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YOU AI YOUI LOOSE CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE!!)

React 20 will have an integrated AI in the compiler 😂

day 0 of AI joke comment

​@@tobyboulton8340 *plays numa numa but with only vowels*

- average fireship viewer

It's OK you'll get there! Just make one custom app from scratch

do not ask,just add it into your resume 😂

i wish i could understand

​@@odddellarobbia4💀

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@@PWRGEUTTP is it?

you would think correct, but no, they have to keep inventing more stuff like React Query....just to keep you on your toes;

yes that great, because these were kinda only hard places in React

as much as I love svelte. Marketshare...

With all of these incredible new changes to React, they hope to make the framework half as good as Svelte by 2060

​@@s1nistr433which major companies are using svelte? I've seen and used react almost everywhere

ffs on a deja commencé notre projet transverse en react 😀🔫

@@s1nistr433cope, nothing beats jsx

Lol

Missed this!

Haha I was tripping 😂

pin this

Heart React JS

I think you can still say jQuery is ridiculously popular based on the number of sites running it

Honestly, jQuery’s simplicity is still charming, it’s still a fun library to use, just outdated for most projects.

real devs use Jquery

John resig is genius guy, 2006 until now jquery still works a charm and simplified, if people just know how structure it nicely.. Unlike the over bloated frameworks nowadays, particularly react

I will say though, nowadays I find it complicated to write a whole web app in jQuery.@@JovenAlbarida

HTMX will probably get there first.

To me it was the Team America vomit meme again.

it because it is, btw we are getting native observables in a near future

As a hobby coder I didn't get if it was a joke or not.. 🤔

I think it was mainly to drive few comments :) Angular is the source

@@robbasgaming7044 the favorite framework of Fireship is Angular. He has said that a few times on his videos.

I wonder how small will be the userbase of IE11 in 2045

​@@Tordah123There will be banks with a selected few mainframe APIs, which are internet explorer based - so they won't go away unless those banks go bankrupt

Even microsoft fropped IE11, time to stop worrying about it

It's over when I say it's over. I don't let stupid mumbo jumbo shit like "end of life" to tell me how to live. He''ll yeah.

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Its insane how much refactor is involved in maintaining a React app if you want to stay current. It seems like every 2 years or so there's a major deprecation or a large portion of the API changed in a breaking way.

ADHD development team tbh

Who brags about hooks, just earn money till its relevant.

Lol you do realize your old code still works on react 18 right? Say that to Angular

Why is agility a bad thing? We use the best method available until theres a better one. Git gud

Yeah I feel like the signal thing is one concrete example where all major js frameworks are getting closer Vue has them (AFAIK with a proxy abstraction) Angular has em (or coming) Svelte Solid In a few years (if we still write code on our own) we'll be able to choose js frameworks by nuances.

​@@cedi2929There is also a signal implementation for React. It probably doesn't have the best DX, but it looked usable in the tutorials.

@@JanVerny interesting thanks for the insight.

And it basically took 30 years.

In most disciplines, implementation comes before theory, and good things are born into theory during implementation

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Sorry didn't get the joke 😢 Can some one explain?

​@@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 It's the Apple's "innovation" moment. Angular has always had compiler. And Angular has always had all the same damn features React is getting lately (but under a different name) because react just wants to confuse us.

@@WewasKangs-bd9eb To add on to that, Angular having a compiler has been one of the things react devs have derided since React first came out. React is just JS and doesn't have a compiler. Guess not.

@@anarchoyeasty3908I don't get it. I mean, you are building the whole damn thing before deploying. What's wrong with a compiler doing its job during building. Maybe a slightly higher build time, but the pros seems definitely better than cons right now.

actually svelte has made up weird syntax though

Sounds like you need to convert to our savior HTMX

Svelte's syntax looks like shit to me personally, while react is just pure JavaScript.

@@jonaslamprecht9169 but react just had to be "fixed" to make it do things the way vue and svelte do it easily

Many websites need to be just simple. We're not making strategy games in the browser all the time... most websites should just present like a continuous, fancy, powerpoint presentation.

shoutout to that little gnome too

I have all skills maxed

Yaay we are relevant again

I swear that's what Meta's devs do to the company but they're just nice enough to do it open source so everyone can do the same to their own company lmao

You don't have to use new features... Old components keep working as-is. Having said that, having to update code is part of standard maintenance when using any framework, regardless of if it's a frontend or backend framework.

Selling yew logs, 300gp

ONE OF US. i guess ill learn svelt to use runes now.

ecosystem

Everything about react is solely focused on UI. Data fetching is part of UI

It's Hell.

Its a backend framework

It's a joke. A 10 year old joke.

Agreed. Once you get passed the steep rxjs learning curve, you arrive at a beautiful place. Async flows are so easy to model and debug. Debugging async stuff in react can be rough.

yes, but reactivity it's the hard part to master it.

Tried once.. the build was so slow, heavy and clunky that i couldnt go on.. Also.. i hate when people create test files for me (generators). I dont want that crap

@@danvilela-skip-tests

@@danvilela try Angular 17... the build really was slow on previous versions, but in 17 its fast... very fast...

Welcome pal!

Any other channels like this I should know about?

it was a good idea to limit your focus to java, php, golang, c#, npm, nuget, oracle mysql, mongodb, postgres, supabase, firebase, aws, azure and gcp;

Web dev scares me

I started off with c++ -> python -> c# -> javascript(express.js) -> react(next.js). Its been a wild ride, but I love full stack development. I find developer humor hularious or get a chuckle out of reading reddit posts bashing frameworks for their bs.

i got experience in web dev (reactjs), game dev (c# unity3d), and blockchain smart contracts (solidity) and i gotta say all of them have their very abstract sides which are scary, but all of them are also very intuitive once you get a hang of it

One could argue that there is so much more to learn in any field. Have you considered Archeology? Jokes aside, this changing nature of programming sucks honestly lol. Every 3 years you're having to learn new tools to solve the same old problems.

Every couple years they remove an old bandaid and replace it with a new one… until that one starts to smell.

Same 🙂 Plot twist: I am PHP Dev.

hell, I HATE the remake they made with that dude with shitty accent

@@merluzo8269 you dont need a framework or a library to "call functions whenever you want". why so dense? you obviusly know what they meant

someone pls explain this ;_;

Dollar sign 💲💲...we use 💲 to declare variables in php, and lambos are costly

That's so true. It's like a hell and an endless nightmare of pain and suffering trying to catch up with the latest technology 😢

bro why are you here then

Because I enjoy myself with the updates 😁

angular ... perfect ??? Is it a troll ?

In the way like, you don't need to worry about, you choose when you rerender

In Angular < 16 you just decided if you put that function into template (then it will run in every change detection which is uff - not recommended). If you need it in template just use pipe which you explicitly say if its pure/unpure (simplified definition: with or without memo). In Angular >= 16 we have signals and if we use computed() then it's rerendered only when the dependency value has changed - you can choose which dependency attribute you want to track (default) or untrack (wrapped in untracked())

In Vues case it uses proxies. When you change a variable the necessary components will rerender. You don't have to think about it at all.

I worked for a company that did this. For simple projects I agree with you, but as it grows in complexity you end up building your own framework. At which point it would have been easier to use an existing framework from the start.

@@petertyldesley6542 we need a framework for migrating to new frameworks

Nuxt 3 (Vue)

I personally haven't learned react, angular, or vue but the first framework i chose to learn is sveltekit. Routing is out of the box because you have src/routes/+page.svelte (which is the page for '/' or default route) and if you want to create another page you just have to do it like this: src/routes/SomePage/+page.svelte and navigate like this . It's simple for me because i learned to create frontend website using pure js so routing in sveltekit is really straightforward for me. Edit: fyi my knowledge of sveltekit is only 3 weeks so you should check the docs yourself, i might be wrong idk

@@whoami724y Seems promising

@@whoami724y Vue is IMHO just the best most stable framework.

Because the entire component needs to be re-rendered if one of the variables that it uses for rendering the HTML is changed. If you store a variable in a hook `const [count, setCount] = useState(0)` . This is because these are function components, and as functions they don't have an object instance associated with them. So every time you want to update your HTML, React needs to run the function to generate the component again. By binding a variable to a hook, you're "extracting" the variable into the runtime's "memory handler" sorta, so during the next function call it can just retrieve the declared variable from that "memory handler". Without binding it the a hook, the variable is lost once the function goes out of scope, and needs to be created again

.. but they would probably choose worst fmwk out there React because it is popular 😢