GM made a mistake with the Blazer nameplate. Should have remade it into a modern version of the original not a lame compact SUV.

Toyota needs to bring Fj back.

9:10 Truly, who thinks a plug in hybrid is the best option in a 4 X 4? It's not even a great option for everyday use. Let the bloody engine and drive train recharge the hybrid battery. What have the other companies got against this simple concept that Toyota understands?

A new FJ with a removable top would kill it. Maybe any FJ with some more of the retro styling of the FJ-40

I’d like to see a hardcore 4Runner with 35s from Toyota. Something that can take on a Rubicon.

Great video. I currently drive an 18 year old GX and a 27 year old LX as daily drivers and am building another 80 Series Landcruiser as a dedicated off-roader.

Toyota was always the best in 4x4... maybe in the US the perspective is different... i dont see any other vehicle that may compete other than the Wrangler. Toyota has the Land Cruiser, the Prado, the Tacoma/Hilux, the Fortuner, th LC70 the 4Runner, the Lexus GX etc... Since Nissan started to disappear post Ghosn era, there is no competition to Toyota for the RoW

Guys, there is really no news in this video whatsoever. Can we please agree to do the next video about the new 4Runner and LandCruiser once there is something to say, or when these cars have finally come out? Thanks

Nobody with common sense would buy anything other than Toyota/Lexus as the competitions reliability is just shocking

10:35 You can't buy a new LandCruiser for less than $80,000 right now in Michigan. Dealers, man.

Love Tommy's honesty about 'pissing in the wind'. Nothing wrong with it...everyone has been too excited for too long and Toyota far too patient with this iconic truck.

No mention of the fj40 in Toyota history? The 40 is what started it all for Toyota off roading in the US. It’s been part of the culture since the 50s. Cheers

Most people do not off road, they buy because they want to look like they do!

The latest Lexus GX 550 configurator offers as dealer installed additional skid plates to what comes from the factory!

Is Roman ill? He doesn't look well, he's appeared very frail as of late. I pray for his full recovery!

This could be an absolutely huge year for Toyota in the off road space. They went from having multiple models being pretty dated for 2024 to new tacoma, new landrover, and the imminent announcement of the 4runner redesign. If they get the price right on the 4runner, they are going to make a killing in this space since Ford and especially Jeep have gone price crazy. I could easily see the people being priced out of jeep possibly flocking to towards toyota.

"Affordable" is a term used loosely by today's standards..everything is expensive now.

I sure hope Toyota keeps the “roll down” tailgate window on the new 4Runner!

Hard to bash the price of the Jeep Wrangler when you consider Jeep throws in free tattoos and a pitbull with every sale.

i gotta agree, toyota is slaying the off road suv market and they kinda have dominated it for a long while w the land cruiser/gx in terms of overlanding. the fact that xoverland has toyota as their sponsor says alot, and they did get the 1st trailhunter tacoma in the US. toyota even tried to trademark the name overlander for the gx but had to settle for overtrail. if you want to see this rig all decked out to what it could be check out the jaos edition. its pretty sweet. the 4runner has done well but wrangler and bronco have surpassed it. starting w the top dog two rows we have the discovery, ineos, and gx550. the gx will sell well vs ineos bc it is the most practical daily driver. not many people will take their discoveries off road bc they are luxury crossovers now kind of like the jeep gc. toyota has every price range covered w rav4trd in the 30s, 4runner in 40s, land c in the 50s, sequoia in the 60s, and gx550 in the 70s+. they could even compete directly w a two door bronco or wrangler and bring back the fj. ineos is a true overlander bc it has solid axles and a front locker but i think its more at home in say africa, the outback or the desert but anywhere really bc it can go anywhere. id still rather have a gx overtrail even though it does not have a front locker or build an expedition sxt two row custom timberline in that size for american byways. i think the landcruiser will do well vs jeep gc bc its a smaller 2row body on frame hybrid. the grand c is not a good base for offroad though it has quadra d2 but its not all that modifiable like a landcruiser most likely will be. the biggest tires you can put on it are 265/65/18 which are like 31.5" tall. im sure the land c will fit 265/70/18s wo a lift. the new 4 runner will also do very good in sales vs the wrangler and bronco bc of price, practicality for offroad families, and mod capability for those whose wanting to take it a step further. with the exception of bronco and wrangler it seems like the american brands are falling behind in terms of offroad suv prowess, while the focus has been on trucks. more than good there. im sure the timberline will come back eventually in the refreshed explorer but its still a crossover. what jeep really needs is a 4runner fighter. a new budget, body on frame, ifs, steel spring, v6 cherokee? an suv geared for offroaders to build on yet still family friendly in stock form. something in the 40k price range of course w a bunch of other offroad trim or pkg goodies like lockers, 4low, and skids.

About time for some competition. Jeep and their prices have been insane. I wanted to love a Gladiator / Wranger but then learned about what Stellantis did the brand (and then asked for how much they ask for!)

I think stellantis should add landrover and jaguar……since Jeep wants to go upmarket landrover can be their luxury division

Dealers will run Toyota into the ground! The Landcruiser 1958 is listed at $55k. My dealer is selling it for $78k!!!!!!!!! Absolutely ridiculous and appalling!

If GM used their recipe from 20 years ago and made a new Trailblazer on the Colorado platform (and offer a ZR2), I would be sold. Black or dark green, please

Roman, your hat is excellent! How do I get one?

Toyota is doing awesome things I just wish they still offered a V8

I remember a few years ago you guys reviewed a factory GX that had the air dam cut, steel bumper installed, rock rails, etc. Would be interesting to go back and look to see if you caught that this was a trial balloon by Lexus for the new trail-ready GX

What percentage of off road vehicles actually go off road? I guess it’s better to have it and not use it than to need it and not have it.

Autoblog posted Nissan is considering the revival of Xterra. Given the success of the Frontier, how likely you think we will see a Xterra in the near future? Nissan seems to be focus on family/mall finder vehicles while Toyota is doing well with sporty SUVs that offers an off road package to capture that growing segment. Do you think Nissan has given up on the off road market?

Roman trimming up for the nice weather. Keep it up brother

My local Toyota/Lexus dealerships have two Landcruiser Fe and there 5 grand more than there new GX's.

Always great work fellas! Keep it up. Thanks for all you do. Appreciate you.

Toyota has always been one of the most chosen vehicles for overlanding & general off roading. Even when I didn't pay attention to that stuff I'd always see toyota's period and wondered why. Well now I've found out why because the hold up better when you go away from society or civilization.

IF they price it anything like the Tacoma, only a small percentage will buy it. Which won't be good for sales. Tacoma, isn't selling like they thought it would right now. It's almost like the "Tundra," in many ways. It's ALL about pricing.

You guy's are lucky. As an example, In the Netherlands the ford bronco cost 150k due to emision taxes.

Did the 4runner ever lose the crown in the first place?

Keeping my 2023 4runner,until I retire in about 2032.Then maybe a NEW GX550 or 4runner,if I can afford one! If not then probably a used 2027 or 28,as long as their still built in Tahara!

yeah the Land Crusier may have dropped in price but dealerships in Southern California have already taken advantage of that . LCs in the South Bay are marked up and going for 90k +

Great conversation

These truck manufacturers do a great job “romanticizing “ off road capabilities that 99% of us will never use. The commercials make people fantasize about the freedom of the outdoors. To me, as long as a vehicle can handle snowstorms and maybe a little mud, I’m good. However, I did use 4 low and lockers in my Tacoma to get me out of a blizzard one time in 8 years. Was nice to have , but I think a quality ride on the road is more my focus now

I expect the 4Runner to feed directly into the Cruiser in price The Taco really starts in the mid-30's so the 4Runner can start just above it, near $40k, and run up to the Cruiser, in the high $50s

An option package for these trucks with Mike ”Ironman" Stewart livery would really send a message about how serious they are.

The Toyota will be reliable too. I wouldn't buy a Ford or an FCA vehicle. That Toyata is interesting though.

Will the Dealer Adjustment be $10,000 on the 6th Gen 4Runner? Is it really coming out next year? They have been saying that for the last 4 years.

What about the axel issues??

A tundra plug in hybrid is a game changer. My last Tundra most of my work was 80 percent city , but still need to pull big loads , drive 700 km . A 40 mile plug in would of cut gas down a huge amount ( currently own 2 hybrid since 2013 )

Toyota Lexus hands down. The problem with the market over here is greedy dealers and their price gouging. Before the Bronco coming back, Ford seemed to be MIA for a long time as well.

I want to know the difference in 5th Gen and 6 Gen with Ground Clearance Breakover MPG Tire size is it worth upgrading ? Take these two to Moab ?

Getting arid of the Cherokee was a mistake. Especially the Trailhawk model. I still will take a wrangler. But I love everything Toyota has put out.

Here in Toronto Canada they are getting stolen faster than they roll off the assembly line. Park it in your driveway or at the mall and go shopping it's a 50/50 chance it will be there when you return. Do it daily like parking and taking the train or subway to work and there is a 100% chance it will be stolen.

People already forgetting the new Taco snapping the front diff. I seen a new taco yesterday and first thought to my head brittle and a liability off-road. Toyota has a lot to makeup.

Ok, but, the problem I see is that Toyotas big advantage has been their durability. They maintained that durability and reliability by staying with 20 year old technology. Now they have modernized their Engines and transmission. I’m already hearing stories from Toyota mechanics about how many problems they are seeing with the new drive train. Ford is also fighting problems with the Engines and Transmission in their trucks and Broncos. There is talk of recalls on their turbo engines. Jeep. As long as you stay away from the 4XE and stick with the 3.6 V6 , you should be in fine shape. I have several friends that drive the older V6 4 runners. I drive an older Grand Cherokee with the 3.6 and 8 speed automatic. My GC is trail rated. I have more power, better ride, much better gas mileage. And can match them off-road without breaking a sweat.

Do you guys think you can figure out when Toyota will do the official announcement of the 6th Gen 4runner? Based on the teaser schedule from the Landcruiser last year.

A removable cardboard or plastic top on the Jeep and Bronco is NOT an advantage! lol

That jeep going around that curve looked good.

Here’s some news. According to the Toyota website Tacoma Build pages the new 6spd manual has been down rated to the base i4 engine. It’s down 30% on hp and torque from what they had said it would be. Maybe the front differential can’t handle the torque.

I love my 4runner but the frame is going. My mechanic said 1 year to 3 max depends on how much snow we get. Waiting to see what Toyota does with the new 4runner.

Nice review. I always thought the 4Runner competed against the Bronco and the Jeep, all three are competent off road vehicles that are body on frame and designed with off roading in mind. Plus, the aftermarket support is enormous. I wouldn’t even consider the Explorer as an off road vehicle. It’s a fantastic family hauler, the AWD is fine for light off road work, but it doesn’t have the ground clearance the Jeep, 4 Runner, or Bronco offer. Plus, it’s a unibody, not a body on frame. I my mind The Explorer doesn’t even compete in the off roading category.

Ford and jeep might be the most offroad focus in the US but here in Guatemala Toyota is offroad king. You see 22r going to the most treacherous terrains any vaehicle can get. The hilux, LC300, land cruiser prado and fortuners are the ranchers and farmers preferred work tool.

Well we can forget a removable top from Toyota. Based on that rear hatch. I just hope the manual makes it back which I am highly convinced it will.

Toyota will never go all in enough to truly compete offroad with the Wrangler or Bronco. The Toyota will be more reliable, better assembled, better on road, but it will not have the straight up capabilities of the Jeep and Bronco.

I think Toyota and Lexus have nailed the styling on these 2 (Land Cruiser and GX). I like the GX better. I think Toyota has identified their weakest link: styling. They've never before been a leader in that category IMO.

So, there is a demographic of buyers who spend $80,000 on an SUV and then take it out and scratch the crap out of it, cake it with mud, dent it and possibly roll it doing hard core off-road?

Toyota needs to offer factory 35s and 37s on the 4Runner, along with front lockers and sway bar disconnect, as well as removable top and doors. If they do this, I will trade my Bronco Badlands for a 4Runner in a heart beat.

I never thought of Jeeps and Ford as a competitor, you can modify the 4runner to match Jeeps/Ford spec, but you can't modify the Jeeps/Ford to the 4runner reliability.

Didnt the new Tundra (or Tacoma, I forget which) already have a recall?

Wonder if those Tacoma front diff issues are also going to be on the new 4Runner.

I'm a prior TACO owner < great rigs. THAT said, i hope they continue to include appropriate ICE power plants in their lineup as i will ride a horse into our tiny desert town for grocery runs or up Wheeler Pass before i ever include an electric/hybrid in my driveway.

jeep is basically trying to be a luxury brand at this point, the wrangler is impractical and only good as a second vehicle for most ppl (ie people with money), while their every vehciles have escalated in price drastically, they have no entry vehicles

I wish Honda would buy Jeep from Stellantis before they drive the brand into the ground. Jeep needs a large automotive company with a good corporate philosophy and solid engineering behind it to keep the brand alive. Honda needs an offroad component in it's lineup and they have excellent business acumen and an excellent engineering reputation. Stellantis just fired 250 of it's engineers...I think the problems are more in the board room at Stellantis and not in the engineering department.

Can't wait to hear Roman complain how it's not as plush or luxurious as his precious Range Rover piles

So where does the Sequoia sit in the Toyota lineup? That’s the part that’s not super clear.

Ther 4Runner should be the lowest cost of mfg it has ever been as it is going to contain so much content from the Tacoma which does 250k unit sales in the USA. Add 135-150k 4Runner unit sales and Toyota should be able to offer the new 4Runner at a very competitive price. If they choose to do so is the question that will need to be answered in the very near future.

Expendable money for average Americans is drying up. Vehicle sales will start to slow down. Unless banks start normalizing 10+ year auto loans. (I could see that happening)

not to mention we might be having a Xterra on the way too

Ford and Jeep should be very thankful Toyota does not put a removable top on the 4Runner! Can't even imagine the sales they would steal! (Jeep should also thank Toyota for a hard top on the Tacoma too!)

I recently saw a post on IG with a collage of midsize trucks. The ford… new ranger raptor. The Chevy… ZR2 Bison. Then two photos of Tacomas. One was the trail whatever and the other a pro. My take away is that Toyota isn’t even in the same league when it comes to being absurd (as usual). They’ll never have a raptor, a TRX, or even a wrangler competitor. Doing silly things like removable doors, supercharged V8s, isn’t in Toyotas wheelhouse.

With Land Cruiser being a thing I think 4Runner may find it has a ceiling other brands like Ford and Dodge don’t have. Think Camaro/Corvette

6:41 Tommy's impulsive honesty is the best thing about TFL

Don't forget a xterra is on the way and if what you reported is true it might get that removable top they requested a patent for

jeep is king of off-road and I’m not a Jeep fan but that is a fact Jeep is King… unless Toyota comes up with a vehicle with basically the same off-road specs it’s not gonna happen…

Do you think they’ll try and go against the Kia telluride and the Jeep grand Cherokee L ? Add a third row that can off road?

Is Roman going through chemotherapy?

Will be interesting to pit the New 4Runner against the new Ranger based FORD Everest!! Which I think FORD should sell in the US even if some claims it would compete with the Bronco.

Can’t wait to see what a Toyota 4 runner gonna look like if they bring back the manual transmission like my dad had it I’ll be the first one to buy it and also my dad said the same thing he had a 1984Runner with five speed.. had that for 10 years for work . with 125,560 on it then get the jeep 1994 Cherokee with the straight six for work

Toyota needs to get the rights from Suzuki for the Suzuki samurai and create a Toyota version to compete with the Jeep Wranglers

Low end?

I own a 4Runner and a JGC. They are both great, but different. Long 6 hour road trip back to my folks house? 4Runner - more room and cargo area for kids and doggo. 3 feet of snow? JEEP. Better 4X4 system, HEMI. Love em both.

Sixty years of off road and I never wanted a removable roof or doors

Great overview, I appreciate you both sharing your ideas and thoughts based on your hands-on experiences

Didn't the 4runner snap it's drivetrain during a test? Or was that the Tacoma?

We need a FJ with a v6 and comparable features to the Bronco. Removable hardtop etc…..

If that short cut is coming from Jeep, Toyota needs a FJ that's actually a callback to tbe 40/45....not some joke of an EV.

If it doesn’t have NA V8 option….

No more Jeep or Bronco. I will most likely get the 4runner. GX does not fit my budget.

Truly, the gems 💎 are the GX460 and 5th generation 4Runner. Anyone on the market should buy it NOW. You will regret if you don’t get them. The newer offerings from Toyota is moving towards more power, more unrefined unproven territories. It is going to be years to iron teething challenges.

GM could still make a GMC Jimmy from the parts bin of the Colorado/Canyon. But current leadership has chosen to ditch what consumer want and has gone all in on EVs for their future.

The pricing for the Land Cruiser is criminal. The Lexas GX is CLERLY the smarter choice. At least they arent taxing you heavily for the Land Cruiser name

The issue with the diesel they just waited to long. Fans of all brands wanted it and it too way too long. And emissions in America are a nightmare.

Holy crap the 550 makes more hp and torque than a gm 8.1 vortec 😮