This Liquid Piston engine revs to 15k rpm and can make over 1000HP

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Chris VS Cars

Chris VS Cars

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Today we are taking a look at a really weird Rotary engine. The engine is called a Liquid Piston engine. Now as the company them selves state: These engines are not Wankel engines; they are uniquely configured to adopt the company’s patented thermodynamic cycle and its associated efficiency and low-noise benefits. LiquidPiston’s X Engine improves virtually all parameters - efficiency, weight, size, vibration, and noise.
credit: / warpedperception on youtube for his awesome slow mow video
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@NSResponder
@NSResponder Рік тому
If you use this as the generator on a hybrid car, always running it in its optimal power band, you have a huge improvement over the small piston engines used today in cars like the Prius. Knock hundreds of pounds out of the gross weight, and free up a lot of internal space in the car.
@johnhufnagel
@johnhufnagel Рік тому
I was also thinking, the design seems like it'll have an optimum RPM range, so projects where that's true would be the best choice. generators are one, and possibly airplane engines using variable pitch blades to control thrust is another.
@kekethetoad
@kekethetoad Рік тому
Perfect match for CVT cars then
@johnhufnagel
@johnhufnagel Рік тому
@@kekethetoad potentially. However my opinion of CVT transmissions is fairly low, predominantly because manufacturers are specifying horrific maintenance intervals which is causing them to fail rather early in their life cycle.
@Takon_pilot
@Takon_pilot Рік тому
@@kekethetoad *cough cough* nissan *cough cough*
@kenshinhimura9387
@kenshinhimura9387 Рік тому
it's just another shitty rotary engine that will be very unreliable and leak/burn oil. Won't last long.
@craigford4641
@craigford4641 Рік тому
This motor appears to be a perfect replacement for current motorcycle engines ! The size and weight makes it perfect for motorcycle design !
@DamianHallbauer
@DamianHallbauer 11 місяців тому
yes and ebikes.. the energy density of the battery is why they are terrible. downscaled it could be like have 2000 watts with far less weight. although that presents challenges the whole tear drop shape ultra efficient 3 wheel vehicle starts to make sense, as well as in robotics where batteries and vibrating piston engines cant work. the only power source for an android robot is reserved for small space proves and wont be let out into the general population even ithey they had enough of it. why question how loud is it.. how do 4 small rotors stak. i would guess they scale by adding more units..
@Denver1976Man
@Denver1976Man Рік тому
I have seen this before. Hasn't really seemed to have gone anywhere, but I loved the concept.
@ralphsmith8350
@ralphsmith8350 Рік тому
You could have said the same of the piston internal combustion engine at some point.
@PeteTheL337
@PeteTheL337 Рік тому
Anything that can keep the ICE motor alive. I really do not want to switch to EV. I want my engine sound and my manual gearbox.
@RCmaniac667
@RCmaniac667 Рік тому
There can be EVs with manual gearboxes but it's kinda pointless
@crash5811
@crash5811 Рік тому
Dont 4get the character of the individual engines. The less efficient it is the more character it has, the more skill it requires to go fast and stay consistent
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Рік тому
How sad. Polluting engines need phasing out.
@PeteTheL337
@PeteTheL337 Рік тому
@@johnburns4017 Good thing then that my car on doesn't pollute as much as a medium to big EV.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Рік тому
@@PeteTheL337 You are deluded.
@DjCrippleDick
@DjCrippleDick Рік тому
Yes. I absolutely love the idea of this design, being the revival of rotary engines! With Rob Dahm bringing the hype, in his 4 rotor? Imagine if he were to pioneer the first upscaled version? Oh dude, I hope. I really wish!
@brjones27
@brjones27 Рік тому
Yea, that's what I was thinking too! He could really spread this idea around.
@christianmarshall584
@christianmarshall584 Рік тому
He would be the one to afford it but does he know about this technology? According to the comments 30k$ for 3hp so how much money would that be for a 300hp LP? 300k?
@tracewallace23
@tracewallace23 11 місяців тому
​@@christianmarshall584 While 300hp sounds nice and all (dune buggy or quad of some type). I'm thinking BiGgEr, let's see what a 1000hp version looks like and compare it to the top vehicles that run this much power. Because IMHO THAT'S what will get everyone's undivided attention. Beat (or even compete with), a built Hellcat, Raptor, Ducati etc, or push a tractor trailer down the road with competitive fuel rates and people won't stop talking about it.
@AllAmericanBeaner68
@AllAmericanBeaner68 Рік тому
Loving the innovation and am interested in seeing further iterations!
@Jupiterider1
@Jupiterider1 Рік тому
I’m always a fan of new and viable ICE designs. I’m such a believer of Liquid Piston that I just invested into the company. Let’s see those contracts come in!
@stevehayward1854
@stevehayward1854 Рік тому
Oh dear, I hope you didnt invest too much
@unsafe_at_any_speed
@unsafe_at_any_speed 11 місяців тому
The WEF crowd will squash this technology. It doesn't fit their plan for our future.
@some_doofus
@some_doofus 11 місяців тому
@@stevehayward1854 why do you say that?
@andrewfalenski6583
@andrewfalenski6583 Рік тому
Their next technology demonstrator should be at least a dual-rotor 500hp engine that runs on diesel fuel. This would put it in the class of semi-tractor/trailer over the road transportation. It would also be able to show usable fuel mileage numbers.
@Wa1200-6
@Wa1200-6 Рік тому
would be great but hard to imagine with how good common rail motors are, be hard to compete
@kentremendous5112
@kentremendous5112 Рік тому
I would love to see this engine come to market, but I am very afraid it won’t.
@Davoodoox1
@Davoodoox1 Рік тому
You are very correct. This will not succeed anywhere.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Рік тому
​@@Davoodoox1 that's what they said about the first piston engines.
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 Рік тому
Funny, it does look more like a 2-stroke engine, with the ports in the "piston" instead of the cylinder... I didn't quite get the idea about how the seals work, or are made to last...maybe they just burn oil, or use the fuel as a hydrodynamic seal...I dunno..
@tobysatriayudha4564
@tobysatriayudha4564 Рік тому
same with wankel maybe? but it fixed on the chamber rather on the rotor, and you can run oil trough the slit in the seal mount. So, better seal durability, and less oil burned. Just my thought.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Рік тому
Maybe they have the same seals that are used with the wankel engine, but flipped and used the opposite way?
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 8 місяців тому
yes the XTS 210 is the 2 stroke rotary.
@user-zg8ey4zn4p
@user-zg8ey4zn4p 27 днів тому
They're fixed apex seals, so it's easier to keep them lubricated without burning oil.
@iwantmypot
@iwantmypot Рік тому
This one looks to be better than the Wenkel because the seals don't pass over the gaps for the spark plugs. If the RPM in a Wenkel engine gets high enough the spark plug recession can allow burning fuel from a previous cycle to pass into the next cycle early and cause backfiring. (As seen in one of Rob Dahm's recent videos) In addition, this engine block won't be unevenly heated like a Wenkel is. (Though this one's rotor will be unevenly heated, whereas the Wenkel rotor is evenly heated.)
@tobysatriayudha4564
@tobysatriayudha4564 Рік тому
can be solved with port injection maybe? The fuel will cools the rotor a bit
@redcrafterlppa303
@redcrafterlppa303 Рік тому
@@tobysatriayudha4564 the idea is that the intake air flows through the hot side of the rotor and cools it. There are even cooling fins inside the intake channels to improve rotor cooling.
@tobysatriayudha4564
@tobysatriayudha4564 Рік тому
@@redcrafterlppa303 aaaah, that makes sense
@justrelaxing1501
@justrelaxing1501 8 місяців тому
This engine needs marketing!
@tristanmosher6174
@tristanmosher6174 2 місяці тому
I love rotarys and have been following the liquid rotary engine since it's development. When they designed this motor they looked at all engines, their benefits, and flaws, and literally addressed all of them. This has huge potential, and I will be super excited to see the future of this engine
@TurkVladimir
@TurkVladimir Рік тому
Thanks again very useful information Salute to you .
@CynHicks
@CynHicks Рік тому
It's taken them a while to have an actual demo. I remember when it was just in the modeling stage. If the seal lubrication system actually works well this one may actually find some success.
@patjakker6730
@patjakker6730 Рік тому
two things in this video that make you (me) think: 1. " emission laws " 2. " lubricated seals in the combustion chamber "
@nothankyou7766
@nothankyou7766 8 місяців тому
Any new technology is always worth looking at.
@NSResponder
@NSResponder Рік тому
LP is selling evaluation units right now for around $30K to OEM investigating product development. The model they're selling develops three horsepower and weighs four pounds.
@AllenBarclayAllen
@AllenBarclayAllen 9 місяців тому
4:37 Ya , highly about time This can be an outboard motor or an aircraft motor even as a diesel . Using the blade to vent and retrieve fuel is genius that the designers of the Wankel didn't get ..!
@camo8768
@camo8768 Рік тому
I don't know if it's a long term proposition, but it sounds MAGICAL
@NSResponder
@NSResponder Рік тому
With its exceptional power/weight and power to frontal area ratio, this engine would also be ideal for aircraft. Picture a King Air with only 1/3 of the weight of its current horizontal-opposed piston engines, and nacelles that can be far more streamlined.
@jackt6112
@jackt6112 10 місяців тому
"Picture a King Air with only 1/3 of the weight of its current horizontal-opposed piston engines, and nacelles that can be far more streamlined." You are in luck! Today, you can actually take a picture of a King Air with 1/3 of the weight of horizontal-opposed piston engines with nacelles that are streamlined. at any airport with a King Air, and see them with their original pair of Pratt & Whitney PT6 turboprop engines. (tic)
@spunkyprep
@spunkyprep Рік тому
I want to see a longevity test.
@kevinlane1219
@kevinlane1219 11 місяців тому
You had me at "any fuel".☺
@mattschwensen9562
@mattschwensen9562 8 місяців тому
I love this engine and the innovative design but keep in mind we already have mass produced 65cc 2T engines that put out over 15 hp.
@sol666
@sol666 10 місяців тому
It is still a metal on metal contact engine. The reason rotary engines failed was because unlike a traditional piston engine that only makes contact with the walls of the combustion chamber with a spring loaded thin metal ring, rotary engines didnt just use a bigger metal surface to make contact with the chamber walls but its entire working required it to do it constantly, at very high speed and with force scraping sideways so no part of the chamber remained untouched. That means once it has reached the end of its durability, no mechanic can rebuild it correctly due the odd shape of the inner chamber (piston chambers are cylindrical and boring equipment are made for cylindrical cavities). When working with metals simple shapes can be recreated with much higher precision and lower cost then odd shapes like oblong or triangle which need a far more specialized and expensive metal cutting tool. I'd say the engine was designed to be discarded after use with the intent of preventing engine builders from fixing it. It is an all too common ploy used by chinese manufacturers to increase their sales volume by sacrificing customer confidence and product durability.
@rovz
@rovz Рік тому
Great video, I just read about this engine on morning brew. Looks they planning on using it as a generator for ev's and also for drones.
@leonmunro7659
@leonmunro7659 Рік тому
With three combustion cycles per revolution, what would be the fuel efficiency? Additionally, if it's humming along at 15,000 RPM within its maximum power band to produce 5HP, what would be the equivalent fuel consumption per HP against a standard 5HP ICE?
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Рік тому
Going back in your list I found this. But you have covered it a few times since this one. I do hope it works out, it does sound great. The apex seals and the seals towards the housing are the close tolerances to meet I guess.
@motoflyte
@motoflyte Рік тому
Whenever I see this guys adds for the engine I always have a great laugh
@ethanproctor3256
@ethanproctor3256 Рік тому
Although I would like to see how well it fares in more common and practical applications, as well as some more of it's numbers; this engine seems more ideal than I thought possible. I would love to develop it in the future.
@DeepakKumar-cd8ny
@DeepakKumar-cd8ny Рік тому
I feel like I have been hearing about this engine for a decade and have not seen a product yet.
@shawns0762
@shawns0762 Рік тому
Those seals will ensure that this design will never replace conventional engines
@mdj391
@mdj391 Рік тому
The seals are actually just as good as modern ICE because of how they do it. They were actually featured on Discovery for their process. Check their website.
@Jarmezrocks
@Jarmezrocks Рік тому
Because it does 3 combustion cycles per revolution, it sounds like a 20B rotary! And that's pretty awesome cause I think the 20B is the best sounding production Wankel rotary engine!
@kentonian
@kentonian Рік тому
It’s 1 and a 3rd per rotation
@neirad537
@neirad537 Рік тому
Also another benefit of this design I think is that it will heat up the entire engine equality, instead of only having only one side where the combustion happen.
@imaginarytoast
@imaginarytoast Рік тому
A constant problem with all rotary engines is that they burn a lot of oil. This would too.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN Рік тому
I agree 👍 they need to stack 3 or 4 of them and have automatic oiling systems.
@kentonian
@kentonian Рік тому
You can’t as the shaft is the air intake
@jimbillyjenkims
@jimbillyjenkims Рік тому
Oh, SUPER quiet. Haha, jk. The fact that they eliminated the apex seals is huge in itself. I'll be interested to see how the intake and exhaust seals hold up. As far as I know, they've never been incorporated into the rotating assembly.
@NSResponder
@NSResponder Рік тому
They didn't eliminate the seals, they moved them from the rotor to the ring. The rotor doesn't have apexes like the Wankel rotor does.
@Nabraska49
@Nabraska49 Рік тому
And the big question is how efficient is it..
@mdj391
@mdj391 Рік тому
The cycle is approximately 30% more efficient than an Otto or Diesel cycle engine with their most favorable tests, and has about 5x power density over Otto and almost 10x power density over Diesel, so that motor can fit into a ton of really small places. Or be one big awesome motor if sized the same as the traditional ones.
@richr161
@richr161 Рік тому
@@mdj391 Durability, Emmisions, Hp. There are a lot of things more important than raw hp/weight. I don't see the benefits over this, when a 2 stroke engine covers all the same bases, while being more durable. It will also have the same downfalls of a 2 stroke and rotary. Those oblong chambers aren't going to burn as efficiently as traditional chambers will. Unburnt fuel will make it way outside of the exhaust port leading to poor efficiency. Same problem rotary engines had, exactly why they burnt so much fuel. Durability is still questionable. You still going to have to oil this, with oil in the combustion chamber. Its not a death sentence, but finding the balance between having a short lived motor and passing emissions is going to be a challenge. Ultimately i can't see a use for it. If i wanted the least amount of weight and high hp i would run a 2 stroke engine for small applications or motorcycles. Big applications there isn't much use because the 4 strokes have been ironed out to almost perfection. The only application i see is generator/electric vehicle hybrids. Constant rpm/ low weight/ efficient. But then why not rotary. They excel at generator function too.
@redcrafterlppa303
@redcrafterlppa303 Рік тому
@@richr161 why traditional rotaries are bad as generators? Simply because they die quickly when run at fuel optimal rpm's. For a rotary to last they need to rev high. Which is also why they aren't great for everyday cars. The redesigned rotary with its 3 combustions per cycle fix the low rpm problems.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 8 місяців тому
4 strokes in bigger application suck to, i hate them in cars trucks also and i like the 2 stroke XTS 210 2 stroke version of this engine. Also looking at Rotax and achates power 2 strokes also
@andreaskampe9143
@andreaskampe9143 Рік тому
It has the same flaw as a Wankle engine, it needs super precision CNC machined rotor and housing a traditional piston achieves the precision by drilling, much much faste/ easier/cheaper and reliable.
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick Рік тому
I love the design of this engine, I've known about it for years. But I feel like you presented it in a way that was very, very optimistic, since it's not in production yet, or you make it sound like some of its properties are unique, when they're not. Here's your list: 1. Scalable -- My friends works at a power plant that has an on-demand generator: it's an inline 8 cylinder engines with pistons the size of a man. Reciprocating engines are scalable, too. 2. Quiet. I think the footage at the end of that go kart says it's not quiet, I wouldn't expect it to be quiet. 3. "No Vibrations" -- Their design seems to be more balanced than a reciprocating engine, but c'mon Also, most ICEs can be adapted to multiple fuels. Different grades of gasoline, propane, natural gas, or hydrogren for instance for engines with spark plugs, diesel, biodiesel, etc on the other side. I would love to think this engine can run both high-compression fuels like diesel, and low compression fuels like gas, without chanyges. I just don't see that as possible. Again, I fucking love this engine!! The first time I heard of a Wankle 20+ years ago, I dove deep and it tickled my brain. Then, years ago when I heard someone inverted the Wankle's geometry, I pooped my pants. I want this to work. I want to play with them. But that's gonna come from honesty. Being excited is great, but this video came off like it's perfect. I still subscribed though, hope to see you grow.
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick Рік тому
@DontWorryDiaperJoeGotYouCovered do you have a name of the engine or link? I couldn't find anything about them working on a non-Wankel design
@glenrisk5234
@glenrisk5234 11 місяців тому
It's an interesting evolution of the rotary principle.
@Tiagomottadmello
@Tiagomottadmello Рік тому
Awesome! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@chasx7062
@chasx7062 Рік тому
that little wedge in the middle of each side will wear out quickly
@irishn8
@irishn8 11 місяців тому
I think that the seals being fixed to the engine case instead of the piston will make a ton of difference as they don’t move and can be fitted with oiling nozzles of needed
@mervynmontague1811
@mervynmontague1811 Рік тому
Interesting and informative 🇯🇲
@eaglechawks3933
@eaglechawks3933 Рік тому
I like the idea. I would like to see data on lubrication and cooling it though - seems like that much power in that small a package would generate a lot of heat.
@NotABot-px7ky
@NotABot-px7ky 9 місяців тому
one main problem w the wankel engine is that it requires burning oil, which this does not do. Additionally, because the apex seals dont move, they are less likely to fail. As for cooling, there are plenty of innovative ways to cool things that are much hotter than this
@chrisbraid2907
@chrisbraid2907 Рік тому
Interesting little Engine, maybe this was what Felix should have made. If it can be enlarged and developed in this EV age, I’d be interested in it’s power to economy figures, it could allow a Grom sized bike with the power of my GSX1100 …. That would be a real fun Sleeper …
@johnnysmith64
@johnnysmith64 Рік тому
Only problem I can think of is the centripetal force from the extreme RPMs might cause the material to destroy itself but maybe not, would be interesting to find out
@andyman8630
@andyman8630 Рік тому
considering the 'rotor' is housed, it would be the housing itself which takes the load moreso than the rotor
@WorldEngine64
@WorldEngine64 4 місяці тому
the f1 2004 engines could rev to 19000rpm with a 3.5L engine and it didnt explode
@kcjones6034
@kcjones6034 Рік тому
This motor is rad. 😎 I like it alot.
@ChrisVSCars
@ChrisVSCars Рік тому
I also think is awesome😁
@nathanhale7444
@nathanhale7444 Рік тому
The biggest problem I see is the same as all rotary style engines have. Blowby coming from the flat sides. You can either lube the crap outta the sides and burn oil or settle for short lived engines. You could run oil in the fuel but then you'd still be burning oil. I think it would take some kind of advancement in micro particle anti friction oil additives to allow the high enough tolerances for the motor to be reliable.
@mdj391
@mdj391 Рік тому
Look at their website. Intrinsic construction and location of the seal solve the oil problem.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 8 місяців тому
Graphene
@cocosloan3748
@cocosloan3748 Рік тому
It goes BRRRRR !
@domingodeanda233
@domingodeanda233 Рік тому
That was pretty damn good
@Paul-kp1tu
@Paul-kp1tu Рік тому
Yes i agree with the sentiments, bring it on so there will be some alternative to EVs, i love the living breathing combustion engines so anything to keep them available is very very good news
@LichaelMewis
@LichaelMewis Рік тому
The end clip with the go-kart sounds like it's turning up 7K RPM and moving around 5 mph.
@Name_Lessness
@Name_Lessness Рік тому
I'm interested in seeing a hybrid version of this with the usage of regenerative braking in cars. For motorcycles using a dual rotary concept (power to each wheel) like this would redesign motorcycles. Riding a shiftless motorcycle isn't preferable.
@Dan-oi4kt
@Dan-oi4kt 9 місяців тому
They've got military contracts now
@Hodenkat
@Hodenkat 11 місяців тому
It took a long time for something like the CV transmission to be adopted for mass production, but I hope this engine gets adopted much faster.
@AlexanderTzalumen
@AlexanderTzalumen Рік тому
This seems like it could easily displace the entire small-motor market sector, gas scooters, dirt bikes, atvs, snowmobiles, jetskis, lawn mowers, chainsaws, leaf blowers, snow blowers, backup generators, outboard motors, really anything using a two-stroke or a 1-2 piston 4-stroke hoyle be able to benefit. We might even see more use of electric transmission drive trains in small motor applications. I'd love to see one of these powering an electric drive train on a stretch ruckus.
@AspartameBoy
@AspartameBoy Рік тому
Should be a winner
@amphibiousone7972
@amphibiousone7972 Рік тому
Liquid Piston Engine has much potential. IMHO
@mikaelbergman8259
@mikaelbergman8259 11 місяців тому
Exhaust gas temperatures in efficient high output engines reach in excess of 900 degrees centigrade and pistons are normally cooled by large and close contact with cylinder wall and oil spray under piston is often used. The rotor here with exhaust channel seem difficult to cool well. High temperatures may give sealing problems and material problems on all sides of the rotor probably. Running correct fuel/air mixture for correct catalytic converter function gives high exhaust temperatures.
@outsider7658
@outsider7658 Рік тому
Glömde att fråga om, hur fungerar kylningen av motorn i fråga? Hur mycket låter den vid gång? Behövs yttre ljuddämpare och kylning, som sagt?
@christophercharles9645
@christophercharles9645 Рік тому
Very cool. Tune in next week when Chris VS Cars MAKES one!!!
@ChrisVSCars
@ChrisVSCars Рік тому
I wish😂😂
@truethought369
@truethought369 Рік тому
Thank you Chris, I have been around engines most of my life. This engine that you are showing, has a lot going for it. 1, less moving parts. 2, less waste of energy due to being a rotatory type. 3, If it was multiplied up to six rotors, it would fit in between the chasse of any commercial truck! What's not like? Have a nice day.
@CynHicks
@CynHicks Рік тому
This one has definitely caught some attention, even in the modeling stage. Unfortunately there's a lot of apathy when it comes to new engine designs because many exaggerate the potential of their engines. The difference with this one, in my opinion, is it isn't actually a radically new design. It's a "radically improved" version of an existing proven design. Like you said, it has a lot going for it. I do wonder if stacking rotators with this design is practical though.
@timwegman5776
@timwegman5776 Рік тому
@@CynHicks I was thinking why not scale up first rather than stack them unless he means to do both if so from the numbers I've read that would be a crazy over kill but fun to see!
@darin2009
@darin2009 Рік тому
A commercial truck? So as with a rotary type it makes. Disma torque at lower rpm.. regardless of the rotor count. Not good idea for grunting up hills and mountains with a load of 80k... spin it u say? Well good luck getting the 1/2 million moles or more that they do.. much less 150k spinning that thing under a severe load
@CynHicks
@CynHicks Рік тому
@@darin2009 Could it be that it could overcome this because of the extra cycles per revolution? Could it allow it to produce power at much lower rpms? I'm not an engineer but it makes sense to me. Also, even if it can't replace diesel low rpm torque many commercial trucks use gasoline for ligher duty hauling. If it can just compete with gasoline engine's low end torque while being able to idle as low it should be fine right?
@darin2009
@darin2009 Рік тому
@@CynHicks naw.. extra cycles won't help the low rpm trq loss. Due to the way it operates.. yea maybe better than a true rotary.. but by design and physics... when combustion happens... the piston/rotor/what ever ya wanna call it. Moves away from the ignition so fast and opens up a huge combustion area.. watch the vid slowly... there is almost zero dwell time fore pressure to rise at lower prm.prices.. ermm.. 4.5k and lower.. where all mass transit and trucks live... sure. It's awesome fore. High rpm power... but for a half a million miles to 1 million miles on a low rpm chugging working semi... just isn't feasible. Pulling power. Worked of pure low rpm is 4k and below. Diesel stump yanking nutz..nuts... a rotary in any iteration may do this with the proper gearing.... but for how long.... sorry.. builds to much heat on seals.. in any form... this is why a higher revving gasoline. Piston engine isn't used... pulling isn't about power... it's pure torque. And life expactancy..expectancy... a rotary.. sure. Power galore... but not for commercial use
@regularguy8110
@regularguy8110 Рік тому
It's been demonstrated on a drone and the military is Very interested in it.
@raymondbaring8470
@raymondbaring8470 10 місяців тому
I was today's year old when I learn of this engine type existence, I'm ashamed of myself. What a genius design!
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 Рік тому
What if I release plans to build this engine under a creative commons license? I think I might get in trouble with patents, it would be interesting. Require a fairly snazzy bit of casting
@iwir3d
@iwir3d Рік тому
I really like this over the traditional wankel rotary motor. I would love to see it and specs.
@josetierra8504
@josetierra8504 Рік тому
Still have to give props to Rotary Engine,
@2smoker64
@2smoker64 Рік тому
Been seeing this thing for years now, but until i see it for sale
@merlin1346
@merlin1346 Рік тому
liquid piston? this is a different take on the rotary. why no compression strips? that tells me this would have to be extremely fine tolerance's when using petroleum's due to emission's, that is why the rotary engines had them.
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 Рік тому
Looks like the reverse of the Wankle. The Wankle has a triangular rotor and a figure 8 chamber. This has a triangular chamber and figure 8 rotor. What I want to know is the durability. How does it stand up to aircraft overhaul requirements, s piston and vs turbine
@mdj391
@mdj391 Рік тому
They have already used it to make a hybrid airplane. Check their website.
@komrade223
@komrade223 Рік тому
I have thousands of hours running single piston, 2 stroke chainsaws. My favorite saw and daily work horse is over 20 years old. I have resisted computer controlled carbs in favor of mechanical simplicity. I even pass up the more powerful fuel injected saw that is available. But if this type of engine can compete with my beloved 440 in power to weight? This engine looks like it wants to deliver torque. In my applications, that could be huge. While also not needing 2 stroke oil. Another huge plus in my own opinion. I will miss the backfires that my aftermarket exhaust creates. But lower vibration is super attractive.
@Jarmezrocks
@Jarmezrocks Рік тому
Did he actually mention that it doesn't require 2 stroke oil? I must have missed that part? 2 stroke actually smells nice though? In Australia we have a cliche movie called 'The Castle' which makes good reference to the point I'm trying to make lol
@komrade223
@komrade223 Рік тому
@@Jarmezrocks I'm asthmatic, some chemical fumes trigger inflammation bad in me. Cheap two stroke oil can choke me out. But running straight fuel means no worries, just get some proper octane fuel and go.
@Jarmezrocks
@Jarmezrocks Рік тому
@@komrade223 I have asthma too and yes I too agree less fumes the better. 2 stroke only smells nice when it's wofting in the breeze diluted from afar 😁 On a side note if you are "suffering" from your asthma conditions (in general) you should ask your doctor for a prescription for Breo Ellipta (fluticasone furoate)25mg inhaler👍 Since using this I have not suffered from any asthma symptoms in many years!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 8 місяців тому
This engine would use 2 stroke oil and there is nothing wrong with that. I f i ever get the XTS 210 im using nothing but synthetic 2 stroke oil and i got plenty of it.
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord Рік тому
I came up with this exact same idea independently when I tried to solve the problem of apex seals. this is just a first pass at combustion sequence optimization. the apex seal problem has only been _mitigated_ with this design.
@timwegman5776
@timwegman5776 Рік тому
I came up with it as well when I was playing with my hot wheel set. That was a long time ago so I would say I was first!
@alternatemusicaddict5226
@alternatemusicaddict5226 Рік тому
I wonder if they can do some kind of roller kind of like a ballpoint pen
@kentonian
@kentonian Рік тому
I’ve just written a post about using a needle roller bearing as part of the seals
@alternatemusicaddict5226
@alternatemusicaddict5226 Рік тому
@@kentonian where
@kentonian
@kentonian Рік тому
@@alternatemusicaddict5226 don't know how to link to it but here is a copy and paste: It’s great as a 4 stroke version of a wankel but still we have the seals issue. I really want these guys to succeed but I have not seen any innovation in the apex seal. I know there is a company in Portsmouth that rebuilds Mazda rotaries and has increased the life in those engines but I think there is still a way to go. It’s the one overriding advantage with cylinders, the seals don’t have to conform to a moving face. They can be oiled from one side and there can be many of them per chamber. Has anyone thought of using a needle bearing as the primary seal? Then a sliding seal behind the needle roller bearing? This way the sliding seal doesn’t have to move. The needle roller can turn at the appropriate speed to match the rotor passing over it so there would be no sliding force on the rotor.
@balventray
@balventray Рік тому
Ideal hybrid power unit / generator
@clintvosloo7694
@clintvosloo7694 Рік тому
Let's hope it takes off
@richardxstroker
@richardxstroker Рік тому
I still want to know why the ‘apex seals’ aren’t serviceable from the outside of the rotor case. Could you not pull a service cover, remove, and replace?
@h2opower
@h2opower Рік тому
I like it and think they should get a Mazda and swap in their engine and see what happens.
@GWAYGWAY1
@GWAYGWAY1 Рік тому
It is always the seals that fail, side seals and the combustion seals. Needs loving car to progress in development.😊
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 Рік тому
I’m following engine tech because I’m into light sports aircraft
@Proudfootzorz
@Proudfootzorz Рік тому
Please Mazda, bring back the RX line with a scaled up version of this engine!
@neilyakuza6595
@neilyakuza6595 Рік тому
The oval design of the rotational piston is cool, but again only time will tell how long the seals will last.
@MrRotaryrockets
@MrRotaryrockets Рік тому
I think they will have issues with wear and rebuilding the Rotor housings they are very complicated..if worn they would most likely be tossed out,and replaced with new as well, if any carbon is collected inside the engine it will most likely damage the rotor itself as the apex seals are now in the Housing..
@LeoTheComm
@LeoTheComm Рік тому
Has a great sound, somewhere between a triple and an inline six.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 8 місяців тому
2 stroke noise yes
@MrRolnicek
@MrRolnicek Рік тому
This seems like the best choice for a Paraglider engine or a similar ultralight ... but I'd say it probably should be 3D printed. Forget about developing manufacturing methods for the engine, just 3D print it.
@richr161
@richr161 Рік тому
just use a 2 stroke engine for a paraglider. Its going to be hard to get lighter and more simple than that.
@MrRolnicek
@MrRolnicek Рік тому
@@richr161 Those 2stroke paramotor engines are bulky and heavy. and 90% of the reason why is because of the exhaust. This type of engine shouldn't need any exhaust pipe at all. It's not simpler, that's true and it's likely not going to be as powerful but it's most likely going to be smaller and lighter.
@georgeliquor2931
@georgeliquor2931 Рік тому
Side ports in the rotor remind me of the Mazda renesis
@realcygnus
@realcygnus Рік тому
Nifty !
@marty906
@marty906 9 місяців тому
Perfect it and make a 300 hp jet ski that weighs < 500lb.
@MikeWilliams-yp9kl
@MikeWilliams-yp9kl Рік тому
I could do with this engine for my bicycle, save my arthritic knees. And have it run on camping gas.
@tims8603
@tims8603 Рік тому
Wankel engines have several flaws that are almost impossible to overcome. The seals are scraping the chamber walls requiring oil to be injected into the engine. The seals wear out requiring an engine tear down. They don't get good fuel economy. The combustion occurs in only one chamber causing a hot spot which makes even cooling difficult. This engine seems to overcome those flaws. I can hardy wait to see how they hold up in the real world.
@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn
@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn Рік тому
They solved the problem with the apex seals like 20 years ago dude. And the engine fires on all three faces of the rotor. Delete the omp and premix the fuel so you're not burning crank case oil in the combination chamber.
@tims8603
@tims8603 Рік тому
@@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn You made some claims. Now show me where you got that info.
@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn
@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn Рік тому
You're kidding right? Go watch some of Rob dahms videos or angel motor sports. It's literally just making sure your clearances are right and make sure none of your side seal on the rotors are sticking and dowel the block to keep it from twisting when you start making power because these are basically Oreos and they twist
@jdoe9518
@jdoe9518 9 місяців тому
50cc 2 stroke engines are producing up 38hp 2 rotor 13B drag race engines running single turbo on methanol are reliably producing 1400hp This design produces no more work at the crankshaft than a Wankel. Hardly anyone realises it's side seal that are responsible for lost compression in rotary engines. This engine will be no different. Apex seals will face the exact issues they do in a in the Wankel.
@aaronrodgers5852
@aaronrodgers5852 Рік тому
Have you ever done a video on cyclones External Combustion Engine? would like to a video on that and your take on it.
@ChrisVSCars
@ChrisVSCars Рік тому
No but it sounds awesome😁 ill do some research on it and make a video💪
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Рік тому
This engine appears to have be been dropped from the radar. It was only suitable for large applications.
@mdj391
@mdj391 Рік тому
@John Burns, the majority of applications are currently for ultralight vehicles or generators. Upscaling for these guys is primarily via multiple engines, and they are completing a fairly huge contract right now. Check their website.
@brjones27
@brjones27 Рік тому
I love this idea. Been trying to spread it around as much as I can, especially to folks like Rob Dahm.
@komolkovathana8568
@komolkovathana8568 Рік тому
Technical chart : i hope 15,000 rpm (250 Hertz) which is (1/250)=(4/1,000)=4 msec, but the FLAME (Propagation) TIME needed is much more than that (15-20 msec). Obviously the Power stroke will deficit of thermal extraction, they (triple lobes) will not ever reach full expansion before being dumped-out to (premature) exhaust; (1) you can argue that 15,000 rpm is just MAXIMUM speed, the Operational ones is much much lower than that, the optimum speed usually 60% (of less) of Max one.. (2) you may CHOOSE very high OCTANE no. of (gasoline) fuel, to make fast burner. Then you could get a more efficient version of this compact engine..good luck!
@balventray
@balventray Рік тому
Would make a ideal small light aircraft engine
@mdj391
@mdj391 Рік тому
Literally one of the first things they out it in. Check their website.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort Рік тому
To my reckoning it won't need a gearbox thus saves yet more weigh Making it extremely stronger with platinum coated internal surfaces to stop rust or erotion.its not as expensive as the razor blades have a spluttering method to coat the blades. Results should be a fantastic throttle that just keeps reviving faster and faster. In theory anyway.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert Рік тому
This might find a good home inside small aircraft like a Piper Cub or a Cessna 172. Or perhaps being used in motorcycles. In both applications you have the efficiency of a diesel engine without the excess weight.
@joebaucom4537
@joebaucom4537 Рік тому
Great !
@thomasknight-wagener6630
@thomasknight-wagener6630 Рік тому
so good
@barneybetelgeuse6273
@barneybetelgeuse6273 Рік тому
Very impressive hope it goes into full production and available to the public 😀👍🍻
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