Blue Origin need to get to orbit first before proposing future projects.

Blue Origin sure does love to give press conferences. How about they get into orbit first, then they can take stock of future projects.

Blue Origin is really good developing and presenting amazing renderings of things that do not exist.

Over the 20+ year career of Blue Origin they have proven themselves to be experts in lawsuits, un fulfilled promises and significant hardware delays. There is no way that Blue Moon lander will be ready before 2030

Almost every time Blue Origin in mentioned they tell us about there plans for the future. I think NASA has to take a lot of the blame for BO being useless. Blue can just write proposals and NASA throws money at them. I'm a SpaceX fan because I'm 62 and don't have 40 or 50 years to wait for New Glenn to fly! So I think Sierra should just tell BO to go play with its suborbital rocket and let the big boys get down to building a space station.

I don't really see a problem with the orbital reef. Put a SpaceX Starship in orbit, attach airlocks to it in appropriate places, and *voila*, there's your orbital reef.

Sierra Space has said they could get the Dream Chaser to orbit with SpaceX. SpaceX and Sierra would be a great team!

Blue Origin is perplexing. I would love to read an inside story, I believe the challenges are tied to the wrong management style vs technology. Bezos used the management approach of large established aerospace firm, rather than the entrepreneurial ‘break and learn fast’ management approach of Spacex.

Can Blue Origin be considered a space company when they have never put anything into space?

Blue Origin is the company that really listens to humanity's dreams about space exploration and for enough money they are willing to talk about it.

The moment they announced the reef I said to my Mrs "how can a company that can't get to orbit even start to make a space station?", her reply was to laugh out loud and reply "they can't". Even now they still haven't even come close to getting beyond the carman line (spelling not correct lol) let alone to get into orbit!

Blue Origin is not in the space exploration business. Blue Origin is in the grant acquisition business. The money is huge and they don't have to actually produce anything. It's a great business plan!

The core problem with the Orbital Reef is the same as with most of Blue Origin. They can't put anything in orbit. They're nowhere even close, either. NASA awarding them a moon lander contract was massively premature. Also, keep in mind, BO was founded before SpaceX.

Blue Origin has been round for over 20 years, and aside from building a human rated sounding rocked hasn't done much. It is sad to me that NASA and so many private space companies have tied their fates to Blue Origin.

Oribital Reef in trouble? Uhm, didn't we know that the moment BO announced Orbital Reef???

To me, based on whats been publicly stated. My guess is behind the scenes the teams hit a roadblock related to incorporating windows into the inflatable modules, and its stymied everything.

Orbital Reef really Looks Futuristic 😍

I really like Sierra Space.They should patner with a winner like Space X or even reach out to Europe and India.

Maybe when Blue Origin gets to orbit, we could send all of their lawyers there. How are they going to build a space station when they cannot make orbit? It's not going to stay up very long!

I fully agree. Blue Origin is all talk, and only seem to do "work" - barely thought out renderings to secure contracts and make promises only to be continually pushing back finish dates in perpetuity. We should stop giving them the coverage until they show some competency.

Everything changes when starship can put a 150 ton 27 feet wide payload into orbit. They will want to redesign the station for that capability. An inflatable module fitted to starship could easily expand out to a 60+ foot diameter. Orbital reef looks pretty stupid next to that. Especially if they start linking them together, tethered apart, and slowly spinning.

i almost took a job for BO earlier this year...but decided to turn it down because the management seemed a mess even from outside the company looking in. I love their vision, but their execution is still very much in question for me.

Orbital Reef is a multi-modular (many pieces) space station like the ISS or Mir. These designs are expensive to build, deploy to LEO (require numerous launches), and operate. The ISS cost more than $100B in today's money and required 10 years to build and assemble in LEO. The multi-modular Orbital Reef space station likely will cost ~$20B to build and launch to LEO. The other alternative is NASA's Skylab, a unimodular (one piece) space station with ~350 m^3 of pressurized volume. This alternative is relatively inexpensive to build (it was assembled on the ground), was sent to LEO in a single launch, and was relatively inexpensive to operate. Skylab cost ~$10B to build and launch to LEO and reached its operating orbit about 30 minutes after launch. SpaceX's Starship can readily be configured into a huge unimodular space station with more pressurized volume than ISS (1100 m^3 vs 916 m^3). Cost to build and launch to LEO will be ~$5B. The first Starship space station could be sent to LEO in 2026, well before the ISS is planned to be deorbited (2030). Side note: My lab spent nearly two years (1968-69) developing and testing components and systems for Skylab.

from its earliest days iv been sceptical of blue origin they love to seem like they have all these big plans but they never seem to go anywhere they are more concerned with there image rather than actually delivering

Another good, well informed and objective one, without schadenfreude or cheerleading, so prevalent on YT.

I have always felt Blue Origin was a scam.

👍🏻🙏🏻❤️You were incredibly diplomatic about Blue Origin!😂❤️

By the time BO actually gets to into orbit, spacex will probably have gotten Alpha Centori lol

Hey there is a channel (NASASpacex) on UKposts that completely reuploaded this video

more orbital class announcements than orbits actually achieved

Glad I found this channel. Exactly what I was looking for to stay up on everything related to space exploration 🤘

damn. I was more pumped for the space station than for the moon

Can you do a video on the first inflatable stations put in orbit. Over 10 years ago C.O. Bigelow put two inflatable stations in orbit. What ever happened to them?

I just don't see extended life in space without gravity and sufficient shielding from radiation. If those hurdles are overcome before we destroy ourselves, then sure, I'm sanguine about humanity's future.

I don't understand why NASA gives any money to BO at this point. I'm not aware of ANYTHING BO has delivered. At least ULA, Boeing, Lockheed, and Northrop actually deliver, even if they are slow, uninspired, take no risks, and make crap, they at least deliver crap, which is still more than nothing.

Blue Origin, under Bob Smith, has basically been a company where deadlines simply don't matter. They seem to have no sense of urgency whatsoever, and have let _years_ go by with nothing to show for billions of funding. Hopefully, under new management, they start to turn things around. We'll see.

A significant problem for the inflatable modules for space station expansion is the size limitation and fit-out mass. All equipment to be used in the module needs to be launched into orbit and be transferred into the module via the access hatch, including wall plates, air ducts and other structural components.

9:50 "Life moudle"

Wow this is amazing,hope it will work out great in the future!

Jeff Bozos is living up to his name!

I'll hold my comments until I see Blue Origin actually get to orbit.

Blue Origin seems to be the Hyperloop of spaceflight

It is a very big and complex and expensive project to build and put a space station in orbit around the earth. As a result it can take more years than originally planned. By comparison building a research station in Antarctica is far simpler and less costly. Also the research station is on earth which has an atmosphere.

The only thing Blue Origin has given us is BlueBalls from the constant teasing of new projects that never materialize.

Gives new meaning to, "It's not rocket science."

Space X: Established in 2002, first orbital flight in 2008. Blue Origin: Established in 2000, first orbital flight in *ERROR WILL ROBINSON*

As with other stuff with Bezos, it all looks wonderful. . . . . . . on paper.

As usaual, that news story is "Don't invest Or Hold your breathe" !!

Nice work tsr🎉

Why can't NASA withdraw money from BO for Orbital Reef and recontract to Sierra alone for the Space Station. Then Sierra could choose partners that have a track record instead of the master of vaporware --- BO.

It was well to call attention to the windows issue(s). Picture windows are for tourists, and Reef has to be a functional workspace long before it becomes a tourism venue. It may be that Origin is planned to provide visual platform for lunar and orbital traffic, but that can be accomplished in dedicated space rather than enlarging a vulnerability into what may need to be an 'unscheduled events' core. I think it's perfectly okay to be NASA ugly. Space is hard, there's no customer service when Gravity stuff happens to the fan, it only has to be darned good work so that the machine can do its bit of a job to save lives. Orbital Reef as a series of satellite factories, transfer or rescue base camps, energy harvesters, and laser-print facilities, (and what could be done in a zero-gravity surgical center?) or even computing centers, doesn't need to be tourist pretty to provide a stable, repeatable keel that will support building colonist hardware that has to go somewhere else to do a job. Considering what kind of job Blue Origin has to do, there's a lot of science on the list that has been encountered before in the pursuit and pampering of tourism, from the Disney submarines (!Yay Electric Boat Company!) to the Hindenburg's gas cells (and there's no shame in letting the Nature of space itself do some of the work). Space Gateway must not repeat Ocean Gate. Building for the pence things means the pound things will be much easier to take care of. Not all tourists travel empty handed.

So they deliver once in a Blue Moon?

wOW, Cool CGI !

why arnt we putting a star ship heavy around every planet with a star link system to scan and map the planet and be able to scan the moons around them and be a solar james web style to view out in diff areas

Nice plans, but where are the engines?

Maybe if NASA and the various involved parties were to have connected with Musk's SpaceX, instead of Sierra's Blue Origin, there most likely would have obtained quicker & better results since Musk's SpaceX company has a proven track record getting things done quickly and efficiently.

Can't wait to see the life moudle in space! 😊

It's becoming more obvious that Blue Origin may be that company that takes a fast food sandwich and paints it, glues just the right number of seeds on the bun, sprays it with oils to give ithat glossy juicy look, selects just the perfect pickle, they craft it ti look like a flawless sandwich no-one could resist. But of course it's only an artistic fantasy, and in reality it will never exist.

Sierra should see if Space X wants to Order a few modules. Would be easy for Space X to build a small hub for docking and power for modules to be attached to. 😮😮

Nasa should be awarding contracts based on results...

It would be nice if the Beto crew actually flew (yes I know you don’t actually fly) in space. Hence maybe they’d be taken more seriously.

I wonder how Sierra’s inflatable modules would perform on the surface of Mars? Perhaps SpaceX would be interested in a test and then Sierra could dump BO?

Perhaps Sierra Space should team up with Axiom, adding inflatable modules to Axiom's core. I like what both those companies are doing, and they might be complementary.

Disappointing we don't have more stations and experimental types of stations in orbit in 2023

Earth has a problem: Blue Origin

At 5:45 Did they make that in kerbal space program??

It's always a great look to legally wrangle a contract you failed to get on its merit, when can't even deliver on your existing projects....

It must have some kind of artificial gravity shouldn't it to research?

Just deliver packages we are happy

WHY should we have to disregard Von Braun's orbital ring?

Creating a space station is hard. But need to get the rocket and logistic support up first.

Orbital Queef?

sad that the group that has the best plan five years ago still has the best plan and nothing more. some of the chinese startups went from idea to orbital launch in two years, bo went in five years from suborbital to suborbital.

Any day now, Bezos & company will reveal it's renders of their record setting, world- changing Monorail system!

Blue Origin is truly a clam

I mean, this decade will be crazy fir space, just watch.

I know I'm late t the party for this vid, but major issue was Blue Origin's priorities were all over the place. New leadership coming in trying get them focus on money makers which they do need to do. Like engines, which are finally coming around. Once that done, they trying get New Glenn finished and making money. Blue Ring makes sense, that growing field and then big money ticket is the lunar lander project. Sierra Space is tough bind, their not rocket maker, they do make space vehicles. I'm not entirely sure how their going get off the ground without reliable lifter. It was reported else where, Sierra has dislike how SpaceX treated them or something that nature...So I'm not sure they will use them to launch. Which would be very bad, because no body in industry can do turnaround as fast as SpaceX.

Sifi story with PPT?

I'm still sad Bigelow foundered during the pandemic.

The key phrase in the whole video was "nothing of substance". That describes BO to a tee. At some point they will be investigated for fraud.

35 yrs away

love your videos I think blue origin is fantastic........ at making animated videos lol

I keep waiting to see Blue Origin prove they can actually build an orbital class ship and not just ride off the success of amazon and SpaceX. Till proven otherwise Blue Origin is just that company that built an unsuccessful joy ride for the rich with a bunch of pipeline dreams that will never see the sun.

Politics is the bane in development. You will see crap like this throughout history. Like when Henery Ford tried to market his car. He faces an uphill battle against a company called Allen. Sierra Space would do well by teaming up with Spacex or maybe with one of NASA's booster to test there landing craft. Also these modules that Blue Origen is working on could be carried in Starship once that is developed with room to spare.

Blue Origin is at best an amusement ride company.

NASA giving BO billions makes perfect sense, from a government boondoggle position. BO has yet to orbit so much as a paperclip.

More like Orbital Queef, amirite?

Honestly, Sierra should have known better than to partner with BO if they ever wanted anything more than pretty renderings, at least in a reasonable time frame. They would have been better off partnering with Boeing.

Well, it goes to show that it does not work if you go to your grocer to get an aeroplane designed. Marketing and law suits will not serve.

Tenacity should launch on a Falcon Heavy.

Maybe Sierra ought to work with SpaceX

Blue is probably gonna find its place as a subcontractor. BE-4 engines just sent Vulcan on its way.

It seems like you're really going out of your way to pile blame on Blue here. Vulcan's delay has nothing to do with the BE-4 that blew up early in the tests that they go through to make sure the final product won't blow up.

Besos seems to be more of a (rich) manipulator than an Engineer. He seems to throw money and swim in the red tape, and expects to accomplish something of value. If he's picked out decent engineers, it's possible (I guess). I have my doubts that anything will come of his 'dreams'.

NASA should use SLS to put a huge moon space station, into Earth orbit, with all supplies and docking interfaces. Then, use FH, F9, or Vulcan to launch additional propulsion segments. Astronauts can check it out in earth orbit. Then, use Vulcan to launch an Orion capsule to dock with it in Earth orbit prior to transfer to lunar orbit.

But what is the actual build status of the Orbital Reef Space Station, and when is it planned to be in orbit???

Sierra space is about done... the dream chaser is done and the life habitats are in full size testing and launching... so we can take the shuttle and 60% of the space station somewhere else

Blue Origin is the Star Citizen of space companies.

How is Blue still around? They have yet to do anything and keep getting those sweet fed contracts lol

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