Was I Wrong About RTX 4070 Laptops?
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День томуThere was a problem with my RTX 4070 laptop, so I retested all 25 games at 1440p and 1080p to find out if I was wrong about RTX 4070 gaming laptops. Check prices 👇
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RTX 3070 Ti vs 4070 Comparison Retest Timestamps:
0:00 My RTX 4070 Benchmarks Are Wrong?!
3:44 RTX 4070 Retesting vs Original Results
5:54 All 25 Games at 1080p & 1440p
6:18 Was I Wrong About RTX 4070 Laptops?
7:39 RTX 4060 vs 4070 Comparison Next Week!
7:51 RTX 4080 vs 3080 Ti is Much Bigger
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@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Find out why the RTX 4070 stops performing better after 100W next: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/on1-pp5th6Z9qmg.html
@rijulpraveensingh1650 Рік тому
Finally 🤙
@TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому
Looking forward to it!
@andreabeccarisi1126 Рік тому
Please do 4060 vs 3060 or 3070, not just 4060 vs 4070!
@manilshrestha8433 Рік тому
Please do the review about acer helios 16 rtx 4060
@thiagoalbertins Рік тому
The most waited comparison by me is the 4060 vs 3060! Really hyped for it!
@SoundFX09 Рік тому
You've got to give credit to XMG though for being Transparent as they can about Issues with their Laptops, and working on Remedies and Solutions as soon as possible. We've seen other Laptop Companies hide issues under the Rug Before, so for XMG to do this means they care about both their Brand Image and their Customers. Even if the Performance on the RTX 4070 didn't improve much, XMG made a conscious choice here, and a Good One at that. Appreciate your Coverage on this!
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Yeah they are always very upfront with any issues on their Reddit especially, really good stuff
@GewelReal Рік тому
Hello, can You Not capitalize Random Words?
@dksun Рік тому
@@GewelReal it's a paid advertising
@ACE112ACE112 Рік тому
The capitalization in this comment bugs me.
@Jasontvnd9 Рік тому
@JarrodsTech are these XMG laptops clevo barebones with some finishing touches?
@TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому
Amazing how even after all that it's STILL a very disappointing release, and looks to be a price/performance regression based on early msrps
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
At least now I can be sure about it haha
@tanthokg Рік тому
yeah, the performance of the 4070 Laptop is just barely ahead of the 3070 Ti, while it should've been way more highter
@lilkidsuave Рік тому
7% improvement is very disappointing
@TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому
@@tanthokg I would accept 7% if it didn't also come with a price increase. At least if it were the same msrp you could still say it's an improvement. Based on pricing it appears to be an actual regression.
@tanthokg Рік тому
@@TheDarksideFNothing am I expecting too much from the 4070? I remember the 3070 was a huge leap from the 2070 at that time, both on laptops
@niko1even Рік тому
That's pretty unfortunate, but at least the consumers are fine... I hope. Props to XMG for being transparent about this issue.
@bfish9700 Рік тому
"fine" being that they paid way more than they should have for no generational uplift in performance.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Рік тому
@@bfish9700 But at least they \should\ be getting what they were told they were getting rather than something gimped by manufacturing errors.
@abdelhak943 Рік тому
I bet that the 2.4% improvement comes from the 13th gen CPU and not the GPU.
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Yeah exactly
@gersongaete1574 Рік тому
Cpu improvement, newer ram, better cooling solution, faster NVMEs. All of those add up and I'm confident that the real difference is not even 5%, and quite possibly 0% at 1080p and then negative numbers at 1440p and specially 4k (due to bandwidth)
@Olibelus Рік тому
Huge respect for this. Always professional to have a follow up. Great video as always. All the best, Jarrod!
@totallynotmyeggalt6216 Рік тому
If I remember correctly, Tom's Hardware published a 4070 laptop review with a Gigabyte Aorus model that was initially very lackluster, then the review was updated with a mention of faulty drivers from Nvidia, but it still seems to barely break above many 3070Ti models.
@metalistic1 Рік тому
Great video as always, we appreciate what you do and the transparency on everything.
@attilad.8142 Рік тому
Your video pushed me to buy an Lenovo Legion 5 with 6800H and 3070 for ~1280€. I would be willing to spend ~200€ more for frame generation, but laptops with similar build quality are way more expensive. So I'm still happy with my choice, I will look for an upgrade when RTX6000/7000 series or RDNA5/6 arrive.
@contiplays Рік тому
Yeah same, i have 5800H and 3070. L5PRO
@karthikeyan53 Рік тому
Don't worry. AMD will release FSR 3.0 for all cards. Then you can have fun.
@attilad.8142 Рік тому
@@karthikeyan53 Frame Gen from Nvidia uses specialized hardware and still is far from perfect, although totaly useable when certain conditions are met. While I'am certainly looking forward to tinkering around with FSR 3.0 it first has to prove itself.
@karthikeyan53 Рік тому
@@attilad.8142 Nvidia said the same for DLSS too. But AMD proved that upscaling is possible on all hardware through FSR. FSR 2.0 was really good. I believe in AMD that FSR 3.0 will also be good.
@Jens_Heika Рік тому
I actually made my purchasing decision based on your earlier video, going for an RTX 3070 Ti laptop instead of an RTX 4070 laptop. As such I am happy you're willing to come back to a video you have posted based on new info and even collect a whole new data sample, even if it's just to reconclude your earlier conclusion. By the way, I am very happy with my SCAR 17 (2022), it's everything I wanted.
@notori-di5et Рік тому
How much did you pay for and what the spec just curious
@Jens_Heika Рік тому
@@notori-di5et So I splurged a bit and spent 32,000 NOK on it (a tiny bit over $3000 when converted), including a 25% VAT sales tax. As for the specs (model: G733CW-LL035X): i9-12900HX Speed: 2.3 GHz Factory overclock: 5 GHz Cores: 16, # of Performance-cores. 8 ; # of Efficient-cores. 8 ; Total Threads. 24 2x 16 gb DDR5 SDRAM Speed: 4,800 MHz Form factor: SO DIMM 262-pin SSD: PCIe 4.0, M.2 (1 TB) LED Screen: Resolution: WQHD (2560 x 1440) Size: 17.3 " Nits: 300 Refresh rate: 240Hz Response time: 3 ms CPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Misc: Full per-key RBG, 90 w-h battery, modern ports, etc. Overall while it was a bit more expensive than what I should honestly have gone for it works wonderfully for all my purposes and is leagues better than my old broken laptop which had almost stopped working.
@notori-di5et Рік тому
@@Jens_Heika Wow I thought thing would be lot more expensive here in Asia but in Europe it double dang but if you satisfy with your purchase than good for you and thnx using your time to answer my question 🤝
@Jens_Heika Рік тому
@@notori-di5et You're welcome. Also, important stuff to Norway is very expensive, and the VAT is 25%, so yeah, what you have to pay as a consumer is a lot.
@ihatemotionblur_3255 2 місяці тому
@@Jens_Heika25% is crazy! Considering all semiconductors and nanochip industries are located outside europe! Thats very anti tech
@nowaywithyoueveragai Рік тому
1:29 Hopefully you are right. As I got my laptop 2017 (new from store) It turned out it was an early sample from August 2016 with a GPU with some stability problems, the solution: install a bios which would cap it some 200mhz (if I recall it right) under the advertised and others companies products... It was a MSI laptop, I understand XMG manages issues differently.
@shfd3832 7 місяців тому
THANK YOU JARROD.VERY HELPFUL
@shirokuro73 Рік тому
Major kudos to you for correcting and re-testing, and to XMG for being so up-front about the issue and getting replacements out to you. So for all intents and purposes the laptop 4070 is basically a laptop 3070Ti Plus (with the Plus being DLSS3). Wow. Almost seems like this should have been the 4060. Very interested to see how the actual 4060 performs. Keep up the awesome work!
@TheDude50447 7 місяців тому
this gen nvidia has gimped the xx70 models an below in more ways than just vram amount. Memory bandwidth is among the things they decreased to low end standards especially on the 4070. They want to upsell desktop and mobile buyers to at least the 4080 which is the least expensive card not intentionally made worse this gen.
@shirokuro73 7 місяців тому
@@TheDude50447 I ended up getting an Asus G14 4070. I would have gone for the 4060, but they ran a sale on the 4070 so the price difference was small. Performance is decent, but I do agree that anything below a 4080 this gen seems suited only to small, light, lower wattage machines.
@mkgaming990 Рік тому
Man I love your way of presentation and also your analysis skills with great knowledge
@clintony3000 Рік тому
I picked up a Legion 5 with a 3070ti during black Friday last year, and man am I glad I went that route. It easily holds a candle to this gen, and got it for a great price.
@LadyAmandaK Рік тому
Your 3070 Ti card is also over 87 celsius in performance mode when gaming (there is throttling)?
@ACE112ACE112 Рік тому
@@LadyAmandaK no way it gets that hot.
@clintony3000 Рік тому
@@LadyAmandaK I use a cooling pad and find it does well. I bought it for night shifts and trips, so I don't use it super often, just wanted something decently capable
@LadyAmandaK Рік тому
In auto GPU has max 80 Celsius, but in performance temp to about 89 and next it is throttled to about 86. I don't use cooling pad because I don't see any differences in temperature.
@ACE112ACE112 Рік тому
@@LadyAmandaK what about with max fans on?
@phd_angel4192 10 місяців тому
Thanks for being honest. I still prefer 4070: 7% better performance using less energy is a much better option, specially if you can shop for a good deal.
@Dampfheini 8 місяців тому
And do not forget the DLSS 3 support
@kalimbanewbie17 8 місяців тому
same.. i got 4070 cause its cheaper than the 3070ti versiob 😂
@elis435 6 місяців тому
Also 4070 has frame generation
@killuazoldyck5468 4 місяці тому
I do believe that 3070 ti is cheaper than 4070 but in some countries like Indonesia, 3070ti became less common as i could only found 2-3 laptops out of hundreds of laptops sold here and finding them might be pain in the @ss 🥲
@BLOODYHACKER Місяць тому
Guys does your 4070 use more than 60-70 watts in forbidden west?? Mine only use low watts in the game and gives low fps at max setting
@hamada3ido125 Рік тому
i am now more confident in buying a 3070ti laptop now since it's on a deal, wished the 4070 (or even 4080) were not that crazy priced.
@tanthokg Рік тому
In my place, the 4070 laptops are 50% more expensive than the 3070 ti, and even the 4060's are still at least at the same price
@pastapasta4910 Рік тому
But don't you think 40xx is worth it because of frame generation? It boosts your fps by a lot
@pastapasta4910 Рік тому
@Manuel mkay. I'll also stick to my 3080 but I thought FG could be a reason to go for RTX 40xx
@hamada3ido125 Рік тому
@@tanthokg the ones i see in some online shops are around the 3080ti laptops.
@teapouter6109 Рік тому
@@pastapasta4910 It's not real FPS. Latency is terrible compared to DLSS 2, and game support is pathetic. 40 series is nothing but a slap in the face on both desktop and laptop. This is almost as bad as the 2000 series. Might be worse. Hard to say.
@jonathanr4160 Рік тому
Thanks for the info. Sadly, the 4070 is still pretty "meh" for the $ considering 3070Ti laptops offer much better value here in the US for the $. Curious to see the 4050/4060 results still now
@vmafarah9473 Рік тому
its a stuttery mess in games like RDR2 due to low Memory bandwidth.
@qwer55555555 Рік тому
@@vmafarah9473 how do you know?
@lexavlogs7149 Рік тому
Idks but at least consume 50% less
@ACE112ACE112 Рік тому
@@vmafarah9473 proof?
@siyzerix Рік тому
4070? Don't you mean 4060? Cause that's what it is.
@SteveEricJordan Рік тому
your integrity to the gaming laptop community is unmatched. we love you and your always on point music taste
@consumertechwarehouse9381 Рік тому
My biggest fear is giving people wrong numbers and advice. Especially with gaming laptops costing thousands of dollars. Having said that, if you get early samples, that's an opportunity you have to take advantage of. It helps early adopters make decisions and the channel
@blasianking4827 Рік тому
You may or may not remember me but I made a comment talking about how I wanted to save for a laptop, well after a few months I just got my Strix G15 with a 6800H and 3070 Ti a few days ago! Runs everything great. Keep up the good work Jarrod.
@HanmaHeiro Рік тому
Congrats, just out of curiosity. How much did ya pay for it?
@TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому
Congrats! That's a beast for sure. I have a Legion 5 Pro with 6800h and 3070 and have been very happy with it. ($1600 US) The only times I get unsatisfactory performance is when I'm asking it to do unreasonable things like cyberpunk with ray tracing. Glad I didn't wait for 40 series, as I wouldn't even be able to afford a 4070 and a 4060 is almost definitely going to be a downgrade comparatively!
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Great to hear!
@blasianking4827 Рік тому
@@TheDarksideFNothing I live in Japan rn so gaming laptops are more expensive here, 40 series are like 500-1000 USD more than comparable 30 series laptops so yeah, this was by far the best value for my money.
@blasianking4827 Рік тому
@@HanmaHeiro I live in Japan so gaming laptops are more expensive. The deal on Asus' website is $1650 USD but I ordered it on Amazon so I paid a bit more for it but I did it because it was easier and would come faster (I assumed), so more like $1780 USD. Isn't great by US standards but amazing for Japanese standards.
@tanthokg Рік тому
No worries, errors happen all the time, we appreciate the effort you made for all these high quality videos. Mistakes aside, the 4070 Laptop went from 3% to 7% faster in 1080p, *MINUS* 1% to 2% increase in 1440p gaming performance comparing to the 3070 Ti. The numbers are mind-blowing, in a much less positive way. I guess we all can agree that the customers are fine, because the dissapointment stays the same
@TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому
Nvidia graphs showing "twice the disappointment compared to last generation!" Or "3X the tears per dollar!" What astounding value!
@DeepMukherjee Рік тому
In my country both laptops ( from MSI) are equally priced . So with a die shrink and better node we get the same performance, same price and same thermals. Nice
@TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому
A 30 series nobody can buy followed by a 40 series that nobody wants to lol
@tanthokg Рік тому
@@DeepMukherjee the cuda core count is lower, and the memory bandwidth is halved. I don't know if it matters for long-term use. Some say it does
@gersongaete1574 Рік тому
@@tanthokgit matters a lot. Specially the bandwidth, you can see how it barely holds up at 1440p, and 4k is essentially not possible due to the shitty 3050 tier of 128bit bandwidth
@khmayu2377 Рік тому
I really want to upgrade my laptop soon from 1650Ti to 4070 or at least 4060. But at the current state, 4070 seems not quite in a great spot in term of performace based on your video. Well, none of 40 series laptop (except 4090 and 4050 from MSI) available on my country yet. So i can sit back, watch the upcoming news and more of your 40 laptop videos reviews and decide later on!
@MashITTech Рік тому
Nice work as always Jarrod
@almuntassermohammad6616 Рік тому
i think right now people are just hungry to see a proper 4060 review. but more important than that is a comparision between 3060 vs 4050 coz i think thats the real game changer. if the rumors are true that 4050 is almost as good as 3060, then the prices would be absolutely insane in favor of the buyers. hopefully that is.
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
It's all coming just takes time to get the right stuff to do it 😊
@princehariz7859 Рік тому
spoler , 4050 lose without dslss 3.0
@almuntassermohammad6616 Рік тому
@@princehariz7859 ive seem some other youtubers comparing it, in some cases its pretty darn close even without dlss 3. but its hard to verify other youtubers so im waiting for Jarrods channel to do the comparison. still dlss 3 seems like a game changer moving forward. it may not work for ALL games, but it does work for MOST. and thats the most important part. you can always update and refine the software, but same cant be said with hardware which rtx 3000's simply do not have.
@discoveryalbum Рік тому
Thanks for the transparency. What a great way to handle it!
@Quickbeam_ Рік тому
i love how transparent you were in the video, while the outcome didnt change very much, the silver lining is that xmg were able to in part leverage your results to fix an issue and you get two videos worth of revenue
@giuseppenaylor Рік тому
Breh... You've got a subscriber. Dedication to the task is admirable.
@Iopipimps Рік тому
early review samples are still good so people can have a baseline of potential issues and we get to see if corpos actually fixes them
@migongaming Рік тому
Hey jarrod, you should totally review the Axioo Pongo 7 (upgradable desktop cpu and stuff, though it'll void your warranty, and it's only available in Indonesia as far as i know) if it interests you
@RyanAlexSmith Рік тому
Every so often your videos remind me of a song that I haven't heard in years and should revisit, today it was "Clayman" and "Scream" to bring me down memory lane of what I was listening to at the time in the mid-2000's. Thanks again for all the content, you've helped me help a number of people make good choices on what purchase gets them the most out of their money.
@Airwolf2030 Рік тому
Thanks for letting us know about the issue and glad xmg letting us know about the issue than to ignore it later, I wonder the performance difference be like compared to the 3070 even though the cpus is different 🤔
@spacepaw69 Рік тому
Hi Jarrod awesome Video as always, I wanted to ask you if the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro (RTX 3070 Ryzen 5800h 16gb ram) is better than a 3060ti ryzen 5600x 32gb ram desktop, in the field of performance?
@user-cu5gc4qz8p Рік тому
bit unfortunate i'd read the new 4090 laptops using the tongfang motherboard (xmg neo, mech gp2, recoil vii) were having issues with crashing and that it was suspected they weren't throttling properly. for high end product it scared me off to point where I went for pricier alienware m18 instead
@HanmaHeiro Рік тому
Thanks for the follow up. I agree with your assessment and hopefully you're able to add a note on the 4070 v 3070ti video to link to this in the video itself. This way people can get a fuller picture. I know UKposts has limitations but it's best so people don't try and hit your reputation should they see the slight discrepancy in the 4070 performance
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
I updated the pinned comment on the original video to mention this one and I'll add it to the end of the other one too, not too much else can be done from a UKposts perspective unfortunately. Remember when they had on screen captions? Haha
@ARAKAWA00 8 місяців тому
The very reason why I subscribed to you, is you are so wholesome on videos you create. Cheers mate.
@magicfuchs616 Рік тому
THIS ! is the stuff why I value your channel! Thank you and greeting from Germany!
@user-xb2bi5yu6o 10 місяців тому
Thanks Jarrod for being so true and all those very informative videos you are posting is really helps us a lot when choosing the right gaming laptop on our personal budget and needs!
@chrisescue6555 6 місяців тому
Totally new to PC gaming, and I'm so glad I have you to reference.
@GohanBurner 10 місяців тому
Jerrod, love your videos man...but I find myself trying to compare the XX70 cards to the older XX80/ti cards. Got any of those out there? Can't decide if I should go for the 3080ti with 16gb vram or a newer 4070.
@pierreedo5841 Рік тому
Great video. I'd like to see a review about the Samsung Galaxy Book 3.
@sushimshah2896 Рік тому
0:15 - Hey it's Tom from XMG, I remember him dropping by in the comments in your XMG laptop videos years ago
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
he still does!
@edward1101 Рік тому
Hey Jarrod, I'm impressed by your ability to create so many high quality videos in a such a short timespan! Are you planning a full review of alienware m18 in the nearest future?
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
I'm not sure about the Alienware. I have had issues getting them previously, so never have any idea if or when I'll get one.
@wasd-moves-me Рік тому
Great work!
@rsjet Рік тому
I'm pretty sure most people prefer earlier reviews than later more accurate reviews, even for just a ballpark figure of how improved the new products are. It allows us to know which GPUs/CPUs we should look at to purchase. The differences between early hardware and final hardware, as shown here , are minimal and the conclusions don't change. Thanks Jarrod for the early review and the retest!
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Thanks for your thoughts! I'm not sure I agree about early reviews. If I'm buying something as expensive as a gaming laptop I want to an accurate representation of how it will perform. I'd also prefer to avoid having inaccurate information in my videos where possible.
@rsjet Рік тому
@@JarrodsTech Thanks for the reply. I believe your point to be correct, but i think what i stated also applies as long as the early review numbers are within the ballpark of the final hardware. Mainly because for most people they want to buy the latest gen hardware immediately, rather than wait months for the most reviews of every single option to be released.
@SirRFI Рік тому
Have you considered reviewing accessories for laptops, like USB hubs, docks, port replicators, KVM and alike? As far I browse shops in my country, product pages are limited to number of ports and nothing else - no description, no port version like HDMI, no bandwidth, anything. Some products have customer reviews saying how certain ports stop working in certain conditions, or how HDMI port is supposedly 2.0 but basically limits itself to what 1.4 can offer anyway. I am considering buying Zephyrus G14 2022, but it doesn't have many ports - including network one, so I would have to buy said accessories.
@hyperion8650 Рік тому
You could also just go for the g15 which gives better IO
@SirRFI Рік тому
@@hyperion8650 Looking for AMD+AMD model, which considering availability limits choice to only this or DDR4 models.
@TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому
Great work as always. I think you handled this the best way possible. I think I speak for everyone here when I say we appreciate the honesty. Stuff happens sometimes. You're definitely still my first source when it comes to this type of content!
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Thanks!
@danielcable842 Рік тому
I just really want to see these two GPUs at different TDP settings. I have a suspicion that the 4070 is going to put up some great numbers in the 75-100 watt range. I'm looking for a laptop that doesn't sound like a jet engine and still performs well at higher settings. Really hoping a Ryzen 7040 and rtx 4070 fit the bill
@luminous3353 10 днів тому
3070 are power hungry monsters gpus....i think on 4070 on 100watt we getting equal performance without buring thermals vs 3070 on 160w getting hot as hell then 4070 is doing great
@SSGBLACK Рік тому
Amazing video, I already bought laptop with 3060 last year based on your reviews, BUT I want to upgrade to 4060 so I want to see 4060 vs 3060 comparison to be sure
@spambobspampants Рік тому
Can't wait for the G14 video!
@ghostietheghost Рік тому
thank you for this video. I was thinking of grabbing either a legion 5 pro with a 4070, or a 2022 zephyrus g15 with a 3070ti and a ryzen 9 6900hs (26gb) ram. Would you recommend the zephyrus one, even though I've heard it can sometimes overheat ?
@cmdrclassified Рік тому
You're a good man, Jarrod. Hell, you're the best laptop reviewer on the internet! Thanks for being you. o7
@nikolaybelikov1498 Рік тому
Hi Jarrod! Thanks you for videos! Can you suggest what notebook is better to buy now? I choose between MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070) and LENOVO LEGION 5 i7-12700h + RTX 3070 (not Ti). MSI is cheaper but the price is not question. I have not enough money to buy the top gaming notebook but I what to get notebook for play games on the highest graphics setting at least for 3-5 years and maybe use Ableton and coding on python. Thank you!
@Ragnaraz690 Рік тому
If the 4070, had the same amount of cores and such as it's predecessor, 10gb of VRAM and the same bit bus and bandwidth as the 3070ti, chances are it would be a great GPU, but Nvid called the 4060ti a 4070 and gimped the midrange.
@ZombifexGaming 7 місяців тому
I love your shirts, Jarrod. In Flames and Amon Amarth! I'm here for the shirts now. ❤
@benaak1682 Рік тому
Hi, I would like you to test the Aorus 17h 13700H + RTX 4080. It is perfect for me for the price. moreover with the MUX I use the DLFR for upscaling in 2K and the performances are really excellent
@peter5204 Рік тому
Glad to hear that it is 5-10% less sh!ty as I ordered Legion 7i pro with 4070 just few days ago. This good news makes me 5-10% happier with my purchase 😊
@GodRishUniverse Рік тому
How is the legion 5 pro and 5i pro? What about reviews of laptops with R9 7945Hx and 7845hx ?
@srivats1095 Рік тому
That’s why you’re the best man! No matter what, you set your priorities right and deliver the quality content right on time!! Kudos to that!!
@TheMaxAwesome Рік тому
4070 = 3070Ti + DLSS3.0 for less power draw. Sounds like a win all around if you’re in the market and deciding between the two at similar price point. DLSS 3.0 is significant if you’re not a pixel peeper and less power draw is huge for laptop GPUs.
@kalimbanewbie17 8 місяців тому
true
@poppers7317 5 місяців тому
DLSS 3.0 also needs VRAM of which the 4070 hasn't a lot
@JaySanAV Рік тому
Jarrod I just bought the Acer Predator 2022 model with a 3070ti, thanks to your videos I am very happy with this choice 👍🏽
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Nice!
@lastblueride5 Рік тому
Ofc its your decision, but I sincerely hope you continue releasing reviews before the release date as many of us decide to buy based on independant reviews. Not to mention, here in the US, many laptops are offered on pre-order (so they're essentially asking for money for something we don't how well it will perform).
@cocktailsandpedro815 Рік тому
Thank goodness. I bought the Zephyrus M16 (2022 12900 3070ti) because of the previous video,but I debated the 4070 version. I'm glad i still made the right decision and saved some money.
@mago_1cx Рік тому
Patiently waiting for the MSI GE78 but before trying to buy one.. Your review is greatly awaited for too.. Specially the Hinges Strength..
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
Still waiting on news for MSI on that one! I'm keen for it as it's a new design
@tryfergoodra552 Рік тому
Will you do review for the Strix g18 and the Helios 300 18" ?
@mr.wololo9927 9 місяців тому
Any info on the MSI Crosshair 16 4070 in Best Buy
@LucasBlaney Рік тому
👏 👏 👏 👏 well done, Jarrod. You're the man.
@itzarrandom6245 Рік тому
Jeez, these mid-range laptop GPUs have such little improvement
@davidgunther8428 Рік тому
SOTR is very sensitive to CPU performance at 1080p, so memory tunings or CPU cooling could easily cause the 18% difference.
@V1pz0r Рік тому
Isn’t the Frame Generation feature worth upgrading to a laptop with 4070 over the 3070ti despite the marginal improvement at native 1440p? Also 4070 will probably produce lower temp and fan noise for the same performance demand
@hemendraravi4787 9 місяців тому
both are in similar price range anyways
@ast3663 3 місяці тому
well, what about efficiency benchmarks, how do they compare energy-saving wise? maybe the fps are similar as shown in your tests but the power consumption on the 4070 are lower?
@upperdecker1750 Рік тому
Do you recommend a monitor to go with my Acer i7 12700 3070ti 16GB ddr5 laptop? Like best of the best under 2k?
@Nexx Рік тому
Best gaming laptop review in town!
@thrillvilled111 Рік тому
Big question would be: What would the difference be like when you install a debloated Nvidia driver on them to get the max speeds as well as disabling Windows Defender using PowerShell scripts.
@Romash. Рік тому
jarrod whoch should i buy legion 7 2021 3070 or legion slim 7i 2022
@KaitoFS Рік тому
Hey Jarrod, should I get the new legion 5i pro 4070 or the legion 7 gen 7 amd 6700m? Its a 400$ difference so I wanna know if its worth the money.
@agasuo2673 Рік тому
i also had this issue with first batch of scar 17 2022 last year, my unit even crash on games when in turbo mode, but instead give me a new laptop, asus (in vietnam) said that my scar 17 is normal, no issue. i was so mad and i just sold my scar 17 after 3 days of purchase with less than 20% its price and i bought gp76 instead.
@Liebe-cw7dm 3 місяці тому
I'm thinking about the low 8gb 4070 for the future 4k gaming. Its thar a good concern?
@Marques_239 6 місяців тому
Regarding 4000's series laptops from MSI, it seems like there is a plague of high DPC latency issues as well as severe stuttering in most titles, even older ones. Any plans to have a look into this mystery? It seems almost like it has been ignored by MSI for a long time and a quick search online reveals a ton os unsatisfied customers.
@lwampirl Рік тому
Good Job!
@juxtaposedmultiplicity7372 Рік тому
Any value in comparing 4070 performance in thin and light like M16 vs a full power 3070ti?
@GamerBoy001G Рік тому
well, I'm not so pro in gaming. I like the Legion 7 Gen 7 AMD (maxed out version). But I'm confused about its GPU. Is the RX6850M XT better than 3070ti? is it really better? Legion 7i pro almost has a similar price range. Is the Ryzen 9 6900 HX+RX6800M XT 12 Gb+ 32 Gb Ram capable enough for next 5 years gaming?
@DevilbyMoonlight Рік тому
looking at a new laptop for star citizen... if they ever fix the 3.18 release
@gee4636 Рік тому
Not sure if you have tried overclocking but 4070s are heavily voltage limited so the default boost clock is a lot lower when compared to 4060/50. If you add a 300MHz boost to the clock, it can actually trade blows with a 3080ti. But still, because of the lower bus width and voltage cap, Nvidia is intentionally crippling the 4070 in higher resolution and higher tdp versions. Perhaps they are trying to squeeze some room for upcharging 4070Ti laptops
@FrowningTaco Рік тому
Couldn't you overclock a 3070ti already?
@manjunathprasad7558 Рік тому
Hey, i really think you should compare laptops gpu to their desktop equalent, i mean the laptop rtx 4090 is nowhere near its desktip counterpart but it whould be really intresting to see the desktop equalent of the laptop gpu's
@JarrodsTech Рік тому
I have done and will do more soon. You can find the playlist here: ukposts.info/slow/PLFBbwFM8jIbNpuH8aV5qyuoFavnRmviYy
@honghungho9818 Рік тому
Hi Jarrod, can you make a performance test con Alienware M16 rtx 4080 laptop with a replaced RAM (may be SODDIM 5600Mhz or 5800 Mhz). Thanks alot bro
@hardy2167 4 місяці тому
what to buy asus tuf F15 (i7 13th gen 4060) or lenovo loq( i7 13thgen 4060 rtx), or any msi or acer recommendation are appreciated . budget around 1200$ .
@osricen Рік тому
I believe the major selling point for the 4000 series is the frame generation tech, to give players the illusion of much better frame rates in some games. Other than that... I also can't really see the point of spending more money on these ones. Probably gonna get a 3000 series Ti now!
@Dale_Blackburn Рік тому
Will this also apply to programs like Davinci? I am doing film editing and stuff.. should i pick scar 17 with 3070ti and i9/ 12900 processor OR. G18 with i7/13650hx, but 4070 gpu? Thanks. Also g18 they say has backlight bleeed...
@ezradelacruz275 Рік тому
When's the legeion 7i 4080 review at?
@br-rf6mc Рік тому
Mr Jarrod please review Asus Rog flow z13 2023 with RTX4060
@adityashekhar1090 Рік тому
Is there a wattage issue in 4070? Internet is flooded with various articles that it's maxes out at 105-110w instead full 140w.
@emudshit Рік тому
Interesting, so it seems the 4050 and 4060 is this years best choice, night grab the 4050 z13 flow, anyone have thoughts or should I get the 4060 version ?
@michaelschrobilgen3118 Рік тому
I'm going to pick up the 4060 z13
@emudshit Рік тому
@@michaelschrobilgen3118 same here haha just waiting for availability in Australia
@kuyakoiaguilar7767 Рік тому
Im interested inseeing the temps on these laptops. As in theory 4070 shouls run cooler and should better perform on longer game sessions
@csgaming917 Рік тому
Hey jarlod ,couldyou review the Lenovo IdeaPad gaming 3 ryzen 7 5800h with rtx 3060,as I'm planning to buy a budget gaming laptop ,under 1000$,plzz❤
@slq4358 3 місяці тому
What would you choose between an Acer Nitro 5 (2022) Ryzen 7 6800h/3070ti/16gb and a HP Victus 16 (2023) i7 13700h/4070/16gb considering that the HP is 200 € more expensive?
@chrisramos604 Рік тому
Hi jarrod! Can you confirm your XMG is running at constant 115w +25 boost all the games? There many reports that RTX 4070 is cap only at 105w at all scenarios like in rog g16, blade 16. Etc
@kuyakoiaguilar7767 Рік тому
What I am really looking is the temperatures. as that dictates if the performance is sustainable for longer play sessions. because even if 3070 has the same performance as 4070 in benchmarks which typically runs just a couple of minutes. If 4070 runs cooler, then it can maintain performance for 2 or 3 hrs compared to a hotter GPU which normally throttles down due to heat issues specially on laptops.
@NotEve26 Рік тому
Is it worth the extra money for the 4080 laptops than the 4070? I'm thinking about buying the m16 with 4070 or 4080. Sometimes the 4080 won't run faster because the laptops can't keep up but I'm not sure
@elins4143 Рік тому
I've been thinking of getting the alienware m17 with a 3080 and top of the line amd processors for 2200 euros or lenovo legion 5i pro with 13th gen i7 and 4070 for 2300. No idea what's best between the 2 graphics cards, with this frame increasing tech and stuff but it doesn't even work on all games.. Anyway I'm lost lol, I'm leaning towards the lenovo but 3080 seems to be better than 4070 although it might not be future proof.
@whitigir 5 місяців тому
I have been searching for a laptop, and to my surprise, the 3070/80Ti last gen were still very much competitive to the newer 4060/70 generation. The differences come down to display quality and build quality. Most of the new 40 family are with IPS display, some is with OLED but very low TGP (yeah, it may run cooler, and more efficient but not by much if you play game on it). In the while the 70/80TI last gen were mostly released with too if the line specs on the display brightness, resolution, a lot of choices from MiniLed and OLED. IMO, the display is a lot more important. So it makes the 3070/80Ti a lot more tempting. Beside that, I don’t really care much about frame generation
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