LoTR no doubt

you seem into Dune, so definitely that but if I had to pick only one from those, it'd be dark materials lore

the expanse please love your vids and thats my new fav show cant wait to see where it goes im saving reading the books till after but you can tell me about them for days

LOTR!

Dune for sure, you could make the videos leading up to the movie...

Actually it’s not golden it’s silver

Not wrong tho

Guy can go to Mars and do what ever he wants, but he is still bad in sex.

@@amargabela7018 truer words has never been spoken 😔

He fucked off to a different galexy after killing best boii

Yeah

I see a butterfly. A beautiful, homicidal butterfly with green socks smoking a cigar. This means I am sane, right doc?😬

@Ddhfacetyy Jesus Christ dude... it’s a joke. About ror... nvm...

Huh? Are you sure it’s not a dog their with head busted open?

@Ddhfacetyy Rorschach just doesn't want a peace made out of lie

Alt ending: Ozzy: they cant blame each other for this! Ussr: IT WAS CANADA! Usa: IT WAS CHINA! Ozzy: Wait? WHAT! Why would they think that!? Thats an incredibly dumb rationale. It makes no sense what idiot would do that!? Dr. Manhattan: Its human goverments Ozzy, what did you expect? Ozzy: ...(sigh) touchè.

when was that mentioned?

Smort

@@robber233 Sends the squiddy to every goddamn country

@@headoverheels899 (Humanity dies) Ozzy: that'll teach the- aw f***...

Would hate to be a pain but do you know where I could find that essay? Sounds interesting but dont want to buy the comic.

@@josepharcher3620 !!

I mean America invent not perserve the European have thousand of tear to develop and they see the collapse of an super power like the roman first hand, the European perserve stuff like king and peasant untill like the 20th Century just look at Victorian London,while the American fought it they try to not be held by titles and royalty so they need optimism to fight. While many European back then either work everyday with limited pay while the royalty are free and happy so many because pessimistic, the British Saw child labor, 2 world wars' and a collapsing empire while the American gain more land and an economic boom, also the founding of the USA is based around the optimism that you could have a better live there than Europe TL;DR: America is founded and need optimism while the European have many thing to be pessimistic about

@@josepharcher3620 get a library card

I would like to read it too but we do not have comics here too

In doomsday clock the madman went and ate Batman's pancake

Mahmoud Bedja Boana he must be stopped

Gus fring quote?

Yeah you can break in to someone's flat jack their shit but never I mean never touch another man's beans. That's just wrong.

Mahmoud Bedja Boana no matter who wears the mask, he will find you. And he will eat your food

Whos steve jobs

ligma balls

@@duggeeo4147 *falls to knees* NOOOOOOOOOO!

I thought it's liqma

omg wtf is liqma ???11???

To be fair, they are from the British Isles.

@@sethleoric2598 you wot mate? (i'm allowed to make fun of british people i'm also british)

Thats a strange thing to love.

Didn't an American create Invincible?

Some of Frank Miller's stuff is pretty dark.

hey that's how the relationship with my father went and I turned out ok

Well just don’t bother dating that person 🤷‍♂️

@Mediocre Guitar Guy no shit Sherlock

It's like in Dark, there's nothing he can do about ut

He's not tragic at all

Manhattan get falsely accused of giving cancer and start fucking off on Mars whilst also building sand castle. Now that's some good shit

Feels like the future of Elon musk

Great public speaking skills and story telling too

Even scientific god himself has a midlife crisis

@@yomomma5086 That is seriously not what I said. I said that you can't take control of the media and force everyone to be favorable of a country with which the U.S. has had decades of conflict and disagreement, and with which the U.S. very recently came to the brink of nuclear annihilation. Forcefully removing the outlet to criticize that country is only going to cause tensions to grow in secret and eventually boil over. As well, I'm not a cold war historian, but its clear in the Watchmen universe that dislike for Russia's actions and communism is a sentiment held by every day citizens, not just politicians and 'pockets of distrust'. That sentiment doesn't just disappear, and while no population openly wants nuclear war, the U.S. and Russia conflict already did build up to nuclear war once, to say it could escalate to that point again is not unreasonable.

If the "utopia" is formed in an actual sense, then there wouldnt be a russia, america, etc. But I dont know what the story does with this.

Adrian asks Manhattan "In the end, I did the right thing?" Manhattan responds "in the end? nothing ends Adrian nothing ever ends" This should tell you that Veidt's morals and empire of peace will not last long, it will crumble to time same as the empire of the great pharaoh Ozymandias buried in sand, Manhattan has seen it all.

Rusia indeed must be obliterated

when is that thing about negative stories revealed? I don't remember it

It was “Being an owl gets Dan’s dick hard.” for me.

Dry joke, go back to being dead

"Fine like this."

I was ok with everything else, but it's truly disturbing that Rorschach likes beans. I draw the line of lunacy there. Utter freak.

This vigilante eating beans

And steals sugar

THIS NIGGA EATIN BEANS!

a BEAN

THEY'RE GOOD BEANS, BRONT.

Ah don wan ett!

@@davisjames8484 cheesemaqueen

One time he ate a slice of my pizza, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, I felt powerless, he didn't even asked, I felt broken as each crum pushed my tearing up anxiety, in the end, he just wanted where the bathroom was, he tortured me to know where the bathroom was, why!? 😢🤧

How

@@collectingfilms he’s a man, psychologically disturbed by sex, having delusions about their mothers that have psychologically affected them and their interpretation of the world that they’ve become jaded to in similar ways. Both of them think that the world is a disgusting filthy place and would do something about it if they could

⁠@@SCVMCVNTtravis bickles relationship with his mother was never explored in taxi driver besides the letter he wrote to his parents.

HBO: .......... now bout that. (Proceeds to write one of the most bizarre seasons of television in recent memory, slap a Watchmen coat of paint on it and shove it out the door.)

Modern reviewer : But the HBO Watchmen is so "woke" … derp derp :-)

Alan Moore: ... 🤮

@@spaceclown7650 It is woke, but at the same time it isn't. Just like the original comic that talked about 80's problems, the series does the same, referencing every single problem in America, in both sides without ever showing who is right and who is wrong. Everyone is an asshole at the end and all are hypocrites.

Bingo Bango I like how they have a cult of racist Rorsach’s

True. But he is no more a psychopath than Ozymandias, whose evil is sadly often sugar coated and de-emphasized because he did it for such and such reasons. Or Dr. Manhattan, who - if we are to judge him by "real life" standards like we to with Rorschach - is an unstable monster, constantly degenerating into something less and less human. And no one can tell when he is so far gone, that his priorities are completely separate, or even opposite from, humans. A bigot who breaks the fingers of thieves and murderers is, by comparison, nothing to get riled up over.

@@carljosephfriedrich8919 Certainly. But my point is not to say that Rorschach is more or less a bad person in comparison to Ozymandias, a man who killed 3 million people and traumatized millions more. My point is that Rorschach is not the kind of person I would deem worthy of idolizing. Yes, he has a strict moral code, which I suppose is admirable and he kicks the shit out of people, which looks cool, but calling him the "true hero" of the story rubs me the wrong way. In fact, I don't really see any characters in here who I would say should be idolized. The end of the story even tries to cast doubt on whether Ozy did "what was necessary." Ultimately, nobody really has the moral high ground in this situation.

@@jellyjeffrey7350 I think your position is the right one. I agree that Rorschach can not be seen as someone to be idolized. Concerning those who call him their favorite character; I think they unwittingly ignore some of his terrible traits, while "honing in" on his vigilante traits - traits and actions which are often somewhat admired by "the common man", such as vengeance against criminals, moral certitude, willingness to sacrifice oneself, etc. I certainly recognize these as traits I can respect, although Batman is the better incarnation of them. I'm also suspecting that the Watchmen movie has affected some of the perception of Rorschach. Its portrayal of the character was quite a bit less of an misanthrope, with a stronger focus on his actions as "cool". To me, Rorschach is a more adept version of a Charles Bronson character. All his characters are basically middle-aged/old men, using extreme violence to get vengeance on a person or group which has wronged him. Vigilantes like these will always appeal to our desire to see evil-doers treated harsher than what they get. But of course, Rorschach is a quite twisted version of this;)

Shows how right-wing our society is that a character like him can be seen as heroic. A literal communist can write a satire of objectivism and people will take it as praise.

@@burner1303 I think someone viewing the character as heroic is separate from the political tendencies of our time. The traits in the him that are most often seen as positive, are traits which people on both sides of the spectrum may value. Arguing that it's simply a right-wing misinterpretation (lack of knowledge, etc.), paints a picture of a monolithic left and right where no opinions differ between in-group members. Such a perspective would fit Rorschach more than real life;) If a certain human desire for vengeance against criminals is completely absent from the left, then we have turned into a brain dead mush. If the right are the only ones who value focus and single minded determination, then they are correct when they call us spineless. If a clear moral compass, and the strength to endure pain for those morals, are not on the left - then the left will die. And in the end, it's completely irrelevant what political "bent" Alan Moore has. If you portray a character with traits and values, they are going to be liked or disliked by different people. For legitimate reasons. I dislike Ayn Rand, and I dislike the characters in her books. I think many comic book creators are naive, overly flamboyant and annoying - and yet I like the characters they create - when there's something to them. My appreciation of such characters can not be limited to what inner political message said creators had at the time. That would be against human nature. Sorry for the wall of text. Have a nice night!

The Boys were good for a while precisely until they kept going in line with the "realistic dark edgelord shit". As soon as they decided to go full on Supernatural mode, we got the ending of S3

⁠@@1v966better then the comics where there is a rape every issue

@@albertwesker6153 yep, its the reason why I ran away from the show, because of the comic. It's not "Superheroes as complex humans with their own goals, desires, ideals etc." It's just a guy who hates superheroes and decided to make them the most edgiest, pieces of crap, scum, who do the most vilest and inhuman things and just uses shock value every time. It was just plainly superheroes bad in the worst most and most gory way possible to the point it doesn't make sense (did vought pick all their heroes from Prisons and asylums!?!?). It pains me that it gets the attention it has cause it is horrible but eh.

@@bossman0116 well one reason the show gets some much attention is because they made it a satire of superheroes and society. Another reason is because of those terrible sigma male memes, people see homelander as a sigma male even though he’s a deranged psychopath. While I do like the show I get what you mean, I think I and other people liked it was because it was different from the other superhero stuff at the moment. But yeah the watchmen is the best for a “realistic” look on superheroes.

What's ironic is those calling others edgelords are often themselves just as fucking cringey.

Yes! This was PERFECT for me to understand the new series!

our boi is gooood

The man who made this is kind of brilliant himself, and watchmen is clearly brilliant.

Agreed

I agree. It was recommended to me to Alt Shift X. I missed it like the person above.

That might have been the funniest one-liner in the whole thing. XD

I mean your interpretation of wizard is different from Moore’s.

@@superdragonz1 and what is Moore's interpretation of a wizard then?

Also he believes in a fricking snake God the man's a master on the comic genre but a bit of a nutcase

@@inigobantok1579 The snake god thing isn't the weird part. Alan Moore doesn't believe that the god he worships is real; it's well known that Glycon was a snake puppet used to con Ancient Romans into giving their money and sex to priests. Moore just says he worships an obvious hoax snake because he finds it just as likely as someone creating the universe.

What a place to find a comment from my favorite sleep podcast

Unless you watch the movie a second time

Excellent analysis! It is like how Undertale can’t be adapted either. That game is so integrated in its medium through its themes and story that something always fades in adaptation.

@@ledetbrothers9210 No one is trying to adapt Undertale lol

@@hydrocritical2268 Yeah but you see my point right?

@@ledetbrothers9210 no

Yee

It was satisfying he killed Rorschach

People are using his moral standard as an excuse to make Ozy's moral standard superior to Rorschach.. I observed that they always miss Comedian's role in this moral debate.. because if you say that Rorschach is wrong because he only sees black and white, then you can't argue the same with Comedian.. because Comedian isn't black and white.. yet he would've done what Rorschach would, and that is to tell the truth regardless of the outcome.. that's why Ozy killed him before he could speak up about it.. Comedian is a real piece of human garbage but we can't deny the fact that when he learned about the truth, he is willing to have a change of heart and fight for these people who will be sacrificed for the greater good.. he never got to do that though because he was killed immediately but you got the point.. at the end of the day, this is basically the Trolley Problem in Ethics but the way people use Rorschach's flawed moral standard to make Ozy's flawed moral standard a superior one, disregarding the fact that Comedian would've sided with Rorschach even though both of them have different moral standards.. I really think Comedian's role is the best one here.. forget about his shitty attitude because it doesn't affect his stance on morality.. he is the most loyal person in the group.. he did all the dirty work.. but when he found out the truth.. he felt like everything he did was for nothing.. Comedian doesn't see people as just pawns, but he was blinded and deceived that what he was doing was good.. he is like most people, who will just go with the flow but will experience a traumatic shock once their reality has been shattered by the truth.. that's why I think most people are forgetting about his role in Watchmen.. because everything is masked underneath his horrible personality..

I mean what crap has rorsach really done other than beat up criminals?

Snyder doesn't understand Rorschach

​@@eyjay1508...expose a conspiracy that killed millions? While the rest of the "good" characters joined and let it happened? I dunno. What a fucking lunatic.

⁠@@eyjay1508 he’s literally portrayed as a racist, sexist, far right nut job who beats up random people in the street, he’s very obviously not a good guy and idk how one can see him as that if you read the book

smitty voller Great observation

Very interesting idea!!!

Both are violent solutions to nuanced problems … true. But both are also effective solutions. Alexander is credited as "solving" the Gordian Knot when no one else could. Ozymandias clearly prevents nuclear Armageddon and saves the world … at least for the time being (depending on which random crank file article the goofy newsboy decides to publish). Like you I also noticed the Gordian Knot motif behind Ozymandias during his moment of triumph. I agree it seems like a pretty clear analogy for Ozy's master plan. Interestingly, it brought back the idea that he was a modern Alexander the Great … he had originally started his career by "walking in the footsteps of Alexander" but if you remember he discovered Rameses II at some point and decided Rameses II was a far greater leader than Alexander and modelled himself after that guy. Hence the Egyptian temple style of his Antarctic base, rather than a Macedonian temple of the sort that Alexander the Great would have built.

@darth g0ldaR if this is satire, it's badly done.

darth g0ldaR He’s talking about you, dickhead. Stop spamming the comment section because you’re not fond of the creator

I'm glad they found something after the dumpster fire that GoT S08 was.

Absolutely, and an excellent breakdown of a comic book that's really hard to summarise.

@@OllyWood688 let's just not talk about it anymore

@@RUDEMusicUS that which has not to be mentioned, done by those who deserver eternal shame

Hear hear

It is 2020 and the HBO series is still shit.

Rorschach’s journal August 2020 confused after this complex Philosophy must study more

YES!!! ❤️

i just came to say that i main yorick as well

Lol

It doesn't matter if he is reading that POV chapter of Hodor, as long is in that voice.

Plus he can still make got videos after the sixth book is out(if it's ever out)

Lol one could extend your comment to include HBO as well.

100%

I think the creator of this vid was projecting.

Me after hearing that: "You know, I'm something of a god myself."

I'm not 😭😭

@darth g0ldaR Explain please.

Never eat a man's beans.

uhhh... they did at one point call her ms. jupiter instead of juspeczyk lol

@@Viridian02 yeah I know about that, that was one of my least favorite aspects of the movie

@@duckitydoo lol fair enough

@@ghoul5371 if my memory serves me correctly, Laurie’s mom directly denied being Polish but Laurie doesn’t, in direct response to her mother

If you know the tropes and clichés (specifically DC) of western comics this would be even more better.

my high school's library had a copy of Mein Kampf. i moved it to the section with the "choose your own adventure" books.

@@figjam9530 that IS CRAZY BRO!!! Hahaha wow I’m shocked lolz out of curiosity what country hahah

I live in America and this too happened. I even remembered they had a copy of Catcher in the Rye too, so I guess my school didn’t hold back at all.

Haha little funny life stories like this makes three internet worth visiting:”)

If he prolong it and warm it up, will that help?

It is 15 seconds from now. I have orgasmed.

The new watchmen comic is so good

RIP Watchmen :(

@@PorungaSan even when Disney is not involved, the internet makes sure disney is the villain. Essentially DC started a new line called doomsday clock set after watchmen

Doomsday Clock, aka, Geoff Johns shouts, "Look what you made me do" at a Alan Moore who rolls his eyes and says, "I was telling you not to do it, champ."

Doomsday Clock is an incredible and significantly better story. Ozy's plan was never going to work, it was always a temporary false peace. Doomsday Clock just showed what was always going to happen.

Truth

Should be kept in a capsule for the next 500 years to come

@@ynog0978 for sure

@@ynog0978 there won't be a "next 500 hundred years"

@@thehatrat6682 um...

I thought the squid was better, and the movie lost something for blaming it on Manhattan instead. Sure, Manhattan as a scapegoat is more narratively compact, since his work on energy is a plot thread brought up earlier in the movie, but it loses something from the book, from the sheer cartoonishness of an evil genius monologuing on dropping a giant squid on New York at the climax of a gritty deconstruction of superheroes.

I liked it more at first, since it sidesteps the complications introduced by something as idiosyncratic as a giant space squid. However, on re-reading the book I prefer the squid. The big problem with pinning it on Dr. Manhattan is that he is explicitly *not* a neutral force. He was employed as a weapon by the US government for years. Pinning the attack on him runs the risk of it being seen as a false flag attack that would actually stoke the nuclear tensions. Moreover, Dr. Manhattan himself would be a huge loose end. The original plan still requires Dr. Manhattan's complicity and silence, the movie plan would require complicity and silence while the world is actively trying to investigate, interrogate, capture, or destroy Dr. Manhattan, and so he would have more incentive to break his silence. In the original plan, he basically gains nothing from revealing the truth, so it's reasonable for Ozymandias to count on his cooperation. Lastly, and admittedly this is more subjective, but the squid monster is more fitting to the grandiose image Ozymandias cultivated for himself. He considers himself a living legend, who will stand among the greats in history. Having the intelligence to nuke a city and blame it on someone else is one thing. Having the intelligence to coordinate the creation of a skyscraper sized monster , teleporting it, and keeping all of this a secret, is so over the top that it goes from brilliance to egomaniacal self indulgence.

​@@trafficcone5449 Also, without the genetic engineering required to create the squid, the existence of Bubastis makes no sense. It's a minor point, but I think it's indicative of how the movie fails to understand the story.

I totally agree with you. It's a much smarter idea; believable, set up better, and something Dr Manhattan wouldn't see coming. Much, much better.

it actually makes less sense. Manhattan is gone so why is a truce necessary? Plus manhattan leaving in this version is far more in line with his worldview. The dichotomy between Rorschach and Ozymandias is something Manhattan cannot comprehend because its not something he can logic away.

also him in doomsday clock : everything ends

Bingo. Was a tad disappointed he left that out, but still an awesome video anyway.

I've only read Pet Sematary - Got any Stephen King recommendations/favorites?

@@annabellelin7730 green line is awesome and the shining is a classic

And these days, both King and Moore are batshit crazy.

Also, world's end occurs on November 1st (11/1, 11+1). Then, a new cycle starts over.

@@HoOmBrEdEaCciOoN Hey, that's a great detail!

@@HoOmBrEdEaCciOoN By the way, I forgot to mention another detail related to a watch. The former group were the Minutemen.

that's an amazing analysis

Same goes for the comic within the comic: All about time running out; intersecting the main narrative like a full hour bell chime. Also: Foreshadowing the violent "solution" to the doomsday clock, as doom to the town people is to be prohibited literally over a heap of dead bodies (the raft made out of corpses).

^ ^ ^ This is great and should be carved in stone on a monument somewhere. Not necessarily a giant telepathic squid monument. Any monument will work.

I used to think that my life is a tragedy but now I realize it's a freaking comedy.

Joaquin Phoenix IS SQUID!

It was also debunked (the idea that no one intervened). There weren't many people in the vicinity, and most of them either didn't hear a thing or thought it was a drunk quarrel or something like that and dismissed it. Some called the police, unsure about what they had witnessed, some called some friends and decided to call the police on their advice. When the attacker came back after grabbing something to mask his face, she had a punctured lung and apparently couldn't have been able to shout, she was also out of view from anyone. When people realized what truly happened it was too late

@Thunder Spartan Are any of them really heroes?

@Thunder Spartan Or was he playing a fantasy?

@@kylemendoza8860 depends on your point of view. You WATCH from your viewpoint. Moore answers the question of who watches the Watchmen. We do.

Lordt, revenge "porn" is the worst motivator. I saw the Kitty Genovese documentary as well! So Boondock Saints seemed a tad excessive lol

Lmfaooo right?! I thought that too

To be fair, Rorschach was looking for beans.

Me and the boys when half of New York is killed

Because it's an 80s superhero comic?

@@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 lmfaooooooo

I think it's also worth pointing out that for all Veidt's intelligence, the person who realized and pointed out the problem in the first place was not Veidt, it was the Comedian, whose brutal sort-of-comedic delivery jolted Veidt out of his complacency ("you'll be the smartest man on the cinder"). His irreverent approach to the world let him cut through to the guts of issues.

​@@purplelibraryguy8729 in the comic he said that to Captain Metropolis, not Ozzy.

@@christiaanbruin4989 No he didn't. He was talking to both of them, but Ozymandias was already going with the whole "smartest man in the world" schtick; that particular line was spoken to him. Ozymandias was left looking thoughtfully at the burned map, and I'm pretty sure it was explicitly stated that that was what got him thinking about the issue.

Same here Doc Same here. If I was Manhattan I would be everywhere but here. Andromeda.. Jupiter.. float through Saturn's Rings.. explore whatever the hell the Great Attractor is..

Good one, my dude. Relevant meme

"Aight, Imma head out"

Anyone with a brain can relate to that.

Ozymandius: "im gonna drop a psychic squid on manhattan that will kill millions." Dr Manhattan: "ight, ima head out."

He also completely fucked up Adrian's worldview, which drove him to do what he did. The Comedian is amazing and is more central to this story than you realize when you first finish the comic.

A puppet show.

I think it was because he lost his innocence as a child and the event that drove him mad was the death of a child. Children are the only people he feels empathy towards.

@@carolfromhr9900 Which is something that makes him pretty quickly a lot more compelling.

I thought that he came just to call her a [you know what] and expose her lie in front of her kids 💀

Sry, what did you say? I was licking his feet.

I Mean if You do You won't Have to do His Laundry Anymore..

Send me that funny forward again, Dwight!

You are Goddamn right.

Looking at the noose: we will have to postpone for a couple of months.

*In Gary Oldman scream in Leon: The Profesional=> "... EVERYONE!"

Who needs them if they are not narrated by Alt Shift X?

We've moved on to The Boys now though. Unless something better comes along.

DC was dark before it was cool 😎

@Joe Mama you don't get it because you are small brain. ( and that rorschach isn't the real one )

Rorshach is dead in doomsday clock, the new one is a man named Reggie. In issue 4 it's revealed that he is the son of the prison therapist Rorshach talked to in the original watchmen graphic novel.

@@2d_899 Right you are. I remember when Doomsday Clock started and we saw a Rorshach I was thinking "That better not be Walter. They better not retcon his death." Cause you know DC and there retcons.

@@renegadedjinn5325 Doomsday clock is my favorite comic series ever, (besides watchmen) . I was very happy to see how well written the series was with the new Rorshach, and also Ozsymandis getting more (screen time?).

they're meant to not have powers, but in the movie the comedian punches through a wall so fuck me

@@scoutbite4334Yeah in the movie they were definitely all really strong compared to normal humans

Thanos is the original Thanos

I always hated that character especially seeing he had no powers but somehow was faster than a bullet and take on Rorshach and owl easily at the same time. I wonder if Moore made him the worst character on purpose to add to the fact he was behind everything

@Herbett, Darkseid is the original Thanos

Mikey Estee The concept and philosophy for the film Thanos was done with Ozymandias first.

@@theblackflame4002 He had a bionic arm after "catching a bullet" the first time remember.

I ventured this far down in the comments looking for someone to say just this... because the omission of that detail is the one thing that really bothered me about this synopsis. Maybe because it was too obvious?

Didn't see it before. Can't be unseen now. Awesome!

Yes,Manhattan's father was a watch maker.the whole dang story is about watches/time/past/present/future.

I will leave this comment at 360 likes to represent 360 degrees like a watch

Paul Boyd It also kinda bothered me he didn’t mention Rorschach’s mask, where he got the material from (Kitty Genovese dropped it off at the cleaners, made from an experimental Veidt material) or that it is constantly changing, but symmetrical like a Rorschach blot

For real; that's the most impressive thing about the video

the movie is certainly an impressive piece of propaghanda

Serious. His breakdowns are through and thoughtfu without being condescending.

What if he told you to hide in some bushes naked and watch men?

Yessss

THIS!!!

You should See the movie before the series start if not, try to read the comic

G is the movie pretty good? And in line with alt x’s explanation of the comic?

A R yes it is, Is really long and if You see the version which included the Freighter comic is longer 😂

@@AR-io8fv stick to the comic

@@vlc-cosplayer no

So berserk but DC?

@@thepastaprogenitor851 berserk is death

Like literally it's AMAZING MOVIE I didn't like it either and I was like 20

Bringing your 11 yo to watch watchmen is insane

I’m still judging you for walking out cuz ???? What lol

P W, some of his points kinda didn’t feel right with me, I read the book only once and I got different vibes. I’m gonna read it again and see where I leave off 👍

Art is subjective. I appreciated his take on it myself

Reading Dr Manhatten's background chapter in particular blows me away every time. I can't believe how clever, but understandable, but fun, but philosophical, it all is. It's one of the best things I've ever read. Totally stacks up against great novels. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker.

@@johnnydkota5709 It definitely is, and I'm not hating on the video. Just saying its such a great comic that there are layers that go even deeper. When you put your heart into something like Alan Moore clearly has, you definitely have themese in mind, and youre trying to figure how best to convey those themes. So i half agree with what you said. A big part of it is subjective, and the other is the writer's intention. Some of what i said I feel confident saying that was what he intended. Still gave your post a thumbs up though, so to be clear this isn't intended to be an attack on you comment :)

@@bravobear1844 if you wanna get back into the comics, besides reading them, I suggest you also check out the motion comics on youtube. It's done really well, and covers more than the film did, as it's set up like the comics meaning each video is like reading one watchmen comic. You miss out on a lot of the text, like hollis mason's book intro, the black freighter, some stuff of night owl, Ozzymandius's p.o.v. on choice and his intelligence, but all in all a fun way to revisit the story. The voice acting is meh, but doesnt take away from it IMO and animation is actually really impressive.

Sergeant Pete my favourite part of the story.😂😂

Yes!

I read the Watchmen back when they released it as a graphic novel. Rorschach was always my favorite character. In small part because I used to be the sort who would get into fights on weekends, so the violence aspect didn't phase me. But mainly, I think, because of the black/white "justice" part of his character. Trust me, I don't think things should be BLACK or WHITE. You have to have some shades of grey. But even back then more and more of our justice system, and society in general was becoming more and more monotone grey. People getting off for horrific crimes on technicalities etc. It has only deteriorated since then. The themes of this story have not gone away. They are still swirling around through society, just mixed with a lot more technology.

@@sergeantpete6295 Borrowing from another persons' comment above - "This is what Alan Moore said about people that unironically like Rorschach: "I wanted to kind of make this like, ‘Yeah, this is what Batman would be in the real world.’ But I had forgotten that actually to a lot of comic fans that smelling, not having a girlfriend-these are actually kind of heroic. So actually, sort of, Rorschach became the most popular character in Watchmen. I meant him to be a bad example, but I have people come up to me in the street saying, ‘I am Rorschach! That is my story!’ And I’ll be thinking, ‘Yeah, great, can you just keep away from me and never come anywhere near me again for as long as I live?’”

@@ArawnOfAnnwn Well, saying that he is my favorite character in the story doesn't mean I stopped bathing, left my wife, and wander around breaking people's fingers for information. There is a big difference between getting in some fights in my teens and early twenties, and finding criminals and killing them. I am not Rorschach, nor am I anything like him. That doesn't mean I can't believe our justice system should be a little more focused on punishing criminals instead of making excuses for them, giving them a slap on the wrist and telling them not to be a bad boy anymore. To be clear, I'm not talking about sending a teenager with a couple of bags of pot to prison. But I do hear about convicted rapists and murderers, people who committed violent robberies etc., who are out on the streets a few years later doing the same or worse all the time. Anyway, I wasn't putting Rorschach on a pedestal. The themes he represents just resonate with me more strongly than the other characters.