The ULTRA Lineup: Which is Best for You?

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Ubiquiti has released 2 new products in their Ultra lineup of devices. In this video, I discuss the new Cloud Gateway Ultra (UCG-Ultra) and Switch Ultra (USW-Ultra) and then I also dig into all of these new UniFi gateway devices to decipher which one is right for you.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro to Ubiquiti Ultra Products
0:34 - NEW UI Product Selector
1:09 - UK-Ultra Accessories Overview
1:43 - UCG-Ultra
5:54 - USW-Ultra
8:26 - Ubiquiti Products Explained
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 264
@robypnn
@robypnn Місяць тому
I live in Italy but to see news and reviews of Ubiquiti products you are the only channel I rely on. Thank you
@0kk4p
@0kk4p Місяць тому
Italian here too, same as you ❤
@goliteyourworld6
@goliteyourworld6 Місяць тому
This is the video I've been waiting for. I'm not a pro in IT at all and haven't had much time to understand the difference between these devices. I appreciated the concise, but thorough, overview of these devices. Thanks!
@belaircomputerguyllc4001
@belaircomputerguyllc4001 Місяць тому
This video gave me anxiety. As someone who switched to Unifi Talk and then ported back out of it 2 weeks later, I've got to say that UB needs to slow down and focus more on each project. They have so many devices now that even watching Chris (who is always a wonderful explainer) break down the differences of the ULTRA line, it felt like "here's this one, oh and this one... now I knew you'd ask, so here's these three but don't confuse them with the two before the last two" lol. Great video Chris, and thanks for making it through this video without needing a drink - although now I do.
@theglowcloud2215
@theglowcloud2215 Місяць тому
Would be nice, but Ubiquiti is like every other tech company now: rapid releases, no support, and shareholder value!
@Th3_ArCh0n
@Th3_ArCh0n Місяць тому
Unifi Talk is a dumpster fire. I'm getting the last of my customers ported away.
@belaircomputerguyllc4001
@belaircomputerguyllc4001 Місяць тому
@@Th3_ArCh0n Agree 100%. My immediate first impression after setup was that this product needs to be in beta, not production. Custom ringtones didn't even work unless you pushed the beta firmware to the phones and console - completely half-baked.
@Th3_ArCh0n
@Th3_ArCh0n Місяць тому
@@belaircomputerguyllc4001 they also lost one of my customer's phone numbers completely unable to retrieve it for no apparant reason. That was my last straw.
@uzomanwosu
@uzomanwosu Місяць тому
Kinda annoyed at all the options coming out. The ULTRA was exactly what I could have used to replace my old USG at home. If only I could have waited a month...
@rfh1987
@rfh1987 Місяць тому
I'd love to see a video just on IDS/IPS. What is it? What does it do? How important is it in either home or business setups? etc.
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g Місяць тому
If I remember correctly, its the Unifi front end for Suricata.
@samuelhulme8347
@samuelhulme8347 Місяць тому
IDS is intrusion detection, detecting hackers and malware entering your network. IPS is intrusion protection, this means blocking the detected intrusions you do want.
@maxstr
@maxstr Місяць тому
It's very basic protection, nothing like mid to enterprise solutions. Without SSL decryption, there's only so much a firewall can do because almost all malware tunnels through SSL
@omniiomega
@omniiomega День тому
@@maxstrisn’t that something Fortigate do?
@chrism6880
@chrism6880 16 днів тому
I wish the UCG ultra included 1 2.5Gb LAN port for connecting a home server that multiple clients will be pulling from simultaneously
@TechnoTim
@TechnoTim Місяць тому
Great video and shirt 😅. I used the UniFi Express for my Dad's condo. It's perfect as both an AP and Gateway in 1.
@_TbT_
@_TbT_ Місяць тому
Thanks for this rundown! Now I „kinda“ understand what they might have thought when creating so many similar devices. 😂 I am a DMPro user and have been for years now. The Ultra is indeed the new base Unifi router. And a quite good one at that.
@bbrixon
@bbrixon Місяць тому
It's good to know that when I upgrade my home network from a edgerouter + Chinese 2.5gbe switches + Unifi AP Pro. There will be a lot of good options. Thank you for educating us!
@th45h1zn1t
@th45h1zn1t Місяць тому
Thankyou, You have explained perfectly what each gateway offers and has helped me decide which one to go with. Stock is limited in the UK but hopefully I will get one soon. thanks again
@dukeseb
@dukeseb Місяць тому
This is a great overview thank you
@GerhardCombrink
@GerhardCombrink Місяць тому
What I need: A WIFI 6e/7 UDR with 2.5G WAN and a quad core processor (like the UDM used to have). It will also be nice to have a setting on the configuration app that auto applies the firewall and configuration settings that exist in Amplifi with the ability to configure manually from there on (but you can easily default back to if an amateur messes something up).
@edgecrush3r
@edgecrush3r Місяць тому
Thanks for sharing insights on this, I was so confused with the new line-up. was on the fence about the Dream SE and the first the UX showed up with the Lite, which didnt had either of what i wanted and made me really confused, even before Ultra showed up. I already have a couple of Unifi switches and accesspoint and since i am not using protect, my guess is the Ultra will do fine for my needs. Now waiting for getting back in-stock as these are the hot-cakes at the moment,
@j-sebr
@j-sebr Місяць тому
Thanks for the great vid and thorough explanations of each product in this slightly confusing lineup. I am looking forward to upgrading from my existing edgerouter-x and self hosted controller onto the new cloud gateway ultra. Am hoping the controller part will be easy - export backup and import. Not quite sure how easy the upgrade from edgerouter-x will be. Would be great to have some scripts that can export the key settings...
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 Місяць тому
5:23 yep, i remember. i have one of those but i haven't used it since i bought my SG-1100 which runs pfSense.
@user-zb5dz3cj8y
@user-zb5dz3cj8y Місяць тому
I am setting up a small network on a mountain property. I chose the Unifi Express as I will not need many devices, 2 Unifi Mesh and a Unifi Flex. The plan is to run 4-6 cameras on the property and get Wifi on most areas with the Mesh. I have been able to see multiple animals on the property now with a camera I connected to the neighbor's network, with their permission of course, with a Unifi Mesh. This I have been able to build and design due in no small part to your videos. Thank you.
@MisterWhippy4win
@MisterWhippy4win Місяць тому
Of course if you already have a CKG2+, and just want to migrate to a Ubiquiti gateway, the UXGlite fills that niche nicely
@-tsvk-
@-tsvk- Місяць тому
Do you have to use the controller (network app) on the UCG-Ultra? I have a Cloud Key Gen2 Plus and a USG, is the UCG-Ultra a drop-in replacement for the USG as a router/firewall only, or would I have to begin hosting the network app on the UCG-Ultra, instead of the Cloud Key Gen2 Plus?
@markrichter7504
@markrichter7504 Місяць тому
Great video and nice idea on the product selector, is that your platform? I used an express in my home which also has a UDM pro. I had a need for a small AP but also wanted to connect a TV. The express gave me the AP And another port for the TV.
@CarlRyds
@CarlRyds Місяць тому
Thanks for explaining all that 👍 Ubiquity’s product stack was a little confusing for me before watching this. I'd love to see an updated Dream Router in a square footprint (like the Express and Apple Airport)
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g Місяць тому
UDR but also it still seems like it would be multiple devices to replace the original Dream Machine (non-pro).
@grahamkatzer7332
@grahamkatzer7332 Місяць тому
Don't forget that the Unifi Express can be used as a Meshed AP and bridge over to Ethernet! Nice to hop over to another building wirelessly on your property and also have hardwired options in that remote building. Enjoy all your videos and keeping us up to date on Ubiquiti tech!
@veryboringname.
@veryboringname. Місяць тому
You can actually do that with any of their APs if you're just running one VLAN; just use the data ethernet socket on the PoE injector.
@JonesBoula
@JonesBoula Місяць тому
Unify express lasted only 2 days in our household. Wifi is really bad. With 50 total devices (20 WiFi), it got so hot that I put it on a side for some extra airflow. UI very slow to load. I wanted to return it, but with 15% restocking fee and shipping, I sold it locally. Great device for parents if you want to manage it remotely, maybe something for family travels, but you don't want this as router for many devices or WiFi.
@richarddcrossley
@richarddcrossley Місяць тому
@@JonesBoulathe latest beta update for network has made a massive difference for the express. I swapped from a rock UDR to express linked to a switch lite with two access points to make use on of my 1GB. Until the update it was terrible and the console would crash all the time after about 18 hours. I do have 78 devices due to smart home tech. It seems lots better now but still slow. I have the gateway ultra arriving today. I only wish it had a wall mount like the switches but it’s perfect for my new setup and I’ll get a wall mount off Etsy soon. This will solve all my problems and l will use the express as a wireless AP.
@grahamkatzer7332
@grahamkatzer7332 Місяць тому
@@JonesBoula Bummer! Hopefully, you were able to replace or exchange it. Seems like you're at the edge of the Express's capabilities. I have noticed my Express getting rather warm and in my use case in an RV where most times we don't run the A/C I may need to look for ways to keep it cool. I'm hoping to get my hands on the new Cloud Gateway Ultra as it may be better for my use case, just wish it came out before the Express.
@JonesBoula
@JonesBoula Місяць тому
@@grahamkatzer7332 I sold it locally via unify FB group. I lost $50 on it. I picked second Synology RT 2600 router on FB marketplace for $40 and using it with eth. Back haul right now as mesh. I have my WiFi speeds around house at 90% of max and I'm pretty happy with that for now. I will give ubiqity another try in couple of months. For now, I am a bit salty about the return policy.
@kennyg4744
@kennyg4744 Місяць тому
Thanks Chris. Very informative and has given me some ideas for use cases. Quick question. The UK-Ultra has a range of 1250 sq feet. Is this range extended with the Antenna attached?
@kylef4641
@kylef4641 Місяць тому
I love my cloud gateway ultra. It's been performing like a beast since I've got it.
@swiftswamp4599
@swiftswamp4599 Місяць тому
great video, any plans to adding a click to compare option on uinotify?
@andersfischer6361
@andersfischer6361 Місяць тому
On the cloud gateway ultra can I install my old cloud key gen 2 to be able to run secure for my cameras? Thanks for a great vid!!
@johnashton9678
@johnashton9678 Місяць тому
On my UDR I only run the network app, but I believe that it is limited to running only 2 applications. I just opened the controller and noticed that I have a new app on the panel called InnerSpace, so I guess I need to figure out what that does.
@jasonperry6046
@jasonperry6046 Місяць тому
Really great explainer. Thank you.
@mcd5082
@mcd5082 Місяць тому
Man I love Ubiquiti and how well their stuff works together
@omniiomega
@omniiomega День тому
Like Apple ecosystem haha 😂
@tomstechnews
@tomstechnews Місяць тому
Thanks Chris. Great comparison. You are still an expert! Where I can buy the "darkmode" T-Shirt? I try to buy the UCG-Ultra ... when its available in Switzerland..
@Adamtronik
@Adamtronik Місяць тому
Thanks for the vid. Do you know what the QoS capabilities of these routers are like? I use the edge router and the QoS is awesome
@JeremyFreehill
@JeremyFreehill Місяць тому
If I already have a a Cloud Key Gen2 Plus (for console and single camera support) and want to replace the USG, I assume the Gateway Lite would be more fitting than the UCG-Ultra for a 1Gig connection?
@daneg3450
@daneg3450 Місяць тому
With the Switch Ultra...If I want to use it with the AC power only. Would I be able to plug in another Unifi switch NON POE to to the POE in port 8 on the back and leave the front 7 ports open for POE devices then?
@Walterz930
@Walterz930 Місяць тому
I really like the ucgu but sadly not having cameras or voip it would push me towards the udr at the moment I’m using I’m using edgerouter 4 and first gen ap with first gen cloud key
@ludovico007
@ludovico007 Місяць тому
Thank you for your accurate review. Currently i’m using a self hosted unifi controller on a VM (hosted in a qnap) and two ubiquiti AP6-Pro. I have a xgpon connection with 10gbit down/2gbit up speed, routing is managed through the router provided by the internet provider. The switch is a Zyxel with some 10gbit port. I would like to switch to a dream machine pro, however i’m confused about its capacity to handle up to 3.5gbit in routing. Should my connection speed limited by the dream machine? Thank you
@pastevensonjr
@pastevensonjr 3 дні тому
With untangle home going away, im going back to the Unifi line with the Gateway Ultra.
@robbyandrews223
@robbyandrews223 Місяць тому
When I had Comcast in my area the 1Gig Service was actually 1200Mbps, so 2.5G+ on your modem and router would be necessary to get the max speed.
@smithsabom01
@smithsabom01 Місяць тому
what is the recommended NVR to use with an USG Ultra deployment? sounds like you would have to go with a UDR or larger NVR. This is a shame because for space limited use cases, a full rack width unit is hard to place.
@kevinbradt835
@kevinbradt835 Місяць тому
@Crosstalk solutions have you done eney reviews on the engenius wireless sip phone
@user-zn5kn5cd7v
@user-zn5kn5cd7v 25 днів тому
Thank you very much for the detailed information! I have a question regarding forced disconnection: Is there a way to set the time period for automatic disconnection myself with UDR? I am a customer with 1&1 and need to renew my connection every 24 hours.
@user-qt9fb2lu9w
@user-qt9fb2lu9w Місяць тому
Loved what you shared. Made me learn a lot. I am factory of industrial smart management POE switch. Can I establish supply relationship with you?
@kentcurrie7326
@kentcurrie7326 Місяць тому
I am extremely happy with my UDR that now can run three applications simultaneously.
@swissfreek
@swissfreek Місяць тому
I’m glad you came back from the future to talk about the UDR, because the whole video I was thinking to myself “Wait, the UCG-Ultra is basically a UDR without the access point?” It kind of sounds like unless you have gigabit internet service, the UDR still would be the easier option, since your AP is built in, and the downsides (lower throughput) shouldn’t be a bottleneck with “typical” 300-600Mbps cable internet that most people here in the US have. I have gigabit fiber and bought a UDM Pro because of the limitations of the UDM/UDR, but now I could get the UCG Ultra for significantly less and still meet all of my requirements. Side note, I just about spat my water out with your “mother-in-law” comment. That’s exactly where my UDR is 😂
@CaptainAndy99
@CaptainAndy99 Місяць тому
The main difference I saw was that the UCG-Ultra has dual WAN capability which is what I want but does not have the access point (which I also want). I have the original Dream Machine (non-pro). Access point sorted but no dual WAN. Sigh.
@swissfreek
@swissfreek День тому
@@CaptainAndy99 how common is dual WAN though? I mean in a home or small business setup that this seems to be aimed at. Is it a cell modem backup for flaky wired internet? Or are people carrying cable internet and fiber at the same time? In the US I just can’t think of how that would work (other than I guess backing up flaky cable internet out in the farmlands maybe) without costing a fortune and leaving one of the two services barely ever used. Like if your cable is flaky and you use a cell backup, why not just drop cable? Are there home office/small business plans that still charge by data throughput to where that unused backup might be fairly cheap as a backup but prohibitively expensive as a primary?
@SeanChYT
@SeanChYT Місяць тому
There's a huge demand for a short video that demonstrates step-by-step how to migrate from an existing old USG-3P / Cloud Key gen 1 setup to this. Well.. at least I would really like one. 🙂
@retsuin
@retsuin Місяць тому
My gen 1 USG and cloud key are now 7 years old and probably feeling their age. The power supply has died this week on the USG so I've replaced that with a cheap power supply and I've been eyeing a gen 2 cloud key plus so maybe a USG upgrade might be on the cards as well. I'm up for a layman's migration tutorial.
@RobertoCarlos-tn1iq
@RobertoCarlos-tn1iq Місяць тому
make sure CK and UCG-Ultra are on the same version. make a backup of the CK and them remove it. during the setup of the UCG-Ultra it asks if you want to restore from a backup. say yes.
@SeanChYT
@SeanChYT Місяць тому
@@RobertoCarlos-tn1iq The Cloud Key gen1 can only run version 7.2.9x, so I doubt you can do that directly. What I have done in 2 of the locations so far is to upgrade gradually via either the Windows version of the Unifi controller, or the controller running in a Docker container on Linux. I am up to version 8.0.28 now doing that.
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 Місяць тому
@@SeanChYTI upgraded from 7 on the USG to version 8 on the UCG Ultra via a backup file. It worked fine.
@SeanChYT
@SeanChYT Місяць тому
@@Yggdrasil42 Thanks for the information. I would also expect this to work, but I've heard people say many things recently, so it's great to hear from you that you had success with this. I am on vacation now anyway, and I am not sure when I will be able to obtain a UCG Ultra. Hopefully I will have a successful experience, same as you when I try it myself.
@hamidfardfard
@hamidfardfard Місяць тому
That would be a good idea to have a video about cloud gateway ultra and double wan and setting up sd-wan to improve internet speed, especially given the new technologies such as 5g home and Starlink.
@ChazmillsADLT
@ChazmillsADLT Місяць тому
So I have a question, funnily enough, does the USG now do the job of the cloud key? Can I communicate and see devices through the USG now and don’t need a separate Cloud Key . My CK is a pain in the arse as it keeps switching off (with USB power or POE). Thanks
@tysonswannell7234
@tysonswannell7234 Місяць тому
Is the lite switch just a upgraded flex or flex mini?
@fUjiMaNia
@fUjiMaNia 10 днів тому
does the 1Gbps IDS/IPS support on the UCG-Ultra also affect (improve) data throughput between devices plugged into its 4 ports or does it only improve throughput between the WAN port and its 4 ports?
@LobusFoE
@LobusFoE Місяць тому
So the cloud gateway ultra is a UDM/UDR without a built in AP?
@Cam.Klingon
@Cam.Klingon Місяць тому
Do you feel like the Dream Machine Pro is the best starting point? for wifi and security cameras? or is somethimg coming out in the lineup that I should wait?
@fonsie3029
@fonsie3029 Місяць тому
Does the Cloud Gateway Ultra have a switch on board or are these separate LAN connections? And can it do 1 Gbps up and down simultaneously?
@oryandunn
@oryandunn Місяць тому
I have a Cloud Key Gen 1 and USG-3P at my house, and a USG-3P at my parents as a second site on my CK. If I buy two of the new Ultras, could the one at my house host the network and add the one at my parents as a second site like i have now? Or would both need to be completely separate Unifi Network accounts?
@wilsonlspacheco
@wilsonlspacheco Місяць тому
I have a question... I have a cloud key plus with Unifi Ntwk controller and Protect Controller. Can I disable my Unifi Controller from Cloud Key and use only Protect? And then migrate Unifi Network Controller to this new UCG Ultra?
@GianlucaGuglielmi
@GianlucaGuglielmi Місяць тому
I'm waiting on a Dream Machine Pro but on desktop form factor. It's impossible to install the UDMP at home.
@mohdadnan19
@mohdadnan19 Місяць тому
Can we configure 802.1q (trunk) on UCG-Ultra on LAN port with third-party or any Ubiquiti switch?
@deadslayer16
@deadslayer16 Місяць тому
Does the cloud gateway ultra have poe or poe+ or use the ultra switch with 60 watts power supply to install a unifi u6-pro AP?
@marktaylor1527
@marktaylor1527 21 день тому
Alot of routers covered there! Where does the (ageing) edgerouter series sit in that list? e.g. er-x, er-4 etc. Particularly if thinking about IoT VLAN, is edgerouter still the way to go? Any improvement with these latest Unifi routers to IoT/VLAN routing capability?
@krille9033
@krille9033 Місяць тому
I've been working as an IT consultat for many many years and I'm a big fan of Ubiquiti. During many years of hoarding old Unifi products I have a pretty big setup at home (I live on a farm with wifi everywhere). I've been looking to upgrade my old USG4-pro to something more modern but I have a hard time deciding which product to choose. All of the products you talked about in this video feels too small and plasticy :) Been looking at the UXG-PRO but it is kind of expenisve, could get a Dreammache PRO SE for the same kind of money... BTW You should do a review on the UXG-PRO. Thanks for good content!
@driver288
@driver288 Місяць тому
What you got there is the updated Apple AirPort Extreme 😊. UniFi is the routers, switches and APs that is the Apple of networking.
@DudeItsDallyBoy
@DudeItsDallyBoy Місяць тому
fun fact the Express is the perfect travel router. I bought one set it up as its own router applied firewall rules and integrated it with site to site magic. Now when ever i travel i can take it with me and plug it into any Ethernet port and create my own network to phone home. Obviously you need to tune it so VPN protects all the incoming /outgoing traffic but this is simple to configure. Then when i get home from travel I just plug it into my switch and it will automatically grab updates similar to how the UDM line of products would.
@alnavasan
@alnavasan Місяць тому
Gosh, I need that cloud gateway ultra, but with Protect on it, are there any plans on it, I need it for an small install, UDR is the current option on the desk, but we all know about its performance and that it may get outdated soon
@dpasrr3319
@dpasrr3319 27 днів тому
Well done Chris almost have seen all from you. I have a question to your review - could you let me know the possible AP distance for AC Mesh, UK-Ultra and recently the Express Unit it seams that information is not of interest. To be clear i don't mean area coverage which is in every spec. but max possible distance is missing! Appreciate your experience input ! If you ask U they just avoid this information and switch to depending on site conditions which is obvious, but lets assume site conditions are same for all 3 Units.
@dc4life_956
@dc4life_956 Місяць тому
Question. I have the cloud key plus for OS and cameras but need to replace my USG. Can I use still use the key and the UCG Ultra for firewall routing only?
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 Місяць тому
I don't think so. Not sure but I think the Ultra cannot be adopted into another Controller.
@0100wouter
@0100wouter Місяць тому
Thank you for the great content, here in the Netherlands I follow your channel with great interest. but I do have question. I live in a two story house brick walls and concrete floors. at the moment I have a cloudkey 2+ with to cameras and a unifi HD upstairs and a flex HD in my living room with a 16 port unmanaged switch for my 10 wired outlets. I have a 1 gig fiber internet. what is a good choice for me? thank you in advanced
@kdeuler
@kdeuler 27 днів тому
Regarding that new switch with the poe ports: can those ports be used for Ubiquity’s access points? (Or, perhaps the access points need to be connected directly to the router?)
@sgtsavage4991
@sgtsavage4991 Місяць тому
How is the network performance from the Udr vs the ucg ultra ?
@MichaelMcMurray
@MichaelMcMurray Місяць тому
I currently run a USG and Cloud Key 2 using Protect is the USG Ultra the best option and let that run the network side and have the Cloud key 2 run protect ?
@0kk4p
@0kk4p Місяць тому
That's what I'll probably do soon. Seems the smartest way imo..
@youtubak777
@youtubak777 Місяць тому
3:00 But I presume 1 Gb/s connection will probably have a 1 Gb/s switch/GPON on the ISP's end anyway, so does it really make a difference?
@ismaeljrp1
@ismaeljrp1 Місяць тому
Glad someone else mentioned this. I’ll give crosstalk a pass as he’s a technician, not a network engineer. But it was still a made up concept. Forgot to mention, no it won’t make a difference. The purpose of the 2.5g interface is to support higher than 1g wans and prevents a wan bottleneck if the aggregate internet bound throughput on the 1g ports is above 1g.
@marshallb5210
@marshallb5210 Місяць тому
@@ismaeljrp1 AFAIK it doesn't even do >1gig between WAN and LAN, two clients doing a speedtest would get 500mb/s each at best
@MrTimmsy19
@MrTimmsy19 16 днів тому
Do you know if you are able to manage multiple WIFI sites on the controller on the Gateway Ultra? - thinking about moving over my pfsense and standalone controller but i manage mine and a family members WIFI from it
@Juanbomb24
@Juanbomb24 Місяць тому
My current home network setup is USG controlled by a CloudKey Gen2+ where I run Unifi Network and Protect from... If I upgrade the USG to the UCG-Ultra (which has built in Unifi Network) can I still run Protect (and possibly also Network) from the CloudKey? Would upgrading to UDR instead be better? I have 2 G4 bullets and 2 G4 Pros and 6 APs
@mvp_kryptonite
@mvp_kryptonite Місяць тому
That would work
@sciez22
@sciez22 Місяць тому
Man, I can't help but think that there is just a gaping hole in the market for a 2.5 GbE lineup in between this UCG-Ultra and the Dream Machine Pro. Having a faster LAN than WAN is really common and useful, especially for home and small business users with a NAS. There has got to be something in the middle between $120 plastic gigabit box and $380 active-cooling rack-mount 10 Gb metal monstrosity with integrated hard drive slot. Why should I need a damn rack in order to get a router that doesn't gimp my WiFi 6 & 7 APs made by the SAME COMPANY in terms of uplink?
@edc1569
@edc1569 Місяць тому
weird aint't it
@lordcarnorjax8599
@lordcarnorjax8599 Місяць тому
They are missing a gateway in their line up IMO. We've got the UXG-Pro and the UXG Lite. Both are good for multi site business that want to run off a single external controller. They could do a 4 port 2.5Gb gateway and call it the UXG and that would fill that segment nicely.
@dawidone
@dawidone Місяць тому
can you mix ultra line with unifi line in one installation?
@ALLIK05
@ALLIK05 Місяць тому
Great review
@flatfoot
@flatfoot Місяць тому
It's a shame that they have dropped Spanning Tree in the Ultra switch. It's there in the Lite range, but not present in the Ultra (or the flex models)
@rodneywallace4958
@rodneywallace4958 Місяць тому
There is a bug in the UDR firmware and the thing freezes often.
@arronb1
@arronb1 Місяць тому
My question to you is can i purchase UCG-Ultra as the main router then run three Unifi express as mesh access points?
@Casper76
@Casper76 25 днів тому
Do you think the Dream Router is still a good purchase? I have a site with 5 APs, max 60 clients, everything hard wired with 100 Mbit. I would have use for the Dream Router's PoE and AP, as compared to the UCG Ultra. Do I have to worry about the UDR's CPU capacity?
@kxp06
@kxp06 Місяць тому
This gateway is something i've been looking for. Now if i could only get a decently priced 2.5gbe switch to connect my PCs and NAS box together, I'd be jolly. PoE or not, doesn't matter as I have a PoE switch for those things that require it.
@koma-k
@koma-k Місяць тому
ServeTheHome has tested a whole bunch of low-cost switches, many with 2.5GbE, so if you're not *totally* wedded to Unifi there are some decent options.
@MichaelBylehn
@MichaelBylehn Місяць тому
Does Ubiquiti still do one-click connections between multiple gateways?
@cnn0888
@cnn0888 Місяць тому
Love the R2D2 stand, would you be kind enough to share it? Thanks
@MrMuckyPaws
@MrMuckyPaws Місяць тому
I currently use a USG-3P with CloudKey gen2 + for Network and Protect. Is there any reason why I could not replace the USG-3P with a Gateway Ultra (to get all of the newer features), migrate Network to it and keep Protect on the CloudKey gen2 +?
@CrosstalkSolutions
@CrosstalkSolutions Місяць тому
You could absolutely do that!
@Juanbomb24
@Juanbomb24 Місяць тому
I just posted literally the same exact question before seeing yours... i have the same exact setup. Glad to see it's possible
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie 17 днів тому
Can you do a gateway max review, specifically Smart Queue QOS throughput? It’s the first router that looks like a decent upgrade over my ER4, god rest its soul.
@zon3884
@zon3884 Місяць тому
Can you do a video of upgrading from USG with cloud key to Cloud Gateway Ultra?
@tommyrox
@tommyrox Місяць тому
Yes! I just received mine and now sure how you migrate Cloud Key Gen2 settings to the UCG Ultra. Backup and import?
@bambinu73
@bambinu73 День тому
Cloud gateway ultra came back in stock for just a couple of minutes. Five minutes after I received their email it was already out of stock. Now we will see them popping up on scalper sites with 100% or more mark-up prices. Well done fuckin Ubiquiti.
@enderst81
@enderst81 Місяць тому
If only Cloud Gateway Ultra had one poe port.
@tkt546
@tkt546 Місяць тому
Oohh wow.... a USG replacement that does 1Gbps. Would have been exciting 4 years ago, but now it's just outdated.
@juhatalimaki6664
@juhatalimaki6664 Місяць тому
Too bad most of the people doesnt think like you, then the new stuff wouldnt be sold out all the time and I could get my hands on one :)
@jimmypark7406
@jimmypark7406 Місяць тому
Your comment is irrelevant, since they’re always sold out…😂 I’ve been waiting on their new router for months…
@bleeb1347
@bleeb1347 Місяць тому
The reason they’re sold out is because they only make them in batches of like 1000 for each distributor and their own store. Of course they’re going to sell out. They create artificial demand and they get people talking about their products. They also do their “early access” program to kickstart those conversations. It’s all smart marketing,
@arnoldsmit3289
@arnoldsmit3289 Місяць тому
I agree, and even the processor of the Ubiquiti UniFi Dream Machine Pro fails short when you have an PPPoE internet connection above 3 Gb. Witch are becoming more available and is quite cheap in my country. OPNSense is still something I can't do without, Hope that Unifi will fix this.
@bmos02
@bmos02 Місяць тому
The portion of the global market (and US market) that is using > 1Gbps is miniscule. They are not the target audience for this.
@Richard_GIS
@Richard_GIS Місяць тому
The UCG has also 35 instead of 11 in 'Customize Detection Sensitivity'
@CharlieHaber
@CharlieHaber Місяць тому
Can the UCG-Ultra be adopted by another cloud controller (like Hostifi)? This way we could get better hardware than the UXG-Lite
@Bob_Smith19
@Bob_Smith19 Місяць тому
Why should I buy from a company that never has their products in stock?
@thegamefanaticshow
@thegamefanaticshow Місяць тому
I cannot wait to get my CGU! My home net is 7 Linksys MR7500 6GHz APs with 1GB symmetrical fiber the MR7500s have 2.5GB WAN that routinely tested 1200m down 1300m up went back to Ubiquity gear (AmpliFi Alien, 1G WAN) for routing and dropped to 850/800. The Linksys Hydra Pro 6E are surprisingly good 6GHz APs,especially when Linksys has em on sale at $100 each! The Linksys consumer router software is still an unusable nightmare, shockingly good radios though.
@hornetbad
@hornetbad Місяць тому
So after my purchase to the "UXG Lite" Now they announced the "UCG Ultra" !! I just need a unifi controller on my UXG Lite man like this UCG Ultra 😒😒 Although I have a unifi controller installed on the Proxmox server, it is convenient to have it inside the router , I think I made a mistake with my purchase.
@paulmiller591
@paulmiller591 Місяць тому
Great update, thanks. Some logic as to why they have a 2.5GB internet port with 1 GB user ports. It could have more to do with removing bottlenecks to provide concurrent bandwidth, not just port-specific. If I have two users wanting to pull data at a max rate that is a 2gb max impact on the gateway port.
@retartedfreak
@retartedfreak Місяць тому
That would make sense, but it is still only 1gbe to the CPU. Unless you are downloading firmware to the device itself it's literally impossible to exceed 1gb no matter what
@iankester-haney3315
@iankester-haney3315 Місяць тому
I don't understand why they keep going backwards in functionality. My USG has 2 WAN and 2 LAN ports. The UXG seems to only have 1 of each and is more expensive. All of the new switches are still Gbe and apart from the ultra lube keep reducing PoE power budget with each new generation. You'd think they could improve the existing models as they go rather than launching new lines that clutter up the overall lineup given they rarely discontinue the previous lines.
@cdarrigo
@cdarrigo Місяць тому
My udm works fine for me. I might add some poe switches at some point
@declanmcardle
@declanmcardle Місяць тому
This Cloud Gateway Ultra product seems to be so popular, it's sold out world-wide...
@harriska
@harriska Місяць тому
I just missed the UK launch yesterday, it was perfect for my use case
@madrian_hello
@madrian_hello Місяць тому
This is the successor of USG3?
@mvp_kryptonite
@mvp_kryptonite Місяць тому
@@madrian_helloif deployed at a single site, and you can not worry about the cloud key, yes I would say so
@Bob_Smith19
@Bob_Smith19 Місяць тому
Artificial scarcity. They do not produce enough to meet demand.
@grahamkatzer7332
@grahamkatzer7332 Місяць тому
All the influencers buy them up and hype them up while we wait for the next batch to be released.
@chrisumali9841
@chrisumali9841 Місяць тому
Thanks for the demo and info, the cheap price is right for me lol
@zahirkhan778
@zahirkhan778 Місяць тому
UCG Ultra is already sold out? Ubiquiti seems to have stock issues often
@newpylong
@newpylong Місяць тому
The Ultra is the product to replace the USG we've been waiting for. MULT-WAN!
@garethsnaim8174
@garethsnaim8174 Місяць тому
Og good even more products from ubiquiti, how many skus do they have now?
@ChristopherJennings0
@ChristopherJennings0 Місяць тому
The gateway ultra is definitely the best for a home network. I've got a 1gbit connection and have been using a Dream Router for a few years and found it completely disappointing, but also could not justify the cost of a Dream Machine Pro. Now reliably getting 900mbit across my whole network, even over WiFi with the U6+ and a 160mhz channel. Even without IDS/IPS, the Dream Router can even struggle to hit 500mbit. If you've got a PPPoE connection from your ISP you'll be lucky to get 300mbit....
@RobertHorvat
@RobertHorvat Місяць тому
When it will be globally available? Is good replacement for Edge Router X? How to migrate from Edge Router X and import Unifi devices - from Unifi Network Server Windows app?
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