The 11th hidden thing, the biggest thing is that its total ASS compared to the Chinese version from 2 years ago that actually did not change the award winning story. Hollywood is producing low quality garbage and the masses just accept it.

The main body problem was the ship was too big for the river.

Agreed

Raj running to Auggie saying "Why isn't it working?!" thinking she sabotaged it and Auggie both placid and grim saying "It is" was so chilling. She hated that it was being used for that, but her invention was successful.

@@kas7145 I loved that, I thought she had sabotaged it too but when she said that it sent chills down me

😅😅😂😂

Same! My fav part too.

Also, the whole situation he was in resembles Josef's situation in Kafka's The Trial. He was "kidnapped" and had no idea what was going on, and to his questions they only answered: "We don't know". He was free, but at the same time he wasn't.

Monty Python: "I'm not the Messiah!" "He is the Messiah!!"

So funny how those were smirking as in, wow he's really taking this seriously. Sure buddy, you're not a wallfacer winkwink.

Well said. All I would say, you have no idea.

they did such a good job with Ye. her actions were unforgivable, and yet you could understand her reasons, her rage, her grief. when you put yourself into her shoes she was almost justified, and i think she truly thought the trisolarans would treat mankind more fairly than it had treated itself (and she might be right). she was ultimately a very sympathetic character.

@@seraphik Haven't read the books, so I don't know how it'll end, but yes. I love how this character _really_ makes you think. Was she right to put humanity on the line? Does any one individual have the right to make that choice? Yes, maybe they will treat Earth better, but how could she possibly know? Would I make the same choice? Great stuff. A lot of characters I feel were mostly set up for things to come. Hers, as her arc (seems to) end here, really got fleshed out. And I think they did a good job.

@@bakkels Ye is a poor person in the book who has experienced a lot of abuse and persecution. She has endured many moments of despair and witnessed the dark side of humanity, yet she still wants to find ways to make the world and humans better instead of simply resorting to hatred or destruction. On the other hand, Santi, a civilization who has never grasped the concept of 'lie' and holds more advanced technology, is seen as more noble and capable of helping humanity improve. This is why Ye thinks humankind cannot solve their problems alone and has called on Santi for assistance. The character is more complex and admirable in the book.

The first book is also quite slow-paced. The second speeds up quite a bit. The third goes lightspeed.

Same! I thought wills story was just to have a sad moment without any real repercussions but boy was I wrong

@@angelaguilar1795 glad you agree🙏

It was a hard drive that somehow had the storage capacity for a 100 petabyte file

Yes I thought it was a nice symbolic nod that it was red

🤔

The books are genius. The show was okay, but could've been better

@@nickelcobalt2966 I didn’t read them. I bet they are good.

The netflix did not faithfully follow books, better the tencent version . But, netflix have condensed episode… if you dont have many time, watch this .

No. Show was bad. They botched up the reveal that Ye ws the commander of ETO by showing her eniter flash back(her calling the trisolarans) first. They had unlikeable characters, too much melodrama and fillers for a show which was supposed to be high on concepts and science. Glad I was right about the Netflix and read the book first even though I have never read a novel in my life.

The show is great and that scene might look impressive, but still a dumb and quite sadistic decision

aka Operation Guzheng. (Chinese Zither, which is a stringed instrument much like the nanofibre)

@@sidewinder2057 it plays out better in the book. The reason they had to do it this way was to retrieve the hard drive while not letting the ETO (Evans’ group) that they were being attacked. The show portrayed it a bit slowly to increase the tension,and at that speed he could’ve easily destroyed the hard drive. In the book it happens much faster without anyone of them realizing what was happening, which is the point

But how could they ensure the harddrive survive undamaged? They ruled out other destructive options and then that?

@@HolgerNestmann you are correct that they couldn't 100% guarantee they won't destroy it, but they spaced the nanofibers enough that it was highly unlikely. They addressed this in the books too that it wasn't a perfect plan but it was the best one given the circumstances

Something has been bothering me since I first watched the show. I can’t seem to find the answer. Maybe I missed a scene or something. The question is, when Dr. Ye (the woman that made the first contact with Aliens), a “good” alien told her not to contact them because the aliens will kill mankind. Then the show made it seem like the aliens only made that decision to kill the mankind only after finding out mankind can lie. However, hints were placed throughout the story that even before the aliens found out humans can lie, they were already planning on killing humans. Examples: killing scientist and not letting scientist further their experiments. Also it was funny how they only found out humans can lie after the conversation with Evan’s because they were able to see everything from the beginning. So that means they know humans can lie before the crucial conversation. Can anyone answer my questions? Much appreciated.

Your answer lies with the next book titled Dark Forrest. It’s a theory about 3 possibilities for reactions if one was to hear a breaking of a tree branch in dead silence and pitch black. One would either stay silent, attack, or be attacked. The santi’s reaction is similar to someone that heard a sound and not knowing who or what made it, yells back don’t come any closer or I’ll fight back. However after making contact and communication, it’s realized that they can’t co exist with us and with the resources needed for their survival it is an easy decision to just annihilate us, civilizations must consider other side are either malevolent or benevolent in consideration of attack or not, and so on and so forth leading to decision tree.

@@mtc343 Before santis figured out that humans have instinct of lying! they were planning to coexist with humans! They were killing scientists because they were afraid if humans evolve more in terms of technology they might not let us live with them But when they found out about lying! They made a decision that its impossible to live with them They can only survive if they kill humans!

Read the book or watch the Tencent version you'll find more interesting comparison.

'Here til the lights go out' ooof

I hope someone will finally make the Drizzt Do Urdan series

Sorry, but Denis Villeneuve's Dune sucked balls. It is a terrible adaptation. That said, 3 body problem is a breath of fresh air.

I want to see a malazan book of the fallen screen adaptation so bad

Check out, 'From'. You're welcome.

Shogun too.

The story in the books happens in a different order, you'd want to start with book 1. But the show is blending it together in a cool way so far

the show loosely follows the books, but its absolutely worth reading them. A lot more stuff jam packed in the books, that this show barely touches.

I’ve read the trilogy twice and all I can say is forget the characters in the Netflix series so it doesn’t mess with what your understanding from the books. Read them, you must, for you’re in for a wonderful ride! Enjoy!

Who was Conleth?!

@@judson8441 the pope in the Level 3 game

*Jonathan* Pryce, mate!

What about it?

You'll need to read the third book Death's End@@alfonso704

In the boo wade's fish die

​@@alfonso704 It's the final creature living from this universe.

We are the fish from the sea. But the sea has dried out.

Good theory 😉 What forms of life do we currently know about that are capable of surviving harsh conditions, even space itself?

According to the spin off book "Redemption of Time". Yun Tianming mentions that they actually look like small insects

It's a theory but one that is "accepted" enough by Cixin Liu that he allowed a book to be published about it. It's the most plausible thing since the Trisolaris planet must be very small after billions of years getting crushed and eroded by the gravitational pull of its 3 stars.

@@ArchiveRagtagMoe water bears are also very small and we know they're capable of surviving in the vacuum of space itself. We also get a nod with the 💧

Tartigrades.

Read the book! Highly recommend!

Something has been bothering me since I first watched the show. I can’t seem to find the answer. Maybe I missed a scene or something. The question is, when Dr. Ye (the woman that made the first contact with Aliens), a “good” alien told her not to contact them because the aliens will kill mankind. Then the show made it seem like the aliens only made that decision to kill the mankind only after finding out mankind can lie. However, hints were placed throughout the story that even before the aliens found out humans can lie, they were already planning on killing humans. Examples: killing scientist and not letting scientist further their experiments. Also it was funny how they only found out humans can lie after the conversation with Evan’s because they were able to see everything from the beginning. So that means they know humans can lie before the crucial conversation. Can anyone answer my questions? Much appreciated.

@@mtc343 That's a tricky one. Their ability to interfere and observe us is limited. They are indeed able to see us but not necessarily interprete. The sophons are too busy jamming our science. They can't really follow random people talking and check if they are telling the truth. There are two sophons here. They can't be everywhere everytime. Basically, to check wheater someone is lying or not would require a lot of observation and they don't have time for that. Which is why they try to communicate with humans and understand us. Now, about the scientists. I will give you some spoilers now because I assume you don't care about them, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this question: They kill scientists because it was necessary. Later in the book 2 we see that it is impossible for two civilizations to peacefully engage. Because the time they need to phisically meet is enough for the one of them (or both of them) to improve their technology and fight because both societies would finally fear being extinct. It's the fear of the unknown. The fear of the dark. In the end of the day, it would always be a matter of who will pull the trigger first. How to trust your life to a species you don't really know? The San-ti don't want us to have a trigger to pull. And killing some scientist is the only way to do it.

@mtc343 Hi, I've read the trilogy and watched this first season. You're right when you assume the Santi have known about the deceitful nature of humans for a long time before the events of the show. Their conversation with Evans where they seem to learn for the first time that humans do lie came as confusing for many of the viewers bc it seemed obvious that they couldn't not be aware of that fundamental human trait given how many years they'd been communicating with us. But at the same time, D&D had to find a way to let the viewers know the very important fact that the Santi are unable to lie/deceive (one could argue they could've done that in a better way, and i'd agree). If we want to understand the Evans-Santi scene in a more reasonable way, we could just say thay the Santi had obviously always planned to kill most of humans during their conquest of Earth, but perhaps not all of them, as some could decide to pledge complete and willful allegiance to the Santi upon their arrival on Earth and be useful to them. But this quite artificial 'revelation' of the human ability to lie served as a way to show that the Santi are just as afraid of us (if not more) as we are of them, and that our inherent deceitfulness made even the most fanatic Santi supporter look extremely dangerous to them, leading the Santi to vow to exterminate ALL of us.

​​@@mtc343You know the a.i trying to adapt and learn right that's why it keeps questioning the things he cant fully understand and the way how humans think

@@mtc343 Also worth remembering it is an alien AI created and programmed by beings who may perceive the universe in radically different ways to us - it may have taken them decades to finally grasp the revelation of deceit in context - The Evans conversation may have just been the last straw

It's in league with the white mice

No way! She over acted every single scene! She was definitely the weakest part of the show!

@@sunilsolanki speaking for yourself. lol she’s amazing

​@@sunilsolankiMy view on her too.

​@@GR_Papiyou speak for yourself. She indeed overacted Evey scene and her character was unlikeable throughout.

@@user-qv2mx4yo1m you sure have a lot to say on here and none of it is very positive that i have seen. having a bad day girl?

Agreed, idk why they changed that but they shouldn't have

Agree but I’d swap the roles of the Chinese general and the Middle Eastern woman; she’s clearly the expert on guerrilla/asymmetric warfare; and they left out the neuroscientist probably to avoid adapting the complicated mental seal plot line.

@@commentator-tl9h But avoiding the mental seal line would be very difficult as it leads directly to Natural Selection plot line, and then to Blue Space, and then to the ending stuff. They might introduce it without it being a wallfacers plan though.

Maybe the missing wallfacer is awol, lol.

@@mikhalin977 That's a good point. the AWOL ideology can totally be carried out by Raj line.

What’s that from ?

@@thegroomingbabe1325BBC's 1982-84 MASTERPIECE Classic series "The Young Ones"! With Blackadder, it's the UK''s finest. ("OH, GOD! I REALLY MUST STOP SNORTING THIS AJAX!! ANYWAY... Where was I? Oh, yes... VIRGIN!!!"

I had the same reaction: it was a nod to Soylent Green.

The “Pacifist” said that though

It certainly was an amazing scene, but Turing was not mentioned in the book. I think you are confusing him with Von Neumann.

@@lumbarsupportyou’re right, good call

Qin Shi Huang in the book was swapped with the more recognisable but less appropriate genghis khan though!

Something has been bothering me since I first watched the show. I can’t seem to find the answer. Maybe I missed a scene or something. The question is, when Dr. Ye (the woman that made the first contact with Aliens), a “good” alien told her not to contact them because the aliens will kill mankind. Then the show made it seem like the aliens only made that decision to kill the mankind only after finding out mankind can lie. However, hints were placed throughout the story that even before the aliens found out humans can lie, they were already planning on killing humans. Examples: killing scientist and not letting scientist further their experiments. Also it was funny how they only found out humans can lie after the conversation with Evan’s because they were able to see everything from the beginning. So that means they know humans can lie before the crucial conversation. Can anyone answer my questions? Much appreciated.

​@@mtc343 they trusted the ETO and honestly thought that the ETO would help them conquer (they say conquer, not destroy, not kill) earth human. After finding out about human ability to lie, they don't trust ETO anymore. In fact, ETO could have been lying all the time to lure them. Thus, they have to abandon ETO and develop new strategy from scratch (recruiting Wade, etc.) with the help of the established Sophon.

It varies. For Jin, it was delivered by Wenjie, for Jack it was Tatiana. For all the toehr scientists in the summit , someone else could have delivered the headsets since the ETO had a wide network for doing things and they were scientists from other parts of the world. And since they're dead , for Tatiana we do not know who dropped the headset yet.

"I think we are at war". I think Raj will follow Beihai's action.

It was first to time for Mike Evans to see her daughter in person.

You really should use some kind of spoiler warning.

It's hinted it might be Auggie Salazar

@@mwansamatimba2750 Auggie is Wang Miao

@@Kaister007 Apparently, Xing Cheng also plays the character of Wang. The Netflix show broke the character of Wang into Auggie, Will, Saul, and Jack. There's chance Auggie will play a role towards the end of the series. In season 1 she is not a important character near the end. Though she does have a close relationship with Cheng Xing.

The tencent version only mentions Cheng Xing by Wang. This could be another hint, that they do some major role towards the end.

@@mwansamatimba2750I wonder if Auggie’s AA…? Would make sense tho since Auggie and Jin are bffs

Who is the scene between ?

@@thegroomingbabe1325 Droplet

This is the defect caused by the expression of the film, the first "good" alien is actually a different kind of Santi, in the book it soon stopped work of obtaining signals intelligence, as for the part of lies, the book has a more detailed explanation, Santi from the beginning is intended to seize the Earth, just some human on the Earth wishful thinking that the Santi brings peace, Therefore, the lie part is not introduced through the story, it never is, but after the appearance of the wallfacer man project, the aliens start to understand that Earth people have lies, the adaptation of the TV series omits many details

It was confusing for me too but my guess is that their hostility was not present before finding out that humans can lie. They sent Sophon to stiffly humanity’s technological progress just to prevent their own destruction by future humans. Co-existence was probably still an option until THAT conversation happened. For the second question I have no answer. How did they not find out that humans could lie with a near omnipresent super duper computer monitoring practically everything on Earth for MONTHS.

I think the "finding out mankind can lie" is more a problem for the ETO (Earth Tri-Solaran Organisation). The San-Ti was almost certainly always gonna invade and kill us all, but they learnt that they probably shouldn't put too much trust in the human traitors...

I've read your statements three times yet can't find your question. But to clarify your confusion, it is not the trisolarians that created the idea that they would spare us but the ETO themselves. The trisolarians, in the first place, plan to eradicate humans to a point that we'll never be a threat to them. In the books, they let humans "live".

@@ArchiveRagtagMoe you are right, and they made that decision based on observation of human behavior.