The Wagner Group emerges & examining Russia’s defences | Ukraine: The Latest | Podcast
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Рік томуDay 258. Today, we discuss the brutal fighting in the centre of Ukraine; analyse the emergence from the shadows of Yevgeny Prigozhin and his mercenary army, the Wagner group; and Dom Nicholls takes us through the principles of a good defence as the Russian army digs-in, in the South.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). Follow David on Twitter @DjKnowles22.
Dom Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). Follow Dom on Twitter @DomNicholls.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). Follow Francis on Twitter @FrancisDearnley.
James Kilner (Foreign Correspondent). Follow James on Twitter @jkjourno.
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@Sheddweller419 Рік тому
I live in the UK and nobody I know is suffering from Ukraine fatigue, I fully back the UK'S support for the brave Ukrainian people.
@buddyrojek9417 Рік тому
I live in Australia and now it’s a national sport watching Russians get slaughtered by our weapons . Makes us proud to be descended from vikings as the Ukrainians are , destroying the Golden Horde again
@paulflinn3521 Рік тому
Am listening daily fromB.C. Canada.
@kimonopretzel3189 Рік тому
Hey man, thx for the help your state ist sending to Ukraine. We in Europe appretiate it. Let us know when your cheese and wine stock are low :D.
@ruston1200 Рік тому
Love this podcast, especially Doms sense of humour is hilarious
@peterpaul7932 Рік тому
the type of humor only a bloke with active duty record has ;)
@anya8861 Рік тому
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦🇺🇦
@stevenreiff4442 Рік тому
wow that new wagner monolith in st petersburg suspiciously sprang from zero to completion in no political time.
@Sheddweller419 Рік тому
I'm thinking these are the only people willing to guarantee putins safety.long term.
@stevenreiff4442 Рік тому
@@Sheddweller419 nah, this is the hounds of hell dawg eat dawg sickness.
@Hawk006 Рік тому
The Wagner Group is Putin’s Pretorian Guard. Should he lose them, his house of cards will collapse.
@steve-real Рік тому
Dom knows this Army stuff really well.
@JelMain Рік тому
I'm a retired crisis manager from the CFSP team. He's been playing with his toy soldiers again.
@donaldschutt2571 Рік тому
Dom knows? Hilarious. He is a lying spin doctor. Come back in 3 months and see how his BS pans out?
@steve-real Рік тому
@@donaldschutt2571 so far so good. Dom really does know his gig really well
@AliBaba-fu8oy Рік тому
Slava Ukraine from Ireland
@lw1zfog Рік тому
notsee tropes for Bandera dopes
@susannamarker2582 Рік тому
Is Ali Baba your real name ?
@kzlorenz Рік тому
Great stuff boys, as usual, thanks
@rrr9308 Рік тому
Great analysis as usual. Thanks guys. Listening from Slovakia.
@tord008 Рік тому
Brilliant, keep up the good work. Listening in from Sweden.
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
Pootin has an abysmal reputation, he’s more than finished.
@kocyszemaitis2310 Рік тому
i like pootin even better than putler.
@rosa.8578 Рік тому
At least learn to write his name correctly!
@APW554 Рік тому
@@rosa.8578 Putrid is a good fit
@boozolini4465 Рік тому
@@rosa.8578 Isn't Pootin name written correctly? I guess Poostink is written correctly, right? 😁
@michaelchampion3056 Рік тому
What is a Crime is that the Wagner Group have not been named Internationally as a Terrorist Organisation. Also that Prigozhin does not have an International arrest Warrant out in his name. Put a decent price on his head
@markb8468 Рік тому
Right. And travel ban and lock his bank accounts.
@Anita-k Рік тому
This hasn't happened yet? I'm baffled tbh.
@markb8468 Рік тому
@@Anita-k idk if it has happened. ....but it certainly should
@Anita-k Рік тому
@@markb8468 I agree.
@julilab Рік тому
From July 22: The U.S. Department of State’s Rewards for Justice (RFJ) program, administered by the Diplomatic Security Service, is offering a reward of up to $10 million for information on foreign interference in U.S. elections. The Department seeks information on Internet Research Agency LLC (“IRA”), Yevgeniy Viktorovich #Prigozhin, and linked Russian entities and associates for their engagement in U.S. election interference.
@markb8468 Рік тому
I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in one of those little concrete huts! TARGET PRACTICE!
@varjen018 Рік тому
Hold on... "Embuggarence", is that a word? Well, it is now i reckon. Good one anyway. Will try to use.
@rc666 Рік тому
Is there anyone in doubt that we need to fight for our democracy, UA should not be fighting alone.
@JelMain Рік тому
Getting 28 European Nations to take Moscow down simply isn't going to happen. The best option is to facilitate the population recovering control of its own land. Eastern Europe has some serious scores to settle, though.
@SteveWallis2 Рік тому
Excellent discussion
@airmcd86 Рік тому
The US elections will not materially affect the US support for Ukraine.
@athanksgivingbaby570 Рік тому
True. Beau of the Fifth Column has a good breakdown on this.
@roaminromer Рік тому
Funny how those who didnt support Ukraine lost elections. Guess that "interference" didnt work.
@billbasener8784 Рік тому
This is a great source of news. Thanks guys.
@yolandacarrillo3681 Рік тому
🇺🇦 Viva Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥
@gabrielmcollazo6675 Рік тому
Ukraine : The mouse that Roared! Viva Ukraine for ever!😉
@skevosmavros Рік тому
40:35 Although he initially misstated it, as acronyms go MADROD is not bad! MADROD Mutual support All round defence Deception Reserves Offensive spirit Depth
@ThePlatypusMafia Рік тому
SLAVIA UKRAINE 🇺🇦 ♥️
@therealorkdung Рік тому
Yes, please do Offense!
@john_in_phoenix Рік тому
Technically, the Maginot line worked very well, that's why Germany went around it.
@harrycarpenter1727 Рік тому
Actually their paratroopers went over and captured it
@tromboneJTS Рік тому
At 9:26 This is a genius decision!!!
@AnthonyConstable Рік тому
Incredible, as always. Thanks for keeping this going.
@AnthonyConstable Рік тому
From Budapest
@noras3297 Рік тому
💙💛🇺🇦🇺🇸🇺🇦🇺🇸🇺🇦💙💛
@2358nick Рік тому
Excellent podcast. Everyone involved working to produce top quality political and military analysis.
@anabelpineda9976 Рік тому
Republican is just telling people what people want to hear Republican know why can happen if Russia take over Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇸🇩🇴❤️☮️🙏
@yvelaine Рік тому
i would ignore kherson . go round it . stay mobile .
@kbkb1290 Рік тому
Victoire Ukraine
@positroll7870 Рік тому
Meh. FRA is ramping up its military support. So is Italy, despite electing a right wing gov. And while GER has done more than these 2, it still is only beginning to dig deeper. Europe simply dwarves Russia on an economic level. Even fatigued support will suffice to beat a horrible RUS army. EUR gas reserves are filling up, gas prices are falling, and Russia's economy is more and more crippled. Putin is chasing a phantom.
@timothykatende8484 Рік тому
If that was the case tell is what the cost of bread is today to what it was 9 months back
@josephfisher6745 Рік тому
@@timothykatende8484 man does not live by bread alone
@positroll7870 Рік тому
@@timothykatende8484 because oil and gas prices went up a lot over summer and affected costs for farmers a lot. Same with fertilizers. Farmers need to recuperate these costs by selling produce at a higher price because the already spent money doesn't magically come back just because gas prices came down again.
@listrahtes Рік тому
Honestly without controlling the logistics up to the frontline this support doesnt mean that uch. Ukraine is incredible corrupt and a LOT of gear gets stolen before it reaches the soldiers. I only see the solution that European countries control the logistics inside Ukraine. Dont underestimate the corruption. Before the war Ukraine was worldwide leading in corruption. Thats not easy. The army has a lot of bad apples as does the Ukrainan government. Lets actually learn a lesson from Afghanistan.
@positroll7870 Рік тому
@@listrahtes Stupid narrative pushed by the much more corrupt Russians and their Murican stooges like Tucker the Traitor Carlson. Including rumors of Himars being sold off. Of course Russia claims to have destroyed all Himars 3 times over, so we know what their silly claims are worth. Ukr is fighting for its live, and most of its citizens have bought in, bringing very negative consequences to anyone trying to steal. Are some people still siphoning off some fuel? Sure. But who would they 155mm ammo to? The Nato countries that deliver them? Lol. Anyone wants receipts? go check out the Oryx blog. More than 1500 visually confirmed losses of Russian tanks alone... For a fraction of the yearly us defense budget. Best investment ever.
@steveellis7748 Рік тому
According to James if Prigozhin says it we should all believe it
@stpancraschapel2136 Рік тому
This struck me too. Why are we attributing any credibility about some purported smoking gun of US politics to a man who would clearly sell his own soul for any cause whatever? Even by the standards of Russian political operators he is untrustworthy.
@jayejulia1677 Рік тому
I have felt uncomfortable in the last two broadcasts in that we seem to be telling Russia how to fight in this war. First by telling them to use their aircraft assets and now how not to make a defensive line..
@matthewrussell8590 Рік тому
Ridiculous comment
@DriveByShouting Рік тому
No Self Respecting Russian is capable of putting aside his Pride and accept any-kind of advice from the UK or US.
@APW554 Рік тому
No need to worry Russia is beyond help ,as seen by their travelling circus so far…..
@stpancraschapel2136 Рік тому
This occurred to me too, it reminded me of the BBC reporting on Goose Green and the Iranian embassy siege. Happily, I suspect the Russian military is so compromised by its own structural inadequacies and corruption, there is little that can improve its performance now or for many years to come.
@fernandapereiragaetani9509 Рік тому
🇺🇦
@richardmulcahy1535 Рік тому
I agree with the writer "Dom's sense of humor is hilarious" I find it, Mr. Nicholls, subtle, dry, dark, 'bendy'. In a way, classic Bond, Dom.
@BalbazaktheGreat Рік тому
They allowing comments now? Good work, guys. I never miss an episode.
@yvelaine Рік тому
Putin must get out of Ukraine ... then Peace can be had .
@chueewowee Рік тому
BTW, the mobilisation is for reservist, not for all men.
@greggsarah Рік тому
Thanks guys but ads every 3 minutes is a bit much
@firstlast7052 Рік тому
44:35 "examples of defences done well". An obvious example of the successfull use of field fortifications in depth in a Russian oblast adjacent Ukraine was in battle of Kursk (1943). In this battle the Soviet Union used a combination of field works (entrenchments), stretching back many miles to the rear of their front lines, and mobile reserves to defeat a very strong German attack. Lines of defence across in Italy, slowed the Western Allied advance to a crawl in 1944. While not stopping the advance it certainly turned the soft underbelly of the crocodile into a well made handbag who's lock proved difficult to pick. Likewise although strategically ineffective the German lines on the Seelow Heights in April 1945, cost the Soviets a butchers bill that Western Allied armies would have hesitated to pay.
@firstlast7052 Рік тому
Pillbox for concrete fortifications started as a slang term by the British for small concrete German blockhouses and bunkers used in the Hindenburg line in the First World War. It makes sense to use prefabricated pillboxes and bunkers as part of entrenchements, but to be effective they have to be dug in and camouflaged. If they are they are stronger and more inhabitable than similar structures built from logs and sandbags. There are still lots of Second World War concrete pillboxes scattered across south England. All that remain of defensive lines set up in the dark desperate days after Dunkirk.
@alejandromacias7609 Рік тому
An absolutely astonishingly quality informative educational thought provoking journalistic podcast episode.
@user-jl8io3ik5y Рік тому
In the intro, lizz truss has now been replaced. Ha. Was wondering how long the intro would get with all these pms
@magesalmanac6424 Рік тому
Right 😁 although the one they replaced it with isn’t nearly as impactful . They could have found something more dramatic
@vincenthigginbotham8729 Рік тому
At least the west can change their prime ministers unlike Russia
@wacojones8062 Рік тому
One of the best defensive actions followed by a massive counterattack drive to the west was by the Russians at Kursk. Urban grinding defense was Stalingrad.
@xy6845 Рік тому
What if Putin would bring Prigozhin into position as his possible successor? I think I recall reading sth recently about him looking to find sb to fill in that role, not sure about it. Could that be a real thing and what's anyone's opinions on that?
@canadiangemstones7636 Рік тому
Putler thinks he is Tsar for life. Potential successors drink polonium tea, or fall off balconies, lol.
@listrahtes Рік тому
Imo the moment Prigoshin gets identified as a real powerhouse and possible successor to Putin he looses all power if Putin is not dead before. Thats classic russian politics. Prigoshin would do Russia just as much harm. He is also ideology lead like Putin and not by reality. He is even more open to sacrificing soldiers mindlessly just to be the agressor and has no competence other than agression. The war would be even more cruel but not more possible to be won by Russia.
@redwine2664 Рік тому
I stopped hearing their toilets being flashed. The pumps stopped working or there is no water in the pipes.
@kenrauter Рік тому
From about minute 34, when Dom starts taking about the Dragons Teeth. From what I can see, the birm of the tank ditch is between the Russian trenches and the Dragons Teeth! So the Dragons Teeth can't be seen from the trenches! 😒
@chillijoe8264 Рік тому
personally im very very skeptical of any statement made by the wagner group.
@OceansHi1 Рік тому
Really liked the concern expressed for the souls stolen by Putin and Russia.
@MICHAELQUINN-gj7nj Рік тому
Not exactly the same but the Wagner Group/Prigozhin reminds me of the SS/Himmler.
@stevenmillikin558 Рік тому
Admitted or claimed he meddled in U.S. elections?
@shanewilson2484 Рік тому
Defensive battle - Stalingrad
@Taketaketak Рік тому
❤
@carolmiller5713 Рік тому
I doubt it's "Ukraine fatigue". Most countries simply can't afford no oil during winter, no grain shipped to Africa and collapse of economies.
@tintinjailhouse1312 Рік тому
Will they sooo use hands to fight with or how?!! Bros ?!!
@sumiland6445 Рік тому
British trained Ukrainian Forces in hand-to-hand combat including EYE GOUGING 😮
@tintinjailhouse1312 Рік тому
@@sumiland6445 heheh aint it Nice bro ?
@knoxbfly Рік тому
Russian Defense In Depth was very well done at Kursk....not far from the current battle space....
@billbasener8784 Рік тому
The political right in the US is more hawkish than the left on military.. A shift right in the US would be unlikely decrease funding for Ukraine.
@stephendavis6066 Рік тому
Your generalization is out of date. Several Trump endorsed candidates expressed tacit support of Putin against aid to UA...the references are to an old hop that no longer exists...it is all the party of trump...
@billbasener8784 Рік тому
@@stephendavis6066 i rest this channel too much to debate politics, but I appreciate your points. Here in the US I see pretty much universal support of Ukraine.
@Dadopersoblueboots Рік тому
Podcast is great.
@gabrielmcollazo6675 Рік тому
Ukraine : The Mouse that roared! How about those Shenanigans PUTIN?
@chrisminchin854 Рік тому
👍
@Skinny79 Рік тому
0:25 is that Bald and Bankrupt??
@RejectedStoner Рік тому
I think Ukraine regaining Kherson and the Dnipra River is a good start point for negotiations. I honestly believe that's why Russia may be pulling out
@Reticulosis Рік тому
Only the Brit’s would come up with an acronym like MADROD😂
@jameskim6154 Рік тому
Just an observation. A significant part of audience comes from countries outside the UK and quite a number of your speakers show poor presentation with stuttering or lots of a.. um….. It seems that either because of poor quality of their speaking abilities or unprepared speech . It reflects the interruptions of flow of thought and the audience is really struggling to understand the content of these speakers. It would be helpful that they can speak clearly and in a smooth way so people an understand what they talk about. Notwithstanding the British accent itself is already tough to listen to.
@thetruth9874 Рік тому
The idea that political change will help Russia is laughable. The war in Ukraine is a contributing factor to the cost of living crisis, but by no means the only one. If the war goes away the crisis will remain. The opposition in countries will use the war for their political gain, but they have no interest in stopping the support. The worse thing a political party could do is cosy up to Putin to stop the war, but the cost of living crisis remains. They know this.
@Luna_lama Рік тому
Too many ads on this video
@alanchristensen5735 Рік тому
Excellent reporting as always. Dom's dry wit adds a bit of colour
@012141005 Рік тому
When will Bakhmut fall?
@gerg5555 Рік тому
Keep trying to work him into that into guys. One day he will say something with gravitas.
@20ZZ20 Рік тому
I think the expectation with Wagner prisoner recruits is that they will not survive anyway to be pardoned and are probably sent directly to the front line
@righteousbyfaithinChrist Рік тому
The Wagner group...still going to lose. John 1:1-5 [1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2]He was in the beginning with God. [3]All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. [4]In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. [5]The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. The Witness John
@williamswenson5315 Рік тому
Is anyone else irritated to the point of distraction by the speaking style of Mr. Kilner? It hardly equates in importance with content, but the program is a podcast and it's impossible to ignore. Perhaps the gentleman is better suited to print media. His incessant lip smacking while speaking is difficult to disregard.
@tomg3290 Рік тому
He needs a silk screen - to blunt his poping of "p" s.. and blend his "s"s...
@laurie9557 Рік тому
No, his speaking style does not bother me at all.
@philrowell1251 Рік тому
No
@evadueck643 Рік тому
Content is what count’s. And they are excellent at it. Don’t focus on trivial matters.
@yolandacarrillo3681 Рік тому
I like the way he talks.
@williamwells1862 Рік тому
How did Putin have his mother taken out????? Speak.
@susannamarker2582 Рік тому
It's 'isolationist', not 'isolationalist'.
@vespasiancloscan7077 Рік тому
nope
@righteousbyfaithinChrist Рік тому
I agree, why have they not been identified as terrirists.
@elenafurs1898 Рік тому
Вы закрыли комментарии к видео с русским солдатом, потому что страшно стало?))) Но правду вы не закроете.
@morvil73 Рік тому
Everybody… “exetra”? or “et cetera”?
@lunafields788 Рік тому
Et cetera
@AndreAndFriends Рік тому
18:07
@PaulKRedd Рік тому
Listening from near Portland, USA Not tired of the story. Yes, tired of paying for the war as a US taxpayer. The European members of NATO for decades have underfunded their own defense. I don't understand why the USA should bear the burden of defending borders of countries most Americans can't find on a map. It's not an alliance as much as it is a dependency. Good Podcast, thanks.
@timothykatende8484 Рік тому
Thanks for that feedback
@r5u26d3 Рік тому
Dead right. The EU has tried to sideline the US in trade but all of its members depend on the Us for its security. Shameless group of countries. Trump brought this to everyone’s attention and was met with embarrassed sniggering.
@shawnbooth3696 Рік тому
Apparently, as a percentage of the defense budget, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are paying a lot more. The important thing is basically everyone is chipping in to defeat the aggressor.
@jimgraham6722 Рік тому
US weapons industry will do very well out of this war. Lots of profits, lots of jobs. US will pay for its involvement in the same way it paid for Iraq and Afghanistan (both wars with far less justification), borrow the money from China.
@magesalmanac6424 Рік тому
Your reasoning for why we shouldn’t fund Ukraine is because “most Americans can’t find it on a map”? Wtf kind of standard is that 😂
@patrickchapman5133 Рік тому
James needs to clean up his diction
@andrewmays3988 Рік тому
Please stop giving unverifiable numbers!!🤔
@David-fj5lz Рік тому
These were the ones who were executed probably
@rosiewessinger5868 Рік тому
🇺🇦💙🇺🇦💙🇺🇦💪🇺🇦💪🇺🇦
@tintinjailhouse1312 Рік тому
And its 30 secs ago !
@desdicadodog8452 Рік тому
Kherson is A Trap
@buddyrojek9417 Рік тому
Like the British the accents are easily picked up by Ukrainian people so they should filter the civilians and cordon off the city
@stephenbest4924 Рік тому
There is no critical insight or balance here. It is propaganda, not journalism. I won't be back.
@mohanrao846 Рік тому
Mistake add guy ? Mistake to be in media.
@nashslifestory2188 Рік тому
so its all going so well for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and ukraine, be in Moscow by christmas, and in Beijing by new year...... hang on a mo, it say's in this book here that war is a bad thing, yet the sun say's its great, wonder what the truth is..........
@elenafurs1898 Рік тому
From Russia with❤
@realRainz Рік тому
"Russian Theftderation"
@user-hv9vn4fi4w Рік тому
USA GO AWAY FROM HAITI
@viatranquilla Рік тому
Putin's war, come again..? This whole thin began in 2014, did it not..? See what happens when a funny man is chosen to be president..? lol..
@veronicalogotheti5416 Рік тому
is not what republicans are saying
@zabolegp Рік тому
Сила в правде. РФ закончит и эту войну.
@vadimvictor3382 Рік тому
Russia will end the war by leaving Ukraine. It's as simple as that.
@ThBlckMrk Рік тому
Nothing but adverts omg
@guythomas7051 Рік тому
use adblock for YT -- add it as an "add-on" in browser.
@richardtrott7969 Рік тому
Keep kissing your teeth won't listen really annoying
@spetsnazrs9102 Рік тому
Russia Vitoria
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
Might have been if they were any good. But sadly ruZZia is a very disgraced country right now, all pootins doing.
@Bonjour-World Рік тому
A Russian victory is Putin and Prigozhin being prosecuted, convicted and executed for War Crimes.
@SL-sd3sg Рік тому
@@Bonjour-World Absolutely. For an unjust invasion, and all of the loving people of the world knowing it.
@CollectiveWesterner Рік тому
🪦 Russia 💀 has 💀 no 💀 future 🪦
@tomg3290 Рік тому
Russia ist kaputski !
@lampegutt123 Рік тому
Ukraine isn’t more important than any other nation. If Cuba was being invaded by the US, we would be hearing of how me must support the freeing and democratisation of Cuba
@leefulll7145 Рік тому
But we arnt because it didnt happen did it... talk is one thing doing is another..
@CollectiveWesterner Рік тому
What about. What about. What about. Pathetic.
@dearmas9068 Рік тому
What?.. What is this comment? What twisted and childish logic is this?
@tomg3290 Рік тому
Yes , invade Cuba too !
@laurie9557 Рік тому
Read the Budapest Memorandum. We are obligated to help Ukraine because we talked them into giving up their nuclear weapons and promised to defend them. By providing them weapons but no direct support, we are only partially fulfilling our promise.
@mosibru7709 Рік тому
Nice 🇺🇦🇺🇲🇮🇳
@Iammarkessex Рік тому
Don't hear females complaining about sexist conscription laws against men in Russia and Ukraine 🤔
@magesalmanac6424 Рік тому
Dumbest comment so far.
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