He was but leonard clearly stop him ...and he knows it u can tell how mad he is in that interview

Sugar Ray won.

@@platano3000x Sugar avoided a rematch and smart enough to stay away!

@@Jimmyjohnson1985 He did! Although he ran from rematch request!

@@mmjaljs i agree he should of do the rematch ..just de la hoya and trinidad

What difference does hair, clothes, or tattoos make?

@@elijahthurston4000no need to look different to be different…you stand out by what’s inside not what’s outside

Classy & professional boxers. Yet warriors as well. So nostalgic.

​@elijahthurston4000 u heard the saying that Clothes make the man

@@daveyboy_ I have not I might be too young for that one

Well said... I still say Hagler won that fight. I've watched it several times and scored it for Hagler and even scored it a draw.

Let some people tell it, Leonard whipped Hagler's ass. Others say Leonard outclassed him clearly. Yourself, me and others say otherwise that Hagler won. ​@@mrray6983

​@@mrray6983Strange how that happens. I've watched it at least a dozen times and scored it a draw 2 times and 10 for Hagler but I never scored all of the rounds consistently. Strange fight. I guess all we can say now is RIP Marvelous we love you and miss you.

Especially Since He Didn't Win The First Fight Against The Greatest Fighter Of AllTime Marvelous Haglar. 👍

He didn't beat him even once.

Damn straight. 👍

💯

Marvin Hagler should be very angry.

Sore loser, that's all.

Aye...and he had every reason to be...having his belt stolen from him w/that BS decision win.

can't blame him, i hate Ray.

Of course Ray was the Golden boy very marketable, personable, well spoken...but lost!

...and we know why.

U crazy this man was not scared 😂😂

​@@JovhonteFirstOfHisName Stevie Wonder could see that Ray was scared. Stop being delusional

Ray only won paper he def lost that fight the same with the rematch with hearns its sickening that they tried to made hagler out like the big bad villain when he was a gentlemen and leonard like the golden boy

Ray the smaller man Hagler shouldn't have let it go that way

there is nothing classy about ray here. what if duran had refused him a rematch? ray is a hypocrite and not a good person at all.

@@jamescaleb9676 I feel you. But Ray said they both agreed it was one fight and one fight only and Marvin didn't dispute it. Square business

@@This2dumb what do you mean he didn't dispute it? hagler chased Leanord for a year trying to get a rematch.

@@jamescaleb9676 did you watch the interview? Marvin never said that they didn't agree to a one and done after Sugar said it. He wouldn't have had to chase him for the rematch if a rematch was in the contract....

@@This2dumb ray did NOT retire after this. he sat out until hagler was firmly retired and then much later he said he wanted to fight hagler again. hagler had been sitting around not training, was old, and was acting so he said no. basically, ray only wants to fight if everything is in his favor. he was shameless that way. I'll fight you but everything has to be in my favor and then if i win i'll say its because i'm so much better than you and i would win everytime no matter waht etc etc. this childish nonsense works everytime on gullible boxing fans.

All this show Was fix,

Marvin Hagler best Leonard, He landed More Punches than Leonard and He dominated the Fight!!. , I agree. Leonard didn't want a Rematch because He knew Hagler would beat him again and knock him out this Time!!😀🥊🥊👍

YUP.

Yep Ray knew . Wish the Marvelous one was still here.

Just like all his rematches

@@Keaweahe Yup Hagler avenged all his loses or draw in rematch, with wins by knockout. I believe even though he was at the end , he would’ve floored Leonard in the rematch.

@@alfredmcglothen6050 Leonard is great, but i think hagler could have beat him in that fight. He was messing around trying to outbox ray orthadox, when he should have just fought it like a hagler rematch or like the first duran fight.

He didn't need a tuneup 1st time around ! Srl is a coward !

@@anz2441 nah brotha sugar beat him faire and square

@@Killer_Saul444 ray shoeshine lol..that fight was a draw ! Shoulda been a rematch.

​​@@anz2441This is reminding me of Rocky and Apollo: "There Ain't gonna be a rematch"x2 "Don't want one!" 😂 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mY9hl6KpjJmLyqc.htmlsi=hGKaAjOiboj8mofY

@@JPatelLive Ray knew that inna rematch, MMH would get smaller ring and come for blood. Hagler shoulda pushed for rematch without ray getting belt's 1st. MMH was true champ !!

Yeah, I love Ray but after hearing his plan behind his first win to duran & how he waited until the right time for Hagler made me not look at him the same. He's still an amazing skilled fighter & one of the greatest but I just can't see in the same as I did before.

@@Bankai_Musashi1 💯 still my fave fighter after Ali, and Robinson. To me he had all the talent to beat them all and indeed he did, but I think he became too much of a businessman towards the end and it made him look slightly cowardly. When I think he was just trying to play hard to get, just to get a bigger bag.

Leonard tried to get Hagler to agree to a rematch, but Marvin refused.

@@b1j1b1 stop lying, Marvin never would've refused boy

exactly, seems like for MANY years after that fight Hagler wouldve said yes to smash Rays face in. he really wanted to hurt Ray for all the trolling shit he did @@Bankai_Musashi1

i didnt think it was close at all -- leonard refused the champioship length match - insisted on a ballroom sized ring -- and did just that -- 90% of his punches were pitty pat trash -- plus he was exhausted at the end of the fight - hagler would have smushed him in the last 3 rounds of a 15 rounder -- the idea that some gave leonard 10 rounds is ridiculous -- no way sugar ray rabbit won that fight - i quit watching boxing altogether after that --

@@jimnagel5611 If you notice in their fight Leonard done weak ass flurry punches last few seconds of the rounds to catch the judges eye.. Haglar won IMO

Hagler won the fight.

indeed - i've watched it start to finish 3 times & i have no idea how anyone could even say it was close -- leonard ran away from him the entire fight -- you dont take a guy like haglers crown from him like that -- now if leonard had run & beat him up like ali used to that would be different -- nothing close to that happened -- he just ran - worst robbery in boxing i ever saw@@jerrycoleman6910

@@Trooper101stcorrect, the judges remember the last 30 seconds leaves an impression on them

Hagler was wound tightly. If it wasn't Leonard annoying him it woulda been someone else.

Ain't that the truth! Hablar got his chance and blew it. Nobody's fault but his.

@@brocklanders3616Not his fault that the judges were incompetent and didn’t know how to score fights lmao

You don't WTF you're talking about! Don't know sh1t about boxing. Hagler as the best middleweight of all time? GTFOH!! Ever heard of Sugar Ray Robinson? Ever heard of Harry Greb? Ever heard of Jake LaMotta? Ever heard of Bernard Hopkins? Ever heard of Roy Jones Jr? Hagler is not even top-5 all time. Hagler was great, no doubt. But Hagler was also sour grapes by his own hand. Hagler is the one who agreed, without any need to, and allow Ray Leonard to have all the advantages before the fight in 1987: bigger glove size, less rounds (from 15 to 12) and much bigger ring size. Hagler thought he could beat Leonard no matter what. And that hubris cost him the title. And the saddest part: Hagler complained about the decision the rest of his life! Joke!! Hagler should have not agreed to any advantages to Leonard and he would have won the fight. Hagler's fault and he couldn't admit to it!

It was a brilliance strategy all around. Ray challenged Hagler after a brutal fight vs Mugabi that took a lot out of Hagler. He was 32 years old, already had 66 fight to Leonards 35. He requested a bigger ring and made sure to use every inch of it.

What about Sugar Ray Robinson and Carlos Monzon?

Ray Robinson number one.​@@joekavanagh7171

@@joekavanagh7171 I typed the same thing, but he deleted that comment. What a sore loser!

Finally!!! someone who knows what they were looking at, thank you!!! SR out punched him, out boxed, IMO it wasn't close, the split decision was a joke, they didn't want to embarrass Hagler I suppose, nobody throws them hands like the sugar man.

Ray outboxed him yes but who landed the harder punches ? who was the more agressive fighter ? I think Ray was barely standing at the end of the fight. Both were champions that night.

@@toxicepsilon6318 Subjective reasoning won't help Hagler, nobody...I mean nobody, throw them hands like the sugar man

Hagler lost the fight in the first 5 rounds. He created a hill to big to climb without a knockdown or knockout.

Because he won

@@b1j1b1 Exactly my point.

Because you are a feeble man and not powerful like hacker therefore you back the man who hit and ran

Amen...... i guess thr people who says Hagler won ,are the ones who see pressure as more important than clean punches......i simpatize with hagler because he didnt get his rematch.......and for me is a stain in Leonard career,because he got his rematch with Duran and knew how important it was........he was definitely scared of hagler.......

Leonard tried to make the rematch. Hagler wasn't interested. @@lelloz7444

Leonard finished Hearns & Bentiez in the 14 rd & fought Duran to a standstill over 15 rds. Hagler gassed & only managed a draw with Antufermo over 15 rds then he made hard work of scraping past a faded but tricky Duran over 15 rds. Theres a very good reason why Hagler wanted no part of Leonard over 15 rds.

@@SPIDERM0OSE Vito Antuofermo was his 1st championship fight, Vito was a tough cookie no shame in both these guys fighting to a standstill. Against RD he just waited till he was sure he was safe to step on the gas and overpower him. Over 15 rounds RL would have been there, he was a monster in the ring, I think MMH would get to him eventually or just grind him down like RD.

@@SPIDERM0OSE I’m very aware of that, but those other guys, were at welterweight, and Leonard was younger. Leonard was spent after that 12 round fight. I’m not taking anything away from Leonard who won the fight.

@@TomLyden-dt2ey Yer living in dream land talking about fights you obviously never seen, at least not when they happened. Duran NEVER, not in any of their 3 fights even came close to grinding Leonard down & only their first fight went 15 rds in which Duran won a VERY CLOSE decision, every round was razor close & every rd was action packed. Not ONCE in his entire career did Hagler show the ability to perform at that level of intensity over 15 rds, & I cited his gas failure vs Vito at the championship level & now Im gonna cite his gas tank spluttering vs the big unbeaten Venezuelan "Obel" first time around, he won, he stopped him but he didnt look good doing it, those who kno, KNOW. Im not saying Hagler had suspect stamina, Im saying that Leonard PROVED, time & time again, that over 15 rounds there isnt a champion in any era who could out fight him, something Hagler failed to PROVE. He waited vs Duran because he was in danger of getting EMBARRASSED. He prepared for one guy & another guy showed up. Duran was being tricky, timing him n countering him & Hagler tasted those hands of stone & knew he was in bother. It was tactically & technically a very good fight by both men but it was the debut of CRAFTY VETERAN Duran, it wasn't the demonic, unholy terror who unified the LW Title then moved up n destroyed former champ Polomino then fought Leonard to a standstill. It wasn't even the Duran who lost a decision to Benitez. The Duran who got the decision over Leonard was the absolute best version of Duran that we ever seen & that guy maybe finishes Hagler over 15 rds. That guy puts Hearns on the back foot like Hagler did n maybe even gets him outa there in 3 like Hagler did, that guy was a DEMON, but that isnt the guy who Hagler went the distance with n had to work like hell to get there against, it was a slower more calculated less devastating version of Duran. Over 15 rds, you have to start talking about Sugar Ray Robinson if yer gonna start speculating about who could maybe beat Leonard, & ONLY Sugar Ray Robinson.

@@AJMPOPS Leonard was gassed after 6 rds in that fight, Hagler was gassed after 9 rds. Leonard beat Hagler with pure heart, skill & ring-craft. An active, match fit Leonard with no ring rust gets Hagler outa there over 15 rds & he proved as much in their 12 rd fight & he proved as much vs UNDEFEATED, reigning champions Benitiz & Hearns. Sugar Ray Leonard is unrivalled since his first to his last title on the p4p list, only Roy Jones even gets close to entering the conversation but Roy never fought in a 15 rdr. Leonard is top 3 all time, & he is #1 in the modern era (since 1980) which arguably makes him #1 ALL TIME.

Ray was afraid to lose. True. But let's be honest, Hagler had the chance to beat Ray. He had him in front of him and didnt go smash him. In fact, Hagler looked lost in the ring at times. So, dont complaint later, he should have gone to knock out Ray but I think he felt Ray could hurt him. So, just take the lost and thats it.

@@wilberduran9410Ray could hurt Hagler?? He’d break his fists before that 😂

And Duran.

Leonard was stinging him with every combination & stopping him in his tracks, otherwise Hagler woulda walked through him n Haglered him. There was no Pitty Patting, it was a masterclass of combination punching & ringcraft.

Hagler was robbed

​@@rayhall6520you're blind

​@@SPIDERM0OSE all factual, and people forget that Ray took Hagler's best shots, went up a weight class and had no tune up.

@@renzopeterson153 I watched that fight over 100 times ….Hagler won that fight

Agreed. I generally like Sugar...but when it comes to his equation with Hagler...I loath Sugar's "victory". It was complete BS.

I'm convinced Ray believes he won the fight. I believe so too.

@@Boxing_Gamer I think that the majority doesn't agree with you, Sugar or those corrupt judges. Reading the comments here on this page alone shows this.

@@BrotherPatriot punch stat agrees with me though 😂 those numbers are quite alot more reliable than fuming internet fanboys

@@Boxing_Gamer You are correct wrt the scoring shots landed. We all love Marvin due to his story and the great nights he gave us. I believe people's opinions on Sugar are clouded because of the nature of the win. I.e him fighting on the back foot for the majority of the fight. If he stood in the centre toe-to-toe from round 1 to 12 then there would be more acceptance of the decision. Sugar would receive more respect. Compare this Tommy Hearns. Despite Marvin blasting him out, no one ever looked down on him after this defeat. Partly due to the fact that he went to war with Marvin.

Biggest robbery in history? Have you watched boxing if you think that was the biggest robbery? Biggest exaggeration

It was a robbery straight up

Did you watch the video, he looked him in the eye and called him a bad sport.

@@emmanuelguzman7868 it cant be a robbery, just a hard fight to score. some people ive seen had 118-110 scorecards for both. i gave it to hagler 116-112. But no blame on people thinking leonard won

People talk all this shit about Mayweather but he immediately rematched any fight someone thought he lost

Hagler...didn't deserve to lose his belt to patty cake flurry of blows that did zero damage at the end of those last few rounds...other than to apparently, sway the judges. Had it gone 15 rounds...Sugar would have been laid out.

Hearns verse Leonard 2 was a draw so I agree

@@BrotherPatriot It has nothing to do with "deserve" the rules of boxing applies to Hagler as well as everybody else. If a judge puts apart the rules because he thinks a boxer doesnt deserve to lose that way, he shouldnt be a judge. Ray beat Hagler according to the RULES OF BOXING, which do not state anywhere that a champ should win just because he is the champ and the agressor in the fight.

@@Boxing_Gamer It was well known for a long time back in the past...that to beat the Champion you had to definitively beat them. Then...things changed and BS like this began to reign. Hence the world we now live in. No...Sugar didn't deserve that win...in the opinion of many of us and to even think that boxing isn't corrupt...well, History proves to us that it is. Hagler didn't deserve to lose his belt...Sugar managed to get his "conditions" put into the fight (12 rounds instead of 15, a big ring to run in, etc.). Had the fight gone 15 rounds as a champion fight is supposed to be, Sugar would have been laid out. Why didn't Sugar do a rematch? Yeah...we know why and so does he.

@@BrotherPatriot doesn't matter, unwritten rules are not real rules. Leonard beat him fair and square.

What happened was he really a bad guy or something.?

@@norvelwhite3811 I wouldn't say bad guy... not very social, case in point in the early 2000s I went to the Boxing Hall of Fame in New York it's a very intimate event from Johnny Tapia to the Spinks Brothers Winky Wright they are there to take pictures shake hands whatever when marvelous entered the room people would call his name forget about requesting an autograph most Fighters are there to take pictures with the individuals he wouldn't even look in anyone's Direction, from black, white young or old well at least he was consistent. I recall sitting at the bar by Leon Spinks he offered to buy me a drink ( he was giving my Filipino girlfriend a hard time she was scared of him he's a character) I said nah I got you OG paid for the drink & walked away

Was he rude to you or did he only make you lose money lol

Yeah

If Hearns don't fight another stupid strategy. Use his length a box more. He was punched out after one round. Their fight is so overrated. One great round followed by 2 rounds of Hearns being a punching dummy.

If it was agreed in the contracts. Eg wilder vs fury. Usyk vs AJ. Anything else is the fighters prerogative.

Not always. With multiple belts with multiple challengers, it would be hard to do so without having your belt(s) stripped.

Agreed

Yes and it's one of the reasons Mayweather stayed undefeated, he took every little advantage he could get. No way he would have accepted a bigger ring, bigger gloves and 12 rounds, like Hagler did. But Hagler had to say yes because Leonard was the only big money fight out there.

He never took him lightly however...he gave ray a big ring, big gloves and 12 rnds...he lost this fight in that regard. I saw a draw !

@@anz2441 lol that’s taking him lightly. He was the champion. He was joking about Ray on the tonight show with Johnny Carson . Came out orthodox in the beginning of the fight.

@@johnny6610 Ego plays into it yes...all u need to know is this, after srl beat hearns in 81...he went 5-3 ! He lost to hearns 2nd time no doubt. That record post 81 hearns fight is pathetic !!

That’s usually how it works when one guy wants to avenge a loss

Most credible observers thought Hagler won, and while it was a big spectacle and a good fight, it was nowhere near being a great fight, let alone one of the greatest fights in history. They were both legends, but by 1987 they were both past their primes, and Leonard demanded an extra large ring and extra padded gloves knowing he was going to run for 12 rounds and throw flurries of pitter-patter punches in the last 30 seconds to try and steal rounds. Hagler was slow and Leonard was always defensive. Now if they had met around 1983 and Leonard never had a detached retina, THAT probably would have been a great fight. However, Leonard never wanted to move up in weight to fight Hagler when Hagler was on top of his game, and to be fair, Hagler never wanted to move up to fight Michael Spinks either, who was undefeated king of the 175 lb class by then.

Yes, Tim Ryan

I'd say Tim Ryan is one of the most underrated sports announcers ever.

Marvin never boxed somebody like Leonard, he never learned how to cut the ring off. Fight only got close because Sugar Ray got gassed fighting at that weight

Robbery

Sugar came up in weight, let's not forget the long layoff he had. Hagler only stayed at middle weight, he never challenged a light heavy weight like a Michael Spinks, Matthew Saad Muhammad or others. Leonard, Hearns, Duran and Benitez all challenged themselves at heavier weights. Hagler never did. He was an all time great middleweight. The true greats move up in weight and are successful. Sugar Ray Leonard will always be an all time great in my book. He outsmarted Hagler, that's it.!!!!

​@@frankbishop9115lol hagler at his worst let him pick the ring and glove size and every other detail Sugar ray leonard at his best went toba controversial décision against the worst version of hagler and he shamelessly ran away from the rematch What a rat

15 round fights were going away by that time. Haglers fights vs Mugabi and Hearns were scheduled for 12 rounds.

Ray Leonard was a total gun who took on the toughest slate of opponents since Muhammad Ali. Leonard knew he was the best.

Marvin fans still crying come on man 😂

Leonard offered and Hagler refused.

@b1j1b1 don't lie, research, Hagler wanted a rematch but Leonard wanted no part of it...

No lie. Hagler refused. ​@@HighlanDre4573

​@@HighlanDre4573don't believe everything you think. What I'm saying is well documented. You should know that before posting.

Exactly. Marvin was there to be taken - with exactly the right strategy. SRL was fresher by miles. Hagler’s naive trainers were no help either - their poor decisions and compromises played a big and overlooked part- but Marvin is waay too loyal to even see that 😯

Marvin won imo

Marvin you .🤡

@@tf9402 Plenty will say Sugar rightly got the decision.

@@BullyBoxer This is serious boxing chat. Keyboard cowards not welcome.

@@tf9402 Absolutely...Marvin won. Hands down...and chased Sugar all night long. The Champion...was NOT definitively beaten that night. A draw should have been the best Sugar got out of that...definitely NOT the belt.

No where is in the rules does it say that you convincingly has to defeat the champion? defeat him should just be enough. Just walking forward missing roundhouses does not make you a winner.

@@Boxing_Gamer It's well known that was the way it USED to be. Draws went to the Champion...as it should...you had to definitively beat the Champion. Then...stupid crap like this started to happen more and more. Hagler won this fight and Sugar didn't rematch him because inside, he knew too.

@@BrotherPatriot well had he won the discussion would just have been about how he only won because he was champion

So gift the Champion a decision?Utter craziness. It's effective aggressiveness too,not walking in a circle.

@@jeremysipes44 Just sayin'...that in the old days it was common knowledge that a tie goes to the Champion. You had to definitively beat the Champ back then...the way it should be. Obviously...that mentality is not so much in today's slippery slope world. Hagler was walkin' in a circle because Sugar was so busy RUNNING.

Hagler would have done what he should have the first time he would have come out south paw pressed Leonard from the word go and beat him from pillar to post

the rabbit would not go 15 rounds & insisted on a ballroom sized ring to dance in - which is exactly what he did -- to say he won that fight is disgraceful @@UpChuckTheBoogie

Ummm...no. That actually would be the Great Joe Louis, the Brown Bomber. (According to Ring Magazine...and me! LoL)

Nope, both of you are wrong. That would be the great OG Sugar Ray Robinson.

@@Matthaeus0 Yup...he would be a contender. So many greats back in History. Joe's 25 heavy weight title defenses with 21 knockouts and holding the belt continuously for darn near 12 years, however...is a feat that will never be broken much less equaled. ;) We all have our favorites. :D

That would be Duran !!

@@Matthaeus0nope your wrong, Joe Louis was the daddy of all fighters that came after him. He had everything and was the most technically sound HW and most vicious ever. He made the guy you call p4p best ever carry his gym bag

Ray KO’d the hitman and is one of the best to ever do it. He wasn’t scared, but he knew that this was definitely not light water to tread in.

@@michaelterrell5061 its hagler kod hearns, hearns beat ray

@@adriangerman77Ray TKO’d Hearns first fight, Hearns beat Leonard second fight BUT a criminal draw was the decision.

Sugar Ray Leonard was never scared of any fighter in his life.

@@tom11zz884why he refused the rematch and fight other boxers

No, Leonard knew he was not in the best boxing shape when he fought Hagler. He would need a tuneup to be fully ready.

Duran beat Sugar Ray in his prime no doubt

Roberto Duran beat the crap out of Sugar Ray Leonard.

I've seen Ray get that way regarding certain fights.