NY auto show is a hell of a time for foreign manufacturers to bring stuff over

No one asked, never comment again. Or else.

@@GardenGuy1943 No u

@@GardenGuy1943 What kind of loser actually talks like this

@@GardenGuy1943 😂

Looks cool. But I bet efficiency would be improved if they made it lighter. Range isn’t everything.

My 2013 civic has 3 colors sort of depicting the fuel efficiency, ranging from green to dark blue. I love trying to keep it at green all the time. I would very much like efficiency features on cars

@@enigmabey G1 2000 Honda Insight has charge bar indicator and mpg indicator as a bar... it makes driving *very* gamified. If you don't pay any attention at all you'll be around 60-65mpg... but if you do you can get up around 70-75 under the right conditions or more.

It would be a sticker

True, but it is necessary The one on the back is basically negligible, and that's what's required most places The one in the front would create a lot of vortexes and probably would make a difference of 1-5 miles per charge (rough estimate, you would need to do a proper simulation)

​@@ab3040 spoken like a true american... "Most places". That mercedes comes from germany and like in most places on earth, in germany you need a licence plate on the front. Don't talk about some states in the us like they're the world.

@@TheBurnout96 america is only country ok

@@TheBurnout96 most of the US requires front plates too

check out aptera

prius says hello

@@bradhaines3142 prious is hybrid not electric,at least not yet.

@@BenzGuy63 Prius has a battery to work with the engine to produce more power while efficiency on fuel at the same time so technically it's a electric vehicle just not a FULL ELECTRIC vehicles. The Prius Prime even has a bigger battery so you can run entirely on electric at over 25 miles so what are you trying to argue here bud?

Aptera is gonna run the game. Best model of efficiency out of them all.

Completely agree Aptera has a much better drag coefficient. Hopefully @mkbhd will make a future video on @apteramotors "the most efficient production vehicle" on @autofocus

its not even really a car, it's a tricycle so I'm guessing it doesn't have to adhere to the same regulations as real cars.

aston martin DB6 ?

@@fabricepestel734 yeah, but also cars like the Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso

I'm thinking more Porsche 917LH vibes with the very low front, and beatilfully swooping tail (not the famous 917K, but the long-tailed version).

I was just thinking it looks like what people in the 50s thought cars would look like today

The EQS looks much better.

You can buy Ioniq 6 or EV6 with similar aerodynamics and look. Granted Hyundai and Kia are not Mercedes but, at least more people can afford the Hyundai and Kia models.

@@StephenShawCanada I think this Mercedes tec will eventually trickle down to a and c class vehicles too. They are in this transition period where eqs and eqe look exactly the same but use aerodynamics a lot.

Finally, a Mercedes one can love! ✌️🖖

I don't wanna be the party pooper, but don't put too much hope into start-ups 😅

Km. Marquez said this Mercedes EV concept reaches 1000 km of range which is a little over 600 miles.

Is he in the EU? Didn't think Canadian geese made it that far.

In what coding?

@@palimondo Roman numbers

If you write XX it's actually 20 and not 1010

@@sports2hedz542 I think they just brought the car to the US.

it’s also not a crossover Suv

@@nicholasrucinski1651 yeh but new American " sedan" are now cross over suvs For example toyata crown 2022

@@fbyi2940 the Crown has had 15 generations of design in Japan until this 16th which is its first appearance in the U.S. and you call it an American sedan? 😂😂😁

Nothing the average person could afford, I guarantee you that.

it's a fking Mercedes and and EV at that. Wanna bet the price would be 6 figures at least?

Probably similar to the EQS

I think I read it’s estimated to be £100,000-120,000 if they mass produced it

@@JohnAndJaneDoe65 some technical info wasn't said in this video...f.e. its battery pack is completely surrounded by a full carbon fiber housing, engineered and manufactured by Mercedes Formula 1 division. There battery cells are far more dense than the ones on the EQS, hence why they could fit 100kwh in such a "small" car. Let alone the carbon fiber chassis you'd find in something like a Lambo. This car would be far more expensive than a EQS if they mass produced it. In fact they wouldn't be able to mass produce it, only sell it like a sports car in limited numbers per year.

Only comfort and visibility so its definitely not a daily driver.

@@NotSadAwesomeInstead You must be the test driver of that thing to make such informed statements.

Only thing I don't really like is the long rear but yeah, it doesn't look bad.

I haven't seen a exotic gun comment in years 🤣

Agreed. Hopefully @mkbhd will make a future video of @apteramotors on @autofocus - the most efficient production vehicle

it's a scam like nikola motors.

Was really hoping this was the Aptera

@@packetauditor Me too!

Is the Aptera ever going to actually release?

Seems likely that the 140kph limit is also implemented because that shape OBVIOUSLY creates a lot of lift and not because of efficiency - even Germans are able to NOT drive as fast as possible on the Autobahn. The artificial limits manufacturers (basically except for Tesla, even Porsche does it on the Taycan) set are almost like they assume their buyers aren't smart enough to grasp the impact of speed on consumption..

@@NO3V German automakers like Mercedes and Porsche especially Mercedes are known for prioritizing the safety of their cars and being innovative when it comes to safety features and features in general so I think they were probably just crossing their T’s and dotting their I’s by choosing to limit the speed to that

Finally, a Mercedes one can love! ✌️🖖

You do realize that they have been putting the science or aerodynamics of planes into cars since the inception of planes? That's such a peculiar comment.

@@alexandrep4913 I do realize this but how many cars are you aware of essentially have an “airspeed” indicator to tell the vehicle the actually speed of the air contacting the vehicle. My comment was simply an observation suggesting this vehicle took it a step further then most.

@@jamesfynnhere6983 Exactly this.

They wouldn't push for efficiency if you wouldn't need that to create a USP and make money. Same goes for every car manufacturer :)

All car companies care about its profits, public transport is the solution for all the problems electric cars are trying to solve.

Of course, they have had a 100 years to try and test their technologies, while Tesla is like what? 12 years old? I don't see Tesla surviving in another 10-20 years especially as others ramp up their electric vehicle tech

@@bsame I’m not so convinced, they’re way too deep with their noses in big oil. If China is not messing things up with their neo-imperialism attitude, they will steamroll most of the legacy carmakers. I guess Mercedes, BMW and Audi will make nice sub brands in a BYD company portfolio… 😢

I agree, except the Aptera is not really a car, but a tricycle. That means it doesn't have to adhere to the same regulations, if it did it would probably be less efficient than it is. It could still be more efficient than the Mercedes

Aptera is not a car. It's half the vehicle of this. There is no 1,000 mile Aptera. This car is getting just under 6 miles/kWh but it's a huge battery. 6-8 for Aptera is a good guess.

Yeah, He made a small mistake I believe with the video saying this is the car with the lowest drag co-efficient, and the aptera has a lower co-efficient. This car is 0.17, the aptera is 0.13.

I can not wait for my Aptera.

​@@dew5090on the wait-list too. I keep asking for a review of Aptera on this channel.

.13 not .15!

No offence to Mercedes and I'm glad to see other automakers really push for efficiency, but I'm definitely more excited to see where the Aptera goes. I'm a little tired of expensive luxury cars getting all the attention and smaller economy cars getting overlooked. I hope to here reviews from people like you guys in the coming years to see how Apteras run.

So excited for the Aptera. I would love @mkbhd to do a review on them. .13 drag coeficient and affordable!

Completely agree although I believe it has a drag coefficient of 0.13 not 0.15. I am a reservation holder and hope to see @Apteramotors on @autofocus in the near future.

@@NYCCEJ yeah... Aptera is not a car... is a bike with something on top of it. 🤣🤣

@@johnsmith-cw3wo 🤣🤣 while it has only 3 wheels and is a 2 seater, it is larger than some cars and certainly has more storage space.

@@NYCCEJ those ''some cars'' are not real cars either. 😁😁

Do we really need this level of efficiency? I would say if we can get 1000 km with better battery technology but at the current model 3/y efficiency I think we are good.

@@alexandruilea915 It's up to the consumer to decide what they want, if this vehicle is put into production and sells like hot cakes, they have made a decision. This explores the balancing act between efficiencies / usability / comfort / luxury etc.

@@alexandruilea915 "Fuel is plentiful. who cares about efficiency?" is exactly how humanity got itself into its current mess.

Is it a benchmark? How big is the battery?

@@billbreyer8269 100 kWh

*will be the most efficient. They're close to getting their first production intent together and will ship by the end of the year.

100% agree and hopefully @mkbhd will make a future video about @apteramotors on @autofocus

Agreed.

I thought this was going to be about Aptera and was disappointed.

Yeah, he's mistaken, the aptera is more efficient. Maybe he isn't aware of aptera or not considering it because it's a 3 wheeler. Either way, should have mentioned it.

I really hope he checks out Aptera! He should love what they are doing different from what's currently available on the market.

​@@madwatchstudios the Aptera has 2 seats and 3 wheels. It's not in the same league as this mercedes.

-Elon- Tesla will crush all the German cars in Europe. 💪💪

Aptera has a drag coefficient of 0.13 much less than the EQXX. @mkbhd please do a video of @apteramotors on @autofocus

They might’ve helped them design or maybe they just intentionally took inspiration from them because for the past 4 or 5 years mercedes has been supplying their models engines and had ownership in their company

10000000% agree! Super Stoked for the Aptera

I'm hoping the company doesn't die again. And I'm sure not risking any money on it before it's actually in production.

Lol literally, the aptera has been in development for 20 years. Already hyped the car time ago before they disappeared. Not hyping this car until it’s actually on the road

Agreed.

Yes, @mkbhd please cover @apteramotors

Hopefully he checks them out.

Aptera...we will see. Marques mentioned why, unless you live in Saudi Arabia, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I hope it works but I'm not sold...living in PNW.

​@@sports2hedz542 the solar thing is only a secondary feature the main point is that it it so light and efficient that even if solar does nothing it is super cheap to drive

Solar power is a gimmick. The car is very nice but you have to leave the car under hot Californian sun for a day to charge 40 miles.

@@asicdathens in a day the average person drives 20 miles. In uk you get I think it’s 39 a day. That means no charging. That’s not a gimmick.

Or just eliminate it. A lot of states do not require it.

Hopefully @mkbhd will do an indepth video review of @apteramotors on @autofocus in the near future.

$25k really?

@@inquisitvem6723 yes, the starting spec for 250 mi version is 25k

Lol they told that 10 years ago when they announced the car already, not happening anytime soon

@@jayhjoon I just saw it, but I’m not sure I want to drive that on the highway. What I am looking forward to is the Sony/Honda EV coming out in 2026. The Afeela . I also heard that Amazon will be making an EV.

the ev6 has a somewhat similar rear too, albeit on a crossover

Also the speedtail has a better drag coefficient of 0.16

@@johannesssssssss no it doesn’t. It’s .26

The thing is the channel still can be nearly iPhone only with just a small mic attached to the iPhone

Or people could just stop acting like raw iphone recordings are professional quality.

I just want A car

How do you feel about the “cars” that are essentially drones? I think that’s the closest we’ll get once the battery tech gets to where it needs to be.

Xpeng is making one, right?

Idiots in cars are already terrible. You want to make it worse?

*No, you want an Aptera...*

Aptera’a highest config has 1,000 MILES, not just 1,000km. Those three wheels are preventing it from being called a “car” but it’ll still be the most efficient “vehicle”

​@@CharliePryoryes, and hopefully with all our comments @autofocus will take a serious look at @apteramotors

@@NYCCEJ I’m really surprised at Marques’ take on solar. It’s as if he’s not experienced the amount of power that can be generated by them. My home is fully powered even on cloudy days. I think he discounts their value on a car too greatly

I agree with you about the Aptera, hopefully in the future @mkbhd will cover @apteramotors in a future video on @autofocus as it is the world's most efficient production vehicle (maybe not car as it's 3 wheeled) with a drag efficiency of 0.13 which will give you 30-40 miles of solar range.

It would be super cool if they did a "build your car" on their website where we can see the exact tradeoff in range and selling price when picking different interior (should be pretty simple as its just weight and watts determined). I'd like to see how much it would affect range to get climate control, luxury seats, half the size of the screen, no solar-panels, proper door-handles etc Also, they would get valuable data from their customers I guess. Win WIn!

@@thoughtsofapeer Tesla does something like that now. You change the default wheels and it updates the estimated range - along with other options that might impact the range.

❤ @apteramotors ❤ When will @MKBHD cover the Aptera on @autofocus?

Eh, not necessarily. EVs are a mild improvement over cars with gasoline engines, but in terms of the big picture, we just need to drive less cars altogether. With an efficient EV that you charge from a completely "green" source of electricity (an extremely generous, unrealistic assumption), you're going to be saving maybe 50% of the carbon emissions throughout the lifetime of the car. If you didn't own the car at all, you'd be saving 100% of the emissions. If you live in a place like India, where most electricity comes from burning coal, you're actually causing more net emissions by using an EV. And I'm not even touching on other issues with Lithium mining (the ones not related to emissions). If you absolutely *need* to buy a new car, and you live in a country that produces at least a good portion of its electricity from green sources, then sure, go with an EV. But ideal would be to reduce your driving as much as possible. Sadly not realistic for many people, given the infrastructure of some countries.

@@taylankammer whilst I agree that less cars are necessary, an EV powered by coal is still better than an ICE car.

@@matthewdilks2677 from a co2 emissions perspective maybe not. From a city pollution it's definitely better to drive an EV.

@@alexandruilea915 I believe last I saw the numbers, an EV powered entirely off a 100% 'dirty' grid is still emitting less co2 overall than a gasoline-powered car (presumably comparing like-for-like, not Prius vs Hummer EV). The big difference-maker is the efficiency of a large-scale power plant burning fossil fuel for electricity vs the efficiency of a small internal combustion engine. You're losing a LOT of energy as waste heat in an ICE vehicle; not nearly as much goes to actually spinning tires and moving the vehicle around. An EV's losses come from losses at the source (a large power plant is making much better use of the energy from burning fuel), from transmission lines, charging and friction. Surprisingly little is lost in transition once the electricity is generated. EVs also recapture energy lost to braking (which, to be fair, is something hybrids do as well), which is another source a pure ICE vehicle is just turning to heat and letting go. Not that any of it makes a substantial enough difference to change much on its own. Taylan is on the right track - when it comes to efficiency, finding a marginally better way to move our air conditioned living rooms on wheels to and from anywhere we want isn't exactly a winning strategy when it comes to slowing climate change. We do need better vehicle options for the situations where they're needed, but the core of the emissions problem is solved by large-scale changes on a more fundamental level. We should never have allowed our entire society to be built on this idea that the car is the center of everything. That most places have streets and parking lots within a 10 second walk of the front door is a "convenience" bought by massive subsidy and abject loss of all personal choice and options when it comes to how we move around in our everyday lives. Public transit and biking/pedestrian infrastructure should be everywhere, clean and well kept so people want to use it, convenient to the point where doing anything else to get around only makes sense in unusual or exceptional circumstances. And the question for "how do we pay for it" is one that should *currently* be pointed at the roads and parking lots we've built over all the land that could have been generating tax revenue and uplifting communities instead. People need to understand that all these scary-sounding things don't mean leaving behind the freedom or lifestyle we prefer. What's truly unacceptable is just how absolutely *required* car ownership is, no matter where you live. Very few places in America you can consider cars 'optional', and the pitfalls of that are felt at all levels of life. We're just so used to living with it that nobody cares to question whether things could be better. Just something to think about next time you're traffic.

@@MaskedMammal I know what you mean but you can't compare burning coal with burning gasoline from a pollution standpoint as coal is way worse then gasoline.

What makes you think this will reach production? Genuine question btw.

You beat me to it. I was coming to comment that exact thing. Technically and legally, in the US, the Aptera is not a car, so this Merc still wins when we consider cars. The Aptera is an autocycle, which is like a motor-cycle/car thing. I want one, but I won't be the first person to put down $40K for the long range version. Hopefully, there's a 100K people with enough disposable income to do it first so I know it works before I put down my money.

Fingers crossed they make it to production! Really looking forward to SEVs

@@N1rOx why not? They have suppliers set up and are very close to their funding goal. If Faraday Future can make it to production Patera definitely can.

@@dominicbendinelli4805 Sorry, I was meaning the Mercedes. I don't know anything about the other car.

Not a good design though, having holes in the car is just begging for stuff to fall down there.

@@leonro would be ideal if there's a removable tray beneath it. Just shove all crumbs and other garbage into the mesh and empty the tray once a year. :)

I like the outside, but man the inside is great looking too.

Public transport and trains beat the efficiency of this car many times over.

@@2rooms19 I am on r/fuckcars and hate our reliance on cars, so you don’t have to remind me, trust me lol public transit and walkability are the goal, EVs are a bandaid for a gushing wound

@@august1870 🙏

Drive the Aptera a thousand km without stopping then we will talk.

Hopefully we will see @apteramotors covered on @autofocus in the future.

@mkbhd please do a video on @apteramotors on @autofocus

Come on Man it's ugly ant 🐜😂

Actually they have 0.13

Completely agree, although I believe the drag coefficient is 0.13, we should continue to ask for an Aptera review on this channel. I think Marques would prefer to review the final production ready vehicle, although the @jerryrigeverything video of the Aptera models was amazing and certainly expanded the reach of Aptera in the UKposts Community.

It helps that M is the world’s most influential tech reviewer 😎