_"Universities are still one of the few things the UK does well"_ Westminster: _TARGET ACQUIRED!_

In rushing to blame the government, you miss out a very important issue. Universities have become huge managerial bureaucracies. They pay insane salaries to the people at the top who don't even teach or research, and they have been taken over by administrators who create reasons for their own existence and interfere with the teaching by the faculty. Academics are pushed to work long hours and produce several poor quality research papers a year, whereas previously they would produce one good paper every two or three years. The reason it's suddenly so expensive to 'teach' students (who actually receive less teaching than ever before) is that universities have become corporations rather than institutions, with all the nonsense that comes with that.

When you have to buy your own books, have limited printers available to print and none for free, accommodate yourself, feed yourself, and have say 100 people on your course, how the fuck does it cost £5000 per student per year in the first place. I'm baffled.

What they did over COVID was a joke. 9 k for a online and no face to face lessons...

Is there anything in the UK which isn’t in crisis?

I'm finding it hard to feel sorry for them. They have made being a student miserable and the cost simply can not be justified anymore when postgraduates STILL cant even find work. It's seen as an investment, but they have turned it into a high risk investment. People aren't willing to take that risk, not to mention the ramifications it has on student's lives. If you go to uni, you cant afford to save money, you cant afford rent, let alone a mortgage, you cant afford to feed your family or even start a family..... so is it really worth it to a lot of people?

It's becoming like the international students are the full-fee paying customers and the British students are the "scholarship" students.

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The worst thing the government did to universities was to stop subsidising tuition fees for nursing students. We'll always need nurses, but what exactly are the incentives for young people to become a nurse? Back in 2010 when I did my degree, the only benefit I could see of studying nursing (as opposed to another useful degree like psychology) was the lack of debt at the end of it.

I think the focus of the debate should be why it's so expensive, and not trying to come up with ways fill the shortfalls.

The video does not once question why it costs the university over £11k per student. A few hours of lectures and the rest of the time reading from books (paid or at additional expense to the students). Instead of suggesting more money needs to be spent, how about an explanation as to how the university needs over £11k per student just to break even... Where is this excess money going? Wages? Pensions? Also, a sleight of hand from the presenter here. When he compared tuition fees increase against inflation, he neglected to mention that the year before his comparison, tuition fees were under 4 grand. So the inflation picture looks a lot different... This is how to lie with statistics.

I used to work at the university of Essex which of course is in the UK. In 2018 during a meeting with management the head of the university said to other managers," I don't care what you have to f*cking say or do just get the f*cking tuition fees off them!" He was of course refering to signing up new students. If you're a parent and you are thinking of sending your son/daughter to Essex university then don't. If you go to their open days the management instruct staff and researchers to lie to you about job prospects for graduates in the hope they can get those tuition fees. What they never tell you are where graduates end up after leaving with their piece of paper and the reason they don't readily tell you is that the numbers are so shocking. Essex uni has one of the lowest job prospects for graduates. Oh and they use the same exams year in year out in a desperate bid to raise their rankings. Oh and don't even get me started on the dyslexia scam. The more dyslexia students they say they have the more money they can get. It's total bullshit!

Amazing British universities have given us big brains like Boris Johnson (Oxford), Liz Truss (Oxford), and Kwasi Kwarteng (Cambridge)

It’s almost like education works better as a public good, not a for-profit industry. Totally inconceivable…

You work for 40yrs to have $1m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $10k in a meme coin for just few months and now they are multi millionaires. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life

Halting prospects of international students when you want them in your university to pay those insane prices. A lot of parents don't think it's worth it to send them to the UK, when there are better options such as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. The UK has been on a high horse for too long in terms of so called academic prestige, that is very much replaceable.

One thing that i think is important to mention is that in 2012 the cap for UK student fees was raised from £3k to £9k a year, whilst at the same time central government funding of universities was slashed (due to austerity) so whilst at first it looks like universities were getting 3x more money per student, in actuality it stayed the same and over time actually became less (because of the cap being frozen and not keeping up with inflation)

It's almost like university fees are a fucking stupid idea.

At 9k a term and providing only a few hours tuition per week for that. HOW THE FUCK are they losing money ?

sometimes I forget how good we have it up in Scotland, free tuition for every Scottish citizen really is a privilege

Uk student here paying £9250 a year for an average of 6-8 hours of lectures and about the same in pre recorded lectures per week. The university terms are basically oct-may with breaks for Christmas and Easter, so about 7 months total. So assume 32 hours per week for 30 weeks, that totals to 960 hours a year. Just over £9.50 an hour. This is per person in an engineering degree, with almost no practical work to speak of. Its all lectures and theory. Recently the university invested millions into a new tech building featuring all sorts of high end stuff prominantly displayed for passers by to see. These get used by a handful of people doing research. So I highly doubt the university is losing any money on your average undergrad, rather it wastes the majority of it on stuff only a few people will see in their entire uni experience.

The fees haven't risen since 2012!? Well neither have wages

So as a graduate who worked for my university and befriended a Ph. D Student who told me all about it. The government stopped basically subsiding student capacity and instead gave money based on research. So the fees were brought up to the cost of teaching and the more research the uni pump out (and supposedly influences the research field) the more they!d get for facilities for teaching and research. THIS is why universities pretty much employ lecturers on a ‘if you don’t pump out research papers and teach your specialism and play a role in your subject here, you get booted out’ basis. So they work long hours, universities don’t pay them for ALL of their time, publishers make huge profit on the publishing (lecturer see none of it btw). The uni money is also stretched to fund their marketing and admin teams which no one knows is there but their jobs are to pump out ‘come here!’ propaganda and steal students (paying customers) away from the competition. More students = more grants = more staff = more research = more money = more buildings = more students and it goes on. That’s also why universities seem to take up whole city centres now. It’s not until you’ve been there that you see how influential the ripple effect from a student population is. They fill jobs, they stimulate the local economies. Universities as a whole are worth billions from all these cycles of money and influence.

40+ years of stripping the copper out of the walls of the British estate will do this.

Blair. Yes, him again. Thanks to him a University Degree is now a commercial commodity and a lot of bright young people have decided that learning a trade is a better option than spending 3 years running up £50k of debt.

The thing that always got me as a student is how a 30-per-year engineering class with 20 hours of lectures and labs every week and 10 plus full-time staff was able to be run at a net positive for the university while a 200-per-year psychology course with 10 hours of lectures and labs every week and 6 full-time staff was a net loss for the university. It never made sense.

40% of graduates won't pay back tuition fees AND the universities are "taking a loss" on tuition fees? Seems like 50% of the university places need to vanish. Not one of my nephews or nieces with a degree is doing "a graduate job". They were all scammed into doing unnecessary degrees and are now saddled with huge debts. They all agree they should never have gone to university, they were conned by the lies about career opportunities.

This has been coming for a long time. I studied in the UK at a smaller uni and about 70% of the students in my class where international students from the EU. Back then the extraa fees where paid through EU programes. Pretty shure there is no way for smaller institutions to replace all that lost revenue with people from outside of the EU.

Who would have thought, that the Tories would not match the EU's funds for British Universities?? About 52%, in 2016.

Bold introduction! “Like everything else in the UK, universities are loosing money” 😳

Well, if you try to run an educational institution as a business, this is what you get.

Tuition fees were not 'Introduced at 9000 pounds in 2012' they were introduced at 1000 pounds beginning 1997.

Universities are one of the few things the UK still does well. Brutal😭😭😢

Funny when you think back 40 years, everything worked ok, but now everything is broken.

From the inside: huge salaries mainly for admin, nepotism, high and rising fees, high cost of living for students

I just can't imagine universities making a loss on charging undergrads 9K a year. I just finished a phd in science, my bench fees (which we wouldn't always spend all of) were 4.5k a year and I probably did 200x more experiments a year than your typical undergrad. Now I get that my teaching fees from lecturers are vastly reduced but unis have giant lecture theatres where 1 lecturer teaches 300 students. So hard to see how that can cost 11k each per year.

We shouldn't ignore the role which university managements have played. UEA, for example, has spent a fortune on new buildings while failing to maintain the old ones which now need emergency repairs.

Most degrees have become redundant anyway, my girlfriend has a Masters degree but hasn’t been able to fine a job for 4 months

It's incredible to me that, over the last 6 years, I don't think a single positive piece of news or information has come out of the UK. It is really incredible how the country continues to get worse and worse

I think university only really makes sense now if you are going into STEM or a higher value field that requires it to enter the industry, such as Law or Medicine. As a naive 17 year old back in 2009, I signed up for a Bachelors in Advertising, mainly because it was drilled into us at the time that it was essential to go. It absolutely wasnt and there is no way I would do the same today, given that the cost of comparable courses are almost 4 times as high. 60-80k Debt for a degree that is, at best, an extra box tick on your CV, is not worth it.

I was an international (EU) student in London for 5 years, in late 90s; studied for undergrad and two post-grad degrees and paid ZERO for tuition. All I had to do was to submit a form yearly, which the Uni authorities then forwarded to the local council in order to receive the EU grant funds for my tuition. That was it! Students, back then, were admitted on the basis of academic merit, not their ability to pay tuition fees. Anyway, another reason why Brexit was such a bad idea..

My mother works for one of the big unis that's run out of room now to juggle funding gaps which began way back in the 2010's. They've already gutted out a lot of their high-paying jobs with voluntary redundancies over the past 12 months, and now it's likely that mass layoffs will happen come summer. So if you ignore the general mess that the UK's higher education model is (fees, funding, etc), the impending pop of this bubble is also going to cripple local economies when a large portion of their workforce suddenly finds themselves unemployed.

My very close friend move to london 7 months, he is there to accompany the wife as she has scholarship to study there for 3 years, my fren followed, he is allowed to work. 1st month is a real test to him, getting a place to stay , looking for job makes him cried. 2nd month he get a full-time job, the may is minimum but good enough for him, but the tax is 25%. Shocked him. 3rd month the wife pregnant, the landlord ask them to move. Another test trying to look for a place to stay when you have a pregnant wife. He said every month is a test, if it wasn't becos of the wife, he would go back to work in SEA anytime. Life is hard there even the pound sounds great!

In the US, it's the opposite. Governors have cut support to state universities, causing record high prices in tuition, creating the student debt crisis.

A degree is not worth the paper it's printed on. It's the biggest impediment to finding a job in the UK. I was part of that mass exodus of further and higher education teachers who left the UK from the early 2000s when the work dried up. Take your knowledge and skills abroad where it's valued.

how do you extort people and still go bankrupt

Biggest problem in the UK is share holder to many of them sucking all the money out of the business

Two big universities in South Australia are currently merging - it might be an interesting case study.

Universities mostly own the buildings so no mortgage/loan for buildings. Most universities charge a lot of money for accommodation (a small room with bed and desk sharing kitchen and often bathrooms) They basic and expensive. You know this

Maybe universities are just chronically overspending, my uni had nearly 30k students; meaning nearly £270million a year. If they can't find a way to budget that I kinda think that's on them...

This is a load of nonsense. Students pay 10k a pop say 6 students band together to pay 1 professional (a 50k salary & 10k premises rent) to teach them you would have a student ratio of 1-6. slap some 20-year-old slides and you have a university experience. in universities, the average ratio is 17-1 they are not losing money they are mismanaging cashflows. More money doesn't solve poor managment.

You work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K in a meme coin from just few months ago and now they are multimillionaires.

Education should not be run like a business and it is not something we should be paying for with tuition fees. Further and higher education are essential for the betterment of our society. It makes a smarter, more productive population and helps with social mobility. I'd even go as far as saying that industries where we have a shortfall, there should be a stipend to encourage people to study in those fields. The stipend should also be means tested so if a mature student with a mortgage wants to become a doctor, we should have systems in place to allow them to do this.

How are universities running out of money when the quality of lectures has decreased significantly since covid.

British unis are a rip-off. The level of edu is not worth the terrible tuition fees, in particular when they charge unacceptable fees "overseas" students. Majority of the young see the study in the UK as a chance later to stay there and find a job. As for the edu, the UK provides the average level of edu.

Look at the renumeration of a lot of the top admin people. A LOT are in the 250K plus bracket. Some 480K +. Thta's where the fees go. Not to those who actually teach.

Two points: Why should a foreign student even consider attending British universities when he can study free of charge in Germany where universities are just as good as any other university listed in the Russell Group. Secondly, there is a bias against universities where the media of teaching are other languages than English. Universities of English speaking countries always score higher perhaps because those who conduct the ranking survey hardly speak any other foreign languages. We all live in an English centric world.

tuition fees were first introduced in 2006 at £3000 and went up to £9000 in 6 years, well beyond inflation over the 6 years...

I don't buy loss of EU funding as a reason. Britain was a net contributor, all the EU did, was act as a middle-man for our own funding to pass through. The real reasons are a combination of demographics, foreign competition, poor policy, economic factors, and degrees too often offering poor value and not keeping pace.

Good. The 9K a year is rip off for what they actually provide. I calculated when I was at uni that for every 1 hour of teaching I was paying almost £250 for the privilege. Likewise the amount of bogus degrees worth nothing and international students being passed with fraudulent degrees is abhorrent.

Education should not be a for-profit commodity. It is a public good. But then this country has privatised every other human right so far and they're working on healthcare too so what else would I expect.

"British Universities can't afford to keep opperating with the money they get for UK students and have to make up the difference with politically controversial forigen students who pay the full cost." is literally a Yes Minister script from the 1980s. That show truely never gets old. Just Remember what Sir Humphrey said, Britian needs, "... a system to protect the important things in life, and to keep them out of the hands of the Barabrians. Things like... the Universites. Both of them."

Sounds like bs, Manchester uni has an average of 40,000 students, times that by 9k and theyre making £361,800,000 each year.

A fabulous and comprehensive analysis!! Well done!! I would love to see a similar analysis done for US universities as well ❤

The trajectory for UK universities is looking, in general very bleak. As an academic at a medium-sized university, everything that has been said is enitrley true. Since brexit, the number of international students (EU) has rapidly declined, and the public spending for universities is at an all-time low this century. It is around 15-20% currently, and compared to Germany/France/other EU countries, their respective % is at 60%+. What wasn't mentioned, which I believe should be, are the conditions of academics, and the fact more pressure is being put on teaching and ensuring a strong student satisfication. If this continues, more and more academics will be leaving academia completely, and that will provide a huge-shortage on teaching, and as a result students. As the lack of funding is increase, more is the dependency of international students, and less of a focus on research for academics. I do not think Labour will do much, my honest 2 cents is that public funding will increase (slightly, just) and that tuition fees will go up, it's inevitable.

The introduction of the £9K cap in 2012 sparked considerable controversy, particularly as it was initially intended to apply primarily to prestigious universities. Moreover, it seemed to be motivated by a subtle political maneuver against Clegg, which proved to be quite effective, I must admit.

Useful stuff to know, thank you for making this video

In my experience as a university tutor, I am never surprised that International Students in general do not perform as well as local students. Simple reason is because they don't perform well academically enough to be accepted by their own nation's universities. However, they are able to pay the large fees and as long as the university turns one blind eye to their performance and stamps their degree - everyone is happy. They get their degree and the university gets their cash and any staff who speaks out is going to be silenced very quickly.

Its almost as if Brexit was the world's worst idea..

4:00 There's another point here which rarely gets discussed. Universities are incentivised to bring international students regardless of their ability, meaning any shortfall can frustrate the daily workload of academics by having to find ways to work around low levels of English, critical thinking, and essay writing. Therefore it costs more in the long run, unsurprising considering short-sighted governments are in charge.

Speaking as someone who has worked in the University sector my whole working life I recognise all the things being mentioned here. The sector has expanded massively in my 40 + years, and huge sums have been spent on new buildings to house and teach the huge numbers of students. We are heavily reliant on foreign students now, so if that collapses we are in dire straits.

When "Saying 'the most qualified person should get the job' is a microaggression, Britain's top universities insist" is a thing, you know your educational system is circling the drain...

The fees are still too high, Universities must be wasting huge amounts of money.

LOL 700,000 international students and they're still running short of money. They've been fiddling the standards for years and years. I wrote to BBC Panorama about my experiences teaching pre-sessional courses; they weren't interested because it wasn't PC to say it

Universities should be a social utility, not a business. Education is a society's means of social reproduction. University should be free, period. Universities shouldn't be able to go "bankrupt" because they shouldn't be a profit driven enterprise.

This feels like the episode of Yes Minister where Hacker receives an honorary law degree from Humphreys Uni in exchange for allowing a subsidy for foreign students to remain. More and more I feel that the way to predict the future is to study the past. Because our current politicians can't come up with their own lies and just reuse the old ones.

Easy, when the Government gets cheap and does not pay for education with TAX payers money, and Unis are forced to take in anyone and everyone and they don't pay for their tuition in the end, this is what happens. We pay taxes for a reason, health, education and emergency services, it is about time the Gov't uses such money on these things. Education isn't a business it is to keep working standards up for a reason.

UK also does panel shows well

In Canada as well there was apparently a decrease in government funding (from provinces) for universities and colleges and so universities and colleges responded by greatly increasing the number of foreign students who pay far higher tuition fees than do domestic students. This year there are about 900,000 foreign students in Canada though some estimates have that figure at over a million and there was a government forecast that by the year 2027 that figure would increase to 1.4 million foreign students. I believe that at the University of Toronto for instance Canadian students pay about $10,000 a year and foreign students over $60,000 per year. One thing that became especially apparent early in the pandemic when university courses were shifted online and students and those teaching them were staying home and not even going to campus was that very little of the money paid in course fees by all the students taking a class was going to the professor or lecturer teaching the class and the teaching assistants doing work for the class. If there are 50 foreign students in a U of T course paying $13,000 per course that's $650,000 in tuition fees paid for that course not even including tuition fees paid by Canadian students in the course. The University doesn't pay remotely that amount of money to lecturers and teaching assistants to teach one course. The minimum stipend for a sessional lecturer to teach a course at U of T is about $20,000 and no doubt teaching assistants as well aren't getting rich from what they are paid. Even if a small amount of tuition goes to pay a share of the salaries of the head of the department and the department secretary that still leaves a significant majority of the tuition fees left over. It makes one wonder where the heck all the tuition fees go. Universities might say that they have to spend a lot of money paying staff who do research or to write papers but I don't see why students taking courses should have to contribute to that - their tuition fees should go only towards the service they are receiving which is the courses they are taking. I think that universities in any country should be banned from having foreign student fees more than 50% higher than that of domestic students so that the foreign students who come are picked based on their qualifications, not the wealth of their families or the willingness of their families to risk bankruptcy and poverty by taking out massive loans. Having the best students from around the world instead of the richest is a good way for universities to improve their reputations. And if countries want universities that have a great reputation for research and academic papers then the governments of those countries should provide adequate funding to universities for that work to be done.

A number of people have mentioned that tuition is free in Scotland for Scottish students. However Scottish universities still heavily depend on foreign students as the Scottish government limits its costs by restricting the number of places it funds.

Thank god I live in a country without tuition fees. That is a really stupid idea, since you should train your countries best students to maximise your job markets productivity, not the ones who can pay for it the most, because their parents are rich. It is better to tax the successful then after it to finance it from those that have enough to spare. And before anybody says, that would not create an incentive to finish university, let alone successfully so, I think you are a. leaving in a dream world if you think any student is not keenly aware of wanting to get a good job, but b. that should clearly be managed by tight checks on students progress in an educational sense, not a monetary one. Also, you should have a working non-university model for getting the knowledge for many jobs, which I feel the UK is also lacking. That at least is less a just UK issue, but there are better models out there that function even in our modern world. Heck in Germany there are even hybrid models between learning a trade and going to university, to address the rising need for non-academic, but university level engineering, IT, specialised STEM or business graduates. They have been super successful and are significantly paid for by the companies, just like trades are.

Some important points here about international students: A lot of intl. students came to the UK, because the UK was a connection point to the EU and the US. So even if the way they were treated was shite (high visa prices, being scapegoats when they can’t even vote), it was worth the high price of admission. Now, the UK is isolated. Not only that, they insist on putting a minimum floor for skilled visas (38,000 pounds), which is well in excess of most fields. Which means, most are being kicked out after finishing their education. Not only in broadly useful fields, but also in law and finance. They also get double taxed: NHS surcharge is in excess of 1000 pounds per year, on top of paying for national insurance. So… a person earning 38,000 pounds is paying taxes like they are earning 48,00 pounds. So, looking at those circumstances… why would an international student want to study in the UK?

9k GBP is cost of a poor city college in the US.

The b b c is not for direct entry, that was for pathway course. Which is known as foundation year before getting into main course. And if student can't secure certain mark typically 2:1 they do not get progression into main course. So that doesn't affect domestic students.

This important video needs to be broadcast all over the internet. Lots of people need to understand this right now. No politician can fix this issue no matter what they promise without raising home student fees and bringing in more foreign students regardless of how the UK hates immigration apparently. If not then expect university closures, simple as that.

They're going bankrupt because I told them to

As someone who works at a university; thank you for covering this and saying it exactly how it is. It is utter non-sense to try and bring down migration, but targeting people who are literally only here for a few years and very few actually want to stay for longer.

I completed a bachelor's degree in UK as an Intl fees paying student. Then I moved to Findland to do a Master's degree. In Finland then (2011) it was tuition free. Finland universities pay their teachers and research students better and higher salaries, the Universities are better equiped with all modern,new,state of the art equipments. Notice that,they do all of that in Finland while charging no fees but the UK universities that would charge the HIGHEST fees in Europe are going broke. They spend so much money in UK on buildings. In the UK they have all these futuristic buildings on campuses whereas in Finland you can walk pass a University and not even realise it is a University but when you walk into the University then you get the BEST, MOST MODERN of books and equipments.

Universities shouldn´t be run as businesses, they are institutions that are supposed to be dedicated to research and education. Increasingly universities are a con, they charge exorbitant fees, they treat postdocs like absolute shit (i.e not offering stable positions, rotating people under the guise of "mobility") and in many countries lecturers get paid an absolute joke wage. It´s ludicrous, pre-Thatcher, even the Tories didn´t have this mentality that literally everything has to be run like a business. I also hate Erasmus, the idea that a brief stint on an "international" campus will teach you anything about the country you are living in is absolutely bonkers. It´s a waste of money, it´s more an initiative to sell the EU than to do anything actually useful in academic terms.

The "business model" of universities is changing, the landscape is becoming more competitive internationally and domestically combined with rising costs and over expansion leads to (not for profit) universities losing money.

Average EU tuition fees: Free for EU/EEA students at undergraduate level (with a fee of €3,000 for student services); from €9,750 (~US$11,400) per year for non-EU students at undergraduate level. From €4,000 year for EU postgraduate students, and from €4,000 (~US$4,700) per year for non-EU students at postgraduate level. The number of EU students choosing to study in the UK has dropped by half since Brexit, according to new official figures. Data from the Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) shows that enrollments by EU nationals dropped by 53%: from 64,120 students in 2020/21 to just 31,400 in 2021/22.

As a us citizen I find this conversation interesting. Because we are the complete opposite side of the spectrum, with just passing on the debts/insolvency to the students. Harvard and yales endowments combined are the same GDP as Luxembourg or Guatemala.

"Arrow goes up" is an interesting choice for a thumbnail about bankruptcies :D

50% of 18 year olds going to university was never a sustainable model. It was only done to reduce the headline figure for unemployment. The result has been a lowering of standards and a massive debt burden on those who go. When it was 10% not only were universities free, but you could get a grant to go. Furthermore the degree you got at the end made you sought after, with employers falling over themselves with job offers. At least that was my experience when I went in the 70s.

Most of my friends now do uni online, one dropped out of hall and the other dropped out of Surrey, they now do their studies in there room and buy the equipment they need off Amazon

This is absolutely spot on!

All because of populism and the people not having a clue about how to run a country 😡

i love my uni, im passing fine (obviously brain surgery would be harder than what im doing) and my uni it does amazing work. but damn...you do NOT get your moneys worth. it could be online, theyred be no difference that i could see. most lectures are just a dude stood there for 3 hour lecture thats one pre made powerpoint from 5 years ago (with errors that must be corrected live and explained how the course has changed since, because up to date stuff and learning materials is too hard?) and we all go home anyway to do the work. you dont do it AT the uni. again, you CAN use the huge libary that probably cost half the money to fund. but its useless...everythings digital from books to online hand ins....hmm....seems like a rip off from what i can tell....and im enjoying it ffs its just shocking whats happened to unis being dragged down to the point they can barely teach properly, let alone be worth the price of entry.

I graduated from UAL last year. Universities are corrupt and broken. We need universities to collapse to make way for a better system that’s free and promotes actual knowledge exchange and shared learning.

Tuition fees came in in England in the early 2000s at £1000 py increasing to £3000py and then jumped to £9k per year.