@AsianBoss we need an update of where Chul-eun Lee is nowdays!

Except for that BS about the buybull. Other cults are banned as well, of course. And NO! that OF COURSE doesn't make it an "atuist cuntry" because they are brainwashed to "worship" their own "supreme being". The only difference is, this one actually exists....

@@WilbertLekthe bible? im confused as to why youve chosen to miss spell these words. are you mocking him?

lmfao

He was concerned he couldn't speak very well. He spoke beautifully. Amazing story

@@gmoney6075 Wilbert Lek is being a bigot and a troll trying to mock people of faith. It sounds like the people worshiping in the Christian church were executed or enslaved for their faith. Same attitude of hate and intolerance on display, Wilbert Lek is just being too small-minded to realize it.

seriously. i havent watched a full youtube video in a very long time. usually i skip around. i looked down at the 30 minute mark and thought i was only 5 minutes in. absolutely amazing story teller.

They are not defectors. They are surivors

@@gubeym same

I thought I'd watch a little bit of the beginning and maybe skim along, but I was captivated by the storytelling and watched the whole thing without a stop.

exactly

Unlike you

@@mryellow9655 awesome response! You really got him there! Wow!

@@mryellow9655 Looks like we've uncovered another Trump voter. "Unlike You? Where do you get off with that? I agree with Gates 100%

@@johnnyohness go cry

He is a SS officer equivalent in NK. He describes crimes againts humanity he parted like fun stories in his job. No remorse, no regret. I heard tons of NK dectors saying how they hate the organization he worked in.

He should become a diplomat for South Korea since he could facilitate a better relationship with North Korea.

@@flytink1 I don't think North Korea would like to talk with him in any way that is well mannered.

@@dennisddt1146 lol well he can pretend he’s a double agent and tell N. Korea he defected so they could have a man on the inside. Then he can feed N. Korea just enough intel to be convincing so they trust him as an agent. But not enough to give away truly important state secrets. Even if N. Korea was mad he defected, his intel is too valuable to pass up! At least they’d cooperate with him. In fact, if I’m North Korea, I’d send over a spy who supposedly “defected”. The defector would have an interesting, harrowing story and then try to work his way into a gov’t position in South Korea. Lmao I’m not siding with N. Korea but if they’re smart, that’s what they should do. If I’m South Korea, if I find out there’s a spy for North Korea working in South Korea’s CIA or NSA, I’d turn them into a double agent. They could serve as a back channel and they can plant false intel to mislead N.Korea. You could say, “what’s the point in all this?” The point is to gather intel on North Korea and to have another back channel or point of communication. Nobody’s going to learn anything worth knowing about North Korea while sitting at a conference table at the DMZ! If you poke a hole in a dam, you create a leak. The dam loses a little water but if your main goal is to break down the dam wall, it’s a small win! The only way you can defeat your enemy is by learning everything you can about them. Aside from their nuclear weapons program, the most valuable intel to gather would be on their infrastructure, GDP, trade relations, etc. North Korea’s only hope of survival is opening their borders to trade. But I guess if their country as a whole becomes stronger, the Kim family regime becomes weaker. That’s probably why they keep N. Korea so isolated. But N. Korea has a wealth of natural resources, so realistically, because their economy is so underdeveloped and they have an agrarian society, this is their most valuable commodity.

@@flytink1 yeah i doubt the north would take kindly to a defector being a diplomat.

And he still could be a spy? Maybe because he’s such a great analyst, he was sent to SK as a spy with a cover as a defector

I like how you point out he objectively assesses, which if you think of it, thats what spy’s do. That’s what intelligence officers have to do. He cuts through and just see’s it.

Wonder how many deaths he has on his hands

@@pyrrosdimas5798 You wouldn't have done anything else in his position.

yeah - that mindset helped him see through the north korea propaganda

@@oliver24x I would, but I guess that's my family and there is a reason why a part was deported in Siberia by communist's.

xDD

😂🤣

haha, same

😂😂😂

love that your used "whilst".

I thought the same thing. What a waste of talent and experience. I look forward to him realizing his dream of his own English-based UKposts channel.

There is a lot of prejudice and fear towards North Koreans in South Korea, partly because they don’t trust that they’re not spies. They are also assumed to be unintelligent because education is extremely lacking for most North Koreans, and even if they’re “lucky” enough to be educated, it’s full of propaganda and lies. It’s unfortunate that they’re stigmatized for something that want no part of.

North Koreans are stigmatized in South Korea. Most work poorly paid unstable jobs or sell their bodies, typically only the really goodlooking ones become highly paid live streamers

Maybe he could apply for a job with the US Dept of State as a consultant. His knowledge would be from a true insider's.

No apologies and no remorse from his side. His organization executes and kills innocent people.

I didn't really understand that part. Does having long legs make it easier to avoid mines somehow? Or did they just get lucky?

@@parkpatt if his friend steps on a mine, only his friend dies, because his legs are further away from them

@@Azrazel_qwp wow. Thanks for explaining. What a heroic thing to do.

@@Jay-pm9gh how horrible and strange. Can you share the link to the article?

@@Jay-pm9gh istnt it that the dude just escaped the same year? he is not necessarily mr Lee's friend

The West has done extensive analysis. In the first two weeks of a war situation, North Korea could do a lot of damage to South Korea, in particular the Seoul area. After that it would stop pretty quick, and they would be forced into a defence situation. After 4 - 6 weeks the US had converted the entire North Korea to farmland and rocks, without using any atomic bombs. I can hear in him the same sentiments that many East Germans have/had.

@@krollpeter When nothing is certain, anything is possible.

@IAm Nana No need to think the other countries were any better when they developed their atomic bombs. The US for example exposed hundreds of soldiers in different locations to tests. They let them view the explosion from near, as an example. Of course they claimed at that time it was not known how dangerous the radiation is. That however is BS. No excuse for these inhumane experiments and incidents. It seems when it comes to national interests, governments thinking is like: A sacrifice but we have to do it for the greater good.

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i posts like this should be auto-removed. You can not state someone is lying without saying why you think this.

I don't think any knowledgeable person is in doubt that North Korea can do a lot of damage/win a battle or two BUT they don't have enough resources or allies to win an actual war. Having lived in South Korea several years, I never truly worried about NK attacking because they know good and well, they day they attack is the day they die. As long as the rich stay rich like this guy talked about, they're not going to be interested in dying.

TRUTH

Yeah … he comes across as a classic adventurer and dreamer or seeker … I agree … grafting in South Korea will disappoint him … I like the guy’s style. Cudos to him

I have no idea what he is saying and relying on subtitles but the way he speaks and his inflection are captivating for some reason. I found myself turning it up to hear better even tho i am just reading it lol.

Looks like he has more social skills than the StarCraft players from South Korea

I agree with your observation, he will probably emigrate to Japan or China next.

Indeed.

also Love from Washington State in the U.S.A.

onga pre kaya makikiangkas ako sa kasikatan ng 2k likes ng comment mo. His life in NK and escape could be a good movie / autobiography documentary. South Korea film makers needs to see this very thrilling spy like setting. This interviewer is very good the interactions, conversation and questions are on point. Very informative. 31:00 para sainyo to fellow peenoise 🇵🇭 na mga adik at sinasamba ang kpop / kdrama. Hanapin nyo mga testimonies ng ating ibang kababayan o kahit ibang foreigners na nanirahan sa South Korea ng makita niyo gaano kababa tingin nila satin lalo na sa mga ofw dun na mga minimum wage / workforce / domestic helpers. Tingin nila satin mga tools, modern slaves kasi kahit anong trabaho kahit gaano kadumi at kababa gagawin natin kasi wala eh alang alang sa pamilya sa pinas na kesyo mababa dito sa South Korea eh mataas naman kikitain kumpara sa Pinas kaya tanggapin nalang mga pang aalipusta ng koreano. Fight me triggered dudongs come comment

Yeah this was the most genuine and fair interview I’ve ever seen with a defector. Great stuff and I hope to see more, I hope this guy ends up being able to make that UKposts channel, I’d definitely be a watcher

Are you aware that he and his organisation took part in crimes against humanity where innocent people get executed or put into concentration camps? No apologies, no remorse.

I was working with a south korean organization that help NK defectors for few months, the org. called PSCORE… tbh his story of escaping is one of the fastest one, which makes me kinda doubting him. I know for normal people it’s really hard to swim for that long, but i’ve heard stories that are worse than his. Because others have to go through either china or russia before reaching SK, others even have frostbite while escaping, and once they escape it’s also hard to keep contact with family etc… that’s why it’s kinda hard for me to trust him.

@@tatiairwinn do you think his fast escape might be because he was in the top 10% and was able to access or ask around for more information on the fastest route compared to the everyday north korean? That's what I'm guessing at least

@@naritruwireve1381 probably. Maybe because of luck as well. However, that is not the only thing that makes him seems fishy.

But this wouldn't make him look fishy, of he just is smart and looks for the fastest way? ​@@tatiairwinn

probably because its in-line with his previous work that he knows that knowledge and base on experience. they have different education system there after all

@@chaosghostring9682 True, but my point is while he says "simple" as almost derogatory towards himself. It is an incredible strength lacking in most adults today.

Simple doesnt have to mean a retard ... And the things he knows must have something to do with the fact that he was planning to leave North Korea , isnt it ??

@@brettwilson5389 simple means different from where you, me, him and others came from. being simple depends on your experience and background, simple for you might be eating a bucket of chicken but for some simple can only be eating a fried egg. simple knowledge for you might be how to file taxes, but most dont know that. it depends on perspective as relation to background and experience :)

Yeah... he clearly had at least a passing knowledge of how torture works *sweat drop*

@Kirk Wolfe Well said though

@Kirk Wolfe They keep going because the system like this is implemented and a new change could risk bloody civil war and lots of refugees the other asian countries do not want. Also north korea totaly missed the the point where they could modernise at least a bit. The constant comparison with germany is nonesense because germany before the division reached a certain level of industrial development and so did some other eastern european countries like poland, Czech, hungary and others which are do overall good these days again. The eastern european countries who didn't reached that level suffer till today from communism days. There are certain steps in devleopment which have to be done in certain time frames and if you do not you never will able to keep up. One of these steps was the industrial revolution in 19th century and the next big one is now the digital revolution. Also majority of the world is going down and not up. It always goes in cycles of 70-100 years. Usually at that time there had been wars and cards new mixed and new growing after because everything had been destroyed. Thanks to nuclear weapons no direct wars anymore between the super powers and because of that it is not exploding but imploding, and governemnts do war against their own puplic in cooperation with big companies. Yet because it is so clever intelligent portraied majority doesn''t realise it. We are in the beginner phase of the biggest economy crash ever happend and the biggest experiment of humankind considering scoiety transformation and technology development. In retro-perspectiv Trump wasn't such a desaster as he is portraied, because he tried to prevent that, but had come too late into power and had no idea how political power is gained and used inside the institutions (and has no manners). He is not part of the real deep state ochestraiting all this, which is why he had be removed. It was pure luck he won the first election because establishment was sure they would win.

@Alexander Samuseu Stanislav Kurilov decided to leave the USSR because he was an oceanographer who kept getting excluded from overseas projects due to the authorities restricting him from a visa due to his Chemical Warfare instructor military experience/family who emigrated/dad who was a POW in WW2. He jumped off a USSR cruise ship with a snorkeling mask and fins off the coast of Siargo Island, Phillipines but due to storm conditions and strong currents he was out at sea for 3 nights, 2 days clinging to a local fishing boat when a Filipino fisherman found him.

@Kirk Wolfe Wow, you sound like you're ready to join the 1984, not so Great Reset team of totalitarians. Please allow me to clue you in on a tiny detail you got wrong; the globalists who it sounds like you're primed to worship want 100% of the world vaccinated so that millions of people are eliminated & they're left with just enough "human capital" as they call us to do their bidding; you need to wake up before you're no longer free to spout such foolishness.

@@sheilacabrera3986 Got vaccinated- doing just fine 😀

amen

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i okay big guy

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i why is that? Could you please elaborate?

There are North Korean and Chinese government commitioned (as well as voluntary Patriotic Chinese) people (spies/hackers) stationed in China whose job is to go on line and try to sway the public opinions towards their regime. They are obviously using psudonames and North Korean ones commonly pretend to be a South Korean. They usually say things on comment sections to change the opinions of the people towards more positive image of North Korea. So one needs to be decerning as to which comment could be made by such people when faced with crazy or questionable comments.

ikrrrrrr

I mean 8 hours does sound unrealistic. Can someone really swim 8 hours long? Probably with tides, I would be tired in less than 30 minutes. It could be true but I have my doubts

Sad that our movies are generally well below an interview. Network paparazzi here wouldn’t have done a good interview either.

Why don't you contact Yeonmi Park? Or maybe you've done it already 😊

No , just no

They'll still get scarjo to play him

It sure went by fast! Hard to believe it was 40 minutes, seemed more like 10 minutes! Great interview

Isn't telling your story part of healing PTSD though...

@@VitaKet not always. Sometimes, until you find a productive way to talk and break down the trauma, you just relive it every time you talk.

not so honest. when asked about the reason to leave he first talks for 5 minutes about the fact he didn't like rulers calling average people 'garbage' and only after that for a second mentions a real reason - problems with his superior. and i also had a feeling all this interview is of course not the way to tell people about north korea but to get some personal benefits i.e. media coverage.

His biggest culture shock was the move from elitist to peasant!

i dont trust him at all

@@unechka also said he took off his cloths and everything and took off his backpack but when he arrived he said he was in uniform with his ID and knife...

This comment is directed towards all the saps, fools and useful idiots commenting on how enlightened and insightful this guy is, and that suggest that the whole business of the cold war, and the remaining two Koreas, is just some giant unfortunate misunderstanding; that there are good and bad things to be said about both the ROK and the DPRK, and that maybe what we really need is just more "understanding" of North Korea. Let me begin with a little story: Years ago, before I was married, and while working abroad, I had a Chinese girlfriend that was from Dandong (city across the Yalu River from the DPRK, on the Yellow Sea/Wan Hai). She came from a true believing family of CCP members and was an ardent defender of the PRC, although she also lived abroad and was really no communist. She told me of how, during the DPRK famine of the 1990s, ordinary North Koreans would come across the river and appear on the doorsteps of ordinary Chinese in her town, simply wanting something to eat. Eventually, most of these North Koreans would be rounded up by the Chinese police. They would be held in police compounds in Dandong until DPRK police could come across the bridge and collect them. The DPRK police came in a truck. They lined up the handcuffed and starving North Koreans, ran steel shackles through their noses, like oxen, connected them all with a light chain; attached the chain to the truck, and towed them, shuffling, back over the bridge to a DPRK police or military compound where someone walked around with a pistol and shot each one of them in the head. This guy in an ex-DPRK secret policeman. He is a participant in the murder and torture of innocent people--even if his only role was as that of an "investigator"--although he related how his family used to be "stationed" at a DPRK gulag, which he then went on to describe like some sort of kibbutz surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards. His experience of the DPRK was that of the ruling elite, in which he held membership by position of birth. The only reason that he was able to defect as he did was the opportunity afforded him as such. And he was received as a defector in the ROK, and not prosecuted, for the obvious reasons of international politics. He now has to live in South Korean society. That is much more easily done if one is not a pariah. It is for this reason that he soft pedals the horrors of the DPRK as much as he is able, tries to suggest various false equivalencies, and suggests a sort of pan-Korean reconciliation on the basis of the dismissal of a non-existent misunderstanding. Not only is everything he says and does entirely self-serving, I wouldn't be surprised to eventually learn that he is actually still a DPRK agent, although I am aware of no particular evidence of that. Anyone that would like to know more about what this man really did for a living in the DPRK would do well to read The Aquariums of Pyongyang, by Kang Chol-Hwan. And, Asian Boss, maybe you could do an interview with Kang Chol-Hwan. Better yet, maybe you could get Kang and this guy together for a joint interview. They could reminisce about Yodok Prison Camp. Given that you "don't want to vilify North Korea," that ought to be very sweet and poignant.

Seeing as that got interpreted as disrespect to their supreme leader, that's only natural

Rofl..... ha ha. Sad but true

Bro he was so calm and casual about I had to rewind to make sure I heard that right.

​@@sormin3456 Of course, but from a western point of view this is just silly.

@@heret1c385 The United States differs.

If you go to the DMZ you can even see the NKs just working and their houses, it’s a strange feeling how close by they are yet they are living in the past almost.

@@jewellui Or a - dystopian society.

@BenjaminFranklin99 Well, he said that the south korean thermal cameras lost them because of their body temperature going down, so they were close

@BenjaminFranklin99 Yes he did. 17:47

What boggles me is how can they swim for those many hours and don't get hypothermia? and granting he said they have no pants

yea

This really jumped out to me too. This guy really pays attention well

ofc he observes bruh. He is a SPY

Exactly what i got from him

Agreed. I guess that was the perks from who he was back then in North Korea. He is very observant & good at deducing the current situation.

was, or is?

@@faroukabad bum bum bum buuuuuummmm

He sounds like a spy in contrast to other defectors like anomi park

@@suronbru9568 I am not saying that it's impossible, but I am not sure if that's the case. He said bad things about North Korean government (like there is less freedom) and he exposed things that they said, like the fact that NK elite government call lower class citizens "trash".

I was worried going through the comments that I was the only one who got that vibe.

I didn't even what that this is a 40 minute long video, until I saw your comment.

I would've happily listened to this for 2 hrs.

Yeyeye np

i also watched with much higher speed tho hahah

@@kyzcent3061 ikr

Yes I agree, interesting questions, nice pacing and satisfying conversation

Totally Super Agree

She’s probably brought to a camp though

@@RubelliteIsHere most likely publicly executed to serve as examples for other north koreans trying to defect. Its just a matter of choice whether to continue living in the "perfect" north korea jong un empire or try to see some change at the south side of their fence. I bet if his father was still alive he will stay there. Looks like he and his father are very close. If i were him i'd probably wait until my mom dies then i'll go

@@kakashihatake1869 He will be 50 years old then. Maybe he will die when swimming to South Korea. If I was him I will say goodbye then go

No, it doesn't hit that hard. It is like me sort of wishing to taste that soviet ice cream again. It was pretty damn nice, I swear. This shouldn't hit hard. Any mother who isn't shot by the regime after such a high standing son has escaped the country is to be seen as extremely high ranking person. (Edit: she hasn't even been declassified, as far as I can understand from this interview, which is MUCH stronger fact). She embodies the elite of NK, the very people who make that country so dreaded by all.

@@RubelliteIsHere FeelsBadMan

I think it was cleaned up a bit. He used phrases such as "kind of like", "and all that", "and whatever", "for real", etc. (I could hear that because these types of expressions are very similar indeed to Japanese, which I do know.) He is definitely using a lot of phrases that an NCO would use. Basically, he seems like a salt-of-the-earth - getting by on his wits - type of person. That's my take.

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the MSM dominated by american news corporation won't tell you of their deep collusion. The american government supports the kim dictatorship while still having military bases posted in the south. It's their best interest to keep the conflict going.

@@winstond4445 true because a conflict with someone outside unites the home. If there is no one on the outside, the home divides starting inner conflicts. Conflict is just human nature.

That sentence is like a double edged sword.

Among Us in a nutshell

... said the spy. This dude is a spy, reading from a script

@@solmoman ...writes the guy who really must be so much smarter than everyone else to be able to dismiss everything he's shared and just go on "well, he was a spy, so he is a spy, so he is just reading a script".

@@solmoman Prove it.

stories like Lee Chul Euns raise attention in the eyes of fake news investigators like me, and this fake news is easy to debunk. juyst google 'Lee Chul Eun escapes North Korea, and not a single fox, cnn, aljazeera, rt, or bbc, or even korean news article pops up.. just 'asian boss' who is living from youtube earnings, and willing to get his disco dancing boyfriend to pretend to be an ex north korean spy. No North Korean of this name escaped in 2016 or any other year. Lee Chul Eun, is a famous S Korean MMA fighter and also an olympic shooter name, which is where Asian Boss probably made his mistake with this fake news. Google says "Your search - Chul-eun Lee escapes north korea - did not match any news results." So don't you think that proves the event never happened? as swimming to freedom would be jumped on by all major news agencies of the world, if true. But Asian Boss is a fabricator of Fake News, cares more about his youtube earnings than how much he influences his viewers.

@@AjarnSpencer How could you search his name if he is using an alias?

@@AjarnSpencer He is using an alias, he's real name is not public.

Intelligence officers (of any nation) are absolute cnuts, not the erudite, sophisticated and genteel people you imply.

@@AjarnSpencer Lol you didn't even watch the video fully and you don't know that the name is an alias. Mr. "fake news investigator" LMAO

I'm sure, depsite his modesty, he has physical fortitude as well - he must be a catch! Asian Boss: we need a new entry in the dating series!

he's a spy, you dimwit

@@solmoman there is nothing more dimwitted than name-calling, I hope someday you can find a positive outlet for your energy, and maybe even some worthwhile contribution to the world beyond yourself

I wonder how many of these defectors are actually legit and if their credibility are being verified at all. Lots of western media outlets would jump at the chance to capitalise on this and for all we know they could literally just be south koreans that can speak with a northern accent.

@@AW-rv6fz North Koreans are still looked down upon in South Korea.I don't think anyone would fake being North Korean.

he does have a youtube channel if you scroll up to the pinned comments

his friend is doing well. married and have a job. they came out on TV together once. and they both tried to take the credit for escaping the NK in a funny way.

@@AW-rv6fz South korean goverment has a dept dedicated to this kind of matters and they were able to successfully screen all spies out so far. there are some korean Chinese that try to come to South Korea to receive money from South Korean gov. b/c the gov gives you money to settle for a yr and provide housing for a yr. and pays college education for you if you are legit defector. (yeah, once you come to South korea, you receive all these but N korean dont know about this. they were educated that South korean gov will shred them into pieces and take your eyes out) Sout korean gov literally has a list of all population of N Korea, they asked you things like who were your classmates? what are their names? how many kid does your neighbor have. etc.

I knowww

AGREED

Excellent journalist , really skilled.

I had to slow down the speed of the video to be able to keep up with reading it all. It went so fast in some parts!! I wasn’t going to miss what was being said! I was hooked within seconds.

Seriously. Excellent interviewer, and concise interviewee.

just think of all the other great interviews out there that you have not fully watched yet! so much to discover!

@@robopecha yeah,I'd love to do that, I maybe sometimes I just don't find the time or such nice interviews, but this interview was truly insightful :)

same, when i first looked at the video duration i was pretty off to watch but when i was watching i was so engaged i didn't feel bored at all, surprised when it ended.

True, first interview on this channel I didn't even pause....felt like this dude's mindset will bring him places.

me to on the edge of my seat

Not just MSM, but all the news organizations.

Everything he said is lying. i know coz im from korea

Hey Eric, didnt expect to see you here. Love your work in God of War and Tekken videos

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i sometimes you need to be from outside your culture to see things you can’t see from inside. Everyone has blind spots

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i I know there are some things we dont want to accept that hurts our national pride, but we have to admit there is still some form of hostility and discrimination in korean news and society, im saying this as a korean

Same, I forgot about the subtitles, until I read your comment

Vous êtes nord Coréenne aussi ?

@@julien23lastchristmas2 "Of course". They're the mirror of society.

Yes exactly , i was looking for a comment like this one , i 100% agree

You realize the he was Secret Police and that he probably defected as a spy for NK, right?

@@elenabob4953 And you too must realize that I'm just interested in his opinion on outer world, and I'm not nominating him for world president.

@@elenabob4953 he said the south korean went through several months of interrogation. I dont think it would be likely that this 40 minute interview would provide enough information to undermine the months of interrogation they went through

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i how do you know? Are you north korean?

@김시접 you understand you made the interviewee’s point right? Wish you had more brain to realize what you’ve done.

@@heleenblbas8669 Yes im

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i So which parts of the interview did he lie about if you can explain it since you made a pretty different comment from everyone else?

I don't think we can accuse him of lying, nor should we welcome every sentences as undeniable truth. There might be events that were twisted or expressed in a certain way to hide uglier things, there might be parts of the escape that were perceived by him in a given way based on how traumatic and nerve racking of an experience it was, there might even be parts that he can't remember well and romancized a bit. Did he really swim 8 hours in cold water? We can't know for sure how long it took, he definitely didn't start a timer when he left guys.. I mean c'mon. What we do know for sure is that he is insanely brave for risking his life to run away from his comfortable lifestyle to chase the unknown. May it be 100% true, 95% or hell even 50% true, this was a fascinating interview.

I hope so too!

I would love to see him as a guest reporter on Asian Boss..🧡👏👏✌

It is fortunate though that there is no demand for his surveillence skills in South Korea. I don't think his intelligence is wasted, he just hasn't yet figured out what he wants to do with his life.

He would have made an excellent police officer. Perhaps thats why the discrimination happens. Fear of a North Koren elite showing up their cops. But isn't it supposed to be about service to the people of Korea? This is a disservice, to waste these talents. South Korea should have been proud that he would choose to have swam 8 hours in freezing water to wear their uniform... a shame. But he's quite young still. Who knows what the future will bring?

@@Krystalmyth He was doing surveillence on people. Spying on what they do in their personal lives, whether they go to church, what their opinion is about the system. I don't mean to speak against this guy, he's great, but in South Korea there is no equivalent institution conducting such surveillence (as far as I know of), and that's certainly not what police officers do. At best he could be an investigator journalist.

@@tamasmuszbek I'm sure it takes lot of skills to be an intelligent service officer and do your job for years, especially in North Korea. South Korea can definitely use this asset but they are just discriminating and wasting his value. I reckon he could be some sectors of CIA if he had proper language knowledge.

he's truely intelligent. no wonder he got in to Samsung

Yeah his empathy and intellect and self awareness are impressive, those kinds of people are rare in the world itself, let alone an even more propagandized nation

He's a also a lion in terms of participating through his work in prosecuting, torturing and murdering innocent people. It's like saying a Gestapo policeman that left Nazi Germany to live in Argenetina is a well spoken lion.

@@Strokwor It's entirely different. Because North Koreans have no idea of the world outside. No idea of democracy or real freedom. No idea of what is even right or not. They don't believe in God, so they don't care about self righteousness. You have no idea how it is. He had no other choice or chance to live differently. It's all he knew.

@@Strokwor not exactly true, but I wish he was asked more about this stuff. However, I believe that if he would be responsible for murdering and torturing, then he wouldn't be released in the first place. Not everyone in the secret police does such things.

Luckily he decided to flee because he had to do cruel things to poor people, and that talks a lot about him

@@Strokwor Fix your way of thinking please, its broken.

Me too! I was so drawn to the interview.

Me too.Otherwise I sometimes scroll through comments section while watching.

same here, it was such an informative and well executed interview!

yes exacly

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Exactly! he was able to dissect the issue with the south korean media and even compare to his country!

Dude got out of dictator regime and was investigator security officer of course he would have a good perception skills I like this dude Sadly his mother and his family might get killed or executed

Yep he mentions exactly what is wrong with media around the world :)

Maybe he just thinks rationally but not emphatetic. He probably sent a lot of people in prison camps or to get executed during his 20s just because they wanted to freely criticise the government he worked for or follow a religion

@@jojobad1796 that was his job. unless we watched different interviews Im sure you picked up on the fact that they will "weed out" any dissidents or those who aren't doing their job. It was probably his life or theirs. He even mentioned that they report each other so yeah definitely didn't have a say in the matter since he was always being watched

I thought the same thing! Also the point that he made that people actually do not know what the value of freedom is.. "Take a look in North Korea!"

This comment is directed towards all the saps, fools and useful idiots commenting on how enlightened and insightful this guy is, and that suggest that the whole business of the cold war, and the remaining two Koreas, is just some giant unfortunate misunderstanding; that there are good and bad things to be said about both the ROK and the DPRK, and that maybe what we really need is just more "understanding" of North Korea. Let me begin with a little story: Years ago, before I was married, and while working abroad, I had a Chinese girlfriend that was from Dandong (city across the Yalu River from the DPRK, on the Yellow Sea/Wan Hai). She came from a true believing family of CCP members and was an ardent defender of the PRC, although she also lived abroad and was really no communist. She told me of how, during the DPRK famine of the 1990s, ordinary North Koreans would come across the river and appear on the doorsteps of ordinary Chinese in her town, simply wanting something to eat. Eventually, most of these North Koreans would be rounded up by the Chinese police. They would be held in police compounds in Dandong until DPRK police could come across the bridge and collect them. The DPRK police came in a truck. They lined up the handcuffed and starving North Koreans, ran steel shackles through their noses, like oxen, connected them all with a light chain; attached the chain to the truck, and towed them, shuffling, back over the bridge to a DPRK police or military compound where someone walked around with a pistol and shot each one of them in the head. This guy in an ex-DPRK secret policeman. He is a participant in the murder and torture of innocent people--even if his only role was as that of an "investigator"--although he related how his family used to be "stationed" at a DPRK gulag, which he then went on to describe like some sort of kibbutz surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards. His experience of the DPRK was that of the ruling elite, in which he held membership by position of birth. The only reason that he was able to defect as he did was the opportunity afforded him as such. And he was received as a defector in the ROK, and not prosecuted, for the obvious reasons of international politics. He now has to live in South Korean society. That is much more easily done if one is not a pariah. It is for this reason that he soft pedals the horrors of the DPRK as much as he is able, tries to suggest various false equivalencies, and suggests a sort of pan-Korean reconciliation on the basis of the dismissal of a non-existent misunderstanding. Not only is everything he says and does entirely self-serving, I wouldn't be surprised to eventually learn that he is actually still a DPRK agent, although I am aware of no particular evidence of that. Anyone that would like to know more about what this man really did for a living in the DPRK would do well to read The Aquariums of Pyongyang, by Kang Chol-Hwan. And, Asian Boss, maybe you could do an interview with Kang Chol-Hwan. Better yet, maybe you could get Kang and this guy together for a joint interview. They could reminisce about Yodok Prison Camp. Given that you "don't want to vilify North Korea," that ought to be very sweet and poignant.

@@thisisyol I'm not clear on your point. You're German? What does this have to do with the subject at hand?

@@joeanonymous1834 After thinking about it for a bit and being german obviously: "Everything is relative".

@@thisisyol I'm still confused. By the way, were you around during the Third Reich? You're not guilty by blood.

Not me send him back

@@lovesallanimals9948 he wasnt proud of his country tho, he wanted people of the world to see the dangers of underestimating north korea by giving an unbiased view of their accomplishments. why do u say send him back? thats incredibly disrespectful

@@lovesallanimals9948 i think your mindset are better fitting in north Korea.

The majority of interviews are also with people who can’t get a job besides telling about North Korea and get more money if they lie and invent crazy stories. That’s a reason why there are so many weird myths about North Korea flying around. It’s sensationalism and a lack of perspective for defectors.

I think that his perspective is very valuable for the reasons you mentioned. Being part of the North Korean upper-middle class allows him valuable insight into North Korea's strengths that we don't really hear about. He is not saying South Korea is worse than North Korea or whatever. He is giving an objective review of both sides and I can see that his loyalties now are completely with South Korea. He is like all outsiders adapting to a new home; he is able to give honest and helpful feedback because he has nowhere to go besides his new home. And so he is fully committed to South Korea.

korean unifications is very unlikely and i think unlike in germany no one in SK really wants it.

Germany was not a success story. Say what you want about the historical tensions in place, but from a purely numerical point of view Germany is doing much worse than before it combined. West Germany was killing it a few decades ago, it's definitely a world power but doesn't hold foot against what it was in the 70s and 80s. Also, Majority of South Koreans are against it. We do not like our current president and while good relations with NK are supported, merging is both unrealistic and unfavoured.

@@sangeuncho8374 why is President Moon hated? He is a top shelf diplomat who significantly reduced tensions with NK.

@@eugenedebbs2189 I think it has something to do with Housing

@@eugenedebbs2189 Because he is a North Korean sympathist, so he overlooked the attrocities Kim Jong-Un committed

I like the way he talks though. It sounds like he's bragging but it shows that he really finds it distasteful that his people are being treated like disposable objects.

Indian check 🇮🇳

@@divijdevsingh216 check.

He is intelligent because he is a North Korean agent sent to demoralize South Korean society. You don't send average joes for sophisticated agit-prop jobs. Mostly a good actor, but a keen mind as well.

@@user-br9ne3gm9x 16:12 Bad acting - it is sign - elementary signs of deception - nose puffing. he is lying - or suddenly his nose is itching in that part of his story

@@user-br9ne3gm9x He isn't an actor, he just says it like it is.

@@alyaspark1234 Suuuure. Because you guys are more intelligent and skilled than the Korean NIS and you also have access to so much more information 🙄🙄🙄

@@camilledumas I mean. Neither do you. He contradicted himself when telling the story about his escape and when he first introduced himself. So these comments aren't just for fun.

Right? I made a mental note if I ever come near an electric fence and had to escape with my life on the line. If I ever come into this situation (hopefully not), I hope I can recall this information.

Yes, always use the back of your hand to touch electricity.

@@michaellim4165 Also for checking heat, as you need your palm more than the back side

plus how to get away from cramps

Yes I didnt even know that until now!!!!

Arent north koreans genetically smaller due to the large scale famine in the 90s

@@blackdiamond808 Yeah, plus most North Korean teenagers look like pre-teens/younger because they're malnourished

@@blackdiamond808 There are social classes in North Korea just like there are in countries all around the world. In the beginning it's mentioned that he was an 'elite', he was likely a more well off North Korean from birth. I think this guy has had some cosmetic procedures done to his face though

@@blackdiamond808 Upper-class, no malnourishment. There have been a couple of upper-class people defecting in the past years. Most of them had some sort of trouble over there, they did not escape because of bad living.

The hell you talking about, he looks his age...

I dont even realize its a 40 minutes video until reading ur comment. It feels like 10 minutes only 😱

@@irenemarietha5277 yess same! I was shocked when I read this comment. It only felt like a 10-20 minute video actually.

same

i saw the duration at first and i thought that i would just watch a bit and not finish it because i never finish a 40 min interview/ documentary. but man, it was so interesting, i kept watching then realized that i was almost finishing and was like.. it's been 40 mins already?? XD

HOLY I didnt even realized its 40 mins

Agree especially in order to live by yeonmi park(north korea defector)

@@drstrange6563 Yeonmi makes up a large portion of her stories tho. There have been many inconsistencies pointed out by many journalists. Sure, she's been through hell i assume but she needs to exaggerate it to make a living and bring in more attention and views

@@drstrange6563 No way! She is the worse one who lies through her teeth just for money and attention.

@@myra8695 Exactly! Many in South Korea know how fake she is. She lies just for money and attention.

Why did you watch her video, if you watch her video you will know what humanity was. Also some of his video are more humanity than hatred just like you who loves hatred and heartless.