just embarrassing. And, am I imagining it, or is the walk different when sims are wearing the big, floofy dresses? The bride in the livestream seemed to have a...cowboy walk? Like her feet are miles apart. Is that new, or has it always been that way? I mostly build, but I noticed it bc it looked so ugly on top of everything else.

"isn't it great? They've shut up!" Too true 🤣

It’s amazing what you did, and I know it sucks how broken this is…but the kid making the messes (plus your commentary) made my whole day, and I can’t stop laughing.

Maxis is a shell of the amazing, creative, quality company it used to be. Thank you Carl!

I really miss the cut away scenes we used to get in Sims 2! That really added something to story progression!

Carl fussing over everything going wrong in the wedding as if he's the bride 😂 love your reviews and guides, they're the only ones I trust cuz u do them with total honesty.

I really don't know what we would do without you. Wow, this pack is an even bigger mess than I thought, but I really appreciate your fixes - this will make it so much better!

As a console player, thank you for your condolences. Much appreciated 😂

I'm dying at Lonely Recess during the wedding. I'm getting this pack because I just want the new world.

Basically it needs a “everyone on their best behavior” command 🤦‍♀️

I just can't believe you have to fix their broken code! It's amazing what you've done for this community. I have a genuine question: do you have back pains from carrying the franchise on your back all these years?

Honestly, we need an INSTANT RESPONSE mod/fix for the entire game. Like every time you ask any sim to do anything or perform any interaction with an object, it should have an instant response - like yours did with the champagne bucket. That should be the whole game. EA should spend a whole year not releasing crappy packs and just work on that if they need to. It would already make the game 100x better.

You can honestly just feel the emotion in Carl's voice during the gameplay of the pack at 1:30. A mix of frustration and amusement, I love it

Carl should be a Guru at this point, he’s doing the work the sims team should be doing, all out of the kindness of his heart. Carl you’re the sims savior right now.

I love how you immediately knew the kid was going to start making a mess. I really enjoy learning about how the sims works too. The terms you used like “routing”, “broadcast”, and how you figured out that sims were trying to sit but then picked a seat that was already filled and that’s why they go into doing random stuff

This fix looks so much better than the actual gameplay I have seen. I cannot believe that you were able to do so much in so little time. You deserve so much praise for even attempting to make this game more playable. With that being stated, I love the mods, Carl! Thank you so much for helping us out.

Such a shame that the sims team can not do what you have done themselves! Well done to you!

Bless you Carl for doing what EA doesn't: care

Please re upload this, my wedding stories are still beyond broken without it

I feel the something extra is allowing the player to set the players and have this turn into a fully animated cut screen where players just sit back and enjoy the wedding progress after the planning is done Seriously Commence ceremony Gather for toast and cake Watch first dance With close ups of the animation they are selling us

I'm not gonna buy this pack, but thank you for your work as always! EDIT: Just like DHD, the "gameplay" in this pack is hollow and borderline nonexistent. Most of these things already existed in the Base Game.

Our hero, as usual. 😄 I wish it worked like clubs, where you can set requirements and they actually comply...adding an order of events would be great so you could sit back and watch instead of orchestrating in the moment...you know, PLANNED like a real wedding.

All hail our Sims 4 saviour, Carl 🙌 Great work as usual, and thank you for everything you do to make the game playable. You make a really good point about the fact that kids don't have anything to do on the pre-made venues, and so they default to making a mess; it's pretty similar to what happens in reality, to be fair! Perhaps it's an unpopular opinion, but I actually don't mind kids occasionally making messes - it can sometimes be fun to have a little bit of Chaos or can make for some good storytelling. The problem is that there is no way to have your controllable sims manage the situation if that's not what you want. It would be cool to have a "BEHAVE" button, like the "LEAVE" button you made for dates, that automatically causes the child to stop making the mess and clean it up. Again, thank you for everything you've done!

As a former catering director, I recall the best brides arranged to have coloring/activity stations to keep kids interested during the reception. It’s clear we need that, amongst MANY other things. If we ever get them so far as to all sit down for the wedding meal (is it grand like on holidays? Is there a buffet station?) it’d be cool if guest sims did that ring your wine glass to make the couple kiss thing, but clearly we need to start with the basics. Thanks for all your hard work and great videos, Carl!

Wow, releasing this for free. Carl, you truly are Too Much. We Owe You Sooo Much.

Wow, nice improvement! And yes lights, outside does not always light up, their appearance looks like they are, but no light projected on surfaces. I have notice it mainly but not exclusively in the Snow festival in Mont Komorebi, there are supposed to be blue and pink lights that make the landscape look stunning at night, now, its a pitch of darkness.

"They just won't. Stop. Talking." lmao this is the problem I had with getting multiple sims in a single space since forever in 4, but it was really noticable in Dine Out. The AI is so chaotic without mods to fix them to actually do what they're told

I'm just watching this video for the wedding stories drama but I never realised you made mods! I'm going straight to your page to find these and install ASAP Thank you for your efforts

I think it’ll be cool for the cake cutting to have the sims take photos, like how they would for celebrities.

Is there a "buff" to make sims want to take pictures? It would even be cool if the pictures taken went in the bride or groom's inventory. I bet there would be some truly entertaining photos taken because you know, Sims AI. Too ambitious? Impossible? Just a thought. Thanks for all your work.

I am absolutely thankful for your videos and input.

I love your work. Thank you for putting so much care into this!

If this is what Carl can do without a budget in just a few days I can't imagine what's EA's excuse for that monstrosity of a pack.

Appreciate your work here man! We all thank you for this

Thank you for all you do Carl!

Thanks for the fixes Carl. You're the best and your laughter is genuinely heartwarming.

Dr Gluon told them to take their seats and the groom sat down too. 😂 Then the bride left. 😂 This pack is fun to watch others trying to play it. I'm going to buy it for the world only. I forgot to mention that the ring bearer I think it was, kept eating the wedding cakes before the wedding would start. Even with them on the table and with a topper. 😂 I'm so glad we have you to make this stuff playable.

I had the same reaction when I first played this. "Take your Seats . Please take your seats. For the love of God take your seats!"

You're amazing! Thanks for all you do!

Just recently found this channel and it is a very healthy mixture of funny, helpful, and informative great content and keep up the great work

Well done for trying, every thing I've seen about this EP is bugged but I am still keen to try it. I am sure that your fixes will make the entire gameplay easier and more natural just like you fixed the restaurants.

Carl, you are awesome, thank you for the fixes you have done.

Hi Carl! I stopped playing Sims 4 for a while so I am completely out of the loop but I'm having so much fun seeing how EA managed to break stuff that *used to work in the game but doesn't anymore*, like the dress code (since basegame, throwing parties); toasts (I remember giving toasts for NYE parties and it worked flawlessly, now it doesn't); engaging kids in events, bringing people to watch a dance (that's how the dance battles worked); etc. It is amazing how the game manages to get... the way it is. Didn't we have a wedding ceremony party already? Did I imagine that? I remember doing almost everything you tried to fix using a mod back 3 or 4 years ago (omg how old is this game?!) with no mods, just cosmetic CC back when Get Famous came out. I guess that the big problem with this lot is that the developers don't really seem to play the game, the lot seems to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big for the activities, the events are spread out all over the place and the timers are tested in top end machines with no other expansions installed: "they responded, there, close the beta" when that is not the real scenario for how players experience the game at all. Idk, it doesn't make me regret one bit having uninstalled the game. Sometimes I remember how fun it was to actually play it, but The Sims isn't built to be played anymore, is it? There are builder packs, there are fashion packs, hoarder, decorator, collector packs, but I can't think of a pack built around the experience of actually playing the game and engaging with it since... Parenthood? Maybe Uni, but I was already fed up with the game and didn't really play it at all.

omggggg 😲*standing ovation until the end of time* when your time comes, there is def a special place in heaven designated for you bro.

What would EA do without you, Carl? Thanks for caring for the game the way EA never did ♥️

Thanks so much for your hard work in fixing this! Debating whether or not I’m going to get this even though I was sooo excited when I heard the announcement. This fix will help tremendously if I do get the pack.

Thank you for doing the improvements!

I died laughing when they threw rice into the bathroom 😂

Thanks for all your hard work making the Sims4 experience better. I'm on console so it won't help me but still love the channel and appreciate all that you do!

Thank you so much for these fixes! You’re an angel🙏🏽🤘🏽

Thank you so much!! **happy sobs** Yesterday I had the worst wedding EVER when I played the pack without knowing these fixes exist! Couldn't get my sims to group for toasts, sitting at the ceremony, or even dancing. I couldn't even get the officiant to stop dancing rather than attend the wedding. Honest, God Bless you for doing this!!