IKR, even the testing method is insane just for better accuracy.

Geekerwan -shows how we should judge performance -elaborates everything in least time possible -doesn't talk rubbish or anything that floats over the viewer's head -reminds us only twice to subscribe and like -leaves with no outro

@@theresnofree8277 That's why every year you need to tell us which CPU is the best

@@JasonPikachu Tech Jesus is great but his presentation is not better than Geekerwan imo.

@@JasonPikachu I guess we are talking about mobile cpu not PC.

Lol indian tech youtubers be like BGMI chla raha h best gaming phone 🤳

@@timserious7678 Exactly!

@@timserious7678 I've also noticed that indian reviewers also regurgitate the same antutu geekbench suite like western reviewers. Geekerwan is a gem

@@nidalspam509 most of them except few don't have a concept of thermal throttling like it's a phone not a laptop if the mobile chip is consuming more than 5-6 watts then what's the point of it. But if a company would restrict higher voltages then thier phone won't show the antutu numbers and these same youtubers will cry about it

@@nidalspam509 Worse still, many of them don't even have the actual devices and are just reading from damn specsheets that anyone else can read from. What a waste of bandwidth.

because not everybody is geek like us brother :)

He can make 50 seconds shorts by breaking this video at Qualcomm & exynos comparisons

I agree. Why hasn't this video soared ? I just don't understand

😂😂

I couldn't agree more.

Ikr they are great

Ikr, they do this better than Linus surprisingly.

No matter how smart you are there is always an asian better than you

Anandtech used to do the same thing, too bad their phone reviewers left.

@@bulletpunch9317 yep when Anand left it all went downhill

See the poco x4 GT performance videos and it's exactly the same than the 8 gen 1 from the poco f4 GT without a cooler

@@__P__o__l__a__r That's why every year you need to tell us which CPU is the best

@@dongshengdi773 为什么重复这么多次

I didn't skip a single add during this 26mins video, I just let all the adds play until the end. It might gains some income for them.

Yeah

They are my friend. Snapdragon 8 gen 2 is tsmc process. This is confirmed already if you look up on it. Thank god I like Samsung but they need to make the phone hardware and leave the chip making to tsmc

Note 20 ultra such a winner

@@robmalcolm8042 8gen 2 destroys a16,a15 in GPU and matches the performance in CPU with better gaming results

@@bloodwargaming3662 not right, watch his other Video A16 vs SD8gen2

@@daidalos1508 i saw that . In CPU performance even though the benchmark where showing a slight advantage for iPhone while gaming. SD 8gen2 outperformed and the GPU was also producing better graphics

The most they do is an benchmark and nothing else. Now THIS, this is what i call content.

Correlates with the use of Samsung fabs... Samsung 6/5nm is absolutely shit

I'm currently using a Pixel 6 Pro, I shall pick up a Reno 8 Pro tonight and compare as it has the 8100.

@@srs0591 gt neo 3 is better at performing. Don't know about other features.

Another reason for me to buy Poco X4 GT.

@@kayna-an Nice Higokomaru pfp

They said they are so busy,have no time to do about English video.if you want to follow their latest video ,you can go to their Chinese channel.A16 and 8gen2 was updated.

@@kingbi139 Where could I find the Chinese channel of Geekerwan?

​@@thespiff youtube.com/@geekerwan1024

@@kingbi139 What is their Chinese channel called and where do I find them?

@@thespiff search：极客湾

SD888's Cortex X1 brought massive 30% IPC improvement over A77 so that's why it consumes a lot. Also after single A77 core the next gen brought two big cores: big and BIGGER (big A78 and bigger X1). The X-series is tuned for max performance/IPC at higher transistor cost (higher chip area), kind trying to target Apple's big cores. - Cortex A76 has IPC at Zen 1 level, not bad - Cortex A77 has IPC 20% above A76 at Zen 2 / Coffelake level - Cortex A78 has 5% more IPC so slightly better than Zen 2 - Cortex X1 has 30% more IPC than A77 so beating Zen 3 by 7% ... 46% above A76 - Cortex X2 has 10% more IPC than X1 so beating Zen 3 by 18% and Zen 4 by 4% ... 60% above A76 - new revealed Cortex X3 should have 10% higher IPC than X2 so 14% above Zen 4 ... 76% above A76 - Apple A15 Avalanche core is monster .... it has IPC higher 55% above Zen 3, 39% above Zen 4, and 22% above X3 .... 111% above A76 (double IPC) It's pretty amazing how ARM micro-architectures evolved from pretty decent A76 from 2018. In just 4 years they almost doubled IPC and left x86 in the dust. My comment to A710 inefficiency: - I think that's the reason why new A715 has no micro-Op cache. ARM focused to increase efficiency to fix A710. - Apple doesn't use micro-Op cache at all (and is super efficient) while x86 ARM Zen 4 has huge 6750 entry, Intel's Golden Cove 4000 entry (power hogs) - x86 needs micro-Op cache to overcome variable length instruction coding issue of CISC ISA (every x86 instr can have 1byte to 15 bytes) which is problem when CPU needs to decode 8 instruction per clock (8th instruction can be anywhere between 8th byte and 127 byte). That's why Zen 4 has huge micro-Op cache and just 4 decoders (half of Apple) even micro-op cache is power hungry. Even worse would be for x86 to deal with geometrical explosion at decode side. ISA does matter for efficiency. - ARM's 32-bit RISC fixed length encoding produce 20% bigger binary code however super easy and efficient to decode any number of instruction for high IPC - ISA does matter. - Modern RISC ISA like ARMv9 from 2020 could be powerful and efficient in the same time. - Old CISC ISA like x86 from 1978 can never be efficient. However performance can be delivered out of x86 - at cost of many transistors for old ISA workarounds and sacrificing efficiency (micro-Op cache, sophisticated predictors for instruction position in decoders etc. all things modern ISA doesn't need at all so saving development time, money and power) - micro-Op cache appeared in the ARM world for the 1st time in Cortex A77 and now slowly abandoning it

Ever been to anandtech?

I'll just add my GPU takeaways: - Peak GPU performance is even less important, even for gaming, since most phones will be bottlenecked by power draw or the CPU. Efficiency at low power matters most since most games run their GPUs on lower power. - The market is much more competitive in this space, but still Apple leads the race, with Qualcomm and Mediatek following, then Exynos and Tensor last

@@iau yo I just bought a phone for like.$350 with Dimensity 8100 was it a good deal?

@@robloxiansexclusive1781 it depends on the phone model, not only the chip in it, like Dimensity 8100 with a watch-sized screen wouldn't be a good deal in any circumstance

Apple were always a step above Android chips, now they are absolutely smoking them on all stops! And Apple is not even a CPU company! Damn!

@@robloxiansexclusive1781 in india redmi k50i was available at 20000inr≈240 usd🤯

Steve from gamers Nexus style review

In China their channel is about to have 3 million subscriptions

Because they are just starting to create content in English. On Chinese video platforms, they have close to three million subscriptions.

@@user-dk9bn9wb9t what platform?

@@robloxiansexclusive1781 bilibili

778g is doing ok thanks to tsmc.however, 780g and 7 gen 1 are totally shit due to Samsung 5nm. in fact in China, we call 7gen1 a "debuff king" or "king of shit" because it adds up two bad things: Samsung5 and arm A710

778g is perfect in mid-range SOC. there are mamy videos on bilibli about 778g(sorry my poor English)

Yes, for midrange processors would also be interesting, though it is not easy

Us

Although everyone talks about flagship chips, at the end of the day 80% of people will buy a phone with a midrange or budget chip.

It is already available on the Chinese channel.

For a much more in-depth of the A15, just read AnandTech's analysis.

@@theSeventhDruid where? what is the name of the chinese channel

@@joelrivera9083 极客湾

@@MiguelAngel-rw7kn Agreed... whenever it becomes available. It's not available yet.

in china,geekerwan is one of the most perfessional and popular Technology bloggers....

I was surprised as well. The newest one is still pretty good according to the data but anything in between the Snapdragon 865 and the newest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 is basically hot garbage.

@@fastedwarrior7353 This is all because Qualcomm cheaped out ordering chips from Samsung instead of TSMC

@@ilovemeochan1396 that's the exact point many people don't know and just say latest SD is waste.

@@radhamanohar2307 Nobody would imagine Samsung 5nm fab is so bad until TSMC 8+gen 1 occurs

@@ilovemeochan1396 They weren't trying to cheap out, it was reported that TSMC had a massive bottleneck in capacity since they had to fulfill a large order for Apple, and since Qualcomm has used Samsung Foundry for chips before (820/821, 835 and even the legendary 845 were Samsung), they probably thought it wouldn't be a big deal. No one expected the new fab process Samsung boasted so much about to be utter shite. Next gen will probably see a similar problem since TSMC reported they are facing low yield rates on their 3nm process, which the chips Android manufacturers desperately want to be able to close up the gap between them and Apple as much as possible. Samsung Foundry is boasting some big performance leaps for their 3nm process too but I don't think Qualcomm will be interested.

This is the sort of quality we should expect from professional youtubers. Some reviewers just slap a benchmark score at your face and call it a day, unbelievable

Their team can easily make a such quality video every 2 months. But it is in Chinese, they need time to deeply translate it for youtube. After all, they are not native Eng speakers, it takes time to make it exquisite like this.

@@fd9f339 where to find his Chinese channel

I guess A15/A16 won't have performance curve on chart because of the jailbreak difficulties...(maybe not, just guessing

@@255p Yep, jailbreak is needed for iphones. 2 points on the chart is enough for me - they already give out some information. With 3 points (if somehow possible to grab), I'd try curve extrapolation which would probably be really close to the real one. The curve could be shown with a dashed line to make it clear that it's extrapolated.

dots are due tp system restriction. Some chips and phones(especially Apple) block you to access some data.

The video says that, cuz of the jailbreak restrictions

@@mikexia7711 Then they will be shown as small dots on the chart and nobody will know how awesome their chips are ;-)

You'll have it soon😏

@@Geekerwan can you overclock Apple device?

@@Dhaval_parmar08 no because the software limitations just see how the ip 13 down it's brigth when it's hot meawhile a Android phone even if it overheats it don't down it's brigth xD

@@Dhaval_parmar08 We're definitely looking into iPhone tuning on jailbroken device, more like profile tweaking rather than OC, but it works pretty well, stay tune😉

@@__P__o__l__a__r lol they'll do it anyways